APS Elementary Planning Mtg at Swanson - Option 1 in, Option 2 out, McKinley Moms out of contro

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wish the staff would just do away with all option programs, draw lines that reduce transportation and just go that way. We can't even hire enough bus drivers here! This option BS is a relic of the past.

So you propose further segregation? Cool. Just call it what it is.

If people choose to self segregate, so be it.

It's not like they have a choice. Where's the affordable housing in the north?

What I don’t understand about calls for more affordable housing elsewhere is that unless it takes away from AH in the areas where it is currently concentrated, it changes nothing about the percentages in those schools. It’s not like AH lobbyists are going to let up in the south if you sprinkle some into the north.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish the staff would just do away with all option programs, draw lines that reduce transportation and just go that way. We can't even hire enough bus drivers here! This option BS is a relic of the past.

So you propose further segregation? Cool. Just call it what it is.

How can it get much worse than the current extremes?

If you want to further restrict boundaries by geography, it can get much worse. In every recent decision they have made, that has been the case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If what the PP said is true, Save McKinley needs to distance itself from the McKrazies who obviously only care about themselves and are willing to make sure everyone else suffers because of their own entitlement. However, the queen of screamers was wearing a SaveMcK shirt on tv, so.........

The #SaveMcKinley crew is a self-created group of parents who got pissed at the McKinley PTA for not being aggressive enough to advocate for their family's interests. Emilie Heller-- aka McKrazy-- has yelled at our PTA leadership the same way she has yelled at APS staff. She yelled at our PTA president for being "too nice" during two of the recent PTA meetings. (And yes, I mean yelled.) Note, our PTA president is a 5th grade parent who got stuck in this role for a 2nd year in a row because no other parents volunteered to take over for her last year. Emilie should be thanking her, but instead she just throws insults. Most of the more vocal #SaveMcKinley crew are parents who never show up for PTA meetings and never volunteer. I don't think closing McKinley is the right decision because we can't open Reed with 830 students (see Proposal #1) but I am so horrified at the way some of these parents are acting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish the staff would just do away with all option programs, draw lines that reduce transportation and just go that way. We can't even hire enough bus drivers here! This option BS is a relic of the past.

So you propose further segregation? Cool. Just call it what it is.

If people choose to self segregate, so be it.

It's not like they have a choice. Where's the affordable housing in the north?

What I don’t understand about calls for more affordable housing elsewhere is that unless it takes away from AH in the areas where it is currently concentrated, it changes nothing about the percentages in those schools. It’s not like AH lobbyists are going to let up in the south if you sprinkle some into the north.

Because it’s not an unlimited pool of money. If they spend money in one area, they don’t have it to spend in another. So, if they move forward on housing in NA where there isn’t any, they can’t also continue to build even more in the areas of SA that aren’t lacking in AH options. Doesn’t mean anything gets torn down, but maybe they don’t do phases 2-4 on the site where they already built phase 1? How about that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish the staff would just do away with all option programs, draw lines that reduce transportation and just go that way. We can't even hire enough bus drivers here! This option BS is a relic of the past.

So you propose further segregation? Cool. Just call it what it is.

Housing policy, not bussing, de-segregates.

[Anonymous]

I"m assuming y'all saw this;
https://wjla.com/news/local/youre-ignoring-us-arlington-families-speak-out-against-proposed-school-reassignments

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish the staff would just do away with all option programs, draw lines that reduce transportation and just go that way. We can't even hire enough bus drivers here! This option BS is a relic of the past.

So you propose further segregation? Cool. Just call it what it is.

If people choose to self segregate, so be it.

It's not like they have a choice. Where's the affordable housing in the north?

What I don’t understand about calls for more affordable housing elsewhere is that unless it takes away from AH in the areas where it is currently concentrated, it changes nothing about the percentages in those schools. It’s not like AH lobbyists are going to let up in the south if you sprinkle some into the north.

Because it’s not an unlimited pool of money. If they spend money in one area, they don’t have it to spend in another. So, if they move forward on housing in NA where there isn’t any, they can’t also continue to build even more in the areas of SA that aren’t lacking in AH options. Doesn’t mean anything gets torn down, but maybe they don’t do phases 2-4 on the site where they already built phase 1? How about that?

How about you find or make an appropriate thread for your topic?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If what the PP said is true, Save McKinley needs to distance itself from the McKrazies who obviously only care about themselves and are willing to make sure everyone else suffers because of their own entitlement. However, the queen of screamers was wearing a SaveMcK shirt on tv, so.........

The #SaveMcKinley crew is a self-created group of parents who got pissed at the McKinley PTA for not being aggressive enough to advocate for their family's interests. Emilie Heller-- aka McKrazy-- has yelled at our PTA leadership the same way she has yelled at APS staff. She yelled at our PTA president for being "too nice" during two of the recent PTA meetings. (And yes, I mean yelled.) Note, our PTA president is a 5th grade parent who got stuck in this role for a 2nd year in a row because no other parents volunteered to take over for her last year. Emilie should be thanking her, but instead she just throws insults. Most of the more vocal #SaveMcKinley crew are parents who never show up for PTA meetings and never volunteer. I don't think closing McKinley is the right decision because we can't open Reed with 830 students (see Proposal #1) but I am so horrified at the way some of these parents are acting.

Thank you for this.it helps me understand a little better. FWIW, they will not open Reed at 800+. Some of those units are going elsewhere. Tuckahoe is going to get more than what you are seeing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish the staff would just do away with all option programs, draw lines that reduce transportation and just go that way. We can't even hire enough bus drivers here! This option BS is a relic of the past.

So you propose further segregation? Cool. Just call it what it is.

Housing policy, not bussing, de-segregates.

Again, we wait for a time in the future when the county does the right thing? Yes, housing segregation is the root sin. But ignoring it while making boundaries only reinforces that wrong.

Many of our boundaries were drawn at a different time, when good people gave a s*** about undoing the historical legacies of racist housing policy. Now we just say we care and then do nothing. Wait, not only do we do nothing, we reverse the intentional work others did to remedy the wrong. ACDC in a nutshell.

[Anonymous]

Also, they can change the ATS lottery to one like HB where spots are allotted based on neighborhood school size. That would be much more equitable

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish the staff would just do away with all option programs, draw lines that reduce transportation and just go that way. We can't even hire enough bus drivers here! This option BS is a relic of the past.

So you propose further segregation? Cool. Just call it what it is.

Housing policy, not bussing, de-segregates.

Again, we wait for a time in the future when the county does the right thing? Yes, housing segregation is the root sin. But ignoring it while making boundaries only reinforces that wrong.

Many of our boundaries were drawn at a different time, when good people gave a s*** about undoing the historical legacies of racist housing policy. Now we just say we care and then do nothing. Wait, not only do we do nothing, we reverse the intentional work others did to remedy the wrong. ACDC in a nutshell.

Where do you see this happening or has happened?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also, they can change the ATS lottery to one like HB where spots are allotted based on neighborhood school size. That would be much more equitable

Agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I"m assuming y'all saw this;
https://wjla.com/news/local/youre-ignoring-us-arlington-families-speak-out-against-proposed-school-reassignments

That's gold. I see one angry parent, a number of parents with neutral expressions, and a whole lot of empty seats. Option 1 is not as terrible and controversial as a few people would like you to believe.

[Anonymous]

If you don’t like proposal 1, what specific changes do you suggest?

[Anonymous]

There is nothing wrong with option 1, only they placeholder boundaries. They can balance enrollment above Wilson, but will need to draw the lines a little differently.