How does your redshirted kid feel now that she/he is older?

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Anonymous wrote:I'll give you a different perspective - my DS is a late summer birthday and we did not redshirt him. He has always done well academically and we could tell when he was in preschool that he could handle a full day of kindergarten. He was ready. And he was tall for his age. So we didn 't redshirt. Well, now he's in high school, and it turns out he really likes sports, and he is the youngest and smallest on teams. We really do wish that we had redshirted him. Being the youngest can be socially awkward with friends too -- everyone gets licenses and hits physical milestones ahead of you in general. If you're even considering redshirting than I encourage you to just do it. Also, if you go the private school route, everyone with a summer birthday is held for the following year. Another thing I wish we'd realized. Fortunately, he's done absolutely fine academically and he's tall for his age.


I have no regrets not holding my child back. Their sport is by age so it does not matter what grade they are in and academics for us are the priority. Who cares if they get the license first. Mine got into advanced music and the sports team no issue as the youngest.


Yeah you’ve posted 27 times on this thread, *we know* your perspective.


No different from those pushing everyone to hold back their kids to make them better and stronger for sports.

No one is doing that.

Why are you so offended that some people made a different decision for their kids than you did? What impact does it make on you or your kid?


DP here. I have a child with an August birthday that started K on time. There are kids that redshirted and are a full year older than him. I do resent that they have an easier time with some of the academics and are better in sports because they are older and taller. My kid does pretty well especially considering his age, but I have to remind him that other kids are older, so he can’t always compare his abilities to theirs directly.


And there it is, the zero-sum blood sport approach to education. Not everyone approaches education and parenting as this vicious cage match.


Thank goodness those other families “got theirs” and redshirted their kids so those kids would be oldest and leaders in the class! Zero sum game indeed. Take what’s yours!

How does it affect your kid in any way that other kids are doing better in class because they've been redshirted?

You just come off as mean and spiteful. Would it make you happier if these kids were struggling?


That’s just it. A large tipping point mass of redshirting makes the other kids who are younger struggle. And then more redshirting and earlier redshirting happens (if parents are even aware how prevalent it is in certain places) and more curriculum speed. So on and so forth until differentiation and tracking starts in MS or HS.


If kids are struggling solely due to their age versus the class material & how it’s conducted, the School board, sept of Ed and schools need to change the curriculum and how they spend their time, or do more tracking.


Before kids just repeated a grade. Many did, even if bad in one subject. Didn’t know Latin well? Repeat 3rd grade. And the kid did just that. But that’s more pinpointed and less pervasive. And doesn’t affect the dynamic of the whole composition, the way rampant redshirting does.

Do you agree having over 20% of a grade already be 6 upon starting K is a critical mass? And what about the districts or schools where it’s 30%? 40%?

And don’t say oooh a bunch of kids have September bdays so it’s fine March-august are mainly redshirted. There are fall, winter, spring and summer bday kids who started on time.


I’m not the PP but my reading of the limited studies out there is that I’d like parents to have a greater range of time available to them, and that mixed-age classes are actually better overall.

I reject your entire premise, in other words, and I think parents have a good sense of when their kids are ready for school and should be trusted with that.
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Anonymous wrote:I'll give you a different perspective - my DS is a late summer birthday and we did not redshirt him. He has always done well academically and we could tell when he was in preschool that he could handle a full day of kindergarten. He was ready. And he was tall for his age. So we didn 't redshirt. Well, now he's in high school, and it turns out he really likes sports, and he is the youngest and smallest on teams. We really do wish that we had redshirted him. Being the youngest can be socially awkward with friends too -- everyone gets licenses and hits physical milestones ahead of you in general. If you're even considering redshirting than I encourage you to just do it. Also, if you go the private school route, everyone with a summer birthday is held for the following year. Another thing I wish we'd realized. Fortunately, he's done absolutely fine academically and he's tall for his age.


I have no regrets not holding my child back. Their sport is by age so it does not matter what grade they are in and academics for us are the priority. Who cares if they get the license first. Mine got into advanced music and the sports team no issue as the youngest.


Yeah you’ve posted 27 times on this thread, *we know* your perspective.


No different from those pushing everyone to hold back their kids to make them better and stronger for sports.

No one is doing that.

Why are you so offended that some people made a different decision for their kids than you did? What impact does it make on you or your kid?


DP here. I have a child with an August birthday that started K on time. There are kids that redshirted and are a full year older than him. I do resent that they have an easier time with some of the academics and are better in sports because they are older and taller. My kid does pretty well especially considering his age, but I have to remind him that other kids are older, so he can’t always compare his abilities to theirs directly.


And there it is, the zero-sum blood sport approach to education. Not everyone approaches education and parenting as this vicious cage match.


Thank goodness those other families “got theirs” and redshirted their kids so those kids would be oldest and leaders in the class! Zero sum game indeed. Take what’s yours!

How does it affect your kid in any way that other kids are doing better in class because they've been redshirted?

You just come off as mean and spiteful. Would it make you happier if these kids were struggling?


You really have to ask? Kids feel inferior when they can’t do as well. Yes, there is always going to be variation in abilities, but when some kids are a year older, it’s noticeable. I’m not actually super competitive, I just don’t want my kid to feel like he’s less capable when really he’s on track for his age.

If your kid is doing well, but feels inferior because some other kid is doing better, you should be concerned about the messaging you're giving your kid about academics. There's always someone who does better than you. That's life.

The other kid is not stealing your kid's grades.


And hence then more parents have to play the redshirting game. So on and so forth.


Or take their own advice get help, smaller class size, counseling, tutoring, etc.
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Anonymous wrote:I'll give you a different perspective - my DS is a late summer birthday and we did not redshirt him. He has always done well academically and we could tell when he was in preschool that he could handle a full day of kindergarten. He was ready. And he was tall for his age. So we didn 't redshirt. Well, now he's in high school, and it turns out he really likes sports, and he is the youngest and smallest on teams. We really do wish that we had redshirted him. Being the youngest can be socially awkward with friends too -- everyone gets licenses and hits physical milestones ahead of you in general. If you're even considering redshirting than I encourage you to just do it. Also, if you go the private school route, everyone with a summer birthday is held for the following year. Another thing I wish we'd realized. Fortunately, he's done absolutely fine academically and he's tall for his age.


I have no regrets not holding my child back. Their sport is by age so it does not matter what grade they are in and academics for us are the priority. Who cares if they get the license first. Mine got into advanced music and the sports team no issue as the youngest.


Yeah you’ve posted 27 times on this thread, *we know* your perspective.


No different from those pushing everyone to hold back their kids to make them better and stronger for sports.

No one is doing that.

Why are you so offended that some people made a different decision for their kids than you did? What impact does it make on you or your kid?


DP here. I have a child with an August birthday that started K on time. There are kids that redshirted and are a full year older than him. I do resent that they have an easier time with some of the academics and are better in sports because they are older and taller. My kid does pretty well especially considering his age, but I have to remind him that other kids are older, so he can’t always compare his abilities to theirs directly.


And there it is, the zero-sum blood sport approach to education. Not everyone approaches education and parenting as this vicious cage match.


Thank goodness those other families “got theirs” and redshirted their kids so those kids would be oldest and leaders in the class! Zero sum game indeed. Take what’s yours!

How does it affect your kid in any way that other kids are doing better in class because they've been redshirted?

You just come off as mean and spiteful. Would it make you happier if these kids were struggling?


That’s just it. A large tipping point mass of redshirting makes the other kids who are younger struggle. And then more redshirting and earlier redshirting happens (if parents are even aware how prevalent it is in certain places) and more curriculum speed. So on and so forth until differentiation and tracking starts in MS or HS.
Why would that be the case? Redshirted kids being better able to handle academics and the social interaction of school in no way makes it harder for your kid to do well. It's not a zero sum game or some competition.

The rest of your post makes no sense, because your basic premise is wrong.
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Anonymous wrote:I'll give you a different perspective - my DS is a late summer birthday and we did not redshirt him. He has always done well academically and we could tell when he was in preschool that he could handle a full day of kindergarten. He was ready. And he was tall for his age. So we didn 't redshirt. Well, now he's in high school, and it turns out he really likes sports, and he is the youngest and smallest on teams. We really do wish that we had redshirted him. Being the youngest can be socially awkward with friends too -- everyone gets licenses and hits physical milestones ahead of you in general. If you're even considering redshirting than I encourage you to just do it. Also, if you go the private school route, everyone with a summer birthday is held for the following year. Another thing I wish we'd realized. Fortunately, he's done absolutely fine academically and he's tall for his age.


It’s a hard decision. You should not kick yourself. I am sure your kid is going to thrive, he’s got a thoughtful parent!


It’s also a hard decision because down the road is when many students’ learning disabilities or ADHD/ASD symptoms emerge. But being 12 months older doing the material, or class schedule, or workload doesn’t necessarily help them figure out how to manage those symptoms. Specific coaching, medicine, and/or a smaller class size w attentive teachers does.

So redshirting a 6 yo or later in school isn’t really the solution there. Don’t beat yourself up that you should have done that. SN kids can by a mystery for a while and a heavier lift.


Also time. You may think that's not the solution but to many it is.


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It is the solution recommended by many, many experienced clinicians.
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I’m ok with the June-August redshirting, hopefully in consultation with pediatrician and preschool teacher thoughts.

I’m not ok with it sliding to March, April, may kids.

If a school is allowing that I would hope they are transparent and publish the grade breakdowns so future parents can make informed plans for their children - when starting K or moving to a new district.

It would be a difficult situation to have a good student and move to a district with significant holdbacks and a large composition of older students. I wouldn’t want to be blindsided by that, but it would be a struggle to know what to do with my own children who have summer birthdays. It is not clear how it plays out for girls or boys in grade 6-12.
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Anonymous wrote:Love the gaslighting: it’s not competitive to unilaterally hold back a 4 yo so they can be bigger and more developed for all of k-12.


You have such a twisted world view. I am so sorry for you and your kid. It must be awful to go through life living with that level of anxiety.
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Anonymous wrote:Love the gaslighting: it’s not competitive to unilaterally hold back a 4 yo so they can be bigger and more developed for all of k-12.


You have such a twisted world view. I am so sorry for you and your kid. It must be awful to go through life living with that level of anxiety.


I missed it here. So everyone redshirting is holding back a suspected ADHD kid or a potentially short kid or a kid “not yet ‘ready’”.
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One of the only countries in the world that doesn’t see the relative age in class impact likelihood of ADHD medication prescription also allows greater flexibility in entrance age and greater parental discretion.

https://acamh.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/jcpp.12243

From the study authors:


Contrary to previous study results, we observed almost no relative age effect on medication use for ADHD among children in Denmark. We postulate that this may be due to the high proportion of relatively young children held back by 1 year in the Danish school system and/or a generally low prevalence of ADHD medication use in the country.



Relative age in the Danish classroom, thus, normally coincides with the order of birth months, i.e. children born in January are the oldest and children born in December are the youngest. However, parents may opt for a delayed entry into grade school if their child is considered immature for his/her age. Occasionally, they may opt for an early school entry if their child is considered particularly mature.



We propose that the high proportion of relatively young children with delayed school entry in Denmark may play a role in the near absence of a relative age effect in our data.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m ok with the June-August redshirting, hopefully in consultation with pediatrician and preschool teacher thoughts.

I’m not ok with it sliding to March, April, may kids.

If a school is allowing that I would hope they are transparent and publish the grade breakdowns so future parents can make informed plans for their children - when starting K or moving to a new district.

It would be a difficult situation to have a good student and move to a district with significant holdbacks and a large composition of older students. I wouldn’t want to be blindsided by that, but it would be a struggle to know what to do with my own children who have summer birthdays. It is not clear how it plays out for girls or boys in grade 6-12.


You can ask the schools. They do tell you, both private and public.

For what it’s worth one of my (non-redshirted) teen’s closest friends was a redshirted February kid. I don’t know why he was redshirted, not my business. But he was clearly in the right grade for him, and is a wonderful kid. I do not think rigidity is a good answer here.
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Since NYC has had rigid cutoffs for many years now and should have plenty of outcome data to work with, I would appreciate it if one of DCUM’s anti-redshirt posters could link to all the studies demonstrating that rigid cutoff policies lead to better educational outcomes for kids. TIA.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m ok with the June-August redshirting, hopefully in consultation with pediatrician and preschool teacher thoughts.

I’m not ok with it sliding to March, April, may kids.

If a school is allowing that I would hope they are transparent and publish the grade breakdowns so future parents can make informed plans for their children - when starting K or moving to a new district.

It would be a difficult situation to have a good student and move to a district with significant holdbacks and a large composition of older students. I wouldn’t want to be blindsided by that, but it would be a struggle to know what to do with my own children who have summer birthdays. It is not clear how it plays out for girls or boys in grade 6-12.


You can ask the schools. They do tell you, both private and public.

For what it’s worth one of my (non-redshirted) teen’s closest friends was a redshirted February kid. I don’t know why he was redshirted, not my business. But he was clearly in the right grade for him, and is a wonderful kid. I do not think rigidity is a good answer here.


My daughter's private in NYC will also tell parents if they think children are ready (even if parent wants to redshirt). My daughter has an early May birthday as does her friend. The school's cut off for Pre-K is that children need to turn 4 by June 1. Both my daughter and her friend got into pre-k as the youngest in the grade. My daughter's friend's parents didn't want her to be the youngest and asked the school for a breakdown of the class and if they could defer and enroll her in Pre-K the following year. The school said that their daughter would need to reapply next year and that when she reapplied they would recommend/consider her for K and not Pre-K. Essentially the private said she was ready and they wouldn't be ok with her parents redshirting. Not sure if that's unique to this private, but it happens.
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Anonymous wrote:In my DD's friend group (9th grade) there are 4 girls who are redshirted. No one cares.

My observation as a parent of a teenager with ADHD - redshirting your kid will help. After about 3rd grade, my son was 6 - 18 months behind in the executive functioning elements. Middle school through the beginning of 11th grade was really hard as all the conversations were about completing homework and things that were not done in class. Now at the end of 11th grade I have a kid who has survived a lot of challenges - and I wish it did not need to be that hard for him. He is really smart - but our school is not about being smart - it is about delivering assignments the way the teachers want them.


Kids care and talk. Don't kid yourself.


DP - not at all. I have 4 kids - Redshirting is so common these days. Kids don’t care. If a student repeats 4th grade or something, it will be noticed


It's common in families like yours where you have too many kids to meet their individual needs so you take the easy road vs. the best for the child road. Maybe you young kids don't care but it gets pretty obvious when a senior is 19 all of senior year. Or, a 16 year old freshman is driving.


Huh. My redshirted summer boy will be 18 all senior year just like his non redshirted sister with a September birthday. Same thing.


How is this possible???? My non-redshirted Sep birthday kid turned 18 the first week of college.




Might be different cutoffs (September 1 versus September 30)?


Then pp should state her kid went to schools with different cutoffs, otherwise it's not possible.


Sep 1 cutoff is very common. All around the country. Your freshman will know this.


If the cutoff is Sep 1 and her dd has a Sept bday, it wouldn't be common to hold a child back if they were the oldest in the class. So, her comment that her DD "wasn't redshirted" made it sound like she was in DCPS because Sept bdays would more often be held back. Again, if the cutoff is Sep 1 her daughter would be 18 all year. A summer bday, as suggested by her other kid, would be 19.

I'm not arguing either for/against. I'm asking someone to make a claim to make it make sense.


Do you really not understand how it is possible for a redshirted kid to be 18 all of senior year as well as a non-redshirted kid?

+1 why are the anti-redshirters So.Bad.at.math?!

We live in Maryland. The cutoff is September 1st.

My redshirted son is a high school junior. August 30th, 2005. He will turn 18 right around the first day of his senior year. He will turn 19 two months AFTER he graduates. My daughter is a NON-redshirted 8th grader. September 29th, 2008. She will turn 18 about a month into her senior year of high school and thus be 18 for the vast majority of it- just like her brother.

Summer redshirts are not 19 at any point in high school. Unless they're early-mid June birthdays. But I don't think that's very common. My experience is that it's mostly August bdays that are redshirted, sometimes July, and those kids turn 19 AFTER they graduate. A summer birthday who is 19 as a senior would have been "double redshirted."


Idk but it is a constant theme of these threads. People who are opposed to redshirting cannot do even basic math. I’ve wondered before if that is why they are so bizarre: they lack some common capabilities.


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I don’t think the issue is kids born one month before cutoff and holding back summer boy, the generally are more immature and this is better for everyone in the class frankly. Better behavior and focus.

The issue - which NY make strict collars on the 12-15 months allowed per grade, including starting K as a 4 yo technically - is when the redshirting creeps up and up. To June and may bdays. And March and April bdays. And then there is an 18 month span of kids and not 12 within a classroom. Or worse, a gap of no kids from April- august and thus 40% of the class is starting at the age they were supposed to turn during the year at the first day of class. Then the whole social dynamic come middle school with its range of puberty fun and growth spurts is further magnified. High school it might be less so.

And last I read 50% of teens in the dmv don’t get their license even by age 17. It’s crazy driving around here and Uber works fine.

That’s true NY put the kibash on redshirting by disallowing it. That’s what happens when parents get out of hand.


New York as a whole did not put the kibash on it. Only NYC public schools did. All the New York City private schools have a 9/1 cutoff. the NY public schools in the suburbs are generally 12/31, but allow redshirting. The private schools in the suburbs have varying cutoffs.

What this means in NYC is that any parent who wants to redshirt a fall child will go the private school route if they have the means to do so. The data in NYC is exactly the same: kids with birthdays in the last two months before the cut off are diagnosed with learning disabilities at higher rates. https://ny.chalkbeat.org/2020/2/4/21178551/your-child-s-birth-month-matters-nyc-students-born-in-november-and-december-are-classified-with-lear?_amp=true

The youngest kids in the grade will always be more likely to he at a disadvantage. The data clearly shows this, and shows that classrooms don’t accommodate the full 12-14 month range of its students, pariticwlry the younger ones. Some young kids won’t be impacted, and some will. It is fair to let the parents decide what to do with a child who falls into this range.

In my sons current 4s class with a 12/31 cutoff, there are 11 kids- 5 kids are young with fall bd days. 2 have decided to do jr k (including us) and 3 decided to have their kids move on to K because they felt they were ready. In addition, his class also has 2 current redshirts repeating 4s who turned 5 last fall. It’s pretty common, and if redshirting gives some kids the time they need to mature to cooperate better in the classroom that decision should be up to the school and parents.

Infuriating.


It is. It is why NYC is such an outlier in not allowing redshirting, and why very few other districts nationally have taken such a rigid and problematic approach.


Why is it infuriating? If the conclusion is that classrooms can't accommodate the youngest in a room with a 12-14 month range, what does redshirting solve? There will always be kids who are youngest in class. With red shirting, the potential range within the same class is even wider, making it even harder to teach to both ends of the age spectrum represented.

Fwiw my dd has a late November birthday and is thriving in her NYC public elementary school despite turning five several months into kindergarten. She's in older ES now.



DP. It's infuriating because it is totally inequitable and frankly unfair to certain kids regardless of where they fall on the social-economic spectrum. Every kid is different, but some kids come to school with challenges, whether that involves coming from poverty or a family that does not speak English or never having had high-quality pre-school, or having ADHD or whatever reason, starting school with those challenges puts kids at a disadvantage and is compounded by being the youngest (especially in NYC where kids are only 4). It is well established that the youngest in the grade are more likely to be diagnosed with learning disabilities or ADHD. Lower-income families have fewer resources to address those issues. A rigid cutoff that includes 4-year-olds in kindergarten is setting way too many kids up to fail. Are you aware that there's a world out there that doesn't just revolve around your superstar elementary schooler with a November birthday? This isn't about gaining an advantage; it's about being realistic about where kids are developmentally and whether they are able to be successful when they start school.



+1. And people like the PP almost always have a daughter they are gloating about being so mature and ahead of the others when they are young when the data clearly shows that boys are at risk.


What are the unique risks for boys? Is it being smaller for sports? Or are there some other issues?


Much more likely to be diagnosed with ADHD, much more likely to drop out.


Sounds like NCLB and Common Core testing really made school worse for everyone.

Tons of testing to get on a certain track and prove to the govt something. Too much material to cover too quickly in k-8. Took away daily gym class and two recessed. Art is only once a week. Math is 90 minutes a day half w screens; same for reading.

Thus worried parents ramp up the redshirting and tutoring and grooming.
Kids aren’t learning, just going through material and tests at breakneck speeds.
Worse is they may never slow down enough to figure out what they really enjoy doing or studying.


There is no common core testing. Common core is a set of guidelines so when kids change schools all schools are doing the similar material per year so the kids can transition well. We found k-7 painfully slow and it skipped a lot of foundation work like teaching spelling, vocabulary, grammar and math facts. We had to do that at home. Math became accelerated for sone starting in 6th.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m ok with the June-August redshirting, hopefully in consultation with pediatrician and preschool teacher thoughts.

I’m not ok with it sliding to March, April, may kids.

If a school is allowing that I would hope they are transparent and publish the grade breakdowns so future parents can make informed plans for their children - when starting K or moving to a new district.

It would be a difficult situation to have a good student and move to a district with significant holdbacks and a large composition of older students. I wouldn’t want to be blindsided by that, but it would be a struggle to know what to do with my own children who have summer birthdays. It is not clear how it plays out for girls or boys in grade 6-12.


You can ask the schools. They do tell you, both private and public.

For what it’s worth one of my (non-redshirted) teen’s closest friends was a redshirted February kid. I don’t know why he was redshirted, not my business. But he was clearly in the right grade for him, and is a wonderful kid. I do not think rigidity is a good answer here.


My daughter's private in NYC will also tell parents if they think children are ready (even if parent wants to redshirt). My daughter has an early May birthday as does her friend. The school's cut off for Pre-K is that children need to turn 4 by June 1. Both my daughter and her friend got into pre-k as the youngest in the grade. My daughter's friend's parents didn't want her to be the youngest and asked the school for a breakdown of the class and if they could defer and enroll her in Pre-K the following year. The school said that their daughter would need to reapply next year and that when she reapplied they would recommend/consider her for K and not Pre-K. Essentially the private said she was ready and they wouldn't be ok with her parents redshirting. Not sure if that's unique to this private, but it happens.


It’s not unique. One of the advantages of private is that they can do individual readiness assessments.
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The discussion is about how the kids feel? You all are making it about how you feel and justifying your choices by attacking those who do not have the same viewpoint as you. No one is talking about the impact on the kids. Sure, it may make academics easier. Easier is not always better. For the parent whose 8th grader struggled that makes sense if they got tutors and provided lots of support as things really start to ramp up. But, for a child doing well in school, with no academic issues or on the advanced track, how do they, not you feel about it? Do you stop and think about the other long term impacts? If a school, mainly privates don’t offer accelerated math, what if your kid needs it if they are older and more advanced or younger and more advanced? What if they don’t start algebra until 8th or 9th and your child wants it and can handle it younger? What about the opportunities after calculus and what does the school offer? That was what we faced looking at privates in middle school. For an average kid those things will not matter but for a smarter kid it may.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m ok with the June-August redshirting, hopefully in consultation with pediatrician and preschool teacher thoughts.

I’m not ok with it sliding to March, April, may kids.

If a school is allowing that I would hope they are transparent and publish the grade breakdowns so future parents can make informed plans for their children - when starting K or moving to a new district.

It would be a difficult situation to have a good student and move to a district with significant holdbacks and a large composition of older students. I wouldn’t want to be blindsided by that, but it would be a struggle to know what to do with my own children who have summer birthdays. It is not clear how it plays out for girls or boys in grade 6-12.


You can ask the schools. They do tell you, both private and public.

For what it’s worth one of my (non-redshirted) teen’s closest friends was a redshirted February kid. I don’t know why he was redshirted, not my business. But he was clearly in the right grade for him, and is a wonderful kid. I do not think rigidity is a good answer here.


My daughter's private in NYC will also tell parents if they think children are ready (even if parent wants to redshirt). My daughter has an early May birthday as does her friend. The school's cut off for Pre-K is that children need to turn 4 by June 1. Both my daughter and her friend got into pre-k as the youngest in the grade. My daughter's friend's parents didn't want her to be the youngest and asked the school for a breakdown of the class and if they could defer and enroll her in Pre-K the following year. The school said that their daughter would need to reapply next year and that when she reapplied they would recommend/consider her for K and not Pre-K. Essentially the private said she was ready and they wouldn't be ok with her parents redshirting. Not sure if that's unique to this private, but it happens.


It’s not unique. One of the advantages of private is that they can do individual readiness assessments.


In NY, they obviously do but not all schools do. Some just tell you to hold back based off age alone without looking at the grades or testing. So, is that for them or the child? We found some privates very flexible and accommodating and others very ridged about age. Math tracking was a huge issue for us in privates.
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