Help - gay brother

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Anonymous wrote:I just don't get why gays think people need to accept gays in their private lives.

OP isn't refusing to hire gays, harassing them at work, looking to deny them civil rights, campaigning to overturn gay marriage, rounding up neighbors to chase out the gays who bought next door, or doing anything to affect actual RIGHTS that gays have.

She just doesn't want gays in her personal, most intimate life.

Why do gays get to dictate who people can have in their lives?

You're gay. Fine. You should have all the same rights as everyone else. But this whole idea that people have to welcome you and your lover into their lives and celebrate you is so childish.

Some people are not going to like or befriend you because your homosexuality makes them uncomfortable. As a racial minority, I've had whites (including gay whites!) not welcome me into their social circles.

There is no right or entitlement to others' love.

Deal with it.

Were those unwelcoming whites your family members?

Based on your post, I suspect the gay white people who shunned you did it for reasons completely unrelated to your skin color.

As far as the gay whites shunning me goes, I couldn't care less. But when you pull your head out of your ass one day, you'll figure out that a lot of gay whites are racists and ignorant towards minorities of all types. The only issue they are conveniently liberal on is sexuality.

I never denied that gay people can be racist.

Just like, as you've proven, racial minorities can be homophobic.

Being a minority in one sense obviously doesn't make you a good person, nor accepting of other minorities.

Np. Do people even know what homophobic means anymore? Homophobic does not mean a person annoyed you or their stance differs from yours and you happen to be discussing gays. Goodness. People like you are going to make the word lose all meaning and effect.

Referring to gay people as "the gays" when using it as "the gays want acceptance! The Gays think they're entitled! I don't know why the gays have to be so annoying!" IS homophobia. It sounds like you don't know what it means.

PP never used the term "the gays." You pulled that straight out of your ass.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I just don't get why gays think people need to accept gays in their private lives.

OP isn't refusing to hire gays, harassing them at work, looking to deny them civil rights, campaigning to overturn gay marriage, rounding up neighbors to chase out the gays who bought next door, or doing anything to affect actual RIGHTS that gays have.

She just doesn't want gays in her personal, most intimate life.

Why do gays get to dictate who people can have in their lives?

You're gay. Fine. You should have all the same rights as everyone else. But this whole idea that people have to welcome you and your lover into their lives and celebrate you is so childish.

Some people are not going to like or befriend you because your homosexuality makes them uncomfortable. As a racial minority, I've had whites (including gay whites!) not welcome me into their social circles.

There is no right or entitlement to others' love.

Deal with it.

Were those unwelcoming whites your family members?

Based on your post, I suspect the gay white people who shunned you did it for reasons completely unrelated to your skin color.

As far as the gay whites shunning me goes, I couldn't care less. But when you pull your head out of your ass one day, you'll figure out that a lot of gay whites are racists and ignorant towards minorities of all types. The only issue they are conveniently liberal on is sexuality.

I never denied that gay people can be racist.

Just like, as you've proven, racial minorities can be homophobic.

Being a minority in one sense obviously doesn't make you a good person, nor accepting of other minorities.

Np. Do people even know what homophobic means anymore? Homophobic does not mean a person annoyed you or their stance differs from yours and you happen to be discussing gays. Goodness. People like you are going to make the word lose all meaning and effect.

Referring to gay people as "the gays" when using it as "the gays want acceptance! The Gays think they're entitled! I don't know why the gays have to be so annoying!" IS homophobia. It sounds like you don't know what it means.

PP never used the term "the gays." You pulled that straight out of your ass.

Subtracting the word "the" doesn't make her statements any better.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just don't get why gays think people need to accept gays in their private lives.

OP isn't refusing to hire gays, harassing them at work, looking to deny them civil rights, campaigning to overturn gay marriage, rounding up neighbors to chase out the gays who bought next door, or doing anything to affect actual RIGHTS that gays have.

She just doesn't want gays in her personal, most intimate life.

Why do gays get to dictate who people can have in their lives?

You're gay. Fine. You should have all the same rights as everyone else. But this whole idea that people have to welcome you and your lover into their lives and celebrate you is so childish.

Some people are not going to like or befriend you because your homosexuality makes them uncomfortable. As a racial minority, I've had whites (including gay whites!) not welcome me into their social circles.

There is no right or entitlement to others' love.

Deal with it.

The OP's post isn't about welcoming LGBT people into her social circle. It isn't about not befriending a new neighbor or co-worker who happens to be gay. It is about her relationship with her brother. She disapproves of her brother's SO because the SO is the "wrong" sex. It is comparable to a family member who disapproves of your SO because s/he is a member of a different race, culture, ethnicity, religion, etc. In this case, her disapproval is so strong that she is only willing to have a relationship with her brother if he pretends the SO doesn't exist. No one expects OP to become best friends with her brother's SO. But she is expected to give her brother and his SO the basic respect of acknowledging/accepting their relationship.

MIL/FIL won't talk to me because I'm voting for Trump. I am fine with them voting for Clinton. I live in DC so my vote won't matter but they refuse to have anyone in their home who casts a vote for Trump. I didn't volunteer who I was voting for but they knew I am a registered Republican and harassed me until I told them. I think it's interesting that liberals who preach acceptance can be so unaccepting and my DC Republican friends are more open to other opinions without getting angry or judgmental.

Yep -- the only hate I see in this thread is from supposedly tolerant people directing their venom toward the OP. I have a gay relative. I don't hate her. But I disagree with some of the choices she's made. She doesn't have to agree with the choices I've made. We still talk. We still love each other. I'm not afraid of having a different opinion than most people. If that makes you want to call me names, so be it.

What choices? You don't have to like a person just because they are gay. But if the "choices" are their sexuality then that is ignorant and not a reason to dislike anythhrinf about them.

And no, I am sorry, but not tolerating hate and discrimination is NOT "being intolerant." That is a stupid, stupid argument that conservatives insist on using.

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OP called her brother disgusting.

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I think this thread has pretty much run its course and it's time to put it to bed.