Is it time to have the difficult conversation about masks and MCPS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS will announce changes to quarantine rules tomorrow.

Well MoCo just reinstated the mask requirement because we regressed in terms of rate of infection in the tiny window where the indoor mask mandate was dropped. Go figure.

Specifically, the number of new cases over 7 days, per 100,000 residents, went like this:

10/26: 45.40
10/27: 44.83
10/28: 47.78
10/29: 50.63
10/30: 53.30
10/31: 51.78
11/1: 51.20

There are about 1.1 million residents in Montgomery County, so translated to total new cases over a 7-day period, it's about

10/26: 499
10/27: 493
10/28: 526
10/29: 557
10/30: 586
10/31: 570
11/1: 563

In other words, not a big difference.

From an epidemiological perspective it is. Because each of those cases has potential other cases attached due to the contagiousness of covid, and particularly Delta. Hence why the country is rescinding the mask free green light.

From an epidemiological perspective, masks should be required if there were 557 new cases in a county of 1.1 million people over the last 7 days, but masks should not be required if there were 526 new cases? Really?

Sure. From an epidemiological perspective, the number 50 is important. It has nothing to do with the fact that it's an even number that's halfway to 100. Epidemiologists attach great scientific meaning to the number 50. They start getting more comfortable at 49.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS will announce changes to quarantine rules tomorrow.

Well MoCo just reinstated the mask requirement because we regressed in terms of rate of infection in the tiny window where the indoor mask mandate was dropped. Go figure.

Specifically, the number of new cases over 7 days, per 100,000 residents, went like this:

10/26: 45.40
10/27: 44.83
10/28: 47.78
10/29: 50.63
10/30: 53.30
10/31: 51.78
11/1: 51.20

There are about 1.1 million residents in Montgomery County, so translated to total new cases over a 7-day period, it's about

10/26: 499
10/27: 493
10/28: 526
10/29: 557
10/30: 586
10/31: 570
11/1: 563

In other words, not a big difference.

From an epidemiological perspective it is. Because each of those cases has potential other cases attached due to the contagiousness of covid, and particularly Delta. Hence why the country is rescinding the mask free green light.

Gimme a break, the county is rescinding the mask because of VERY poorly written regulations, not because of community spread.

And in fact, it looks like it will not be rescinded; county councilmembers have hinted that they will be voting to change the regulation that triggers the return of the mask mandate, and instead will require 7 days of above 50 to institute the mandate, just like we need 7 days below in order to remove the mandate.

And given the VERY low numbers the last 2 days, it is likely it will dip back below 50 tomorrow, which would then cause that 7 day clock to reset.

Awesome! So glad we have these great representatives that are working to keep all of us safe even the anti-vaxers!

Oh, genius, we have one of thee highest vaccination rates in the country. So, what's the excuse with the numbers being high? We should be down to zero if kids don't get it and vaccines are working. In MD its 86%, so you need a new excuse on why number are still high. Starting with your poor behavior. And, as more get vaccinated, the number of vaccinated covid cases will go up, so then what is your excuse?

Agreed. We're approaching 8 billion people on the planet, so the good thing is we're talking about a finite number. Maybe we should collectively get together on Zoom to see how we can come up with behavioral policies for the near-8 billion humans.

[Anonymous]

OMG enough with the vaccinated get COVID too! The current rate on Maryland is 0.12% of vaccinated people got COVID again. COVID is here to stay. People will continue to get COVID. There is always going to be a low level of transmission in the community despite vaccines, masks and bathing in sanitizer. Littles are going to get vaccinated and then there is no excuse to continue with this collective anxiety.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OMG enough with the vaccinated get COVID too! The current rate on Maryland is 0.12% of vaccinated people got COVID again. COVID is here to stay. People will continue to get COVID. There is always going to be a low level of transmission in the community despite vaccines, masks and bathing in sanitizer. Littles are going to get vaccinated and then there is no excuse to continue with this collective anxiety.

But behave better? I think that's the policy that a certain poster on this board is espousing. Perhaps the best thing we can do is try to get in touch with Biden/Machin and see if they'd be willing to re-purpose the $2T toward basement digging. It'll still be BBB...but, in this case, it'll be Build Better Basements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS will announce changes to quarantine rules tomorrow.

Well MoCo just reinstated the mask requirement because we regressed in terms of rate of infection in the tiny window where the indoor mask mandate was dropped. Go figure.

Specifically, the number of new cases over 7 days, per 100,000 residents, went like this:

10/26: 45.40
10/27: 44.83
10/28: 47.78
10/29: 50.63
10/30: 53.30
10/31: 51.78
11/1: 51.20

There are about 1.1 million residents in Montgomery County, so translated to total new cases over a 7-day period, it's about

10/26: 499
10/27: 493
10/28: 526
10/29: 557
10/30: 586
10/31: 570
11/1: 563

In other words, not a big difference.

From an epidemiological perspective it is. Because each of those cases has potential other cases attached due to the contagiousness of covid, and particularly Delta. Hence why the country is rescinding the mask free green light.

Gimme a break, the county is rescinding the mask because of VERY poorly written regulations, not because of community spread.

And in fact, it looks like it will not be rescinded; county councilmembers have hinted that they will be voting to change the regulation that triggers the return of the mask mandate, and instead will require 7 days of above 50 to institute the mandate, just like we need 7 days below in order to remove the mandate.

And given the VERY low numbers the last 2 days, it is likely it will dip back below 50 tomorrow, which would then cause that 7 day clock to reset.

Awesome! So glad we have these great representatives that are working to keep all of us safe even the anti-vaxers!

Oh, genius, we have one of thee highest vaccination rates in the country. So, what's the excuse with the numbers being high? We should be down to zero if kids don't get it and vaccines are working. In MD its 86%, so you need a new excuse on why number are still high. Starting with your poor behavior. And, as more get vaccinated, the number of vaccinated covid cases will go up, so then what is your excuse?

Agreed. We're approaching 8 billion people on the planet, so the good thing is we're talking about a finite number. Maybe we should collectively get together on Zoom to see how we can come up with behavioral policies for the near-8 billion humans.

Other countries with less or no vaccines are doing better than we are. We have the highest number of Covid cases with one of the highest vaccination rates and better health care. They clearly don’t need our help. But we need todo better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG enough with the vaccinated get COVID too! The current rate on Maryland is 0.12% of vaccinated people got COVID again. COVID is here to stay. People will continue to get COVID. There is always going to be a low level of transmission in the community despite vaccines, masks and bathing in sanitizer. Littles are going to get vaccinated and then there is no excuse to continue with this collective anxiety.

But behave better? I think that's the policy that a certain poster on this board is espousing. Perhaps the best thing we can do is try to get in touch with Biden/Machin and see if they'd be willing to re-purpose the $2T toward basement digging. It'll still be BBB...but, in this case, it'll be Build Better Basements.

Maybe if you stayed in your basement and were more responsible we would not be in this mess. There is no distancing, no hand sanitizer or much else beyond masking at mcps. Biden has handled Covid very poorly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Oh, genius, we have one of thee highest vaccination rates in the country. So, what's the excuse with the numbers being high? We should be down to zero if kids don't get it and vaccines are working. In MD its 86%, so you need a new excuse on why number are still high. Starting with your poor behavior. And, as more get vaccinated, the number of vaccinated covid cases will go up, so then what is your excuse?

Kids do get it, though.

Even in Montgomery County, only 77.5% of the total population is fully vaccinated. If all of the 5-11 population would get vaccinated at the same rate as the 12+ population (91.3%), let alone the 65+ population (97.4%), that would really make a difference in population immunity levels.

Sure, keep telling yourself that. These vaccines are not working that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG enough with the vaccinated get COVID too! The current rate on Maryland is 0.12% of vaccinated people got COVID again. COVID is here to stay. People will continue to get COVID. There is always going to be a low level of transmission in the community despite vaccines, masks and bathing in sanitizer. Littles are going to get vaccinated and then there is no excuse to continue with this collective anxiety.

But behave better? I think that's the policy that a certain poster on this board is espousing. Perhaps the best thing we can do is try to get in touch with Biden/Machin and see if they'd be willing to re-purpose the $2T toward basement digging. It'll still be BBB...but, in this case, it'll be Build Better Basements.

Maybe if you stayed in your basement and were more responsible we would not be in this mess. There is no distancing, no hand sanitizer or much else beyond masking at mcps. Biden has handled Covid very poorly.

Let’s set aside the question of whether it is, or was ever, possible to eradicate Covid. Regardless, you presumably understand we’re not going to. So what’s your plan?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG enough with the vaccinated get COVID too! The current rate on Maryland is 0.12% of vaccinated people got COVID again. COVID is here to stay. People will continue to get COVID. There is always going to be a low level of transmission in the community despite vaccines, masks and bathing in sanitizer. Littles are going to get vaccinated and then there is no excuse to continue with this collective anxiety.

But behave better? I think that's the policy that a certain poster on this board is espousing. Perhaps the best thing we can do is try to get in touch with Biden/Machin and see if they'd be willing to re-purpose the $2T toward basement digging. It'll still be BBB...but, in this case, it'll be Build Better Basements.

Maybe if you stayed in your basement and were more responsible we would not be in this mess. There is no distancing, no hand sanitizer or much else beyond masking at mcps. Biden has handled Covid very poorly.

Let’s set aside the question of whether it is, or was ever, possible to eradicate Covid. Regardless, you presumably understand we’re not going to. So what’s your plan?

Whine from their basement on message boards I think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Oh, genius, we have one of thee highest vaccination rates in the country. So, what's the excuse with the numbers being high? We should be down to zero if kids don't get it and vaccines are working. In MD its 86%, so you need a new excuse on why number are still high. Starting with your poor behavior. And, as more get vaccinated, the number of vaccinated covid cases will go up, so then what is your excuse?

Kids do get it, though.

Even in Montgomery County, only 77.5% of the total population is fully vaccinated. If all of the 5-11 population would get vaccinated at the same rate as the 12+ population (91.3%), let alone the 65+ population (97.4%), that would really make a difference in population immunity levels.

Sure, keep telling yourself that. These vaccines are not working that way.

They are working that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Oh, genius, we have one of thee highest vaccination rates in the country. So, what's the excuse with the numbers being high? We should be down to zero if kids don't get it and vaccines are working. In MD its 86%, so you need a new excuse on why number are still high. Starting with your poor behavior. And, as more get vaccinated, the number of vaccinated covid cases will go up, so then what is your excuse?

Kids do get it, though.

Even in Montgomery County, only 77.5% of the total population is fully vaccinated. If all of the 5-11 population would get vaccinated at the same rate as the 12+ population (91.3%), let alone the 65+ population (97.4%), that would really make a difference in population immunity levels.

Sure, keep telling yourself that. These vaccines are not working that way.

They are working that way.

O, they are not. We need boosters and those vaccinated are getting Covid. It reduces your symptoms should you get Covid. Masking helps stop Covid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG enough with the vaccinated get COVID too! The current rate on Maryland is 0.12% of vaccinated people got COVID again. COVID is here to stay. People will continue to get COVID. There is always going to be a low level of transmission in the community despite vaccines, masks and bathing in sanitizer. Littles are going to get vaccinated and then there is no excuse to continue with this collective anxiety.

But behave better? I think that's the policy that a certain poster on this board is espousing. Perhaps the best thing we can do is try to get in touch with Biden/Machin and see if they'd be willing to re-purpose the $2T toward basement digging. It'll still be BBB...but, in this case, it'll be Build Better Basements.

Maybe if you stayed in your basement and were more responsible we would not be in this mess. There is no distancing, no hand sanitizer or much else beyond masking at mcps. Biden has handled Covid very poorly.

Let’s set aside the question of whether it is, or was ever, possible to eradicate Covid. Regardless, you presumably understand we’re not going to. So what’s your plan?

It is possible but we never tried. Other countries did and were successful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG enough with the vaccinated get COVID too! The current rate on Maryland is 0.12% of vaccinated people got COVID again. COVID is here to stay. People will continue to get COVID. There is always going to be a low level of transmission in the community despite vaccines, masks and bathing in sanitizer. Littles are going to get vaccinated and then there is no excuse to continue with this collective anxiety.

But behave better? I think that's the policy that a certain poster on this board is espousing. Perhaps the best thing we can do is try to get in touch with Biden/Machin and see if they'd be willing to re-purpose the $2T toward basement digging. It'll still be BBB...but, in this case, it'll be Build Better Basements.

Maybe if you stayed in your basement and were more responsible we would not be in this mess. There is no distancing, no hand sanitizer or much else beyond masking at mcps. Biden has handled Covid very poorly.

Let’s set aside the question of whether it is, or was ever, possible to eradicate Covid. Regardless, you presumably understand we’re not going to. So what’s your plan?

Whine from their basement on message boards I think.

What is it with DCUM and basements?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

It is possible but we never tried. Other countries did and were successful.

Which countries have successfully eradicated covid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

O, they are not. We need boosters and those vaccinated are getting Covid. It reduces your symptoms should you get Covid. Masking helps stop Covid.

PP keeps providing vaccine misinformation, and I don't understand why.

Here is what the vaccines do:

1. Greatly reduce your chance of getting infected by SARS-CoV-2
2. Greatly reduce your chance of transmitting, if you get infected
3. Greatly reduce your chance of getting seriously ill, if you get infected
4. Greatly reduce your chance of dying from covid, if you get infected

All 4 things.

And to say the vaccines don't work because we need boosters - that's just plain silly. I hope that PP doesn't forgo their regular tetanus booster.