Savannah Guthrie’s mom is missing, suspect kidnapping

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Anonymous wrote:House is worth plenty. Land too.


Nobody would have her kidnapped to get the house. The house still belongs to her right now, so it can’t be sold. Plus it’s an active crime scene and will be for a while. And it’s all over the news and notorious.
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Tire tracks pic:

https://websleuths.com/attachments/screenshot_2026-02-19-03-01-58-606-webp.646569/

Could be a walker, a wheelbarrow, a dragged suitcase or something else?
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Anonymous wrote:Tire tracks pic:

https://websleuths.com/attachments/screenshot_2026-02-19-03-01-58-606-webp.646569/

Could be a walker, a wheelbarrow, a dragged suitcase or something else?


There’s no way a walker was wheeled down gravel.
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Anonymous wrote:Tire tracks pic:

https://websleuths.com/attachments/screenshot_2026-02-19-03-01-58-606-webp.646569/

Could be a walker, a wheelbarrow, a dragged suitcase or something else?


How do you know those were not put there later by law enforcement? Seems like someone is walking right over all the 'tracks."
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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the amount of resources being applied to this investigation


On the news this morning it was stated 400 people are searching. That’s crazy.


It’s beyond crazy. How many crimes aren’t being prevented or investigated and solved because of the resources being deployed to investigate the disappearance of an 84 year old woman who is likely died or was killed the not long after she disappeared.

It’s kind of gross really. This country has a serious case of misplaced priorities.


Have you considered that the kind of person who would kidnap an elderly person from her home is a very dangerous person who should be locked up?


No doubt but all kidnappers are dangerous and many others (namely children) are kidnapped every day and don’t get even half the attention or resource. Savannah knows who did this. The cops should take a look at her correspondence. This screams shakedown. She was probably asked for money prior to this and when the demands weren’t met, an extreme was taken. I believe based on her mannerisms and commentary in her videos she knows who did this.


All of your ASSumptions are completely gross. Leave this poor woman and her family alone.
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No, we should not leave them alone. The family should be the first suspect. You and the starry eyed sheriff are so in love with the family. Occam’s razor says the family did this


No…Occam’s razor says it was a stranger. For the family to be involved, there are a whole lot of circumstances that you would need to assume.


This. It’s not family or inheritance related bc family would just pretend she died in her sleep. There is no incentive to go through a kidnapping and the attention it brings if family. If it’s inheritance related, again, kidnapping makes no sense because the person is still assumed alive and there is no inheritance.


Pretend she died in her sleep how? They would need to suffocate her for that or poison her and that would show up on an autopsy. They’d get in trouble. Assuming this is about insurance policy, insurers demand autopsies when cause of death is unclear


Why do you think they would do an autopsy on a sickly 84 yr old?


Exactly. Autopsies are expensive and she had serious heart issues, limited mobility, and required medication to survive.


They’re not as expensive as paying out a policy and insurance companies will demand that or a post mortem if cause of death is unclear. She also had a pacemaker which would’ve recorded an elevated heart rate/suffocation. There’s no way she could have been killed quietly in her sleep. The kidnapping needed to happen so she was moved away from her phone (that was tracking her pacemakers /hearts activity). Her medication was not taken so we know the kidnapper did not care about keeping her alive and getting ransom. Whoever did this ensured all ducks were in a row: disabled the front door camera, no tire tracks, no dna, phone and medication still at home, no burglary, no sign of forced entry


I don’t think the pacemakers update continuously in that way. I think it updated periodically, so if she was killed after the last update and then moved out of range, it wouldn’t show.
I wish people would stop saying the thing about tire racks. The only way you get tire tracks on rock driveways is if you peel out with crazy accleratkon/turn. Nothing here is inconsistent with a burglary gone wrong. My guess is she got up suddenly hearing the person and either he hit her or she fell and broke her neck because she didn’t have her walker. No dna because the burglar had his hands and hair covered.


She used a hearing aid and she didn’t wear it when asleep. It’s possible she didn’t hear the burglar at all.

I’m assuming the front door or back door (one of the doors was unlocked) because the intruder did not break down any door or hold an item in his hand to break down a door. It’s as if they knew the door was unlocked, knew where the camera would be, and knew he could enter safely without worrying about additional cameras in the house. Someone prepped this guy and someone entered the garage as his getaway driver.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the amount of resources being applied to this investigation


On the news this morning it was stated 400 people are searching. That’s crazy.


It’s beyond crazy. How many crimes aren’t being prevented or investigated and solved because of the resources being deployed to investigate the disappearance of an 84 year old woman who is likely died or was killed the not long after she disappeared.

It’s kind of gross really. This country has a serious case of misplaced priorities.


Have you considered that the kind of person who would kidnap an elderly person from her home is a very dangerous person who should be locked up?


No doubt but all kidnappers are dangerous and many others (namely children) are kidnapped every day and don’t get even half the attention or resource. Savannah knows who did this. The cops should take a look at her correspondence. This screams shakedown. She was probably asked for money prior to this and when the demands weren’t met, an extreme was taken. I believe based on her mannerisms and commentary in her videos she knows who did this.


All of your ASSumptions are completely gross. Leave this poor woman and her family alone.
DP


No, we should not leave them alone. The family should be the first suspect. You and the starry eyed sheriff are so in love with the family. Occam’s razor says the family did this


No…Occam’s razor says it was a stranger. For the family to be involved, there are a whole lot of circumstances that you would need to assume.


This. It’s not family or inheritance related bc family would just pretend she died in her sleep. There is no incentive to go through a kidnapping and the attention it brings if family. If it’s inheritance related, again, kidnapping makes no sense because the person is still assumed alive and there is no inheritance.


Pretend she died in her sleep how? They would need to suffocate her for that or poison her and that would show up on an autopsy. They’d get in trouble. Assuming this is about insurance policy, insurers demand autopsies when cause of death is unclear


Why do you think they would do an autopsy on a sickly 84 yr old?


Exactly. Autopsies are expensive and she had serious heart issues, limited mobility, and required medication to survive.


They’re not as expensive as paying out a policy and insurance companies will demand that or a post mortem if cause of death is unclear. She also had a pacemaker which would’ve recorded an elevated heart rate/suffocation. There’s no way she could have been killed quietly in her sleep. The kidnapping needed to happen so she was moved away from her phone (that was tracking her pacemakers /hearts activity). Her medication was not taken so we know the kidnapper did not care about keeping her alive and getting ransom. Whoever did this ensured all ducks were in a row: disabled the front door camera, no tire tracks, no dna, phone and medication still at home, no burglary, no sign of forced entry


I don’t think the pacemakers update continuously in that way. I think it updated periodically, so if she was killed after the last update and then moved out of range, it wouldn’t show.
I wish people would stop saying the thing about tire racks. The only way you get tire tracks on rock driveways is if you peel out with crazy accleratkon/turn. Nothing here is inconsistent with a burglary gone wrong. My guess is she got up suddenly hearing the person and either he hit her or she fell and broke her neck because she didn’t have her walker. No dna because the burglar had his hands and hair covered.


She used a hearing aid and she didn’t wear it when asleep. It’s possible she didn’t hear the burglar at all.

I’m assuming the front door or back door (one of the doors was unlocked) because the intruder did not break down any door or hold an item in his hand to break down a door. It’s as if they knew the door was unlocked, knew where the camera would be, and knew he could enter safely without worrying about additional cameras in the house. Someone prepped this guy and someone entered the garage as his getaway driver.


For someone who "knew where the camera would be" and knew there was a camera, the perp sure seemed surprised and bumbled around. Also, putting plants over a camera instead of bringing something to block it?
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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the amount of resources being applied to this investigation


On the news this morning it was stated 400 people are searching. That’s crazy.


It’s beyond crazy. How many crimes aren’t being prevented or investigated and solved because of the resources being deployed to investigate the disappearance of an 84 year old woman who is likely died or was killed the not long after she disappeared.

It’s kind of gross really. This country has a serious case of misplaced priorities.


Have you considered that the kind of person who would kidnap an elderly person from her home is a very dangerous person who should be locked up?


No doubt but all kidnappers are dangerous and many others (namely children) are kidnapped every day and don’t get even half the attention or resource. Savannah knows who did this. The cops should take a look at her correspondence. This screams shakedown. She was probably asked for money prior to this and when the demands weren’t met, an extreme was taken. I believe based on her mannerisms and commentary in her videos she knows who did this.


All of your ASSumptions are completely gross. Leave this poor woman and her family alone.
DP


No, we should not leave them alone. The family should be the first suspect. You and the starry eyed sheriff are so in love with the family. Occam’s razor says the family did this


No…Occam’s razor says it was a stranger. For the family to be involved, there are a whole lot of circumstances that you would need to assume.


This. It’s not family or inheritance related bc family would just pretend she died in her sleep. There is no incentive to go through a kidnapping and the attention it brings if family. If it’s inheritance related, again, kidnapping makes no sense because the person is still assumed alive and there is no inheritance.


Pretend she died in her sleep how? They would need to suffocate her for that or poison her and that would show up on an autopsy. They’d get in trouble. Assuming this is about insurance policy, insurers demand autopsies when cause of death is unclear


Why do you think they would do an autopsy on a sickly 84 yr old?


Exactly. Autopsies are expensive and she had serious heart issues, limited mobility, and required medication to survive.


They’re not as expensive as paying out a policy and insurance companies will demand that or a post mortem if cause of death is unclear. She also had a pacemaker which would’ve recorded an elevated heart rate/suffocation. There’s no way she could have been killed quietly in her sleep. The kidnapping needed to happen so she was moved away from her phone (that was tracking her pacemakers /hearts activity). Her medication was not taken so we know the kidnapper did not care about keeping her alive and getting ransom. Whoever did this ensured all ducks were in a row: disabled the front door camera, no tire tracks, no dna, phone and medication still at home, no burglary, no sign of forced entry


I don’t think the pacemakers update continuously in that way. I think it updated periodically, so if she was killed after the last update and then moved out of range, it wouldn’t show.
I wish people would stop saying the thing about tire racks. The only way you get tire tracks on rock driveways is if you peel out with crazy accleratkon/turn. Nothing here is inconsistent with a burglary gone wrong. My guess is she got up suddenly hearing the person and either he hit her or she fell and broke her neck because she didn’t have her walker. No dna because the burglar had his hands and hair covered.


She used a hearing aid and she didn’t wear it when asleep. It’s possible she didn’t hear the burglar at all.

I’m assuming the front door or back door (one of the doors was unlocked) because the intruder did not break down any door or hold an item in his hand to break down a door. It’s as if they knew the door was unlocked, knew where the camera would be, and knew he could enter safely without worrying about additional cameras in the house. Someone prepped this guy and someone entered the garage as his getaway driver.


For someone who "knew where the camera would be" and knew there was a camera, the perp sure seemed surprised and bumbled around. Also, putting plants over a camera instead of bringing something to block it?


That could have been part of the ruse. Make it appear it wasn’t pre meditated. Notice the man walked funny too, head down on purpose to throw off being recognized. Now he’s also going to pretend he’s surprised by the camera. lol.
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Anonymous wrote:This is gonna end up being like that Liane Moriarty book (spoilers) where the mom was never kidnapped or killed, she went on a tech free spa retreat and the note she left her family got thrown out by mistake.


No girl. She was with family until 9:30pm and had plans the next morning with friends.


It is possible she was never dropped off at home after the so-called "dinner" with daughter and son-in-law.


No it's not. They have video, gps and phone ping location that shows where everyone was at what time. That's why the sheriff considers them cleared.


Not true. The Sheriff himself said lie detector tests.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the amount of resources being applied to this investigation


On the news this morning it was stated 400 people are searching. That’s crazy.


It’s beyond crazy. How many crimes aren’t being prevented or investigated and solved because of the resources being deployed to investigate the disappearance of an 84 year old woman who is likely died or was killed the not long after she disappeared.

It’s kind of gross really. This country has a serious case of misplaced priorities.


Have you considered that the kind of person who would kidnap an elderly person from her home is a very dangerous person who should be locked up?


No doubt but all kidnappers are dangerous and many others (namely children) are kidnapped every day and don’t get even half the attention or resource. Savannah knows who did this. The cops should take a look at her correspondence. This screams shakedown. She was probably asked for money prior to this and when the demands weren’t met, an extreme was taken. I believe based on her mannerisms and commentary in her videos she knows who did this.


All of your ASSumptions are completely gross. Leave this poor woman and her family alone.
DP


No, we should not leave them alone. The family should be the first suspect. You and the starry eyed sheriff are so in love with the family. Occam’s razor says the family did this


No…Occam’s razor says it was a stranger. For the family to be involved, there are a whole lot of circumstances that you would need to assume.


This. It’s not family or inheritance related bc family would just pretend she died in her sleep. There is no incentive to go through a kidnapping and the attention it brings if family. If it’s inheritance related, again, kidnapping makes no sense because the person is still assumed alive and there is no inheritance.


Pretend she died in her sleep how? They would need to suffocate her for that or poison her and that would show up on an autopsy. They’d get in trouble. Assuming this is about insurance policy, insurers demand autopsies when cause of death is unclear


Why do you think they would do an autopsy on a sickly 84 yr old?


Exactly. Autopsies are expensive and she had serious heart issues, limited mobility, and required medication to survive.


They’re not as expensive as paying out a policy and insurance companies will demand that or a post mortem if cause of death is unclear. She also had a pacemaker which would’ve recorded an elevated heart rate/suffocation. There’s no way she could have been killed quietly in her sleep. The kidnapping needed to happen so she was moved away from her phone (that was tracking her pacemakers /hearts activity). Her medication was not taken so we know the kidnapper did not care about keeping her alive and getting ransom. Whoever did this ensured all ducks were in a row: disabled the front door camera, no tire tracks, no dna, phone and medication still at home, no burglary, no sign of forced entry


I don’t think the pacemakers update continuously in that way. I think it updated periodically, so if she was killed after the last update and then moved out of range, it wouldn’t show.
I wish people would stop saying the thing about tire racks. The only way you get tire tracks on rock driveways is if you peel out with crazy accleratkon/turn. Nothing here is inconsistent with a burglary gone wrong. My guess is she got up suddenly hearing the person and either he hit her or she fell and broke her neck because she didn’t have her walker. No dna because the burglar had his hands and hair covered.


She used a hearing aid and she didn’t wear it when asleep. It’s possible she didn’t hear the burglar at all.

I’m assuming the front door or back door (one of the doors was unlocked) because the intruder did not break down any door or hold an item in his hand to break down a door. It’s as if they knew the door was unlocked, knew where the camera would be, and knew he could enter safely without worrying about additional cameras in the house. Someone prepped this guy and someone entered the garage as his getaway driver.


For someone who "knew where the camera would be" and knew there was a camera, the perp sure seemed surprised and bumbled around. Also, putting plants over a camera instead of bringing something to block it?


That could have been part of the ruse. Make it appear it wasn’t pre meditated. Notice the man walked funny too, head down on purpose to throw off being recognized. Now he’s also going to pretend he’s surprised by the camera. lol.


Different anon but I dont know about that theory tbh. He may have assumed there was a camera somewhere since most have them but wasn't actually prepared to deal with one.
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On the news this morning it was stated 400 people are searching. That’s crazy.


It’s beyond crazy. How many crimes aren’t being prevented or investigated and solved because of the resources being deployed to investigate the disappearance of an 84 year old woman who is likely died or was killed the not long after she disappeared.

It’s kind of gross really. This country has a serious case of misplaced priorities.


Have you considered that the kind of person who would kidnap an elderly person from her home is a very dangerous person who should be locked up?


No doubt but all kidnappers are dangerous and many others (namely children) are kidnapped every day and don’t get even half the attention or resource. Savannah knows who did this. The cops should take a look at her correspondence. This screams shakedown. She was probably asked for money prior to this and when the demands weren’t met, an extreme was taken. I believe based on her mannerisms and commentary in her videos she knows who did this.


All of your ASSumptions are completely gross. Leave this poor woman and her family alone.
DP


No, we should not leave them alone. The family should be the first suspect. You and the starry eyed sheriff are so in love with the family. Occam’s razor says the family did this


No…Occam’s razor says it was a stranger. For the family to be involved, there are a whole lot of circumstances that you would need to assume.


This. It’s not family or inheritance related bc family would just pretend she died in her sleep. There is no incentive to go through a kidnapping and the attention it brings if family. If it’s inheritance related, again, kidnapping makes no sense because the person is still assumed alive and there is no inheritance.


Pretend she died in her sleep how? They would need to suffocate her for that or poison her and that would show up on an autopsy. They’d get in trouble. Assuming this is about insurance policy, insurers demand autopsies when cause of death is unclear


Why do you think they would do an autopsy on a sickly 84 yr old?


Exactly. Autopsies are expensive and she had serious heart issues, limited mobility, and required medication to survive.


They’re not as expensive as paying out a policy and insurance companies will demand that or a post mortem if cause of death is unclear. She also had a pacemaker which would’ve recorded an elevated heart rate/suffocation. There’s no way she could have been killed quietly in her sleep. The kidnapping needed to happen so she was moved away from her phone (that was tracking her pacemakers /hearts activity). Her medication was not taken so we know the kidnapper did not care about keeping her alive and getting ransom. Whoever did this ensured all ducks were in a row: disabled the front door camera, no tire tracks, no dna, phone and medication still at home, no burglary, no sign of forced entry


I don’t think the pacemakers update continuously in that way. I think it updated periodically, so if she was killed after the last update and then moved out of range, it wouldn’t show.
I wish people would stop saying the thing about tire racks. The only way you get tire tracks on rock driveways is if you peel out with crazy accleratkon/turn. Nothing here is inconsistent with a burglary gone wrong. My guess is she got up suddenly hearing the person and either he hit her or she fell and broke her neck because she didn’t have her walker. No dna because the burglar had his hands and hair covered.


She used a hearing aid and she didn’t wear it when asleep. It’s possible she didn’t hear the burglar at all.

I’m assuming the front door or back door (one of the doors was unlocked) because the intruder did not break down any door or hold an item in his hand to break down a door. It’s as if they knew the door was unlocked, knew where the camera would be, and knew he could enter safely without worrying about additional cameras in the house. Someone prepped this guy and someone entered the garage as his getaway driver.


For someone who "knew where the camera would be" and knew there was a camera, the perp sure seemed surprised and bumbled around. Also, putting plants over a camera instead of bringing something to block it?


Well, that “bumbling” perp vanished into thin air without a trace. I doubt this was an amateur despite the appearance of the man in the video
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The fact that nobody recognizes him, where perpetrators have been caught with less images, makes me wonder if he is not from here
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Anonymous wrote:The fact that nobody recognizes him, where perpetrators have been caught with less images, makes me wonder if he is not from here

You mean like an alien, the top secret government kind that doesn't exist?
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Anonymous wrote:The fact that nobody recognizes him, where perpetrators have been caught with less images, makes me wonder if he is not from here

You mean like an alien, the top secret government kind that doesn't exist?


New pp but video could be AI.
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According to an excerpt from Guthrie's 2024 book in childhood, they used to play a pretend kidnapping game, and the mother would play along. I do not know anyone who pretended to be kidnapped for pretend play, do you? That childhood story does not age well.

https://parade.com/news/savannah-guthrie-memoir-childhood-kidnappings-nancy-missing

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that nobody recognizes him, where perpetrators have been caught with less images, makes me wonder if he is not from here

At first people said his eyes looked like the BIL's eyes. Then they said his bandmate who has a record looked like the eyes and body type.

Then Carlos the delivery driver was accused of matching the porch guy. When he was released, they raided Luke Daley's house and detained him. Some said his friend Kayla might be related to Nancy, but they also said Luke had the same eyes and he is a felon. Some speculated maybe the porch person was Kayla because the eyelashes looked feminine.

So it's kind of the opposite - people think everyone looks like the porch guy. Wouldn't you hesitate to turn in your cousin because his eyes look similar and he is really innocent?
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