Trump govt is deporting Green Card holder student exercising free speech

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Judge has blocked his deportation

https://news.yahoo.com/federal-judge-blocks-trump-administration-from-deporting-pro-palestinian-activist-mahmoud-khalil-203724926.html

No he hasn't. This judge has no jurisdiction over Khalil.

LOL, did you go to the Trump University Law School?

Jesse Furman from the Southern District of New York doesn't have jurisdiction to hear a habeas petition of someone being held in Louisiana.

The filing was made when he was still in the NJ area. He was kidnapped by the government and shipped off to a GOP friendly circuit court jurisdiction.

Well, he is actively campaigning for and supporting people who engage in kidnapping (as well as torture and murder) so he probably understands the logistics of kidnapping better than most might. At least he’s got that going for him.

I actually don’t support this to be clear but I think the hysterics about “kidnapping” here are ridiculous. Khalil knows what actual kidnapping is — he has openly supported it. This is not kidnapping and the misuse of the phrase is appalling.

Your logic is appalling

This is kidnapping and your side is trying to brush it under the carpet so anyone else who might do something Trump won't like doesn't get their wind up and decide to band together.

Coz that is a lot of people he has targeted.

I literally wrote “I actually don’t support this to be clear” in my post. Also, I voted for Harris.

But facts and grounding in reality have never been the provenance of the pro-Palestine movement. So your inability to read doesn’t surprise me.

I know what you wrote.

It's not legal
And it's a dictator move

You can't just take people like this in country. Full stop

Well, it does seem to be something Khalil is quite in support of himself. But I agree that the US should have higher standards than Hamas, even if Khalil himself is a strong supporter of kidnapping innocents, including babies.

That having been said, this isn’t kidnapping and it’s offensive to describe it as such.

The bots are working overtime.

Kidnapping babies???

Just stop. Facts matter.

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Anonymous wrote:Judge has blocked his deportation

https://news.yahoo.com/federal-judge-blocks-trump-administration-from-deporting-pro-palestinian-activist-mahmoud-khalil-203724926.html

No he hasn't. This judge has no jurisdiction over Khalil.

LOL, did you go to the Trump University Law School?

Jesse Furman from the Southern District of New York doesn't have jurisdiction to hear a habeas petition of someone being held in Louisiana.

The filing was made when he was still in the NJ area. He was kidnapped by the government and shipped off to a GOP friendly circuit court jurisdiction.

Well, he is actively campaigning for and supporting people who engage in kidnapping (as well as torture and murder) so he probably understands the logistics of kidnapping better than most might. At least he’s got that going for him.

I actually don’t support this to be clear but I think the hysterics about “kidnapping” here are ridiculous. Khalil knows what actual kidnapping is — he has openly supported it. This is not kidnapping and the misuse of the phrase is appalling.

Your logic is appalling

This is kidnapping and your side is trying to brush it under the carpet so anyone else who might do something Trump won't like doesn't get their wind up and decide to band together.

Coz that is a lot of people he has targeted.

I literally wrote “I actually don’t support this to be clear” in my post. Also, I voted for Harris.

But facts and grounding in reality have never been the provenance of the pro-Palestine movement. So your inability to read doesn’t surprise me.

I know what you wrote.

It's not legal
And it's a dictator move

You can't just take people like this in country. Full stop

Well, it does seem to be something Khalil is quite in support of himself. But I agree that the US should have higher standards than Hamas, even if Khalil himself is a strong supporter of kidnapping innocents, including babies.

That having been said, this isn’t kidnapping and it’s offensive to describe it as such.

Armed officers physically removed him from his residence without legal cause to do so. How do you define it otherwise?

And then absconded to a secret location where his family and attorney cannot check if he is alive or dead.

He was kidnapped by plain clothes law enforcement of some kind, probably illegally, probably with no warrant, no probable cause, no due process.

This is dictatorship in action.

They will come for you next if you don't keep quiet, says the dictator.

Chilling. Horrifying. Nazi Germany II.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When you are overtly advocating for violent terrorism, this is a risk. He was espousing terroristic activity. It’s literally a law.

Get your facts straight.

He never advocated for violent terrorism.

That is a LIE. Fox News told you that, right? Or Dumpus? Lies LIES LIES.

He's been arrested for exercising his First Amendment rights to speak his mind, his opinion.

DP. It's not nearly as clear cut as you suggest.

Khalil acted as a negotiator and sometimes spokesperson for CUAD (Columbia University Apartheid Divest).

CUAD explicitly and officially issued a statement supporting Hamas and 10/7. As quoted in the Times:

“We support liberation by any means necessary, including armed resistance,” the group, Columbia University Apartheid Divest, said in its statement revoking the apology.

The group marked the anniversary of the Oct. 7 attack on Israel by distributing a newspaper with a headline that used Hamas’s name for it: “One Year Since Al-Aqsa Flood, Revolution Until Victory,” it read, over a picture of Hamas fighters breaching the security fence to Israel. And the group posted an essay calling the attack a “moral, military and political victory” and quoting Ismail Haniyeh, the assassinated former political leader of Hamas.

“The Palestinian resistance is moving their struggle to a new phase of escalation and it is our duty to meet them there,” the group wrote on Oct. 7 on Telegram. “It is our duty to fight for our freedom!”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/09/nyregion/columbia-pro-palestinian-group-hamas.html

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Anonymous wrote:Judge has blocked his deportation

https://news.yahoo.com/federal-judge-blocks-trump-administration-from-deporting-pro-palestinian-activist-mahmoud-khalil-203724926.html

No he hasn't. This judge has no jurisdiction over Khalil.

LOL, did you go to the Trump University Law School?

Jesse Furman from the Southern District of New York doesn't have jurisdiction to hear a habeas petition of someone being held in Louisiana.

The filing was made when he was still in the NJ area. He was kidnapped by the government and shipped off to a GOP friendly circuit court jurisdiction.

Well, he is actively campaigning for and supporting people who engage in kidnapping (as well as torture and murder) so he probably understands the logistics of kidnapping better than most might. At least he’s got that going for him.

I actually don’t support this to be clear but I think the hysterics about “kidnapping” here are ridiculous. Khalil knows what actual kidnapping is — he has openly supported it. This is not kidnapping and the misuse of the phrase is appalling.

Your logic is appalling

This is kidnapping and your side is trying to brush it under the carpet so anyone else who might do something Trump won't like doesn't get their wind up and decide to band together.

Coz that is a lot of people he has targeted.

I literally wrote “I actually don’t support this to be clear” in my post. Also, I voted for Harris.

But facts and grounding in reality have never been the provenance of the pro-Palestine movement. So your inability to read doesn’t surprise me.

I know what you wrote.

It's not legal
And it's a dictator move

You can't just take people like this in country. Full stop

Well, it does seem to be something Khalil is quite in support of himself. But I agree that the US should have higher standards than Hamas, even if Khalil himself is a strong supporter of kidnapping innocents, including babies.

That having been said, this isn’t kidnapping and it’s offensive to describe it as such.

Armed officers physically removed him from his residence without legal cause to do so. How do you define it otherwise?

Ask the Hamas supporters who are big fans of kidnapping.

Huh? The US government should act like Hamas? (I think Hesgeth is advocating for this but I do not agree.)

The US government should not and is not acting like Hamas.

I do not support the position of the government but this isn’t kidnapping and it’s not helping Khalil’s cause to frame it that way, especially because he seems to be quite a supporter of kidnapping babies himself.

This is the very definition of kidnapping even if you don't like people thinking of it that way.

This is very likely going to help him. More awareness of his kidnapping and imprisonment. Why are you lying?

The only people who consider this kidnapping are the extremely online left. They are unhinged from reality as usual. Like other 90/10 issues where the extreme finds itself on the side of the 10%, ridiculous hysterics do not help the cause.

Focus on how there is lack of due process. Focus on our commitment to the first amendment. Focus on our support of legal immigration, which Khalil did. All that might move this into an issue with general support from moderates and conservatives. But all this whining about “kidnapping” of someone who celebrated 10/7, an event where babies were actually kidnapped (assuming you aren’t a Hamas denialist), just alienates people who could be persuaded of this wrongness of this.

I know you won’t listen. The extreme left is very good at alienating everyone else with their absurdly overblown rhetoric.

[Anonymous]

Any one else would describe the events as kidnapping if some one else was taken in this way

Just because you dislike what he was doing, doesn't change that fact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:When you are overtly advocating for violent terrorism, this is a risk. He was espousing terroristic activity. It’s literally a law.

Get your facts straight.

He never advocated for violent terrorism.

That is a LIE. Fox News told you that, right? Or Dumpus? Lies LIES LIES.

He's been arrested for exercising his First Amendment rights to speak his mind, his opinion.

DP. It's not nearly as clear cut as you suggest.

Khalil acted as a negotiator and sometimes spokesperson for CUAD (Columbia University Apartheid Divest).

CUAD explicitly and officially issued a statement supporting Hamas and 10/7. As quoted in the Times:

“We support liberation by any means necessary, including armed resistance,” the group, Columbia University Apartheid Divest, said in its statement revoking the apology.

The group marked the anniversary of the Oct. 7 attack on Israel by distributing a newspaper with a headline that used Hamas’s name for it: “One Year Since Al-Aqsa Flood, Revolution Until Victory,” it read, over a picture of Hamas fighters breaching the security fence to Israel. And the group posted an essay calling the attack a “moral, military and political victory” and quoting Ismail Haniyeh, the assassinated former political leader of Hamas.

“The Palestinian resistance is moving their struggle to a new phase of escalation and it is our duty to meet them there,” the group wrote on Oct. 7 on Telegram. “It is our duty to fight for our freedom!”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/09/nyregion/columbia-pro-palestinian-group-hamas.html

That's pretty damning, honestly.

I hope the Democrats have enough sense not to jump into this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any one else would describe the events as kidnapping if some one else was taken in this way

Just because you dislike what he was doing, doesn't change that fact.

I give up. Keep on with your enthusiastic attempt to alienate everyone but the extreme online left.

You know a lot of moderates and Republicans might actually be interested in trying to do the right thing here, but you sound so crazy that it’s easy to believe that you aren’t in favor of doing the right thing.

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Anonymous wrote:When you are overtly advocating for violent terrorism, this is a risk. He was espousing terroristic activity. It’s literally a law.

Get your facts straight.

He never advocated for violent terrorism.

That is a LIE. Fox News told you that, right? Or Dumpus? Lies LIES LIES.

He's been arrested for exercising his First Amendment rights to speak his mind, his opinion.

DP. It's not nearly as clear cut as you suggest.

Khalil acted as a negotiator and sometimes spokesperson for CUAD (Columbia University Apartheid Divest).

CUAD explicitly and officially issued a statement supporting Hamas and 10/7. As quoted in the Times:

“We support liberation by any means necessary, including armed resistance,” the group, Columbia University Apartheid Divest, said in its statement revoking the apology.

The group marked the anniversary of the Oct. 7 attack on Israel by distributing a newspaper with a headline that used Hamas’s name for it: “One Year Since Al-Aqsa Flood, Revolution Until Victory,” it read, over a picture of Hamas fighters breaching the security fence to Israel. And the group posted an essay calling the attack a “moral, military and political victory” and quoting Ismail Haniyeh, the assassinated former political leader of Hamas.

“The Palestinian resistance is moving their struggle to a new phase of escalation and it is our duty to meet them there,” the group wrote on Oct. 7 on Telegram. “It is our duty to fight for our freedom!”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/09/nyregion/columbia-pro-palestinian-group-hamas.html

That's pretty damning, honestly.

I hope the Democrats have enough sense not to jump into this.

Democrats:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you are overtly advocating for violent terrorism, this is a risk. He was espousing terroristic activity. It’s literally a law.

Get your facts straight.

He never advocated for violent terrorism.

That is a LIE. Fox News told you that, right? Or Dumpus? Lies LIES LIES.

He's been arrested for exercising his First Amendment rights to speak his mind, his opinion.

DP. It's not nearly as clear cut as you suggest.

Khalil acted as a negotiator and sometimes spokesperson for CUAD (Columbia University Apartheid Divest).

CUAD explicitly and officially issued a statement supporting Hamas and 10/7. As quoted in the Times:

“We support liberation by any means necessary, including armed resistance,” the group, Columbia University Apartheid Divest, said in its statement revoking the apology.

The group marked the anniversary of the Oct. 7 attack on Israel by distributing a newspaper with a headline that used Hamas’s name for it: “One Year Since Al-Aqsa Flood, Revolution Until Victory,” it read, over a picture of Hamas fighters breaching the security fence to Israel. And the group posted an essay calling the attack a “moral, military and political victory” and quoting Ismail Haniyeh, the assassinated former political leader of Hamas.

“The Palestinian resistance is moving their struggle to a new phase of escalation and it is our duty to meet them there,” the group wrote on Oct. 7 on Telegram. “It is our duty to fight for our freedom!”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/09/nyregion/columbia-pro-palestinian-group-hamas.html

That's pretty damning, honestly.

I hope the Democrats have enough sense not to jump into this.

Speech you don’t like is still protected.

They cheered when Elon promised them free speech (before he was part of the government).

[Anonymous]

From a NYT article quoting a retired Colvin Professor

”What’s happening on this campus — or to this campus — is not about protecting Jews,” said Marianne Hirsch, a retired English professor and Holocaust scholar whose parents were Holocaust survivors. “Pro-Palestinian speech and activism does not mean a lack of safety for Jews,” she added”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LOL.

Seriously- this guy was a few steps away from driving a stolen Uber into Times Square.

He is getting off easy. Send him back to wherever and let IDF or one of our drones deal with him.

Left is getting worked up about an agitator looking for a fight - he will get it; just out of US.

This man was a Columbia graduate with an eight months pregnant wife.

This is terrifying and no wonder we have a terror problem at all with the mentality that you just mentioned.

What if you were taken from your home at random thanks to your religion? That used to happen to Jews not even 100 years ago you know. You’re supporting a Zionist Gestapo

[Anonymous]

People never learn from history. Trump’s Ice is authoritarian and fascist

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you are overtly advocating for violent terrorism, this is a risk. He was espousing terroristic activity. It’s literally a law.

Get your facts straight.

He never advocated for violent terrorism.

That is a LIE. Fox News told you that, right? Or Dumpus? Lies LIES LIES.

He's been arrested for exercising his First Amendment rights to speak his mind, his opinion.

DP. It's not nearly as clear cut as you suggest.

Khalil acted as a negotiator and sometimes spokesperson for CUAD (Columbia University Apartheid Divest).

CUAD explicitly and officially issued a statement supporting Hamas and 10/7. As quoted in the Times:

“We support liberation by any means necessary, including armed resistance,” the group, Columbia University Apartheid Divest, said in its statement revoking the apology.

The group marked the anniversary of the Oct. 7 attack on Israel by distributing a newspaper with a headline that used Hamas’s name for it: “One Year Since Al-Aqsa Flood, Revolution Until Victory,” it read, over a picture of Hamas fighters breaching the security fence to Israel. And the group posted an essay calling the attack a “moral, military and political victory” and quoting Ismail Haniyeh, the assassinated former political leader of Hamas.

“The Palestinian resistance is moving their struggle to a new phase of escalation and it is our duty to meet them there,” the group wrote on Oct. 7 on Telegram. “It is our duty to fight for our freedom!”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/09/nyregion/columbia-pro-palestinian-group-hamas.html

That's pretty damning, honestly.

I hope the Democrats have enough sense not to jump into this.

Is it damning? I’m not sure if there is a law permitting deportation just for speech in support of a terrorist group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People never learn from history. Trump’s Ice is authoritarian and fascist

That's why people have to speak up now

The noose only tightens the lingerthis goes on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you are overtly advocating for violent terrorism, this is a risk. He was espousing terroristic activity. It’s literally a law.

Get your facts straight.

He never advocated for violent terrorism.

That is a LIE. Fox News told you that, right? Or Dumpus? Lies LIES LIES.

He's been arrested for exercising his First Amendment rights to speak his mind, his opinion.

DP. It's not nearly as clear cut as you suggest.

Khalil acted as a negotiator and sometimes spokesperson for CUAD (Columbia University Apartheid Divest).

CUAD explicitly and officially issued a statement supporting Hamas and 10/7. As quoted in the Times:

“We support liberation by any means necessary, including armed resistance,” the group, Columbia University Apartheid Divest, said in its statement revoking the apology.

The group marked the anniversary of the Oct. 7 attack on Israel by distributing a newspaper with a headline that used Hamas’s name for it: “One Year Since Al-Aqsa Flood, Revolution Until Victory,” it read, over a picture of Hamas fighters breaching the security fence to Israel. And the group posted an essay calling the attack a “moral, military and political victory” and quoting Ismail Haniyeh, the assassinated former political leader of Hamas.

“The Palestinian resistance is moving their struggle to a new phase of escalation and it is our duty to meet them there,” the group wrote on Oct. 7 on Telegram. “It is our duty to fight for our freedom!”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/09/nyregion/columbia-pro-palestinian-group-hamas.html

That's pretty damning, honestly.

I hope the Democrats have enough sense not to jump into this.

Is it damning? I’m not sure if there is a law permitting deportation just for speech in support of a terrorist group.

There is. Look back 2 pages.

(VII) endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or
espouse terrorist activity or support a terrorist organization;