Pipeline to ECNL

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Anonymous wrote:So did Pipeline get rejected by ECNL or still unknown? They seem to have been putting out some decent teams without that designation so maybe it doesn't matter as much to them.

Of the clubs out there, Pipeline is more than deserving. First, it has a trac-record of developing great teams and players. Second, there is not an ECNL club in the Baltimore area.

Celtic is an ECNL club, in Baltimore. Pipeline has done a superb job marketing itself and selling what parents want (rankings, wins, etc.).

But you don't get to Pipeline's level without developing talent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It can be presumed they were rejected...pipeline coaches were telling players and parents throughout the winter that they would be getting it.

My child plays for Pipeline and never heard a word about this.

[Anonymous]

Pipeline and developing in the same sentence...their track record is buying coaches, teams and players...so yes the marketing is great with rankings

Celtic does have Boys ECNL as a founding member

With other top clubs around the country leaving DA to rejoin ECNL...who would turn down the opportunity for ECNL

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So did Pipeline get rejected by ECNL or still unknown? They seem to have been putting out some decent teams without that designation so maybe it doesn't matter as much to them.

Of the clubs out there, Pipeline is more than deserving. First, it has a trac-record of developing great teams and players. Second, there is not an ECNL club in the Baltimore area.

Celtic is an ECNL club, in Baltimore. Pipeline has done a superb job marketing itself and selling what parents want (rankings, wins, etc.).

But you don't get to Pipeline's level without developing talent.

What is their "level"? They have a couple of really good teams, 07 and 06 boys preacademy specifically, but a significant amount of players from those two teams were acquired/built at other clubs. Which is fine, that's the way it works in youth soccer. But they're no more deserving than any other area club. As has been written they do a great job marketing and selling what parents crave, which = my DS/DD is on the # [whatever ] ranked team in the state, great record and a goals scored to goals conceded rations, featuring teams on social media, etc. Those don't necessarily equate to development.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It can be presumed they were rejected...pipeline coaches were telling players and parents throughout the winter that they would be getting it.

My child plays for Pipeline and never heard a word about this.

Have you heard of GAL? Is Pipeline or BA doing this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So did Pipeline get rejected by ECNL or still unknown? They seem to have been putting out some decent teams without that designation so maybe it doesn't matter as much to them.

Of the clubs out there, Pipeline is more than deserving. First, it has a trac-record of developing great teams and players. Second, there is not an ECNL club in the Baltimore area.

Celtic is an ECNL club, in Baltimore. Pipeline has done a superb job marketing itself and selling what parents want (rankings, wins, etc.).

But you don't get to Pipeline's level without developing talent.

What is their "level"? They have a couple of really good teams, 07 and 06 boys preacademy specifically, but a significant amount of players from those two teams were acquired/built at other clubs. Which is fine, that's the way it works in youth soccer. But they're no more deserving than any other area club. As has been written they do a great job marketing and selling what parents crave, which = my DS/DD is on the # [whatever ] ranked team in the state, great record and a goals scored to goals conceded rations, featuring teams on social media, etc. Those don't necessarily equate to development.

Can’t speak to 06 but a good chunk of the 07 pa team has been the same for 4 or 5 years so since the ulittles, same for 09. In any case, my child is not on the pa team and we have been pretty happy with the coaching and overall development at Pipeline. Every single player from his team returned last year, although they were all not placed on the same team, of this group, most have been with Pipeline for at least 3 years. We briefly tried another club and pretty quickly returned to Pipeline. No club is perfect but they really are pretty good about responding to areas that need improvement. This is all on the boy’s side, no experience with girls.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So did Pipeline get rejected by ECNL or still unknown? They seem to have been putting out some decent teams without that designation so maybe it doesn't matter as much to them.

Of the clubs out there, Pipeline is more than deserving. First, it has a trac-record of developing great teams and players. Second, there is not an ECNL club in the Baltimore area.

Celtic is an ECNL club, in Baltimore. Pipeline has done a superb job marketing itself and selling what parents want (rankings, wins, etc.).

But you don't get to Pipeline's level without developing talent.

What is their "level"? They have a couple of really good teams, 07 and 06 boys preacademy specifically, but a significant amount of players from those two teams were acquired/built at other clubs. Which is fine, that's the way it works in youth soccer. But they're no more deserving than any other area club. As has been written they do a great job marketing and selling what parents crave, which = my DS/DD is on the # [whatever ] ranked team in the state, great record and a goals scored to goals conceded rations, featuring teams on social media, etc. Those don't necessarily equate to development.

Their 2009 top boys team is one of the best in the country, along with Bethesda. They won the Jeff Cup top division handily. Their level is pretty damned high. They have imported a few players, like every other top team in the area. Bethesda included. I agree that 2004 or 2005 team rankings don’t tell you much about development if a lot of talent is imported. But big clubs are a talent magnet from early ages. So I wouldn’t pick bits over this in Pipelines case. They definitely tend to pick big and fast players by the look of that team, and they don’t necessarily play the most attractive soccer. But that is true for a lot of teams at that age.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So did Pipeline get rejected by ECNL or still unknown? They seem to have been putting out some decent teams without that designation so maybe it doesn't matter as much to them.

Of the clubs out there, Pipeline is more than deserving. First, it has a trac-record of developing great teams and players. Second, there is not an ECNL club in the Baltimore area.

Celtic is an ECNL club, in Baltimore. Pipeline has done a superb job marketing itself and selling what parents want (rankings, wins, etc.).

But you don't get to Pipeline's level without developing talent.

What is their "level"? They have a couple of really good teams, 07 and 06 boys preacademy specifically, but a significant amount of players from those two teams were acquired/built at other clubs. Which is fine, that's the way it works in youth soccer. But they're no more deserving than any other area club. As has been written they do a great job marketing and selling what parents crave, which = my DS/DD is on the # [whatever ] ranked team in the state, great record and a goals scored to goals conceded rations, featuring teams on social media, etc. Those don't necessarily equate to development.

Can’t speak to 06 but a good chunk of the 07 pa team has been the same for 4 or 5 years so since the ulittles, same for 09. In any case, my child is not on the pa team and we have been pretty happy with the coaching and overall development at Pipeline. Every single player from his team returned last year, although they were all not placed on the same team, of this group, most have been with Pipeline for at least 3 years. We briefly tried another club and pretty quickly returned to Pipeline. No club is perfect but they really are pretty good about responding to areas that need improvement. This is all on the boy’s side, no experience with girls.

A lot of the 07 Preacademy boys came from "Pipeline" North which was actually another team/club that was recruited to be part of Pipeline. About 6 of the kids from that team joined the regular Pipeline team when they went from U11 to U12 when the North team folded. And they just took kid from MdUnited and added him to their team prior to the Jefferson Cup. But this happens all the time in youth soccer. No big deal. The point isn't that Pipeline is "bad", just that they're not special when it comes to developing soccer players. They are, however, at a level above the other clubs in terms of marketing and promotion.

[Anonymous]

Not sure about boys but the girl's side is serious and every top team on the east coast and beyond acknowledges this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So did Pipeline get rejected by ECNL or still unknown? They seem to have been putting out some decent teams without that designation so maybe it doesn't matter as much to them.

Of the clubs out there, Pipeline is more than deserving. First, it has a trac-record of developing great teams and players. Second, there is not an ECNL club in the Baltimore area.

Celtic is an ECNL club, in Baltimore. Pipeline has done a superb job marketing itself and selling what parents want (rankings, wins, etc.).

But you don't get to Pipeline's level without developing talent.

What is their "level"? They have a couple of really good teams, 07 and 06 boys preacademy specifically, but a significant amount of players from those two teams were acquired/built at other clubs. Which is fine, that's the way it works in youth soccer. But they're no more deserving than any other area club. As has been written they do a great job marketing and selling what parents crave, which = my DS/DD is on the # [whatever ] ranked team in the state, great record and a goals scored to goals conceded rations, featuring teams on social media, etc. Those don't necessarily equate to development.

Can’t speak to 06 but a good chunk of the 07 pa team has been the same for 4 or 5 years so since the ulittles, same for 09. In any case, my child is not on the pa team and we have been pretty happy with the coaching and overall development at Pipeline. Every single player from his team returned last year, although they were all not placed on the same team, of this group, most have been with Pipeline for at least 3 years. We briefly tried another club and pretty quickly returned to Pipeline. No club is perfect but they really are pretty good about responding to areas that need improvement. This is all on the boy’s side, no experience with girls.

A lot of the 07 Preacademy boys came from "Pipeline" North which was actually another team/club that was recruited to be part of Pipeline. About 6 of the kids from that team joined the regular Pipeline team when they went from U11 to U12 when the North team folded. And they just took kid from MdUnited and added him to their team prior to the Jefferson Cup. But this happens all the time in youth soccer. No big deal. The point isn't that Pipeline is "bad", just that they're not special when it comes to developing soccer players. They are, however, at a level above the other clubs in terms of marketing and promotion.

And I am saying that having a child who plays for them, they do more than just marketing right. I know a number of kids, boys and girls, who started with the club at u9 or younger, and are still with them five years later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So did Pipeline get rejected by ECNL or still unknown? They seem to have been putting out some decent teams without that designation so maybe it doesn't matter as much to them.

Of the clubs out there, Pipeline is more than deserving. First, it has a trac-record of developing great teams and players. Second, there is not an ECNL club in the Baltimore area.

Celtic is an ECNL club, in Baltimore. Pipeline has done a superb job marketing itself and selling what parents want (rankings, wins, etc.).

But you don't get to Pipeline's level without developing talent.

What is their "level"? They have a couple of really good teams, 07 and 06 boys preacademy specifically, but a significant amount of players from those two teams were acquired/built at other clubs. Which is fine, that's the way it works in youth soccer. But they're no more deserving than any other area club. As has been written they do a great job marketing and selling what parents crave, which = my DS/DD is on the # [whatever ] ranked team in the state, great record and a goals scored to goals conceded rations, featuring teams on social media, etc. Those don't necessarily equate to development.

Can’t speak to 06 but a good chunk of the 07 pa team has been the same for 4 or 5 years so since the ulittles, same for 09. In any case, my child is not on the pa team and we have been pretty happy with the coaching and overall development at Pipeline. Every single player from his team returned last year, although they were all not placed on the same team, of this group, most have been with Pipeline for at least 3 years. We briefly tried another club and pretty quickly returned to Pipeline. No club is perfect but they really are pretty good about responding to areas that need improvement. This is all on the boy’s side, no experience with girls.

A lot of the 07 Preacademy boys came from "Pipeline" North which was actually another team/club that was recruited to be part of Pipeline. About 6 of the kids from that team joined the regular Pipeline team when they went from U11 to U12 when the North team folded. And they just took kid from MdUnited and added him to their team prior to the Jefferson Cup. But this happens all the time in youth soccer. No big deal. The point isn't that Pipeline is "bad", just that they're not special when it comes to developing soccer players. They are, however, at a level above the other clubs in terms of marketing and promotion.

And I am saying that having a child who plays for them, they do more than just marketing right. I know a number of kids, boys and girls, who started with the club at u9 or younger, and are still with them five years later.

It's good you're pleased with you club. There are several people that stay at several clubs and and are also pleased. But, again, the point isn't that Pipeline is "bad", just that they're not special when it comes to developing soccer players.

[Anonymous]

My DD has played against the 05 girls team and they have some of the best, most well-coached players. I have watched the older teams play and they are also very solid.

[Anonymous]

Regardless of their developmental ability, which it appears they do well enough to produce/maintain good teams (even if some are "bought" as is claimed), they consistently have a lot of competitive teams across gender and age. I know the rankings on gotsoccer and youthsoccerrankings can be very hit or miss and mentioning them is blasphemy, but they have a few top 10 ranked teams in both and do very well in some larger tournaments, like Jefferson Cup top bracket. I think there is more to why they wouldn't get a bid (maybe pissed off the wrong people?) and appear to be a very polarizing team from what I can tell. Maybe not as polarizing as some NOVA teams though

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Regardless of their developmental ability, which it appears they do well enough to produce/maintain good teams (even if some are "bought" as is claimed), they consistently have a lot of competitive teams across gender and age. I know the rankings on gotsoccer and youthsoccerrankings can be very hit or miss and mentioning them is blasphemy, but they have a few top 10 ranked teams in both and do very well in some larger tournaments, like Jefferson Cup top bracket. I think there is more to why they wouldn't get a bid (maybe pissed off the wrong people?) and appear to be a very polarizing team from what I can tell. Maybe not as polarizing as some NOVA teams though

I don’t think it matters. This isn’t rushing a sorority. I am sure most of the top talent does not care or is happy not to be in ecnl.

[Anonymous]

Where is BA going? Does the DA collapse hurt or help Pipeline in terms of getting into ECNL?