Since you asked, No. But I do know facts: 3 of the top 5 players at MU tried out for FCV and didn't make it at the 05 age group. FACT. So the Spirit/MU rosters starts at player #19 at highest in the area. Sort of goes against the bench players at FCV being worse than the top 5 at every other 'elite' club in the area. Truth is, FCV's rosters are deeper than any 'elite' club in the area. FCV rotates starts among all players mostly and regardless of who starts, players play equal time for the most part. But you wouldn't know any of this unless you were part of it. But by all means, continue to sling the false information and conjecture if it makes you feel better. |
05 and younger going forward at FCV will be fine IF they are starters. With so many ECNL/DA options available being a a career sub anywhere will no longer be enough. The talent just is no longer concentrated enough at those ages where simply being on the team is the differentiator it once was. And with ECNL beginning to regionalize by taking over VPL it is only going to get more diluted moving forward. |
Facts: When FCV was in ECNL up to 70 kids would show up for tryouts. Facts: When DA launched and ECNL expanded FCV tryouts numbers plummeted to less than 10 outside kids. Facts: FCV is not drawing outside talent like it used to. Facts: All clubs are relying on internal talent more and more as staying put is easier for kids. Facts: FCV does not offer anything that 6 other clubs can’t also offer while staying closer to home and continue to play with established friends. Facts: Kids still like playing in HS. And FCV lost several players mid season to HS alone. Facts: FCV sold because the writing is on the wall if they stay in Loudoun. |
Both are repugnant. |
Bobby Pup Interviewing for new gig for SURE! Once they see him in action tho - no go! FCV = stepping stone to get him in area for better job. Needs to work on communication. CZ - so what, has done his time, has a life, doesnt owe anyone anythng - especially someone else's kid. |
New poster--the above example says nothing about either club. First, you have no idea if the 5 were "top" or "bottom" players. The fact they were trying out makes it more likely they weren't the top five. Second, FCV and MU aren't the only two clubs in the area. So you can't make judgments about where a particular player fits in a ranking scheme. FCV rosters are relatively deep as you go up in age, the younger years are where you see more dilution across the area. The PP was correct that it's best for the player at the younger years to start at an elite option somewhere, to get minutes and exposure. Playing under pressure to perform in a game is different than practice and something you don't get much of when you spend most of your time on the bench. As mentioned by someone else, if you are a perennial sub on an FCV roster from u14-u17, you will not even show up on a u19 roster, you will be gone, and have lost your chance to compete and sign with a D1 school as well. It's not rocket science and very bizarre that you are arguing against such simple logic. |
- And you finish off with conjecture. Unless you are CZ, STJ owner or one of the lawyers involved, you have no idea why the club was sold. I have personally heard why the club was sold and it not b/c of the made up reason you state above. Don't hate on FCV because the club has better teams at the DA level. Some kids fit in better at other clubs, nothing wrong with that. But if you want to get looked at by college coaches, FCV is the club in this area to do that. Regardless if the player is 12, 18, 1, or 3. |
* one of the clubs |
Well I do know they were in the top 5... Play in this area long enough and you get to know the top players and parents. Most are great and just want what is best for their kid. Follow the thread, FCV splits time...there are very few every game starters. Time is split equally as the rosters are deep. Maybe that will change, who knows. But the statements being made up as 'facts' and 'simple logic' are just that, made up. |
Wow!!
Bobby is actually posting here! Lol!!! Only a coach would talk about the training environment and nobody mentions the training environment more than Bobby P. You know what is embarrassing to the DA? A DA coach who is trolling a mom’s soccer forum. |
Isn’t the whole point of the DA no return sub rule intended to develop and teach players how to play a full game or close to a full game like the rest of the world plays? |
How is that accomplished by splitting time? Shouldn’t FCV have stayed in ECNL if that is how they game manage? |
I've seen multiple FCV age groups play many times, and the starting lineup is the starting lineup, it doesn't change much. They don't shuffle players like a deck of cards; they have players they play to win in their given positions and then sub as needed. Do subs get a chance to play? Sure. Do they play anywhere near the minutes of the top players on a given team? No. |
False. In the history of FCV DA, players 12 and 18 have never received a D1 offer. I am not sure they would be in the top 5 on another club but those players actually get D1 offers. So if those FCV players are better it is pretty obvious they are making a mistake in staying. |
Well I don't know the intent behind the DA rules on substitution (website says to conform to the same way the rest of the world plays), but they can sub across 3 moments at U14 and below, which allows for the equal time. The game management by the coaches for the most part is pretty good. At U15 and up there is no re-entry. But the game management is good and time is distributed very well. |