Rebel forces advancing in Syria …

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Anonymous wrote:This appears to be good news, people are celebrating everywhere and EU countries have stopped processing Syrian asylum requests and are planning return charter flights .
Israel is bombing the country and grabbing more land and has put some small villages under house arrest.
When I see what their official explanation is,
I don’t believe what I hear.
With Israel it is more helpful to look at what their long term goals are.
I think this is dangerous move by them, the people are tired of war and want to get out of military service and on with their lives.
Bibi needs trouble and war.

Israel is reinforcing its borders a bombing Assad’s weapons stores. They’re doing cleanup work. or do you think all of Assad’s chemical weapons should be up for grabs?

What did the Syrian passport and vital records office do to Israel?

Why does Israel want Syria to not have air defense or navy?

Simple. Israel thinks it is entitled to dominate the region. The US establishment blindly supports Israel's rights to take what it wants because "the Jewish state", the "right to exist", the "right to defend itself" or whatever other unique, super special rights they invented that apply to Israel and to Israel alone.

DP
If what you said is correct about the passport office, i can imagine a lot of Mossad members becoming syrian citizen.

Interesting that the vital records office was bombed. That cannot be an accident.
Makes me think that Israel is afraid of some secrets coming to light.

I still don’t understand. Israel is attacking because there is no more Assad and because they don’t who the next power broker will be.
Therefore this is because of something that has not happened but could turn into a threat?

It’s preemptive self defense - a special thing available to Israel only .

+1.

When Russia does this, it's violating the sovereignty of another country and it's an outrage. When Israel does this, it's creating a buffer zone and defending itself which Israel has the right to do. This is why no one takes the American / Zionist government seriously anymore.

Okay Vlad.

They’re actually right on the money, whether a Vlad or not. Only morons at this point are not appalled by our blatant hypocrisy in global affairs.

Only naïfs expect nations to conduct foreign policy with any goal other than self interest.

Once you learn that, you’ll be far better positioned to understand global affairs.

Whatever. I don’t accept your thesis on this subject, or on any subject. Israel’s interests and ours don’t align, no matter how much you try to argue otherwise.

Really?

Is it in our interest for Iran to be weakened?

Is it in our interest to prevent radical Islamist non-state actors from possessing chemical weapons and degrading their projection capabilities?

(Hint: the answer is “yes”)

Right…you were all like yay!! Free Syria!! Down with Bashar! Great news!!!

But when it’s time to enable the new government, you’re all like no, you cannot have air defense. Or a navy. Or passports and vital records. Stay poor and dysfunctional, we like you that way. Live like slaves.

You need chemical weapons and advanced missiles to not live like slaves?

I care about US interests. Probably best for us for Syrian military capabilities to be degraded, at least until we learn more about intentions of the new gov’t.

So bombing chemical weapon stockpiles in civilian area will make Syria friendly to Israel? How many people has Israel killed in Syria? This is Syria’s Oct 7. Syria must invade Israel and destroy its ability to make war. This is why Israel is hated through out the world.

Yeah that sounds like a fab idea

Anyone who can’t admit Israel did the world a huge favor by destroying Syrian military capacity is thoroughly dishonest.

Hmmmm....what are the possible reasons Israel doesn't want Syria to have air defense?

Decisions, decisions.

Heyyyyy "The Splintering of Syria Ushers New Hope for the Region" !! Right on cue:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/with-assads-fall-the-possible-splintering-of-syria-buoys-hopes-for-a-new-middle-east/

Did you actually read the article? Was your vision that Iran would control Syria?

It is not my business to have a vision on who would control Syria, and it isn't Israel's either.

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Syria Post-Assad Vacuum Has Become a Shooting Range for Great Powers said The Wall Street Journal.

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Anonymous wrote:This appears to be good news, people are celebrating everywhere and EU countries have stopped processing Syrian asylum requests and are planning return charter flights .
Israel is bombing the country and grabbing more land and has put some small villages under house arrest.
When I see what their official explanation is,
I don’t believe what I hear.
With Israel it is more helpful to look at what their long term goals are.
I think this is dangerous move by them, the people are tired of war and want to get out of military service and on with their lives.
Bibi needs trouble and war.

Israel is reinforcing its borders a bombing Assad’s weapons stores. They’re doing cleanup work. or do you think all of Assad’s chemical weapons should be up for grabs?

What did the Syrian passport and vital records office do to Israel?

Why does Israel want Syria to not have air defense or navy?

Simple. Israel thinks it is entitled to dominate the region. The US establishment blindly supports Israel's rights to take what it wants because "the Jewish state", the "right to exist", the "right to defend itself" or whatever other unique, super special rights they invented that apply to Israel and to Israel alone.

DP
If what you said is correct about the passport office, i can imagine a lot of Mossad members becoming syrian citizen.

Interesting that the vital records office was bombed. That cannot be an accident.
Makes me think that Israel is afraid of some secrets coming to light.

I still don’t understand. Israel is attacking because there is no more Assad and because they don’t who the next power broker will be.
Therefore this is because of something that has not happened but could turn into a threat?

It’s preemptive self defense - a special thing available to Israel only .

+1.

When Russia does this, it's violating the sovereignty of another country and it's an outrage. When Israel does this, it's creating a buffer zone and defending itself which Israel has the right to do. This is why no one takes the American / Zionist government seriously anymore.

Okay Vlad.

They’re actually right on the money, whether a Vlad or not. Only morons at this point are not appalled by our blatant hypocrisy in global affairs.

Only naïfs expect nations to conduct foreign policy with any goal other than self interest.

Once you learn that, you’ll be far better positioned to understand global affairs.

Whatever. I don’t accept your thesis on this subject, or on any subject. Israel’s interests and ours don’t align, no matter how much you try to argue otherwise.

Really?

Is it in our interest for Iran to be weakened?

Is it in our interest to prevent radical Islamist non-state actors from possessing chemical weapons and degrading their projection capabilities?

(Hint: the answer is “yes”)

Right…you were all like yay!! Free Syria!! Down with Bashar! Great news!!!

But when it’s time to enable the new government, you’re all like no, you cannot have air defense. Or a navy. Or passports and vital records. Stay poor and dysfunctional, we like you that way. Live like slaves.

You need chemical weapons and advanced missiles to not live like slaves?

I care about US interests. Probably best for us for Syrian military capabilities to be degraded, at least until we learn more about intentions of the new gov’t.

So bombing chemical weapon stockpiles in civilian area will make Syria friendly to Israel? How many people has Israel killed in Syria? This is Syria’s Oct 7. Syria must invade Israel and destroy its ability to make war. This is why Israel is hated through out the world.

Yeah that sounds like a fab idea

Anyone who can’t admit Israel did the world a huge favor by destroying Syrian military capacity is thoroughly dishonest.

Hmmmm....what are the possible reasons Israel doesn't want Syria to have air defense?

Decisions, decisions.

Heyyyyy "The Splintering of Syria Ushers New Hope for the Region" !! Right on cue:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/with-assads-fall-the-possible-splintering-of-syria-buoys-hopes-for-a-new-middle-east/

Did you actually read the article? Was your vision that Iran would control Syria?

It is not my business to have a vision on who would control Syria, and it isn't Israel's either.

They are next door neighbors with a tumultuous history, to put it mildly. It's more their business than yours.

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Anonymous wrote:This appears to be good news, people are celebrating everywhere and EU countries have stopped processing Syrian asylum requests and are planning return charter flights .
Israel is bombing the country and grabbing more land and has put some small villages under house arrest.
When I see what their official explanation is,
I don’t believe what I hear.
With Israel it is more helpful to look at what their long term goals are.
I think this is dangerous move by them, the people are tired of war and want to get out of military service and on with their lives.
Bibi needs trouble and war.

Israel is reinforcing its borders a bombing Assad’s weapons stores. They’re doing cleanup work. or do you think all of Assad’s chemical weapons should be up for grabs?

What did the Syrian passport and vital records office do to Israel?

Why does Israel want Syria to not have air defense or navy?

Simple. Israel thinks it is entitled to dominate the region. The US establishment blindly supports Israel's rights to take what it wants because "the Jewish state", the "right to exist", the "right to defend itself" or whatever other unique, super special rights they invented that apply to Israel and to Israel alone.

DP
If what you said is correct about the passport office, i can imagine a lot of Mossad members becoming syrian citizen.

Interesting that the vital records office was bombed. That cannot be an accident.
Makes me think that Israel is afraid of some secrets coming to light.

I still don’t understand. Israel is attacking because there is no more Assad and because they don’t who the next power broker will be.
Therefore this is because of something that has not happened but could turn into a threat?

It’s preemptive self defense - a special thing available to Israel only .

+1.

When Russia does this, it's violating the sovereignty of another country and it's an outrage. When Israel does this, it's creating a buffer zone and defending itself which Israel has the right to do. This is why no one takes the American / Zionist government seriously anymore.

Okay Vlad.

They’re actually right on the money, whether a Vlad or not. Only morons at this point are not appalled by our blatant hypocrisy in global affairs.

Only naïfs expect nations to conduct foreign policy with any goal other than self interest.

Once you learn that, you’ll be far better positioned to understand global affairs.

Whatever. I don’t accept your thesis on this subject, or on any subject. Israel’s interests and ours don’t align, no matter how much you try to argue otherwise.

Really?

Is it in our interest for Iran to be weakened?

Is it in our interest to prevent radical Islamist non-state actors from possessing chemical weapons and degrading their projection capabilities?

(Hint: the answer is “yes”)

Right…you were all like yay!! Free Syria!! Down with Bashar! Great news!!!

But when it’s time to enable the new government, you’re all like no, you cannot have air defense. Or a navy. Or passports and vital records. Stay poor and dysfunctional, we like you that way. Live like slaves.

You need chemical weapons and advanced missiles to not live like slaves?

I care about US interests. Probably best for us for Syrian military capabilities to be degraded, at least until we learn more about intentions of the new gov’t.

So bombing chemical weapon stockpiles in civilian area will make Syria friendly to Israel? How many people has Israel killed in Syria? This is Syria’s Oct 7. Syria must invade Israel and destroy its ability to make war. This is why Israel is hated through out the world.

Yeah that sounds like a fab idea

Anyone who can’t admit Israel did the world a huge favor by destroying Syrian military capacity is thoroughly dishonest.

Hmmmm....what are the possible reasons Israel doesn't want Syria to have air defense?

Decisions, decisions.

Heyyyyy "The Splintering of Syria Ushers New Hope for the Region" !! Right on cue:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/with-assads-fall-the-possible-splintering-of-syria-buoys-hopes-for-a-new-middle-east/

Did you actually read the article? Was your vision that Iran would control Syria?

It is not my business to have a vision on who would control Syria, and it isn't Israel's either.

They are next door neighbors with a tumultuous history, to put it mildly. It's more their business than yours.

And that may be a good enough case for bolstering internal Israeli military defenses or border fortifications. Preemptively attacking a neighboring country to make it effectively demilitarize belies more than defensive intent - it's the naked grab for military hegemony. Considering the history of Israeli aggression against Syrian land and targets, it's Israel that has been a consistent threat to its neighbors. Not the other way round.

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Syrian US paid "Al Qaeda rebels" and ISIS were fighting Hezbollah and each other

Israel is on "enemy of my enemy" is my friend timing, but this has consequences.

Trump will inherit this mess and will have to calm down this civil war and the Ukrainian war if they dont asassinate him. The deep state is dead set on a new cold War/WW3 against China, Iran, Russia.

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Anonymous wrote:This appears to be good news, people are celebrating everywhere and EU countries have stopped processing Syrian asylum requests and are planning return charter flights .
Israel is bombing the country and grabbing more land and has put some small villages under house arrest.
When I see what their official explanation is,
I don’t believe what I hear.
With Israel it is more helpful to look at what their long term goals are.
I think this is dangerous move by them, the people are tired of war and want to get out of military service and on with their lives.
Bibi needs trouble and war.

Israel is reinforcing its borders a bombing Assad’s weapons stores. They’re doing cleanup work. or do you think all of Assad’s chemical weapons should be up for grabs?

What did the Syrian passport and vital records office do to Israel?

Why does Israel want Syria to not have air defense or navy?

Simple. Israel thinks it is entitled to dominate the region. The US establishment blindly supports Israel's rights to take what it wants because "the Jewish state", the "right to exist", the "right to defend itself" or whatever other unique, super special rights they invented that apply to Israel and to Israel alone.

DP
If what you said is correct about the passport office, i can imagine a lot of Mossad members becoming syrian citizen.

Interesting that the vital records office was bombed. That cannot be an accident.
Makes me think that Israel is afraid of some secrets coming to light.

I still don’t understand. Israel is attacking because there is no more Assad and because they don’t who the next power broker will be.
Therefore this is because of something that has not happened but could turn into a threat?

It’s preemptive self defense - a special thing available to Israel only .

+1.

When Russia does this, it's violating the sovereignty of another country and it's an outrage. When Israel does this, it's creating a buffer zone and defending itself which Israel has the right to do. This is why no one takes the American / Zionist government seriously anymore.

Okay Vlad.

They’re actually right on the money, whether a Vlad or not. Only morons at this point are not appalled by our blatant hypocrisy in global affairs.

Only naïfs expect nations to conduct foreign policy with any goal other than self interest.

Once you learn that, you’ll be far better positioned to understand global affairs.

Whatever. I don’t accept your thesis on this subject, or on any subject. Israel’s interests and ours don’t align, no matter how much you try to argue otherwise.

Really?

Is it in our interest for Iran to be weakened?

Is it in our interest to prevent radical Islamist non-state actors from possessing chemical weapons and degrading their projection capabilities?

(Hint: the answer is “yes”)

Right…you were all like yay!! Free Syria!! Down with Bashar! Great news!!!

But when it’s time to enable the new government, you’re all like no, you cannot have air defense. Or a navy. Or passports and vital records. Stay poor and dysfunctional, we like you that way. Live like slaves.

You need chemical weapons and advanced missiles to not live like slaves?

I care about US interests. Probably best for us for Syrian military capabilities to be degraded, at least until we learn more about intentions of the new gov’t.

So bombing chemical weapon stockpiles in civilian area will make Syria friendly to Israel? How many people has Israel killed in Syria? This is Syria’s Oct 7. Syria must invade Israel and destroy its ability to make war. This is why Israel is hated through out the world.

Who said anything about Israel?

I'm talking about US interests.

As Americans (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here), which of the following options would you prefer?

(a) a fractured, failed state run by a group of anti-American militias WITH chemical weapons and one of the largest ballistic missile arsenals in the region

OR

(b) a fractured, failed state run by a group of anti-American militias WITHOUT chemical weapons or ballistic missiles

(Hint: the answer does NOT start with the same letter as the small, scaly animal that often ends up as roadkill on roads in TX).

To add:

What would Israel prefer for a piece of land it wants to invade and attack at will?

(a) air defense

(b) no air defense

As an American*, who would you prefer to control territory--Israel or [random jihadist group of the month]?

So you admit the end goal is for Israel to annex and take over Syria?

The idea was to make it a "failed state ran by Jihadists" so they can take it over. Saddam Hussein was right when he said Israel wants the entire Levant.

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Anonymous wrote:This appears to be good news, people are celebrating everywhere and EU countries have stopped processing Syrian asylum requests and are planning return charter flights .
Israel is bombing the country and grabbing more land and has put some small villages under house arrest.
When I see what their official explanation is,
I don’t believe what I hear.
With Israel it is more helpful to look at what their long term goals are.
I think this is dangerous move by them, the people are tired of war and want to get out of military service and on with their lives.
Bibi needs trouble and war.

Israel is reinforcing its borders a bombing Assad’s weapons stores. They’re doing cleanup work. or do you think all of Assad’s chemical weapons should be up for grabs?

What did the Syrian passport and vital records office do to Israel?

Why does Israel want Syria to not have air defense or navy?

Simple. Israel thinks it is entitled to dominate the region. The US establishment blindly supports Israel's rights to take what it wants because "the Jewish state", the "right to exist", the "right to defend itself" or whatever other unique, super special rights they invented that apply to Israel and to Israel alone.

DP
If what you said is correct about the passport office, i can imagine a lot of Mossad members becoming syrian citizen.

Interesting that the vital records office was bombed. That cannot be an accident.
Makes me think that Israel is afraid of some secrets coming to light.

I still don’t understand. Israel is attacking because there is no more Assad and because they don’t who the next power broker will be.
Therefore this is because of something that has not happened but could turn into a threat?

It’s preemptive self defense - a special thing available to Israel only .

+1.

When Russia does this, it's violating the sovereignty of another country and it's an outrage. When Israel does this, it's creating a buffer zone and defending itself which Israel has the right to do. This is why no one takes the American / Zionist government seriously anymore.

Okay Vlad.

They’re actually right on the money, whether a Vlad or not. Only morons at this point are not appalled by our blatant hypocrisy in global affairs.

Only naïfs expect nations to conduct foreign policy with any goal other than self interest.

Once you learn that, you’ll be far better positioned to understand global affairs.

Whatever. I don’t accept your thesis on this subject, or on any subject. Israel’s interests and ours don’t align, no matter how much you try to argue otherwise.

Really?

Is it in our interest for Iran to be weakened?

Is it in our interest to prevent radical Islamist non-state actors from possessing chemical weapons and degrading their projection capabilities?

(Hint: the answer is “yes”)

Right…you were all like yay!! Free Syria!! Down with Bashar! Great news!!!

But when it’s time to enable the new government, you’re all like no, you cannot have air defense. Or a navy. Or passports and vital records. Stay poor and dysfunctional, we like you that way. Live like slaves.

You need chemical weapons and advanced missiles to not live like slaves?

I care about US interests. Probably best for us for Syrian military capabilities to be degraded, at least until we learn more about intentions of the new gov’t.

So bombing chemical weapon stockpiles in civilian area will make Syria friendly to Israel? How many people has Israel killed in Syria? This is Syria’s Oct 7. Syria must invade Israel and destroy its ability to make war. This is why Israel is hated through out the world.

Who said anything about Israel?

I'm talking about US interests.

As Americans (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here), which of the following options would you prefer?

(a) a fractured, failed state run by a group of anti-American militias WITH chemical weapons and one of the largest ballistic missile arsenals in the region

OR

(b) a fractured, failed state run by a group of anti-American militias WITHOUT chemical weapons or ballistic missiles

(Hint: the answer does NOT start with the same letter as the small, scaly animal that often ends up as roadkill on roads in TX).

To add:

What would Israel prefer for a piece of land it wants to invade and attack at will?

(a) air defense

(b) no air defense

As an American*, who would you prefer to control territory--Israel or [random jihadist group of the month]?

So you admit the end goal is for Israel to annex and take over Syria?

The idea was to make it a "failed state ran by Jihadists" so they can take it over. Saddam Hussein was right when he said Israel wants the entire Levant.

My end goal is simply to improve the security and further the interests of the United States.

I have no idea what Israel or the US govt's end goals are.

In this context, I certainly won't complain about a US ally gaining more control/power at the expense of Jihadists. Seems like a win for the US to me.

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Anonymous wrote:This appears to be good news, people are celebrating everywhere and EU countries have stopped processing Syrian asylum requests and are planning return charter flights .
Israel is bombing the country and grabbing more land and has put some small villages under house arrest.
When I see what their official explanation is,
I don’t believe what I hear.
With Israel it is more helpful to look at what their long term goals are.
I think this is dangerous move by them, the people are tired of war and want to get out of military service and on with their lives.
Bibi needs trouble and war.

Israel is reinforcing its borders a bombing Assad’s weapons stores. They’re doing cleanup work. or do you think all of Assad’s chemical weapons should be up for grabs?

What did the Syrian passport and vital records office do to Israel?

Why does Israel want Syria to not have air defense or navy?

Simple. Israel thinks it is entitled to dominate the region. The US establishment blindly supports Israel's rights to take what it wants because "the Jewish state", the "right to exist", the "right to defend itself" or whatever other unique, super special rights they invented that apply to Israel and to Israel alone.

DP
If what you said is correct about the passport office, i can imagine a lot of Mossad members becoming syrian citizen.

Interesting that the vital records office was bombed. That cannot be an accident.
Makes me think that Israel is afraid of some secrets coming to light.

I still don’t understand. Israel is attacking because there is no more Assad and because they don’t who the next power broker will be.
Therefore this is because of something that has not happened but could turn into a threat?

It’s preemptive self defense - a special thing available to Israel only .

+1.

When Russia does this, it's violating the sovereignty of another country and it's an outrage. When Israel does this, it's creating a buffer zone and defending itself which Israel has the right to do. This is why no one takes the American / Zionist government seriously anymore.

Okay Vlad.

They’re actually right on the money, whether a Vlad or not. Only morons at this point are not appalled by our blatant hypocrisy in global affairs.

Only naïfs expect nations to conduct foreign policy with any goal other than self interest.

Once you learn that, you’ll be far better positioned to understand global affairs.

Whatever. I don’t accept your thesis on this subject, or on any subject. Israel’s interests and ours don’t align, no matter how much you try to argue otherwise.

Really?

Is it in our interest for Iran to be weakened?

Is it in our interest to prevent radical Islamist non-state actors from possessing chemical weapons and degrading their projection capabilities?

(Hint: the answer is “yes”)

Right…you were all like yay!! Free Syria!! Down with Bashar! Great news!!!

But when it’s time to enable the new government, you’re all like no, you cannot have air defense. Or a navy. Or passports and vital records. Stay poor and dysfunctional, we like you that way. Live like slaves.

You need chemical weapons and advanced missiles to not live like slaves?

I care about US interests. Probably best for us for Syrian military capabilities to be degraded, at least until we learn more about intentions of the new gov’t.

So bombing chemical weapon stockpiles in civilian area will make Syria friendly to Israel? How many people has Israel killed in Syria? This is Syria’s Oct 7. Syria must invade Israel and destroy its ability to make war. This is why Israel is hated through out the world.

Yeah that sounds like a fab idea

Anyone who can’t admit Israel did the world a huge favor by destroying Syrian military capacity is thoroughly dishonest.

Hmmmm....what are the possible reasons Israel doesn't want Syria to have air defense?

Decisions, decisions.

Heyyyyy "The Splintering of Syria Ushers New Hope for the Region" !! Right on cue:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/with-assads-fall-the-possible-splintering-of-syria-buoys-hopes-for-a-new-middle-east/

Did you actually read the article? Was your vision that Iran would control Syria?

It is not my business to have a vision on who would control Syria, and it isn't Israel's either.

They are next door neighbors with a tumultuous history, to put it mildly. It's more their business than yours.

And that may be a good enough case for bolstering internal Israeli military defenses or border fortifications. Preemptively attacking a neighboring country to make it effectively demilitarize belies more than defensive intent - it's the naked grab for military hegemony. Considering the history of Israeli aggression against Syrian land and targets, it's Israel that has been a consistent threat to its neighbors. Not the other way round.

Well I guess Israel disagrees with you - and it sounds like you do think it's your business. How interesting the only time you think it's your business is when you get to jump on Israel for not cowering and disappearing the way you wish they would.

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Anonymous wrote:This appears to be good news, people are celebrating everywhere and EU countries have stopped processing Syrian asylum requests and are planning return charter flights .
Israel is bombing the country and grabbing more land and has put some small villages under house arrest.
When I see what their official explanation is,
I don’t believe what I hear.
With Israel it is more helpful to look at what their long term goals are.
I think this is dangerous move by them, the people are tired of war and want to get out of military service and on with their lives.
Bibi needs trouble and war.

Israel is reinforcing its borders a bombing Assad’s weapons stores. They’re doing cleanup work. or do you think all of Assad’s chemical weapons should be up for grabs?

What did the Syrian passport and vital records office do to Israel?

Why does Israel want Syria to not have air defense or navy?

Simple. Israel thinks it is entitled to dominate the region. The US establishment blindly supports Israel's rights to take what it wants because "the Jewish state", the "right to exist", the "right to defend itself" or whatever other unique, super special rights they invented that apply to Israel and to Israel alone.

DP
If what you said is correct about the passport office, i can imagine a lot of Mossad members becoming syrian citizen.

Interesting that the vital records office was bombed. That cannot be an accident.
Makes me think that Israel is afraid of some secrets coming to light.

I still don’t understand. Israel is attacking because there is no more Assad and because they don’t who the next power broker will be.
Therefore this is because of something that has not happened but could turn into a threat?

It’s preemptive self defense - a special thing available to Israel only .

+1.

When Russia does this, it's violating the sovereignty of another country and it's an outrage. When Israel does this, it's creating a buffer zone and defending itself which Israel has the right to do. This is why no one takes the American / Zionist government seriously anymore.

Okay Vlad.

They’re actually right on the money, whether a Vlad or not. Only morons at this point are not appalled by our blatant hypocrisy in global affairs.

Only naïfs expect nations to conduct foreign policy with any goal other than self interest.

Once you learn that, you’ll be far better positioned to understand global affairs.

Whatever. I don’t accept your thesis on this subject, or on any subject. Israel’s interests and ours don’t align, no matter how much you try to argue otherwise.

Really?

Is it in our interest for Iran to be weakened?

Is it in our interest to prevent radical Islamist non-state actors from possessing chemical weapons and degrading their projection capabilities?

(Hint: the answer is “yes”)

Right…you were all like yay!! Free Syria!! Down with Bashar! Great news!!!

But when it’s time to enable the new government, you’re all like no, you cannot have air defense. Or a navy. Or passports and vital records. Stay poor and dysfunctional, we like you that way. Live like slaves.

You need chemical weapons and advanced missiles to not live like slaves?

I care about US interests. Probably best for us for Syrian military capabilities to be degraded, at least until we learn more about intentions of the new gov’t.

So bombing chemical weapon stockpiles in civilian area will make Syria friendly to Israel? How many people has Israel killed in Syria? This is Syria’s Oct 7. Syria must invade Israel and destroy its ability to make war. This is why Israel is hated through out the world.

Yeah that sounds like a fab idea

Anyone who can’t admit Israel did the world a huge favor by destroying Syrian military capacity is thoroughly dishonest.

Hmmmm....what are the possible reasons Israel doesn't want Syria to have air defense?

Decisions, decisions.

Heyyyyy "The Splintering of Syria Ushers New Hope for the Region" !! Right on cue:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/with-assads-fall-the-possible-splintering-of-syria-buoys-hopes-for-a-new-middle-east/

Did you actually read the article? Was your vision that Iran would control Syria?

It is not my business to have a vision on who would control Syria, and it isn't Israel's either.

They are next door neighbors with a tumultuous history, to put it mildly. It's more their business than yours.

And that may be a good enough case for bolstering internal Israeli military defenses or border fortifications. Preemptively attacking a neighboring country to make it effectively demilitarize belies more than defensive intent - it's the naked grab for military hegemony. Considering the history of Israeli aggression against Syrian land and targets, it's Israel that has been a consistent threat to its neighbors. Not the other way round.

Well I guess Israel disagrees with you - and it sounds like you do think it's your business. How interesting the only time you think it's your business is when you get to jump on Israel for not cowering and disappearing the way you wish they would.

DP

Since you’re accusing others of picking on Israel, shouldn’t you share why you’re defending Israel’s policies and actions?

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It's crazy how America is supporting and celebrating an anti American, Al Qaeda spin off group to become the government in Syria.

We go against our own interests to serve Israel's.

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Trump is on the right track based on his recent tweets, and is opposed to this coup and still on his America first wave, but would it really matter? The alphabet agencies are going to take actions in Syria without presidential sign off just like they always have. Does anyone think they are asking Biden for permission?

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Anonymous wrote:This appears to be good news, people are celebrating everywhere and EU countries have stopped processing Syrian asylum requests and are planning return charter flights .
Israel is bombing the country and grabbing more land and has put some small villages under house arrest.
When I see what their official explanation is,
I don’t believe what I hear.
With Israel it is more helpful to look at what their long term goals are.
I think this is dangerous move by them, the people are tired of war and want to get out of military service and on with their lives.
Bibi needs trouble and war.

Israel is reinforcing its borders a bombing Assad’s weapons stores. They’re doing cleanup work. or do you think all of Assad’s chemical weapons should be up for grabs?

What did the Syrian passport and vital records office do to Israel?

Why does Israel want Syria to not have air defense or navy?

Simple. Israel thinks it is entitled to dominate the region. The US establishment blindly supports Israel's rights to take what it wants because "the Jewish state", the "right to exist", the "right to defend itself" or whatever other unique, super special rights they invented that apply to Israel and to Israel alone.

DP
If what you said is correct about the passport office, i can imagine a lot of Mossad members becoming syrian citizen.

Interesting that the vital records office was bombed. That cannot be an accident.
Makes me think that Israel is afraid of some secrets coming to light.

I still don’t understand. Israel is attacking because there is no more Assad and because they don’t who the next power broker will be.
Therefore this is because of something that has not happened but could turn into a threat?

It’s preemptive self defense - a special thing available to Israel only .

+1.

When Russia does this, it's violating the sovereignty of another country and it's an outrage. When Israel does this, it's creating a buffer zone and defending itself which Israel has the right to do. This is why no one takes the American / Zionist government seriously anymore.

Okay Vlad.

They’re actually right on the money, whether a Vlad or not. Only morons at this point are not appalled by our blatant hypocrisy in global affairs.

Only naïfs expect nations to conduct foreign policy with any goal other than self interest.

Once you learn that, you’ll be far better positioned to understand global affairs.

Whatever. I don’t accept your thesis on this subject, or on any subject. Israel’s interests and ours don’t align, no matter how much you try to argue otherwise.

Really?

Is it in our interest for Iran to be weakened?

Is it in our interest to prevent radical Islamist non-state actors from possessing chemical weapons and degrading their projection capabilities?

(Hint: the answer is “yes”)

Right…you were all like yay!! Free Syria!! Down with Bashar! Great news!!!

But when it’s time to enable the new government, you’re all like no, you cannot have air defense. Or a navy. Or passports and vital records. Stay poor and dysfunctional, we like you that way. Live like slaves.

You need chemical weapons and advanced missiles to not live like slaves?

I care about US interests. Probably best for us for Syrian military capabilities to be degraded, at least until we learn more about intentions of the new gov’t.

So bombing chemical weapon stockpiles in civilian area will make Syria friendly to Israel? How many people has Israel killed in Syria? This is Syria’s Oct 7. Syria must invade Israel and destroy its ability to make war. This is why Israel is hated through out the world.

Who said anything about Israel?

I'm talking about US interests.

As Americans (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here), which of the following options would you prefer?

(a) a fractured, failed state run by a group of anti-American militias WITH chemical weapons and one of the largest ballistic missile arsenals in the region

OR

(b) a fractured, failed state run by a group of anti-American militias WITHOUT chemical weapons or ballistic missiles

(Hint: the answer does NOT start with the same letter as the small, scaly animal that often ends up as roadkill on roads in TX).

To add:

What would Israel prefer for a piece of land it wants to invade and attack at will?

(a) air defense

(b) no air defense

As an American*, who would you prefer to control territory--Israel or [random jihadist group of the month]?

So you admit the end goal is for Israel to annex and take over Syria?

The idea was to make it a "failed state ran by Jihadists" so they can take it over. Saddam Hussein was right when he said Israel wants the entire Levant.

My end goal is simply to improve the security and further the interests of the United States.

I have no idea what Israel or the US govt's end goals are.

In this context, I certainly won't complain about a US ally gaining more control/power at the expense of Jihadists. Seems like a win for the US to me.

So you want Israel to annex Syria despite Israel supporting Jihadists in Syria who at one point were fighting against the US, Russia, and Syria?

You should realize Israel is not an ally to the US, but a hostile country just like you think of any other Middle Eastern country. I'd argue they are the most hostile in fact.

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Anonymous wrote:This appears to be good news, people are celebrating everywhere and EU countries have stopped processing Syrian asylum requests and are planning return charter flights .
Israel is bombing the country and grabbing more land and has put some small villages under house arrest.
When I see what their official explanation is,
I don’t believe what I hear.
With Israel it is more helpful to look at what their long term goals are.
I think this is dangerous move by them, the people are tired of war and want to get out of military service and on with their lives.
Bibi needs trouble and war.

Israel is reinforcing its borders a bombing Assad’s weapons stores. They’re doing cleanup work. or do you think all of Assad’s chemical weapons should be up for grabs?

What did the Syrian passport and vital records office do to Israel?

Why does Israel want Syria to not have air defense or navy?

Simple. Israel thinks it is entitled to dominate the region. The US establishment blindly supports Israel's rights to take what it wants because "the Jewish state", the "right to exist", the "right to defend itself" or whatever other unique, super special rights they invented that apply to Israel and to Israel alone.

DP
If what you said is correct about the passport office, i can imagine a lot of Mossad members becoming syrian citizen.

Interesting that the vital records office was bombed. That cannot be an accident.
Makes me think that Israel is afraid of some secrets coming to light.

I still don’t understand. Israel is attacking because there is no more Assad and because they don’t who the next power broker will be.
Therefore this is because of something that has not happened but could turn into a threat?

It’s preemptive self defense - a special thing available to Israel only .

+1.

When Russia does this, it's violating the sovereignty of another country and it's an outrage. When Israel does this, it's creating a buffer zone and defending itself which Israel has the right to do. This is why no one takes the American / Zionist government seriously anymore.

Okay Vlad.

They’re actually right on the money, whether a Vlad or not. Only morons at this point are not appalled by our blatant hypocrisy in global affairs.

Only naïfs expect nations to conduct foreign policy with any goal other than self interest.

Once you learn that, you’ll be far better positioned to understand global affairs.

Whatever. I don’t accept your thesis on this subject, or on any subject. Israel’s interests and ours don’t align, no matter how much you try to argue otherwise.

Really?

Is it in our interest for Iran to be weakened?

Is it in our interest to prevent radical Islamist non-state actors from possessing chemical weapons and degrading their projection capabilities?

(Hint: the answer is “yes”)

Right…you were all like yay!! Free Syria!! Down with Bashar! Great news!!!

But when it’s time to enable the new government, you’re all like no, you cannot have air defense. Or a navy. Or passports and vital records. Stay poor and dysfunctional, we like you that way. Live like slaves.

You need chemical weapons and advanced missiles to not live like slaves?

I care about US interests. Probably best for us for Syrian military capabilities to be degraded, at least until we learn more about intentions of the new gov’t.

So bombing chemical weapon stockpiles in civilian area will make Syria friendly to Israel? How many people has Israel killed in Syria? This is Syria’s Oct 7. Syria must invade Israel and destroy its ability to make war. This is why Israel is hated through out the world.

Yeah that sounds like a fab idea

Anyone who can’t admit Israel did the world a huge favor by destroying Syrian military capacity is thoroughly dishonest.

Hmmmm....what are the possible reasons Israel doesn't want Syria to have air defense?

Decisions, decisions.

Heyyyyy "The Splintering of Syria Ushers New Hope for the Region" !! Right on cue:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/with-assads-fall-the-possible-splintering-of-syria-buoys-hopes-for-a-new-middle-east/

Did you actually read the article? Was your vision that Iran would control Syria?

It is not my business to have a vision on who would control Syria, and it isn't Israel's either.

They are next door neighbors with a tumultuous history, to put it mildly. It's more their business than yours.

And that may be a good enough case for bolstering internal Israeli military defenses or border fortifications. Preemptively attacking a neighboring country to make it effectively demilitarize belies more than defensive intent - it's the naked grab for military hegemony. Considering the history of Israeli aggression against Syrian land and targets, it's Israel that has been a consistent threat to its neighbors. Not the other way round.

Well I guess Israel disagrees with you - and it sounds like you do think it's your business. How interesting the only time you think it's your business is when you get to jump on Israel for not cowering and disappearing the way you wish they would.

lol of course it disagrees with me - judging by the maps it is passing around, it would like to help itself to chunks of Iraq and Saudi Arabia as well. Hey wouldn't that serve US interests? I mean who the hell do these sand monkeys think they are? Ruling themselves and their countries? The nerve!

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Anonymous wrote:This appears to be good news, people are celebrating everywhere and EU countries have stopped processing Syrian asylum requests and are planning return charter flights .
Israel is bombing the country and grabbing more land and has put some small villages under house arrest.
When I see what their official explanation is,
I don’t believe what I hear.
With Israel it is more helpful to look at what their long term goals are.
I think this is dangerous move by them, the people are tired of war and want to get out of military service and on with their lives.
Bibi needs trouble and war.

Israel is reinforcing its borders a bombing Assad’s weapons stores. They’re doing cleanup work. or do you think all of Assad’s chemical weapons should be up for grabs?

What did the Syrian passport and vital records office do to Israel?

Why does Israel want Syria to not have air defense or navy?

Simple. Israel thinks it is entitled to dominate the region. The US establishment blindly supports Israel's rights to take what it wants because "the Jewish state", the "right to exist", the "right to defend itself" or whatever other unique, super special rights they invented that apply to Israel and to Israel alone.

DP
If what you said is correct about the passport office, i can imagine a lot of Mossad members becoming syrian citizen.

Interesting that the vital records office was bombed. That cannot be an accident.
Makes me think that Israel is afraid of some secrets coming to light.

I still don’t understand. Israel is attacking because there is no more Assad and because they don’t who the next power broker will be.
Therefore this is because of something that has not happened but could turn into a threat?

It’s preemptive self defense - a special thing available to Israel only .

+1.

When Russia does this, it's violating the sovereignty of another country and it's an outrage. When Israel does this, it's creating a buffer zone and defending itself which Israel has the right to do. This is why no one takes the American / Zionist government seriously anymore.

Okay Vlad.

They’re actually right on the money, whether a Vlad or not. Only morons at this point are not appalled by our blatant hypocrisy in global affairs.

Only naïfs expect nations to conduct foreign policy with any goal other than self interest.

Once you learn that, you’ll be far better positioned to understand global affairs.

Whatever. I don’t accept your thesis on this subject, or on any subject. Israel’s interests and ours don’t align, no matter how much you try to argue otherwise.

Really?

Is it in our interest for Iran to be weakened?

Is it in our interest to prevent radical Islamist non-state actors from possessing chemical weapons and degrading their projection capabilities?

(Hint: the answer is “yes”)

Right…you were all like yay!! Free Syria!! Down with Bashar! Great news!!!

But when it’s time to enable the new government, you’re all like no, you cannot have air defense. Or a navy. Or passports and vital records. Stay poor and dysfunctional, we like you that way. Live like slaves.

You need chemical weapons and advanced missiles to not live like slaves?

I care about US interests. Probably best for us for Syrian military capabilities to be degraded, at least until we learn more about intentions of the new gov’t.

So bombing chemical weapon stockpiles in civilian area will make Syria friendly to Israel? How many people has Israel killed in Syria? This is Syria’s Oct 7. Syria must invade Israel and destroy its ability to make war. This is why Israel is hated through out the world.

Yeah that sounds like a fab idea

Anyone who can’t admit Israel did the world a huge favor by destroying Syrian military capacity is thoroughly dishonest.

Hmmmm....what are the possible reasons Israel doesn't want Syria to have air defense?

Decisions, decisions.

Heyyyyy "The Splintering of Syria Ushers New Hope for the Region" !! Right on cue:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/with-assads-fall-the-possible-splintering-of-syria-buoys-hopes-for-a-new-middle-east/

I mean Hamas owns this, so … your side made a massive tactical miscalculation.

Curiously, Israel has not eliminated Hamas nor did they ever plan to. Netanyahu and Cheney and Rumsfeld were talking about Syria in 2003. What's going on in Syria was long in the making, and had nothing to do with 10/7. 10/7 just helped Netanyahu avoid jail and bolster Israeli nationalism so that a crazy crackpot plan like a minority group taking over and annexign the entire Levant can occur. Israel is going to overextend itself and the United States, and find itself in a jam with Netanyahu. Hamas sees Israel is on a suicide mission thanks to greed and hubris. They cannot fight and take over the Gaza Strip and West Bank let alone Syria and Lebanon and Iran, and they are highly unpopular among Gen Z Americans so who is going to fight this war for them? Our intelligence agencies and their intelligence agencies best days are behind them

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how America is supporting and celebrating an anti American, Al Qaeda spin off group to become the government in Syria.

We go against our own interests to serve Israel's.

Not really. It's in our interest to see the Islamic Republic of Iran and Russia diminished in the region.

Which they are.

At the present moment - and this could change very quickly - the new leadership in Syria seems fairly sane. And if the baddies like the hardcore Islamic fanatics come to power, they won't have the weapons - from chemical weapons to artillery - to be a nuisance to anyone else - thanks to Israel and Turkey.

It's all good at the moment for the US.