Capitol tryouts

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Anonymous wrote:Pride A is a better option than Capital B team. College coaches don’t want B level players.

That’s so not true. Capital B has better connections and better recruiting staff.

Fwiw, with the exception of 1 tournament his summer (where they were in the same bracket), the Pride 25s played in higher brackets than Capital Orange.

This is not true. Pride and Capital only play two of the same tournaments. One they played in the same bracket and the other pride played one bracket above and didn't fair well (the were originally slotted to play in the same bracket as orange and the two teams were supposed to play again, but katie moved their bracket so they didn't have to risk loosing to a B team). Orange plays in two invitational tournaments where there is heavy recruiting and Pride is not invited to attend so there is no comparing which level brackets they played in in those two tournaments. Finally, organge plays in a 5th tournament to maximize recruiting opportunity and pride does not. One of the tournaments pride plays in that orange does not attracts only B level college coaches.

Moving up a bracket because Pride was afraid to play a team they've already beaten is such a dumb argument I can't believe you aren't embarrassed you said it. I'll stand down if you can provide proof that Katie actually moved to not risk losing to a Capital Orange team. But you can't. Also the game was never on the Pride schedule. I think some Orange parent made this up for message board fodder. Also, which of the two tournaments that Pride played that Cap was absent was second class? Summer Genesis or MidAtlantic Club Championships? Explain please. M&D, Heros and Skywalkers were among the teams that attended both tournaments. B level college coaches? You just make stuff up.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so

Blue = 11 BLC and 5 Pride and 5 Stars

Orange = 4 Pride

did i miss anything?

1 VA Metro to Blue as well. Will be interesting to see if Blue bumps anyone up if/when offers are declined.

Anyone know which goalies were offered spots?

Curious about this too. Anyone know which programs they came from?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is “join the team where she has the most friends an option?”

My estimate is that 65% of girls (probably 75% of boys) on any team outside of the top 25 will not play college for a variety of reasons. Get better with good friends and see what happens. Be a leader on your high school team and develop into the best adult possible.

If being recruited is your only measure of success for a parent, be prepared to be disappointed.

This is a good reminder for everyone. One that I try to remind my household of frequently.

I second this very good point. Girls that know each other well outside of lacrosse and like playing with each other as an extension of those relationships is very important.

This is so true. Unless you are on a CLC B-level team, more than likely the majority of the girls on that team will not be playing lacrosse in college. They would rather go to a UVA or VT as a student vs a school where they can play lacrosse. That is why the social aspect is so important to the vast majority of girls playing lacrosse who are not in the top tier.

This is also so true, speaking as a parent of a former CLC player, because it's not unusual for some girls who opt for D1 decide it's not worth it and/or wonder what they are doing at a college their family never even knew existed before they went through recruiting and either drop or transfer. And if the girl decides to go to UVA or VT, both schools have excellent, nationally ranked club teams that play colleges/universities from all over the country and allow your talented DD to have a "normal" college life and still play fun, extremely competitive lacrosse. The UVA club team, ranked 6th in the country this past year, has a good amount of players from CLC Orange, as well as other nationally ranked HS club teams. JMU also has a competitive club lax team. Some of the girls on the college club teams are actually former D1 players who for whatever reason (academics, lack of playing time) switched to club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is “join the team where she has the most friends an option?”

My estimate is that 65% of girls (probably 75% of boys) on any team outside of the top 25 will not play college for a variety of reasons. Get better with good friends and see what happens. Be a leader on your high school team and develop into the best adult possible.

If being recruited is your only measure of success for a parent, be prepared to be disappointed.

This is a good reminder for everyone. One that I try to remind my household of frequently.

I second this very good point. Girls that know each other well outside of lacrosse and like playing with each other as an extension of those relationships is very important.

This is so true. Unless you are on a CLC B-level team, more than likely the majority of the girls on that team will not be playing lacrosse in college. They would rather go to a UVA or VT as a student vs a school where they can play lacrosse. That is why the social aspect is so important to the vast majority of girls playing lacrosse who are not in the top tier.

This is also so true, speaking as a parent of a former CLC player, because it's not unusual for some girls who opt for D1 decide it's not worth it and/or wonder what they are doing at a college their family never even knew existed before they went through recruiting and either drop or transfer. And if the girl decides to go to UVA or VT, both schools have excellent, nationally ranked club teams that play colleges/universities from all over the country and allow your talented DD to have a "normal" college life and still play fun, extremely competitive lacrosse. The UVA club team, ranked 6th in the country this past year, has a good amount of players from CLC Orange, as well as other nationally ranked HS club teams. JMU also has a competitive club lax team. Some of the girls on the college club teams are actually former D1 players who for whatever reason (academics, lack of playing time) switched to club.

This happens more than people realize. It would be interesting to know how many of these college players stop playing lacrosse at any level and just focus on academics. I would not fault a person for doing this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is “join the team where she has the most friends an option?”

My estimate is that 65% of girls (probably 75% of boys) on any team outside of the top 25 will not play college for a variety of reasons. Get better with good friends and see what happens. Be a leader on your high school team and develop into the best adult possible.

If being recruited is your only measure of success for a parent, be prepared to be disappointed.

This is a good reminder for everyone. One that I try to remind my household of frequently.

I second this very good point. Girls that know each other well outside of lacrosse and like playing with each other as an extension of those relationships is very important.

This is so true. Unless you are on a CLC B-level team, more than likely the majority of the girls on that team will not be playing lacrosse in college. They would rather go to a UVA or VT as a student vs a school where they can play lacrosse. That is why the social aspect is so important to the vast majority of girls playing lacrosse who are not in the top tier.

This is also so true, speaking as a parent of a former CLC player, because it's not unusual for some girls who opt for D1 decide it's not worth it and/or wonder what they are doing at a college their family never even knew existed before they went through recruiting and either drop or transfer. And if the girl decides to go to UVA or VT, both schools have excellent, nationally ranked club teams that play colleges/universities from all over the country and allow your talented DD to have a "normal" college life and still play fun, extremely competitive lacrosse. The UVA club team, ranked 6th in the country this past year, has a good amount of players from CLC Orange, as well as other nationally ranked HS club teams. JMU also has a competitive club lax team. Some of the girls on the college club teams are actually former D1 players who for whatever reason (academics, lack of playing time) switched to club.

Speaking as a parent who has a daughter playing D1 for a top academic and ranked program, I’ve never understood players/parents who even consider a school based on a lacrosse offer alone. The only question to ask is…would you have considered this school if lacrosse was not part of the equation. Sadly, too many commits get caught up in the moment and the answer is no, which leads to an outcome that didn’t need to happen.

Club is a great option for many. VT is generally the most consistent and highest ranked of area schools. They will be in the mix for the WLCA championship every year. You better be a good student. To get in you will probably need a 4.5+ GPA and 1400+ SAT plus a lot of honors classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is “join the team where she has the most friends an option?”

My estimate is that 65% of girls (probably 75% of boys) on any team outside of the top 25 will not play college for a variety of reasons. Get better with good friends and see what happens. Be a leader on your high school team and develop into the best adult possible.

If being recruited is your only measure of success for a parent, be prepared to be disappointed.

This is a good reminder for everyone. One that I try to remind my household of frequently.

I second this very good point. Girls that know each other well outside of lacrosse and like playing with each other as an extension of those relationships is very important.

This is so true. Unless you are on a CLC B-level team, more than likely the majority of the girls on that team will not be playing lacrosse in college. They would rather go to a UVA or VT as a student vs a school where they can play lacrosse. That is why the social aspect is so important to the vast majority of girls playing lacrosse who are not in the top tier.

This is also so true, speaking as a parent of a former CLC player, because it's not unusual for some girls who opt for D1 decide it's not worth it and/or wonder what they are doing at a college their family never even knew existed before they went through recruiting and either drop or transfer. And if the girl decides to go to UVA or VT, both schools have excellent, nationally ranked club teams that play colleges/universities from all over the country and allow your talented DD to have a "normal" college life and still play fun, extremely competitive lacrosse. The UVA club team, ranked 6th in the country this past year, has a good amount of players from CLC Orange, as well as other nationally ranked HS club teams. JMU also has a competitive club lax team. Some of the girls on the college club teams are actually former D1 players who for whatever reason (academics, lack of playing time) switched to club.

Speaking as a parent who has a daughter playing D1 for a top academic and ranked program, I’ve never understood players/parents who even consider a school based on a lacrosse offer alone. The only question to ask is…would you have considered this school if lacrosse was not part of the equation. Sadly, too many commits get caught up in the moment and the answer is no, which leads to an outcome that didn’t need to happen.

Club is a great option for many. VT is generally the most consistent and highest ranked of area schools. They will be in the mix for the WLCA championship every year. You better be a good student. To get in you will probably need a 4.5+ GPA and 1400+ SAT plus a lot of honors classes.

Of course you have never understood that - you were never faced with such a decision. Unfortunately it is very easy to get caught up in all the recruiting BS when your DD is a very talented athlete on a top HS club team and say no to your DD's dreams while she watches her teammates say yes.

And I think you mean UVA, not VT, although an applicant needs a strong academic record to get into Tech and their club team is excellent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is “join the team where she has the most friends an option?”

My estimate is that 65% of girls (probably 75% of boys) on any team outside of the top 25 will not play college for a variety of reasons. Get better with good friends and see what happens. Be a leader on your high school team and develop into the best adult possible.

If being recruited is your only measure of success for a parent, be prepared to be disappointed.

This is a good reminder for everyone. One that I try to remind my household of frequently.

I second this very good point. Girls that know each other well outside of lacrosse and like playing with each other as an extension of those relationships is very important.

This is so true. Unless you are on a CLC B-level team, more than likely the majority of the girls on that team will not be playing lacrosse in college. They would rather go to a UVA or VT as a student vs a school where they can play lacrosse. That is why the social aspect is so important to the vast majority of girls playing lacrosse who are not in the top tier.

This is also so true, speaking as a parent of a former CLC player, because it's not unusual for some girls who opt for D1 decide it's not worth it and/or wonder what they are doing at a college their family never even knew existed before they went through recruiting and either drop or transfer. And if the girl decides to go to UVA or VT, both schools have excellent, nationally ranked club teams that play colleges/universities from all over the country and allow your talented DD to have a "normal" college life and still play fun, extremely competitive lacrosse. The UVA club team, ranked 6th in the country this past year, has a good amount of players from CLC Orange, as well as other nationally ranked HS club teams. JMU also has a competitive club lax team. Some of the girls on the college club teams are actually former D1 players who for whatever reason (academics, lack of playing time) switched to club.

Speaking as a parent who has a daughter playing D1 for a top academic and ranked program, I’ve never understood players/parents who even consider a school based on a lacrosse offer alone. The only question to ask is…would you have considered this school if lacrosse was not part of the equation. Sadly, too many commits get caught up in the moment and the answer is no, which leads to an outcome that didn’t need to happen.

Club is a great option for many. VT is generally the most consistent and highest ranked of area schools. They will be in the mix for the WLCA championship every year. You better be a good student. To get in you will probably need a 4.5+ GPA and 1400+ SAT plus a lot of honors classes.

Of course you have never understood that - you were never faced with such a decision. Unfortunately it is very easy to get caught up in all the recruiting BS when your DD is a very talented athlete on a top HS club team and say no to your DD's dreams while she watches her teammates say yes.

And I think you mean UVA, not VT, although an applicant needs a strong academic record to get into Tech and their club team is excellent.

The poster is correct, VT has typically been the best club team in this area. They beat UVA twice this past season and finished 4th in the last National rankings. They chose not to participate in the WCLA tournament this past May. Academically, applicants should have close to the numbers noted to ensure having a good chance of getting accepted into the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok so

Blue = 11 BLC and 5 Pride and 5 Stars

Orange = 4 Pride

did i miss anything?

1 VA Metro to Blue as well. Will be interesting to see if Blue bumps anyone up if/when offers are declined.

Anyone know which goalies were offered spots?

Curious about this too. Anyone know which programs they came from?

I can’t imagine that anyone will be surprised once the rosters come out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pride A is a better option than Capital B team. College coaches don’t want B level players.

That’s so not true. Capital B has better connections and better recruiting staff.

Fwiw, with the exception of 1 tournament his summer (where they were in the same bracket), the Pride 25s played in higher brackets than Capital Orange.

This is not true. Pride and Capital only play two of the same tournaments. One they played in the same bracket and the other pride played one bracket above and didn't fair well (the were originally slotted to play in the same bracket as orange and the two teams were supposed to play again, but katie moved their bracket so they didn't have to risk loosing to a B team). Orange plays in two invitational tournaments where there is heavy recruiting and Pride is not invited to attend so there is no comparing which level brackets they played in in those two tournaments. Finally, organge plays in a 5th tournament to maximize recruiting opportunity and pride does not. One of the tournaments pride plays in that orange does not attracts only B level college coaches.

Moving up a bracket because Pride was afraid to play a team they've already beaten is such a dumb argument I can't believe you aren't embarrassed you said it. I'll stand down if you can provide proof that Katie actually moved to not risk losing to a Capital Orange team. But you can't. Also the game was never on the Pride schedule. I think some Orange parent made this up for message board fodder. Also, which of the two tournaments that Pride played that Cap was absent was second class? Summer Genesis or MidAtlantic Club Championships? Explain please. M&D, Heros and Skywalkers were among the teams that attended both tournaments. B level college coaches? You just make stuff up.

This person also called out g8 as being an elite invitation that Pride was not worthy of. Well yjma goes to G8 but M&d does not. Ever think politics or logistics come into play? Or maybe clc is more elite than M&d thus the “snub.”

Originally,, in 2015, G8 was inviting 8 elite programs.. Skywalkers, YJ, STEPS, Capital, Mass Elite, M&D, Phantastix, and I think Heros?, etc A few years ago, someone at G8 realized that they were not maximizing their profits, and expanded the list to almost anyone. This is why teams like Laxachussets, and YJMA are now attending g the G8. (Sure! We'll take your money!!) Yes, there are still elite teams attending- and are all in the same pool. It is now a much larger tournament than the original 8 elite club programs. At the end of the day, it's all about the cash....

[Anonymous]

"At the end of the day, it's all about the cash...."

The Sports Industrial Complex is driving all of these decisions.

We may get to a point in the not so distant future where teams mostly or only attend tourneys with a financial connection to their club. STJ may be buying additional clubs, YJ is expanding, Tru is expanding and 3D is expanding. MnD is starting to move away from tournaments that are not part of their parent company 3 Step. The other clubs that are owned by 3 step sports are slowly moving away from unaffiliated tourneys as well. 3 Step has substantially expanded their event offerings so they can keep tourneys in house to generate more revenue.

G8 is viewed as a competitor to 3 Step owned tourneys. Girls lax will likely end up with a few power leagues made of clubs owned by a single parent company that only play each other through the normal course of the year and avoid playing in unaffiliated tournaments.

The Sports Industrial Complex is driving all of these decisions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is “join the team where she has the most friends an option?”

My estimate is that 65% of girls (probably 75% of boys) on any team outside of the top 25 will not play college for a variety of reasons. Get better with good friends and see what happens. Be a leader on your high school team and develop into the best adult possible.

If being recruited is your only measure of success for a parent, be prepared to be disappointed.

This is a good reminder for everyone. One that I try to remind my household of frequently.

I second this very good point. Girls that know each other well outside of lacrosse and like playing with each other as an extension of those relationships is very important.

This is so true. Unless you are on a CLC B-level team, more than likely the majority of the girls on that team will not be playing lacrosse in college. They would rather go to a UVA or VT as a student vs a school where they can play lacrosse. That is why the social aspect is so important to the vast majority of girls playing lacrosse who are not in the top tier.

This is also so true, speaking as a parent of a former CLC player, because it's not unusual for some girls who opt for D1 decide it's not worth it and/or wonder what they are doing at a college their family never even knew existed before they went through recruiting and either drop or transfer. And if the girl decides to go to UVA or VT, both schools have excellent, nationally ranked club teams that play colleges/universities from all over the country and allow your talented DD to have a "normal" college life and still play fun, extremely competitive lacrosse. The UVA club team, ranked 6th in the country this past year, has a good amount of players from CLC Orange, as well as other nationally ranked HS club teams. JMU also has a competitive club lax team. Some of the girls on the college club teams are actually former D1 players who for whatever reason (academics, lack of playing time) switched to club.

Speaking as a parent who has a daughter playing D1 for a top academic and ranked program, I’ve never understood players/parents who even consider a school based on a lacrosse offer alone. The only question to ask is…would you have considered this school if lacrosse was not part of the equation. Sadly, too many commits get caught up in the moment and the answer is no, which leads to an outcome that didn’t need to happen.

Club is a great option for many. VT is generally the most consistent and highest ranked of area schools. They will be in the mix for the WLCA championship every year. You better be a good student. To get in you will probably need a 4.5+ GPA and 1400+ SAT plus a lot of honors classes.

Of course you have never understood that - you were never faced with such a decision. Unfortunately it is very easy to get caught up in all the recruiting BS when your DD is a very talented athlete on a top HS club team and say no to your DD's dreams while she watches her teammates say yes.

And I think you mean UVA, not VT, although an applicant needs a strong academic record to get into Tech and their club team is excellent.

The poster is correct, VT has typically been the best club team in this area. They beat UVA twice this past season and finished 4th in the last National rankings. They chose not to participate in the WCLA tournament this past May. Academically, applicants should have close to the numbers noted to ensure having a good chance of getting accepted into the school.

DP. Completely off topic but no way does an applicant need a 4.5 gpa to “ensure a good chance of getting accepted” to Tech, a school with well over a 50% acceptance rate. It’s a great school, getting more competitive and I know plenty of smart students there but I’ve had 4 kids graduate from nova public schools in the past 6 years, including this past year, and their friends getting in have gpas well below a 4.5, even for engineering. Good to know their club lax team is so good. DD has a friend hoping to play for it.

[Anonymous]

seems like a huge number of girls quit playing lacrosse when they get tot he D1 level each year and move to club. I think it's the reason why club teams at strong schools are so competitive.

D1 is a big commitment and a lot of girls just aren't prepared or get injured and move on. They probably get burned out by the crazy lacrosse drama in high school as well

Get away from mom and dad and realize there really is much more to life than year 'round laxing

[Anonymous]

In order to get to the D1 level, you have to almost kill yourself starting at age 9. By the time you get there, you’re toast. Really need to love the game and not just do it because mommy and daddy are paying for 3 extra sessions a week and keep pushing “Piper” to work harder so they can brag about her at the CC. This story is all too common in the DMV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In order to get to the D1 level, you have to almost kill yourself starting at age 9. By the time you get there, you’re toast. Really need to love the game and not just do it because mommy and daddy are paying for 3 extra sessions a week and keep pushing “Piper” to work harder so they can brag about her at the CC. This story is all too common in the DMV.

It amazes me and is troubling how many kids choose to commit to schools they would never attend without a lacrosse offer. Choose a school first and if lacrosse works out that’s a bonus.

[Anonymous]

My daughter hd 2 solid offers from D1 schools, one being in the top 30 and a top 4 D3 school but high academic. At the end of the day, she made the most grown up decision I have ever seen her make. She looked at the pros and cons for all schools and decided to pass on all of them, and is now headed to a large SEC school. In the end, even though she loves lax, she wanted a different college experience other than playing lacrosse non stop.
I am so proud of her for the decision she made and the main point is, she is HAPPY and excited at her choice.
Just sharing this because there is nothing wrong choosing not to ply the sport you love in college, even though you had an opportunity to do so.
I’ve said my peace, saying by to these lax forums forever