FCV DA

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread is comedy gold!

So many that really have NO clue about FCV, showcases, recruiting, training...


It is real simple. The soccer talent is getting less concentrated with each rising graduation year due to more and more “elite” options. In a very short period of time it will no longer be enough just to be on a FCV DA team. When it was just McLean and FCV being kid 15 still meant you were kid 30 all of NoVA. Going forward being kid 15 at FCV or ANY DA/ECNL club means you are now kid 100-120 in NoVA. This is the simple product of dilution.

So if your kid is a rising U13/14 and you’re kid is not a top 5 player or at least a starter on the team then you should be thinking about a future change where you can become a starter. DA has not yet separated itself as the elite league either to bail your career sub out either.


I strongly disagree with your statement. But you know, opinions are like ______.



Opinions are like you?


Since you asked, No.

But I do know facts: 3 of the top 5 players at MU tried out for FCV and didn't make it at the 05 age group. FACT. So the Spirit/MU rosters starts at player #19 at highest in the area. Sort of goes against the bench players at FCV being worse than the top 5 at every other 'elite' club in the area.

Truth is, FCV's rosters are deeper than any 'elite' club in the area. FCV rotates starts among all players mostly and regardless of who starts, players play equal time for the most part.

But you wouldn't know any of this unless you were part of it. But by all means, continue to sling the false information and conjecture if it makes you feel better.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Top 5 player is a bit extreme. As long as title IX exists they’ll be plenty of money to throw at young people looking to play college ball. Being on FCV DA is an attractive option for the kids and parents choosing colleges based on soccer, whether you’re player 1 or player 18. Being on another area DA team or ECNL team is also attractive, but probably only if you start or play significant minutes. It boils down to the quality of the player mostly, with some factors such as coaching connections, and team success mixed in. The one thing to be wary about with FCV for the kids at 05 and younger is the coaching and club instability over the next few years. The older kids will be fine. The younger ones are at some risk, but will also likely be fine given their talent, their parent’s wealth, and the ability to switch to a different situation if needed thanks to the numerous options here in the metro area.


05 and younger going forward at FCV will be fine IF they are starters. With so many ECNL/DA options available being a a career sub anywhere will no longer be enough. The talent just is no longer concentrated enough at those ages where simply being on the team is the differentiator it once was. And with ECNL beginning to regionalize by taking over VPL it is only going to get more diluted moving forward.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread is comedy gold!

So many that really have NO clue about FCV, showcases, recruiting, training...


It is real simple. The soccer talent is getting less concentrated with each rising graduation year due to more and more “elite” options. In a very short period of time it will no longer be enough just to be on a FCV DA team. When it was just McLean and FCV being kid 15 still meant you were kid 30 all of NoVA. Going forward being kid 15 at FCV or ANY DA/ECNL club means you are now kid 100-120 in NoVA. This is the simple product of dilution.

So if your kid is a rising U13/14 and you’re kid is not a top 5 player or at least a starter on the team then you should be thinking about a future change where you can become a starter. DA has not yet separated itself as the elite league either to bail your career sub out either.


I strongly disagree with your statement. But you know, opinions are like ______.



Opinions are like you?


Since you asked, No.

But I do know facts: 3 of the top 5 players at MU tried out for FCV and didn't make it at the 05 age group. FACT. So the Spirit/MU rosters starts at player #19 at highest in the area. Sort of goes against the bench players at FCV being worse than the top 5 at every other 'elite' club in the area.

Truth is, FCV's rosters are deeper than any 'elite' club in the area. FCV rotates starts among all players mostly and regardless of who starts, players play equal time for the most part.

But you wouldn't know any of this unless you were part of it. But by all means, continue to sling the false information and conjecture if it makes you feel better.


Facts:
When FCV was in ECNL up to 70 kids would show up for tryouts.

Facts:
When DA launched and ECNL expanded FCV tryouts numbers plummeted to less than 10 outside kids.

Facts:
FCV is not drawing outside talent like it used to.

Facts:
All clubs are relying on internal talent more and more as staying put is easier for kids.

Facts:
FCV does not offer anything that 6 other clubs can’t also offer while staying closer to home and continue to play with established friends.

Facts:
Kids still like playing in HS. And FCV lost several players mid season to HS alone.

Facts:
FCV sold because the writing is on the wall if they stay in Loudoun.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Bobby in the house


Pretty sure FCV trains every night and BP wouldn’t be posting here now during training. Mikey on the other hand, he might be in the bushes on his phone typing and grunting.


Both are repugnant.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Bobby in the house


Pretty sure FCV trains every night and BP wouldn’t be posting here now during training. Mikey on the other hand, he might be in the bushes on his phone typing and grunting.


Actually, he probably has Gus or Marvin coaching for him while he interviews for his next gig. CZ would coach but he’s too busy helping Richie coach the Spirit.

In other FCV news, big parent meet and greet with the TSJ folks happening on June 8. They will offer them a “special membership, offer exclusive to TSJFCV families.” Hopefully, they give the parents a coupon and don’t make them pay the standard $20 for a soggy hamburger before they try to sell them a gym membership. Meanwhile, I hear Gus will be coaching the ‘05 DA team next year due to parental complaints about Le Pup. Of course he’ll also be coaching the non-DA 05/06 team and a couple older boys teams, and DCU futsal, and Puma Elite futsal. Not to mention his personal STBW training business. Dude is busy.



Bobby Pup Interviewing for new gig for SURE! Once they see him in action tho - no go! FCV = stepping stone to get him in area for better job. Needs to work on communication.
CZ - so what, has done his time, has a life, doesnt owe anyone anythng - especially someone else's kid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread is comedy gold!

So many that really have NO clue about FCV, showcases, recruiting, training...


It is real simple. The soccer talent is getting less concentrated with each rising graduation year due to more and more “elite” options. In a very short period of time it will no longer be enough just to be on a FCV DA team. When it was just McLean and FCV being kid 15 still meant you were kid 30 all of NoVA. Going forward being kid 15 at FCV or ANY DA/ECNL club means you are now kid 100-120 in NoVA. This is the simple product of dilution.

So if your kid is a rising U13/14 and you’re kid is not a top 5 player or at least a starter on the team then you should be thinking about a future change where you can become a starter. DA has not yet separated itself as the elite league either to bail your career sub out either.


I strongly disagree with your statement. But you know, opinions are like ______.



Opinions are like you?


Since you asked, No.

But I do know facts: 3 of the top 5 players at MU tried out for FCV and didn't make it at the 05 age group. FACT. So the Spirit/MU rosters starts at player #19 at highest in the area. Sort of goes against the bench players at FCV being worse than the top 5 at every other 'elite' club in the area.

Truth is, FCV's rosters are deeper than any 'elite' club in the area. FCV rotates starts among all players mostly and regardless of who starts, players play equal time for the most part.

But you wouldn't know any of this unless you were part of it. But by all means, continue to sling the false information and conjecture if it makes you feel better.


New poster--the above example says nothing about either club. First, you have no idea if the 5 were "top" or "bottom" players. The fact they were trying out makes it more likely they weren't the top five. Second, FCV and MU aren't the only two clubs in the area. So you can't make judgments about where a particular player fits in a ranking scheme. FCV rosters are relatively deep as you go up in age, the younger years are where you see more dilution across the area. The PP was correct that it's best for the player at the younger years to start at an elite option somewhere, to get minutes and exposure. Playing under pressure to perform in a game is different than practice and something you don't get much of when you spend most of your time on the bench. As mentioned by someone else, if you are a perennial sub on an FCV roster from u14-u17, you will not even show up on a u19 roster, you will be gone, and have lost your chance to compete and sign with a D1 school as well. It's not rocket science and very bizarre that you are arguing against such simple logic.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread is comedy gold!

So many that really have NO clue about FCV, showcases, recruiting, training...


It is real simple. The soccer talent is getting less concentrated with each rising graduation year due to more and more “elite” options. In a very short period of time it will no longer be enough just to be on a FCV DA team. When it was just McLean and FCV being kid 15 still meant you were kid 30 all of NoVA. Going forward being kid 15 at FCV or ANY DA/ECNL club means you are now kid 100-120 in NoVA. This is the simple product of dilution.

So if your kid is a rising U13/14 and you’re kid is not a top 5 player or at least a starter on the team then you should be thinking about a future change where you can become a starter. DA has not yet separated itself as the elite league either to bail your career sub out either.


I strongly disagree with your statement. But you know, opinions are like ______.



Opinions are like you?


Since you asked, No.

But I do know facts: 3 of the top 5 players at MU tried out for FCV and didn't make it at the 05 age group. FACT. So the Spirit/MU rosters starts at player #19 at highest in the area. Sort of goes against the bench players at FCV being worse than the top 5 at every other 'elite' club in the area.

Truth is, FCV's rosters are deeper than any 'elite' club in the area. FCV rotates starts among all players mostly and regardless of who starts, players play equal time for the most part.

But you wouldn't know any of this unless you were part of it. But by all means, continue to sling the false information and conjecture if it makes you feel better.


Facts:
When FCV was in ECNL up to 70 kids would show up for tryouts. - Conjecture. Unless you have tryout lists, this is simply made up. You don't know this and have no way of supporting this...argumentative.

Facts:
When DA launched and ECNL expanded FCV tryouts numbers plummeted to less than 10 outside kids. - Speculation. Unless you have tryout lists, this is simply made up. I personally saw the 07's when trying out and they had 3 full games going...i.e. ~66 players or more.

Facts:
FCV is not drawing outside talent like it used to. - Come on. This is simple conjecture attempting to be argumentative. You have no evidence to support any claim like this.

Facts:
All clubs are relying on internal talent more and more as staying put is easier for kids. - How can you possibly know the internal working and players, player development from EVERY club. More conjecture to be argumentative.

Facts:
FCV does not offer anything that 6 other clubs can’t also offer while staying closer to home and continue to play with established friends. - Wow...while you can compare clubs and offering, there isn't a club anywhere in NoVa that trains like FCV. I hear it from parents all the time that come in for tryouts. FCV is still getting stragglers from MU coming for tryouts as of this week. If a player wants to play near home and play with friends, that is fine. But the training the would get is not even close in comparison.

Facts:
Kids still like playing in HS. And FCV lost several players mid season to HS alone. - I do not know of ANY DA players that left to play HS. Some may not come to FCV for that reason, and that is a personal choice that is OK. Every player is different.

Facts:
FCV sold because the writing is on the wall if they stay in Loudoun.
- And you finish off with conjecture. Unless you are CZ, STJ owner or one of the lawyers involved, you have no idea why the club was sold. I have personally heard why the club was sold and it not b/c of the made up reason you state above.

Don't hate on FCV because the club has better teams at the DA level. Some kids fit in better at other clubs, nothing wrong with that. But if you want to get looked at by college coaches, FCV is the club in this area to do that. Regardless if the player is 12, 18, 1, or 3.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread is comedy gold!

So many that really have NO clue about FCV, showcases, recruiting, training...


It is real simple. The soccer talent is getting less concentrated with each rising graduation year due to more and more “elite” options. In a very short period of time it will no longer be enough just to be on a FCV DA team. When it was just McLean and FCV being kid 15 still meant you were kid 30 all of NoVA. Going forward being kid 15 at FCV or ANY DA/ECNL club means you are now kid 100-120 in NoVA. This is the simple product of dilution.

So if your kid is a rising U13/14 and you’re kid is not a top 5 player or at least a starter on the team then you should be thinking about a future change where you can become a starter. DA has not yet separated itself as the elite league either to bail your career sub out either.


I strongly disagree with your statement. But you know, opinions are like ______.



Opinions are like you?


Since you asked, No.

But I do know facts: 3 of the top 5 players at MU tried out for FCV and didn't make it at the 05 age group. FACT. So the Spirit/MU rosters starts at player #19 at highest in the area. Sort of goes against the bench players at FCV being worse than the top 5 at every other 'elite' club in the area.

Truth is, FCV's rosters are deeper than any 'elite' club in the area. FCV rotates starts among all players mostly and regardless of who starts, players play equal time for the most part.

But you wouldn't know any of this unless you were part of it. But by all means, continue to sling the false information and conjecture if it makes you feel better.


Facts:
When FCV was in ECNL up to 70 kids would show up for tryouts. - Conjecture. Unless you have tryout lists, this is simply made up. You don't know this and have no way of supporting this...argumentative.

Facts:
When DA launched and ECNL expanded FCV tryouts numbers plummeted to less than 10 outside kids. - Speculation. Unless you have tryout lists, this is simply made up. I personally saw the 07's when trying out and they had 3 full games going...i.e. ~66 players or more.

Facts:
FCV is not drawing outside talent like it used to. - Come on. This is simple conjecture attempting to be argumentative. You have no evidence to support any claim like this.

Facts:
All clubs are relying on internal talent more and more as staying put is easier for kids. - How can you possibly know the internal working and players, player development from EVERY club. More conjecture to be argumentative.

Facts:
FCV does not offer anything that 6 other clubs can’t also offer while staying closer to home and continue to play with established friends. - Wow...while you can compare clubs and offering, there isn't a club anywhere in NoVa that trains like FCV. I hear it from parents all the time that come in for tryouts. FCV is still getting stragglers from MU coming for tryouts as of this week. If a player wants to play near home and play with friends, that is fine. But the training the would get is not even close in comparison.

Facts:
Kids still like playing in HS. And FCV lost several players mid season to HS alone. - I do not know of ANY DA players that left to play HS. Some may not come to FCV for that reason, and that is a personal choice that is OK. Every player is different.

Facts:
FCV sold because the writing is on the wall if they stay in Loudoun.
- And you finish off with conjecture. Unless you are CZ, STJ owner or one of the lawyers involved, you have no idea why the club was sold. I have personally heard why the club was sold and it not b/c of the made up reason you state above.

Don't hate on FCV because the club has better teams at the DA level. Some kids fit in better at other clubs, nothing wrong with that. But if you want to get looked at by college coaches, FCV is the club in this area to do that. Regardless if the player is 12, 18, 1, or 3.

* one of the clubs
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread is comedy gold!

So many that really have NO clue about FCV, showcases, recruiting, training...


It is real simple. The soccer talent is getting less concentrated with each rising graduation year due to more and more “elite” options. In a very short period of time it will no longer be enough just to be on a FCV DA team. When it was just McLean and FCV being kid 15 still meant you were kid 30 all of NoVA. Going forward being kid 15 at FCV or ANY DA/ECNL club means you are now kid 100-120 in NoVA. This is the simple product of dilution.

So if your kid is a rising U13/14 and you’re kid is not a top 5 player or at least a starter on the team then you should be thinking about a future change where you can become a starter. DA has not yet separated itself as the elite league either to bail your career sub out either.


I strongly disagree with your statement. But you know, opinions are like ______.



Opinions are like you?


Since you asked, No.

But I do know facts: 3 of the top 5 players at MU tried out for FCV and didn't make it at the 05 age group. FACT. So the Spirit/MU rosters starts at player #19 at highest in the area. Sort of goes against the bench players at FCV being worse than the top 5 at every other 'elite' club in the area.

Truth is, FCV's rosters are deeper than any 'elite' club in the area. FCV rotates starts among all players mostly and regardless of who starts, players play equal time for the most part.

But you wouldn't know any of this unless you were part of it. But by all means, continue to sling the false information and conjecture if it makes you feel better.


New poster--the above example says nothing about either club. First, you have no idea if the 5 were "top" or "bottom" players. The fact they were trying out makes it more likely they weren't the top five. Second, FCV and MU aren't the only two clubs in the area. So you can't make judgments about where a particular player fits in a ranking scheme. FCV rosters are relatively deep as you go up in age, the younger years are where you see more dilution across the area. The PP was correct that it's best for the player at the younger years to start at an elite option somewhere, to get minutes and exposure. Playing under pressure to perform in a game is different than practice and something you don't get much of when you spend most of your time on the bench. As mentioned by someone else, if you are a perennial sub on an FCV roster from u14-u17, you will not even show up on a u19 roster, you will be gone, and have lost your chance to compete and sign with a D1 school as well. It's not rocket science and very bizarre that you are arguing against such simple logic.


Well I do know they were in the top 5...

Play in this area long enough and you get to know the top players and parents. Most are great and just want what is best for their kid.

Follow the thread, FCV splits time...there are very few every game starters. Time is split equally as the rosters are deep. Maybe that will change, who knows. But the statements being made up as 'facts' and 'simple logic' are just that, made up.
Anonymous
Wow!!

Bobby is actually posting here! Lol!!!

Only a coach would talk about the training environment and nobody mentions the training environment more than Bobby P.

You know what is embarrassing to the DA? A DA coach who is trolling a mom’s soccer forum.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread is comedy gold!

So many that really have NO clue about FCV, showcases, recruiting, training...


It is real simple. The soccer talent is getting less concentrated with each rising graduation year due to more and more “elite” options. In a very short period of time it will no longer be enough just to be on a FCV DA team. When it was just McLean and FCV being kid 15 still meant you were kid 30 all of NoVA. Going forward being kid 15 at FCV or ANY DA/ECNL club means you are now kid 100-120 in NoVA. This is the simple product of dilution.

So if your kid is a rising U13/14 and you’re kid is not a top 5 player or at least a starter on the team then you should be thinking about a future change where you can become a starter. DA has not yet separated itself as the elite league either to bail your career sub out either.


I strongly disagree with your statement. But you know, opinions are like ______.



Opinions are like you?


Since you asked, No.

But I do know facts: 3 of the top 5 players at MU tried out for FCV and didn't make it at the 05 age group. FACT. So the Spirit/MU rosters starts at player #19 at highest in the area. Sort of goes against the bench players at FCV being worse than the top 5 at every other 'elite' club in the area.

Truth is, FCV's rosters are deeper than any 'elite' club in the area. FCV rotates starts among all players mostly and regardless of who starts, players play equal time for the most part.

But you wouldn't know any of this unless you were part of it. But by all means, continue to sling the false information and conjecture if it makes you feel better.


New poster--the above example says nothing about either club. First, you have no idea if the 5 were "top" or "bottom" players. The fact they were trying out makes it more likely they weren't the top five. Second, FCV and MU aren't the only two clubs in the area. So you can't make judgments about where a particular player fits in a ranking scheme. FCV rosters are relatively deep as you go up in age, the younger years are where you see more dilution across the area. The PP was correct that it's best for the player at the younger years to start at an elite option somewhere, to get minutes and exposure. Playing under pressure to perform in a game is different than practice and something you don't get much of when you spend most of your time on the bench. As mentioned by someone else, if you are a perennial sub on an FCV roster from u14-u17, you will not even show up on a u19 roster, you will be gone, and have lost your chance to compete and sign with a D1 school as well. It's not rocket science and very bizarre that you are arguing against such simple logic.


Well I do know they were in the top 5...

Play in this area long enough and you get to know the top players and parents. Most are great and just want what is best for their kid.

Follow the thread, FCV splits time...there are very few every game starters. Time is split equally as the rosters are deep. Maybe that will change, who knows. But the statements being made up as 'facts' and 'simple logic' are just that, made up.


Isn’t the whole point of the DA no return sub rule intended to develop and teach players how to play a full game or close to a full game like the rest of the world plays?
Anonymous
How is that accomplished by splitting time? Shouldn’t FCV have stayed in ECNL if that is how they game manage?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread is comedy gold!

So many that really have NO clue about FCV, showcases, recruiting, training...


It is real simple. The soccer talent is getting less concentrated with each rising graduation year due to more and more “elite” options. In a very short period of time it will no longer be enough just to be on a FCV DA team. When it was just McLean and FCV being kid 15 still meant you were kid 30 all of NoVA. Going forward being kid 15 at FCV or ANY DA/ECNL club means you are now kid 100-120 in NoVA. This is the simple product of dilution.

So if your kid is a rising U13/14 and you’re kid is not a top 5 player or at least a starter on the team then you should be thinking about a future change where you can become a starter. DA has not yet separated itself as the elite league either to bail your career sub out either.


I strongly disagree with your statement. But you know, opinions are like ______.



Opinions are like you?


Since you asked, No.

But I do know facts: 3 of the top 5 players at MU tried out for FCV and didn't make it at the 05 age group. FACT. So the Spirit/MU rosters starts at player #19 at highest in the area. Sort of goes against the bench players at FCV being worse than the top 5 at every other 'elite' club in the area.

Truth is, FCV's rosters are deeper than any 'elite' club in the area. FCV rotates starts among all players mostly and regardless of who starts, players play equal time for the most part.

But you wouldn't know any of this unless you were part of it. But by all means, continue to sling the false information and conjecture if it makes you feel better.


New poster--the above example says nothing about either club. First, you have no idea if the 5 were "top" or "bottom" players. The fact they were trying out makes it more likely they weren't the top five. Second, FCV and MU aren't the only two clubs in the area. So you can't make judgments about where a particular player fits in a ranking scheme. FCV rosters are relatively deep as you go up in age, the younger years are where you see more dilution across the area. The PP was correct that it's best for the player at the younger years to start at an elite option somewhere, to get minutes and exposure. Playing under pressure to perform in a game is different than practice and something you don't get much of when you spend most of your time on the bench. As mentioned by someone else, if you are a perennial sub on an FCV roster from u14-u17, you will not even show up on a u19 roster, you will be gone, and have lost your chance to compete and sign with a D1 school as well. It's not rocket science and very bizarre that you are arguing against such simple logic.


Well I do know they were in the top 5...

Play in this area long enough and you get to know the top players and parents. Most are great and just want what is best for their kid.

Follow the thread, FCV splits time...there are very few every game starters. Time is split equally as the rosters are deep. Maybe that will change, who knows. But the statements being made up as 'facts' and 'simple logic' are just that, made up.


I've seen multiple FCV age groups play many times, and the starting lineup is the starting lineup, it doesn't change much. They don't shuffle players like a deck of cards; they have players they play to win in their given positions and then sub as needed. Do subs get a chance to play? Sure. Do they play anywhere near the minutes of the top players on a given team? No.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread is comedy gold!

So many that really have NO clue about FCV, showcases, recruiting, training...


It is real simple. The soccer talent is getting less concentrated with each rising graduation year due to more and more “elite” options. In a very short period of time it will no longer be enough just to be on a FCV DA team. When it was just McLean and FCV being kid 15 still meant you were kid 30 all of NoVA. Going forward being kid 15 at FCV or ANY DA/ECNL club means you are now kid 100-120 in NoVA. This is the simple product of dilution.

So if your kid is a rising U13/14 and you’re kid is not a top 5 player or at least a starter on the team then you should be thinking about a future change where you can become a starter. DA has not yet separated itself as the elite league either to bail your career sub out either.


I strongly disagree with your statement. But you know, opinions are like ______.



Opinions are like you?


Since you asked, No.

But I do know facts: 3 of the top 5 players at MU tried out for FCV and didn't make it at the 05 age group. FACT. So the Spirit/MU rosters starts at player #19 at highest in the area. Sort of goes against the bench players at FCV being worse than the top 5 at every other 'elite' club in the area.

Truth is, FCV's rosters are deeper than any 'elite' club in the area. FCV rotates starts among all players mostly and regardless of who starts, players play equal time for the most part.

But you wouldn't know any of this unless you were part of it. But by all means, continue to sling the false information and conjecture if it makes you feel better.


Facts:
When FCV was in ECNL up to 70 kids would show up for tryouts. - Conjecture. Unless you have tryout lists, this is simply made up. You don't know this and have no way of supporting this...argumentative.

Facts:
When DA launched and ECNL expanded FCV tryouts numbers plummeted to less than 10 outside kids. - Speculation. Unless you have tryout lists, this is simply made up. I personally saw the 07's when trying out and they had 3 full games going...i.e. ~66 players or more.

Facts:
FCV is not drawing outside talent like it used to. - Come on. This is simple conjecture attempting to be argumentative. You have no evidence to support any claim like this.

Facts:
All clubs are relying on internal talent more and more as staying put is easier for kids. - How can you possibly know the internal working and players, player development from EVERY club. More conjecture to be argumentative.

Facts:
FCV does not offer anything that 6 other clubs can’t also offer while staying closer to home and continue to play with established friends. - Wow...while you can compare clubs and offering, there isn't a club anywhere in NoVa that trains like FCV. I hear it from parents all the time that come in for tryouts. FCV is still getting stragglers from MU coming for tryouts as of this week. If a player wants to play near home and play with friends, that is fine. But the training the would get is not even close in comparison.

Facts:
Kids still like playing in HS. And FCV lost several players mid season to HS alone. - I do not know of ANY DA players that left to play HS. Some may not come to FCV for that reason, and that is a personal choice that is OK. Every player is different.

Facts:
FCV sold because the writing is on the wall if they stay in Loudoun.
- And you finish off with conjecture. Unless you are CZ, STJ owner or one of the lawyers involved, you have no idea why the club was sold. I have personally heard why the club was sold and it not b/c of the made up reason you state above.

Don't hate on FCV because the club has better teams at the DA level. Some kids fit in better at other clubs, nothing wrong with that. But if you want to get looked at by college coaches, FCV is the club in this area to do that. Regardless if the player is 12, 18, 1, or 3.


False. In the history of FCV DA, players 12 and 18 have never received a D1 offer. I am not sure they would be in the top 5 on another club but those players actually get D1 offers. So if those FCV players are better it is pretty obvious they are making a mistake in staying.
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Anonymous wrote:This thread is comedy gold!

So many that really have NO clue about FCV, showcases, recruiting, training...


It is real simple. The soccer talent is getting less concentrated with each rising graduation year due to more and more “elite” options. In a very short period of time it will no longer be enough just to be on a FCV DA team. When it was just McLean and FCV being kid 15 still meant you were kid 30 all of NoVA. Going forward being kid 15 at FCV or ANY DA/ECNL club means you are now kid 100-120 in NoVA. This is the simple product of dilution.

So if your kid is a rising U13/14 and you’re kid is not a top 5 player or at least a starter on the team then you should be thinking about a future change where you can become a starter. DA has not yet separated itself as the elite league either to bail your career sub out either.


I strongly disagree with your statement. But you know, opinions are like ______.



Opinions are like you?


Since you asked, No.

But I do know facts: 3 of the top 5 players at MU tried out for FCV and didn't make it at the 05 age group. FACT. So the Spirit/MU rosters starts at player #19 at highest in the area. Sort of goes against the bench players at FCV being worse than the top 5 at every other 'elite' club in the area.

Truth is, FCV's rosters are deeper than any 'elite' club in the area. FCV rotates starts among all players mostly and regardless of who starts, players play equal time for the most part.

But you wouldn't know any of this unless you were part of it. But by all means, continue to sling the false information and conjecture if it makes you feel better.


New poster--the above example says nothing about either club. First, you have no idea if the 5 were "top" or "bottom" players. The fact they were trying out makes it more likely they weren't the top five. Second, FCV and MU aren't the only two clubs in the area. So you can't make judgments about where a particular player fits in a ranking scheme. FCV rosters are relatively deep as you go up in age, the younger years are where you see more dilution across the area. The PP was correct that it's best for the player at the younger years to start at an elite option somewhere, to get minutes and exposure. Playing under pressure to perform in a game is different than practice and something you don't get much of when you spend most of your time on the bench. As mentioned by someone else, if you are a perennial sub on an FCV roster from u14-u17, you will not even show up on a u19 roster, you will be gone, and have lost your chance to compete and sign with a D1 school as well. It's not rocket science and very bizarre that you are arguing against such simple logic.


Well I do know they were in the top 5...

Play in this area long enough and you get to know the top players and parents. Most are great and just want what is best for their kid.

Follow the thread, FCV splits time...there are very few every game starters. Time is split equally as the rosters are deep. Maybe that will change, who knows. But the statements being made up as 'facts' and 'simple logic' are just that, made up.


Isn’t the whole point of the DA no return sub rule intended to develop and teach players how to play a full game or close to a full game like the rest of the world plays?


Well I don't know the intent behind the DA rules on substitution (website says to conform to the same way the rest of the world plays), but they can sub across 3 moments at U14 and below, which allows for the equal time. The game management by the coaches for the most part is pretty good. At U15 and up there is no re-entry. But the game management is good and time is distributed very well.
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