2022 US News Best National Universities
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Anonymous
Way to sneak in Berkeley lol. |
Anonymous
A very strong undergraduate presence with 1/3 of its undergraduates not matriculated as 18 year olds out of high school? Columbia’s stats are skewed by ignoring a huge minority of students who came through the back door. Those same students in the College of General Studies take classes alongside Columbia College students, so it’s not like they have an entirely separate curriculum. I highly doubt than any other of the top ten undergraduate schools have that high a percentage of alternative students. |
Anonymous
Columbia has been rising over the years. It overtook Harvard, Yale, MIT, and Stanford. People know where it’s headed. When you are the President of the USA, you are gonna be attacked. It comes with the territory. When was the last time someone attacked some obscure undersecretary of some obscure government agency? You go after the #1 guy (or gal). You go after the soon-to-be #1 guy. |
Anonymous
Why blame a school dare to serve disadvantaged students since long time ago while other elite schools only catered to upper-class WASP descendants, with only tinny programs for veterans to claim their social justice. |
Anonymous
Also, Columbia was the only ivy that didn’t discriminate against the Jewish students in 1920s, 1930s. A lot of hatred from the WASPs come from this fact. Even Donald Trump said Columbia is a “liberal, disgraceful institution.” |
Anonymous
| Why are Wf and Uf above boston college? where is BC? |
Anonymous
They used to argue whether Stanford should be included in the HYP acronym in the 2000s when the internet just started, and Silicon Valley was in its infancy... Rankings and prestige are all relative. |
Anonymous
Harvard has about 1,000 students enrolled in its extension school. Penn has a college of liberal studies, but they decline to publish the # of students. Just fyi, most of the students enrolled in GS are actually veterans (and it was set up precisely for this reason) who spilled blood for this country to protect your pathetic, lazy asses so that you can disparage them anonymously on this forum. Say that in front their faces, I dare you. |
Anonymous
Because Stanford hasn't been a prestigious, hard to gain entry school for a century.
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Anonymous
No, it has not diminished the Columbia brand name in the slightest. It does make Columbia a very respectable institution nonetheless for accepting all those veterans, as PP suggested. I looked up the stats and 21% of GS are actually veterans, not your random high-school dropouts. And GS students are admitted through a rigorous selection process like regular college students, unlike Harvard Extension School. |
Anonymous
And one that have produced tons of Nobel prize laureates, billionaires, a US President, dozens of cabinet members, National Humanities Medal, National Medal of Sciences, Academy Awards, Pulitzer Prize recipients, you name it, despite not having as strong an upper-class WASP aura as HYP. Also the school has become a lot WASPier and preppier in the 2000s than the 1920s. I remember that a few of the Whitneys, du Ponts, and Rockefellers went there for undergrad in the 2000s. Also a few Pritzkers, Sacklers, the Ziff brothers and the Sulzbergers who own the New York Times. Plenty of international wealth too. Definitely a top school for the upper-class, but also a lot more socioeconomically diverse than other ivies. |
Anonymous
| Are the extension students at Harvard taking classes alongside Harvard College students? It’s doubtful many are since 70% of the courses are given online. I think it’s wonderful that Columbia allows 1/3 of its undergraduates to be non traditional students and in classrooms with those brilliant 18 year olds. USNWR rewards them for this as well, by not reporting the huge percentage of students entering without the stellar grades and scores. |
Anonymous
Yes, they are. HES students can sit in for the same in-person classes as Harvard College students, as well as online classes. About 1,000 sit in for a ALB degree. Harvard does not report this data, neither does Penn, which awards bachelor degrees to nontraditional students through the School of Liberal and Professional Studies. |
Anonymous
| I'm guessing the poster waxing so eloquent about Columbia is the same poster who has fetishized the fraternities there (like St. A's) and at other Ivies It's a bit much (and I say this as someone with a Columbia degree). |
Anonymous
I’m sure that the vast majority are taking mostly online classes however. Be it as it may, Columbia brings it to a whole new level. 1/3 of its undergraduates in the SGS! |