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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think it’s cute that Columbia, which is overwhelmingly a graduate/professional university, has ascended to the near top at USNWR. It is a superlative school for sure, but definitely has benefited by playing into the criteria used by that ranking system. [/quote] No idea what this means since everyone knows that Columbia has a very strong undergraduate presence [/quote] A very strong undergraduate presence with 1/3 of its undergraduates not matriculated as 18 year olds out of high school? Columbia’s stats are skewed by ignoring a huge minority of students who came through the back door. Those same students in the College of General Studies take classes alongside Columbia College students, so it’s not like they have an entirely separate curriculum. I highly doubt than any other of the top ten undergraduate schools have that high a percentage of alternative students. [/quote] Why blame a school dare to serve disadvantaged students since long time ago while other elite schools only catered to upper-class WASP descendants, with only tinny programs for veterans to claim their social justice.[/quote] And one that have produced tons of Nobel prize laureates, billionaires, a US President, dozens of cabinet members, National Humanities Medal, National Medal of Sciences, Academy Awards, Pulitzer Prize recipients, you name it, despite not having as strong an upper-class WASP aura as HYP. Also the school has become a lot WASPier and preppier in the 2000s than the 1920s. I remember that a few of the Whitneys, du Ponts, and Rockefellers went there for undergrad in the 2000s. Also a few Pritzkers, Sacklers, the Ziff brothers and the Sulzbergers who own the [i]New York Times[/i]. Plenty of international wealth too. Definitely a top school for the upper-class, but also a lot more socioeconomically diverse than other ivies.[/quote]
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