80% of women swipe on just 20% of men on dating apps

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, men will sleep with almost any woman, while women are generally more picky about bed partners since pregnancy is a big risk to their life and long term well being. This is basic biology and hard wired into us, it’s not surprising that it manifests in all mating rituals.

No some men will sleep with any women. The percentage of men who will sleep with any woman is actually fairly small. If all men would sleep with any woman women would never complain about not finding a man. You could just go up to any man you wanted and he would sleep with you.

Men with options will only sleep with women above a certain level. If a guy's an 8 he's going to have a steady stream of 5's and 6's trying to get with him so there's no reason to bring himself down to banging 2's and 3's.

Men without options will sleep with nearly anyone if they've had a long enough dry spell and have a healthy sex drive.

It's weird how it's hard for you to admit that men who are "an 8" are likely dating women who are also "an 8." Like, you are really doubling down on "5s and 6s" chasing after these men.

I mean, look, I can't say because I don't believe you can quantify people's looks into a score, but I do think people naturally are drawn to equally good looking people.

It's always going to take more time and effort to casually sleep with women on your level than 1 or 2 leagues below you, which is why 8's sleep with 5's and 6's. It's not that they cant get 8's but the 6's are just easier and faster. You sound like you don't understand men (young men especially). Men love variety and aren't that picky with who they sleep with as long as she's semi attractive and he doesn't need to try too hard.

I know we are not supposed to use the R-word anymore but I am trying very, very hard not to call you it right now.

Are you seriously trying to argue that an attractive man won't play the field with less attractive women and use them for one night stands? You're living under a rock if you think this isn't occurring. Forget the numbers, they're not meant to be taken literally. It's to illustrate the concept of men being less picky about who they bang vs who they date/marry, and this dynamic is being magnified x10 on dating apps. A few hot men are inundated with matches from a multitude of women and use them for casual hookups.

Why don’t you just pay a prostitute? Why do you pester women on dating apps if you just want to “use them for casual hookups”? Too cheap?

Lots of men are using apps essentially as tool for free escort. They also lie to women wanting relationships or “exclusivity” to ditch condoms. Yes they just don’t want to pay the prostitutes. Which is why the only way for a woman to not get played is to select men who invest in her - planning dates, hoping trips etc., early on.

It’s not that all these women are unattractive - it’s just the number of men who are there just for free sex is overwhelming.

I wish there was a review feature on profiles to comment when guys ghost a lot.

I don't think that would be good, and I am a woman. What's to stop people from lying?

I ask for std tests and condoms, don’t put out until after 5 well planned dates or so. Those who are only in for free p…y will fall off

5 dates is fast. You may be a ho.

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Anonymous wrote:Studies have consistently found that women only swipe on the top 20% of men.

These repeatable results mean that 80% of men will experience perpetual rejection if they try to date.

No wonder there is a loneliness epidemic in the United States. This needs to stop.


How do we reverse / stop this from happening ?

Dating apps are designed to keep people single as long as possibly.

Think about it. Follow the money.

Very similar to diets like WW

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, men will sleep with almost any woman, while women are generally more picky about bed partners since pregnancy is a big risk to their life and long term well being. This is basic biology and hard wired into us, it’s not surprising that it manifests in all mating rituals.

No some men will sleep with any women. The percentage of men who will sleep with any woman is actually fairly small. If all men would sleep with any woman women would never complain about not finding a man. You could just go up to any man you wanted and he would sleep with you.

Men with options will only sleep with women above a certain level. If a guy's an 8 he's going to have a steady stream of 5's and 6's trying to get with him so there's no reason to bring himself down to banging 2's and 3's.

Men without options will sleep with nearly anyone if they've had a long enough dry spell and have a healthy sex drive.

It's weird how it's hard for you to admit that men who are "an 8" are likely dating women who are also "an 8." Like, you are really doubling down on "5s and 6s" chasing after these men.

I mean, look, I can't say because I don't believe you can quantify people's looks into a score, but I do think people naturally are drawn to equally good looking people.

It's always going to take more time and effort to casually sleep with women on your level than 1 or 2 leagues below you, which is why 8's sleep with 5's and 6's. It's not that they cant get 8's but the 6's are just easier and faster. You sound like you don't understand men (young men especially). Men love variety and aren't that picky with who they sleep with as long as she's semi attractive and he doesn't need to try too hard.

I know we are not supposed to use the R-word anymore but I am trying very, very hard not to call you it right now.

Are you seriously trying to argue that an attractive man won't play the field with less attractive women and use them for one night stands? You're living under a rock if you think this isn't occurring. Forget the numbers, they're not meant to be taken literally. It's to illustrate the concept of men being less picky about who they bang vs who they date/marry, and this dynamic is being magnified x10 on dating apps. A few hot men are inundated with matches from a multitude of women and use them for casual hookups.

Why don’t you just pay a prostitute? Why do you pester women on dating apps if you just want to “use them for casual hookups”? Too cheap?

Lots of men are using apps essentially as tool for free escort. They also lie to women wanting relationships or “exclusivity” to ditch condoms. Yes they just don’t want to pay the prostitutes. Which is why the only way for a woman to not get played is to select men who invest in her - planning dates, hoping trips etc., early on.

It’s not that all these women are unattractive - it’s just the number of men who are there just for free sex is overwhelming.

I wish there was a review feature on profiles to comment when guys ghost a lot.

I don't think that would be good, and I am a woman. What's to stop people from lying?

I ask for std tests and condoms, don’t put out until after 5 well planned dates or so. Those who are only in for free p…y will fall off

5 dates is fast. You may be a ho.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, men will sleep with almost any woman, while women are generally more picky about bed partners since pregnancy is a big risk to their life and long term well being. This is basic biology and hard wired into us, it’s not surprising that it manifests in all mating rituals.

No some men will sleep with any women. The percentage of men who will sleep with any woman is actually fairly small. If all men would sleep with any woman women would never complain about not finding a man. You could just go up to any man you wanted and he would sleep with you.

Men with options will only sleep with women above a certain level. If a guy's an 8 he's going to have a steady stream of 5's and 6's trying to get with him so there's no reason to bring himself down to banging 2's and 3's.

Men without options will sleep with nearly anyone if they've had a long enough dry spell and have a healthy sex drive.

It's weird how it's hard for you to admit that men who are "an 8" are likely dating women who are also "an 8." Like, you are really doubling down on "5s and 6s" chasing after these men.

I mean, look, I can't say because I don't believe you can quantify people's looks into a score, but I do think people naturally are drawn to equally good looking people.

It's always going to take more time and effort to casually sleep with women on your level than 1 or 2 leagues below you, which is why 8's sleep with 5's and 6's. It's not that they cant get 8's but the 6's are just easier and faster. You sound like you don't understand men (young men especially). Men love variety and aren't that picky with who they sleep with as long as she's semi attractive and he doesn't need to try too hard.

I know we are not supposed to use the R-word anymore but I am trying very, very hard not to call you it right now.

Are you seriously trying to argue that an attractive man won't play the field with less attractive women and use them for one night stands? You're living under a rock if you think this isn't occurring. Forget the numbers, they're not meant to be taken literally. It's to illustrate the concept of men being less picky about who they bang vs who they date/marry, and this dynamic is being magnified x10 on dating apps. A few hot men are inundated with matches from a multitude of women and use them for casual hookups.

Why don’t you just pay a prostitute? Why do you pester women on dating apps if you just want to “use them for casual hookups”? Too cheap?

Lots of men are using apps essentially as tool for free escort. They also lie to women wanting relationships or “exclusivity” to ditch condoms. Yes they just don’t want to pay the prostitutes. Which is why the only way for a woman to not get played is to select men who invest in her - planning dates, hoping trips etc., early on.

It’s not that all these women are unattractive - it’s just the number of men who are there just for free sex is overwhelming.

I wish there was a review feature on profiles to comment when guys ghost a lot.

I don't think that would be good, and I am a woman. What's to stop people from lying?

I ask for std tests and condoms, don’t put out until after 5 well planned dates or so. Those who are only in for free p…y will fall off

5 dates is fast. You may be a ho.

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I said well planned dates…. It’s usually over a month since first intro not fast by OLD standards

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, men will sleep with almost any woman, while women are generally more picky about bed partners since pregnancy is a big risk to their life and long term well being. This is basic biology and hard wired into us, it’s not surprising that it manifests in all mating rituals.

No some men will sleep with any women. The percentage of men who will sleep with any woman is actually fairly small. If all men would sleep with any woman women would never complain about not finding a man. You could just go up to any man you wanted and he would sleep with you.

Men with options will only sleep with women above a certain level. If a guy's an 8 he's going to have a steady stream of 5's and 6's trying to get with him so there's no reason to bring himself down to banging 2's and 3's.

Men without options will sleep with nearly anyone if they've had a long enough dry spell and have a healthy sex drive.

It's weird how it's hard for you to admit that men who are "an 8" are likely dating women who are also "an 8." Like, you are really doubling down on "5s and 6s" chasing after these men.

I mean, look, I can't say because I don't believe you can quantify people's looks into a score, but I do think people naturally are drawn to equally good looking people.

It's always going to take more time and effort to casually sleep with women on your level than 1 or 2 leagues below you, which is why 8's sleep with 5's and 6's. It's not that they cant get 8's but the 6's are just easier and faster. You sound like you don't understand men (young men especially). Men love variety and aren't that picky with who they sleep with as long as she's semi attractive and he doesn't need to try too hard.

I know we are not supposed to use the R-word anymore but I am trying very, very hard not to call you it right now.

Are you seriously trying to argue that an attractive man won't play the field with less attractive women and use them for one night stands? You're living under a rock if you think this isn't occurring. Forget the numbers, they're not meant to be taken literally. It's to illustrate the concept of men being less picky about who they bang vs who they date/marry, and this dynamic is being magnified x10 on dating apps. A few hot men are inundated with matches from a multitude of women and use them for casual hookups.

You have a very shallow view of men. Likely because that’s what YOU would do (if you could). Lots of gorgeous men want to wife up a great woman and start a family.

It’s really sad you think all men are just horn dogs who can’t control themselves. You don’t think very highly of other men, do you?

If you've been in your 20's any time recently, living in a city, knowing a mix of both men and women and listening to their dating experiences, you will KNOW this is happening on a large scale. I'm not projecting what I wish I could do on other men, I'm simply reporting my observations. I know men who are models (or could be) and literally have slept with over 100 women. They are playing the field like crazy. I hear from female friends and relatives all the time about how they go on dates with hot guys and then get ghosted immediately after sex or after a few dates. Men ghosting after sex is so common that it's become a meme. Are you guys just old?

More evidence you're an idiot, you're shocked to find out people on a parenting forum are, you know, old enough to be parents.

You think someone in their 20’s or who was recently in their 20’s can’t be a parent? And you’re calling someone else an idiot? Wow.

I mean this phenomenon has been going on for at least 10 years so if you’re like… late 30’s or younger you should be aware of it.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, men will sleep with almost any woman, while women are generally more picky about bed partners since pregnancy is a big risk to their life and long term well being. This is basic biology and hard wired into us, it’s not surprising that it manifests in all mating rituals.

No some men will sleep with any women. The percentage of men who will sleep with any woman is actually fairly small. If all men would sleep with any woman women would never complain about not finding a man. You could just go up to any man you wanted and he would sleep with you.

Men with options will only sleep with women above a certain level. If a guy's an 8 he's going to have a steady stream of 5's and 6's trying to get with him so there's no reason to bring himself down to banging 2's and 3's.

Men without options will sleep with nearly anyone if they've had a long enough dry spell and have a healthy sex drive.

It's weird how it's hard for you to admit that men who are "an 8" are likely dating women who are also "an 8." Like, you are really doubling down on "5s and 6s" chasing after these men.

I mean, look, I can't say because I don't believe you can quantify people's looks into a score, but I do think people naturally are drawn to equally good looking people.

It's always going to take more time and effort to casually sleep with women on your level than 1 or 2 leagues below you, which is why 8's sleep with 5's and 6's. It's not that they cant get 8's but the 6's are just easier and faster. You sound like you don't understand men (young men especially). Men love variety and aren't that picky with who they sleep with as long as she's semi attractive and he doesn't need to try too hard.

I know we are not supposed to use the R-word anymore but I am trying very, very hard not to call you it right now.

Are you seriously trying to argue that an attractive man won't play the field with less attractive women and use them for one night stands? You're living under a rock if you think this isn't occurring. Forget the numbers, they're not meant to be taken literally. It's to illustrate the concept of men being less picky about who they bang vs who they date/marry, and this dynamic is being magnified x10 on dating apps. A few hot men are inundated with matches from a multitude of women and use them for casual hookups.

Why don’t you just pay a prostitute? Why do you pester women on dating apps if you just want to “use them for casual hookups”? Too cheap?

Lots of men are using apps essentially as tool for free escort. They also lie to women wanting relationships or “exclusivity” to ditch condoms. Yes they just don’t want to pay the prostitutes. Which is why the only way for a woman to not get played is to select men who invest in her - planning dates, hoping trips etc., early on.

It’s not that all these women are unattractive - it’s just the number of men who are there just for free sex is overwhelming.

I wish there was a review feature on profiles to comment when guys ghost a lot.

I don't think that would be good, and I am a woman. What's to stop people from lying?

I ask for std tests and condoms, don’t put out until after 5 well planned dates or so. Those who are only in for free p…y will fall off

I don’t think 5 dates is realistic. All the relationships I have been in, the chemistry developed (if it did) well before 5 dates. Nature took it’s course, and we had sex. It wasn’t forced, it just naturally happened. Once you pass a threshold time w/o sex, the relationship becomes this weird friend zone, with promise of romance that just doesn’t happen. You can get sucked in and waste a lot of time, and it’s hard to get out b/c really you’re just friends.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, men will sleep with almost any woman, while women are generally more picky about bed partners since pregnancy is a big risk to their life and long term well being. This is basic biology and hard wired into us, it’s not surprising that it manifests in all mating rituals.

I’ve had several relationships where chemistry seemed great but men were two-timing and eventually it fell apart.
So presumably you just take risk ?

No some men will sleep with any women. The percentage of men who will sleep with any woman is actually fairly small. If all men would sleep with any woman women would never complain about not finding a man. You could just go up to any man you wanted and he would sleep with you.

Men with options will only sleep with women above a certain level. If a guy's an 8 he's going to have a steady stream of 5's and 6's trying to get with him so there's no reason to bring himself down to banging 2's and 3's.

Men without options will sleep with nearly anyone if they've had a long enough dry spell and have a healthy sex drive.

It's weird how it's hard for you to admit that men who are "an 8" are likely dating women who are also "an 8." Like, you are really doubling down on "5s and 6s" chasing after these men.

I mean, look, I can't say because I don't believe you can quantify people's looks into a score, but I do think people naturally are drawn to equally good looking people.

It's always going to take more time and effort to casually sleep with women on your level than 1 or 2 leagues below you, which is why 8's sleep with 5's and 6's. It's not that they cant get 8's but the 6's are just easier and faster. You sound like you don't understand men (young men especially). Men love variety and aren't that picky with who they sleep with as long as she's semi attractive and he doesn't need to try too hard.

I know we are not supposed to use the R-word anymore but I am trying very, very hard not to call you it right now.

Are you seriously trying to argue that an attractive man won't play the field with less attractive women and use them for one night stands? You're living under a rock if you think this isn't occurring. Forget the numbers, they're not meant to be taken literally. It's to illustrate the concept of men being less picky about who they bang vs who they date/marry, and this dynamic is being magnified x10 on dating apps. A few hot men are inundated with matches from a multitude of women and use them for casual hookups.

Why don’t you just pay a prostitute? Why do you pester women on dating apps if you just want to “use them for casual hookups”? Too cheap?

Lots of men are using apps essentially as tool for free escort. They also lie to women wanting relationships or “exclusivity” to ditch condoms. Yes they just don’t want to pay the prostitutes. Which is why the only way for a woman to not get played is to select men who invest in her - planning dates, hoping trips etc., early on.

It’s not that all these women are unattractive - it’s just the number of men who are there just for free sex is overwhelming.

I wish there was a review feature on profiles to comment when guys ghost a lot.

I don't think that would be good, and I am a woman. What's to stop people from lying?

I ask for std tests and condoms, don’t put out until after 5 well planned dates or so. Those who are only in for free p…y will fall off

I don’t think 5 dates is realistic. All the relationships I have been in, the chemistry developed (if it did) well before 5 dates. Nature took it’s course, and we had sex. It wasn’t forced, it just naturally happened. Once you pass a threshold time w/o sex, the relationship becomes this weird friend zone, with promise of romance that just doesn’t happen. You can get sucked in and waste a lot of time, and it’s hard to get out b/c really you’re just friends.

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I think five dates is realistic. I'm a man and I waited for five dates plenty of times. I usually at least kissed a woman before then, but not always. Sooner can be good too. Some of my most serious relationships in my life moved fast with sex on second dates.

Some women move really slowly and some of those women send mixed signals. It can be very frustrating but sometimes it's worth the wait. I think sending clear signals of interest is important, even if you're not ready for sex. A couple of women moved too slowly for me by making me think they just wanted friendship when they really wanted a slow burn romance. They told me later, after it was too late.

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DP - You can say that you do not believe in God (or a god) without belittling the faith of hundreds of millions of people. Religious bigotry is as detestable as any other type.

If you do not believe, that is great. But it does not give you the right to mock the beliefs of others.

Lolol okie dokie magic sky son

There you are, you screwed up bigot you. Easy to see that your parents are not Catholic, as having you as a daughter would make them strong supporters of abortion rights. Not just because they would regret having you (which they do, rest assured), but also because you needed to exercise these rights from an early age.

Are you racist as well as bigoted? All signs point to yes. Be honest now. How often did you pray to the Magic Sky Man that you were not pregnant or did not have an STI? Likely three times a day, starting in junior high. I am sure hundreds of boys prayed for this with you.

You will embarrass yourself by pretending otherwise. It is your nature. However, your need for approval shows through your every post (including your transparent sock-puppeting). Keep going, little bigot. Your every post makes women on here feel better because, well, they are not you.

I could say I was going to pray to the Magic Sky Man for you. However, everyone knows (including, and most sharply, your family) that you are a sad, slutty, lost cause. I will pray to the Magic Sky Man for your mom and dad (so that they forgive themselves for how you turned out).

You really think you did something here, dontcha? What next, start talking about how white Christian men are the most persecuted population?? Give me a break. Your mommy is calling you, just be snack time. Why are you on a mommy website anyways?

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Anonymous wrote:I think five dates is realistic. I'm a man and I waited for five dates plenty of times. I usually at least kissed a woman before then, but not always. Sooner can be good too. Some of my most serious relationships in my life moved fast with sex on second dates.

Some women move really slowly and some of those women send mixed signals. It can be very frustrating but sometimes it's worth the wait. I think sending clear signals of interest is important, even if you're not ready for sex. A couple of women moved too slowly for me by making me think they just wanted friendship when they really wanted a slow burn romance. They told me later, after it was too late.

And yet you are still unmarried floating from relationship to relationship. The fact that “slow” women didn’t cut it for just shows you are not interested in something long term. Only mid term. Long term takes patience and time to build a relationship .
Plenty of spouses meet each other at work and don’t sleep after 5 timed seeing each other.
This quick sex or I’m out mentality is really damaging for developing emotional connections and relationships

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Anonymous wrote:I think five dates is realistic. I'm a man and I waited for five dates plenty of times. I usually at least kissed a woman before then, but not always. Sooner can be good too. Some of my most serious relationships in my life moved fast with sex on second dates.

Some women move really slowly and some of those women send mixed signals. It can be very frustrating but sometimes it's worth the wait. I think sending clear signals of interest is important, even if you're not ready for sex. A couple of women moved too slowly for me by making me think they just wanted friendship when they really wanted a slow burn romance. They told me later, after it was too late.

And yet you are still unmarried floating from relationship to relationship. The fact that “slow” women didn’t cut it for just shows you are not interested in something long term. Only mid term. Long term takes patience and time to build a relationship .
Plenty of spouses meet each other at work and don’t sleep after 5 timed seeing each other.
This quick sex or I’m out mentality is really damaging for developing emotional connections and relationships

DP, “slow” can mean the chemistry is not there, and there’s no reason to waste more time if that’s what you’re looking for.

It’s ok to set up whatever threshold for yourself, but realize some see it differently.

Unmatched sex drive is a recipe for failure, you’ve got to make sure you’re on the same page early on.

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Anonymous wrote:I think five dates is realistic. I'm a man and I waited for five dates plenty of times. I usually at least kissed a woman before then, but not always. Sooner can be good too. Some of my most serious relationships in my life moved fast with sex on second dates.

Some women move really slowly and some of those women send mixed signals. It can be very frustrating but sometimes it's worth the wait. I think sending clear signals of interest is important, even if you're not ready for sex. A couple of women moved too slowly for me by making me think they just wanted friendship when they really wanted a slow burn romance. They told me later, after it was too late.

And yet you are still unmarried floating from relationship to relationship. The fact that “slow” women didn’t cut it for just shows you are not interested in something long term. Only mid term. Long term takes patience and time to build a relationship .
Plenty of spouses meet each other at work and don’t sleep after 5 timed seeing each other.
This quick sex or I’m out mentality is really damaging for developing emotional connections and relationships

DP, “slow” can mean the chemistry is not there, and there’s no reason to waste more time if that’s what you’re looking for.

It’s ok to set up whatever threshold for yourself, but realize some see it differently.

Unmatched sex drive is a recipe for failure, you’ve got to make sure you’re on the same page early on.

No it doesn’t equate low L or no attraction at all. She might not like how you not plan dates in advance, talk about your exes, relationships, have instant gratification attitude, might have periods, upcoming travels etc. You treat women disposable and thus your relationships all have a timer

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, men will sleep with almost any woman, while women are generally more picky about bed partners since pregnancy is a big risk to their life and long term well being. This is basic biology and hard wired into us, it’s not surprising that it manifests in all mating rituals.

I’ve had several relationships where chemistry seemed great but men were two-timing and eventually it fell apart.
So presumably you just take risk ?

No some men will sleep with any women. The percentage of men who will sleep with any woman is actually fairly small. If all men would sleep with any woman women would never complain about not finding a man. You could just go up to any man you wanted and he would sleep with you.

Men with options will only sleep with women above a certain level. If a guy's an 8 he's going to have a steady stream of 5's and 6's trying to get with him so there's no reason to bring himself down to banging 2's and 3's.

Men without options will sleep with nearly anyone if they've had a long enough dry spell and have a healthy sex drive.

It's weird how it's hard for you to admit that men who are "an 8" are likely dating women who are also "an 8." Like, you are really doubling down on "5s and 6s" chasing after these men.

I mean, look, I can't say because I don't believe you can quantify people's looks into a score, but I do think people naturally are drawn to equally good looking people.

It's always going to take more time and effort to casually sleep with women on your level than 1 or 2 leagues below you, which is why 8's sleep with 5's and 6's. It's not that they cant get 8's but the 6's are just easier and faster. You sound like you don't understand men (young men especially). Men love variety and aren't that picky with who they sleep with as long as she's semi attractive and he doesn't need to try too hard.

I know we are not supposed to use the R-word anymore but I am trying very, very hard not to call you it right now.

Are you seriously trying to argue that an attractive man won't play the field with less attractive women and use them for one night stands? You're living under a rock if you think this isn't occurring. Forget the numbers, they're not meant to be taken literally. It's to illustrate the concept of men being less picky about who they bang vs who they date/marry, and this dynamic is being magnified x10 on dating apps. A few hot men are inundated with matches from a multitude of women and use them for casual hookups.

Why don’t you just pay a prostitute? Why do you pester women on dating apps if you just want to “use them for casual hookups”? Too cheap?

Lots of men are using apps essentially as tool for free escort. They also lie to women wanting relationships or “exclusivity” to ditch condoms. Yes they just don’t want to pay the prostitutes. Which is why the only way for a woman to not get played is to select men who invest in her - planning dates, hoping trips etc., early on.

It’s not that all these women are unattractive - it’s just the number of men who are there just for free sex is overwhelming.

I wish there was a review feature on profiles to comment when guys ghost a lot.

I don't think that would be good, and I am a woman. What's to stop people from lying?

I ask for std tests and condoms, don’t put out until after 5 well planned dates or so. Those who are only in for free p…y will fall off

I don’t think 5 dates is realistic. All the relationships I have been in, the chemistry developed (if it did) well before 5 dates. Nature took its course, and we had sex. It wasn’t forced, it just naturally happened. Once you pass a threshold time w/o sex, the relationship becomes this weird friend zone, with promise of romance that just doesn’t happen. You can get sucked in and waste a lot of time, and it’s hard to get out b/c really you’re just friends.

How’s that working out for you?

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Anonymous wrote:I think five dates is realistic. I'm a man and I waited for five dates plenty of times. I usually at least kissed a woman before then, but not always. Sooner can be good too. Some of my most serious relationships in my life moved fast with sex on second dates.

Some women move really slowly and some of those women send mixed signals. It can be very frustrating but sometimes it's worth the wait. I think sending clear signals of interest is important, even if you're not ready for sex. A couple of women moved too slowly for me by making me think they just wanted friendship when they really wanted a slow burn romance. They told me later, after it was too late.

And yet you are still unmarried floating from relationship to relationship. The fact that “slow” women didn’t cut it for just shows you are not interested in something long term. Only mid term. Long term takes patience and time to build a relationship .
Plenty of spouses meet each other at work and don’t sleep after 5 timed seeing each other.
This quick sex or I’m out mentality is really damaging for developing emotional connections and relationships

DP, “slow” can mean the chemistry is not there, and there’s no reason to waste more time if that’s what you’re looking for.

It’s ok to set up whatever threshold for yourself, but realize some see it differently.

Unmatched sex drive is a recipe for failure, you’ve got to make sure you’re on the same page early on.

No it doesn’t equate low L or no attraction at all. She might not like how you not plan dates in advance, talk about your exes, relationships, have instant gratification attitude, might have periods, upcoming travels etc. You treat women disposable and thus your relationships all have a timer

You’re such a basket of red flags which would be an automatic skip for many. You sound like you see your self as the prize, the one to be impressed and won over. Does the man need to plan all the dates in advance and submit them to your judgement? Ok for the man to take the lead, but why can’t think of something to do on at least one of those dates, unless you’re completely boring and have no interests or hobbies.

You’re going to be evaluated as a partner too, and for men, sex is a criterion for sure, besides how you talk about your ex, relationships etc. The prize is not you, it’s building a great relationship together, and sex is an important part of it. If it’s missing, no point investing more time in it.

You’re bound to be alone, because the men that have options won’t put up with your attitude, and the ones that supplicate are a turn off. A good rule of thumb is to find a partner that matches the effort you put in.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think five dates is realistic. I'm a man and I waited for five dates plenty of times. I usually at least kissed a woman before then, but not always. Sooner can be good too. Some of my most serious relationships in my life moved fast with sex on second dates.

Some women move really slowly and some of those women send mixed signals. It can be very frustrating but sometimes it's worth the wait. I think sending clear signals of interest is important, even if you're not ready for sex. A couple of women moved too slowly for me by making me think they just wanted friendship when they really wanted a slow burn romance. They told me later, after it was too late.

And yet you are still unmarried floating from relationship to relationship. The fact that “slow” women didn’t cut it for just shows you are not interested in something long term. Only mid term. Long term takes patience and time to build a relationship .
Plenty of spouses meet each other at work and don’t sleep after 5 timed seeing each other.
This quick sex or I’m out mentality is really damaging for developing emotional connections and relationships

DP, “slow” can mean the chemistry is not there, and there’s no reason to waste more time if that’s what you’re looking for.

It’s ok to set up whatever threshold for yourself, but realize some see it differently.

Unmatched sex drive is a recipe for failure, you’ve got to make sure you’re on the same page early on.

Imagine a world where you have chemistry, but you don’t have sex right away.