Savannah Guthrie’s mom is missing, suspect kidnapping

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Anonymous wrote:The only explanation that makes sense is that Trump is behind this. Full stop. Attacking family is what he does. Go back and watch the Town Hall where she annihilated him. That is the exact type of thing he gets revenge on. For him to offer sympathy and research to someone who has burned him multiple times is just not something he does. Compare this to his response to Reiner’s death where he basically said they deserved it for speaking out against him. Savannah has done far more damage to him than they did. It was him. Nothing else makes sense. His goons lured her to the door, grabbed her and threw her in a vehicle. After seeing the Trump/Epstein files and knowing what they are capable of, it makes me sick to think what happened after that.

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Maybe she took a cruise and has bad cell phone service.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the amount of resources being applied to this investigation

On the news this morning it was stated 400 people are searching. That’s crazy.

It’s beyond crazy. How many crimes aren’t being prevented or investigated and solved because of the resources being deployed to investigate the disappearance of an 84 year old woman who is likely died or was killed the not long after she disappeared.

It’s kind of gross really. This country has a serious case of misplaced priorities.

Have you considered that the kind of person who would kidnap an elderly person from her home is a very dangerous person who should be locked up?

No doubt but all kidnappers are dangerous and many others (namely children) are kidnapped every day and don’t get even half the attention or resource. Savannah knows who did this. The cops should take a look at her correspondence. This screams shakedown. She was probably asked for money prior to this and when the demands weren’t met, an extreme was taken. I believe based on her mannerisms and commentary in her videos she knows who did this.

All of your ASSumptions are completely gross. Leave this poor woman and her family alone.
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No, we should not leave them alone. The family should be the first suspect. You and the starry eyed sheriff are so in love with the family. Occam’s razor says the family did this

No…Occam’s razor says it was a stranger. For the family to be involved, there are a whole lot of circumstances that you would need to assume.

This. It’s not family or inheritance related bc family would just pretend she died in her sleep. There is no incentive to go through a kidnapping and the attention it brings if family. If it’s inheritance related, again, kidnapping makes no sense because the person is still assumed alive and there is no inheritance.

Pretend she died in her sleep how? They would need to suffocate her for that or poison her and that would show up on an autopsy. They’d get in trouble. Assuming this is about insurance policy, insurers demand autopsies when cause of death is unclear

Why do you think they would do an autopsy on a sickly 84 yr old?

Exactly. Autopsies are expensive and she had serious heart issues, limited mobility, and required medication to survive.

They’re not as expensive as paying out a policy and insurance companies will demand that or a post mortem if cause of death is unclear. She also had a pacemaker which would’ve recorded an elevated heart rate/suffocation. There’s no way she could have been killed quietly in her sleep. The kidnapping needed to happen so she was moved away from her phone (that was tracking her pacemakers /hearts activity). Her medication was not taken so we know the kidnapper did not care about keeping her alive and getting ransom. Whoever did this ensured all ducks were in a row: disabled the front door camera, no tire tracks, no dna, phone and medication still at home, no burglary, no sign of forced entry

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This is gonna end up being like that Liane Moriarty book (spoilers) where the mom was never kidnapped or killed, she went on a tech free spa retreat and the note she left her family got thrown out by mistake.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the amount of resources being applied to this investigation

On the news this morning it was stated 400 people are searching. That’s crazy.

It’s beyond crazy. How many crimes aren’t being prevented or investigated and solved because of the resources being deployed to investigate the disappearance of an 84 year old woman who is likely died or was killed the not long after she disappeared.

It’s kind of gross really. This country has a serious case of misplaced priorities.

Have you considered that the kind of person who would kidnap an elderly person from her home is a very dangerous person who should be locked up?

No doubt but all kidnappers are dangerous and many others (namely children) are kidnapped every day and don’t get even half the attention or resource. Savannah knows who did this. The cops should take a look at her correspondence. This screams shakedown. She was probably asked for money prior to this and when the demands weren’t met, an extreme was taken. I believe based on her mannerisms and commentary in her videos she knows who did this.

All of your ASSumptions are completely gross. Leave this poor woman and her family alone.
DP

No, we should not leave them alone. The family should be the first suspect. You and the starry eyed sheriff are so in love with the family. Occam’s razor says the family did this

No…Occam’s razor says it was a stranger. For the family to be involved, there are a whole lot of circumstances that you would need to assume.

This. It’s not family or inheritance related bc family would just pretend she died in her sleep. There is no incentive to go through a kidnapping and the attention it brings if family. If it’s inheritance related, again, kidnapping makes no sense because the person is still assumed alive and there is no inheritance.

Pretend she died in her sleep how? They would need to suffocate her for that or poison her and that would show up on an autopsy. They’d get in trouble. Assuming this is about insurance policy, insurers demand autopsies when cause of death is unclear

Why do you think they would do an autopsy on a sickly 84 yr old?

Exactly. Autopsies are expensive and she had serious heart issues, limited mobility, and required medication to survive.

They’re not as expensive as paying out a policy and insurance companies will demand that or a post mortem if cause of death is unclear. She also had a pacemaker which would’ve recorded an elevated heart rate/suffocation. There’s no way she could have been killed quietly in her sleep. The kidnapping needed to happen so she was moved away from her phone (that was tracking her pacemakers /hearts activity). Her medication was not taken so we know the kidnapper did not care about keeping her alive and getting ransom. Whoever did this ensured all ducks were in a row: disabled the front door camera, no tire tracks, no dna, phone and medication still at home, no burglary, no sign of forced entry

What kind of life insurance do you think an 84 yr old has? Her life wasn't worth much at that point.

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Anonymous wrote:Savannah said in one video that they would pay, yet no ransom was paid and she hasn't been returned. Were all ransom requests determined to be fake?

Has any reliable news source reported that no ransom was paid?

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Anonymous wrote:This is gonna end up being like that Liane Moriarty book (spoilers) where the mom was never kidnapped or killed, she went on a tech free spa retreat and the note she left her family got thrown out by mistake.

No girl. She was with family until 9:30pm and had plans the next morning with friends.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the amount of resources being applied to this investigation

On the news this morning it was stated 400 people are searching. That’s crazy.

It’s beyond crazy. How many crimes aren’t being prevented or investigated and solved because of the resources being deployed to investigate the disappearance of an 84 year old woman who is likely died or was killed the not long after she disappeared.

It’s kind of gross really. This country has a serious case of misplaced priorities.

Have you considered that the kind of person who would kidnap an elderly person from her home is a very dangerous person who should be locked up?

No doubt but all kidnappers are dangerous and many others (namely children) are kidnapped every day and don’t get even half the attention or resource. Savannah knows who did this. The cops should take a look at her correspondence. This screams shakedown. She was probably asked for money prior to this and when the demands weren’t met, an extreme was taken. I believe based on her mannerisms and commentary in her videos she knows who did this.

All of your ASSumptions are completely gross. Leave this poor woman and her family alone.
DP

No, we should not leave them alone. The family should be the first suspect. You and the starry eyed sheriff are so in love with the family. Occam’s razor says the family did this

No…Occam’s razor says it was a stranger. For the family to be involved, there are a whole lot of circumstances that you would need to assume.

This. It’s not family or inheritance related bc family would just pretend she died in her sleep. There is no incentive to go through a kidnapping and the attention it brings if family. If it’s inheritance related, again, kidnapping makes no sense because the person is still assumed alive and there is no inheritance.

Pretend she died in her sleep how? They would need to suffocate her for that or poison her and that would show up on an autopsy. They’d get in trouble. Assuming this is about insurance policy, insurers demand autopsies when cause of death is unclear

Why do you think they would do an autopsy on a sickly 84 yr old?

Exactly. Autopsies are expensive and she had serious heart issues, limited mobility, and required medication to survive.

They’re not as expensive as paying out a policy and insurance companies will demand that or a post mortem if cause of death is unclear. She also had a pacemaker which would’ve recorded an elevated heart rate/suffocation. There’s no way she could have been killed quietly in her sleep. The kidnapping needed to happen so she was moved away from her phone (that was tracking her pacemakers /hearts activity). Her medication was not taken so we know the kidnapper did not care about keeping her alive and getting ransom. Whoever did this ensured all ducks were in a row: disabled the front door camera, no tire tracks, no dna, phone and medication still at home, no burglary, no sign of forced entry

What kind of life insurance do you think an 84 yr old has? Her life wasn't worth much at that point.

Exactly. If she had life insurance, it probably would only have been a small burial/final expenses type policy which would not be enough to kill someone over and not require any sort of medical or autopsy.

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House is worth plenty. Land too.

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Anonymous wrote:The only explanation that makes sense is that Trump is behind this. Full stop. Attacking family is what he does. Go back and watch the Town Hall where she annihilated him. That is the exact type of thing he gets revenge on. For him to offer sympathy and research to someone who has burned him multiple times is just not something he does. Compare this to his response to Reiner’s death where he basically said they deserved it for speaking out against him. Savannah has done far more damage to him than they did. It was him. Nothing else makes sense. His goons lured her to the door, grabbed her and threw her in a vehicle. After seeing the Trump/Epstein files and knowing what they are capable of, it makes me sick to think what happened after that.

I’m no trump fan, but you have lost your mind.

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Report the deranged posters. They’re just wasting people’s time and taking up space.

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Anonymous wrote:This is gonna end up being like that Liane Moriarty book (spoilers) where the mom was never kidnapped or killed, she went on a tech free spa retreat and the note she left her family got thrown out by mistake.

No girl. She was with family until 9:30pm and had plans the next morning with friends.

It is possible she was never dropped off at home after the so-called "dinner" with daughter and son-in-law.

No it's not. They have video, gps and phone ping location that shows where everyone was at what time. That's why the sheriff considers them cleared.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the amount of resources being applied to this investigation

On the news this morning it was stated 400 people are searching. That’s crazy.

It’s beyond crazy. How many crimes aren’t being prevented or investigated and solved because of the resources being deployed to investigate the disappearance of an 84 year old woman who is likely died or was killed the not long after she disappeared.

It’s kind of gross really. This country has a serious case of misplaced priorities.

Have you considered that the kind of person who would kidnap an elderly person from her home is a very dangerous person who should be locked up?

No doubt but all kidnappers are dangerous and many others (namely children) are kidnapped every day and don’t get even half the attention or resource. Savannah knows who did this. The cops should take a look at her correspondence. This screams shakedown. She was probably asked for money prior to this and when the demands weren’t met, an extreme was taken. I believe based on her mannerisms and commentary in her videos she knows who did this.

All of your ASSumptions are completely gross. Leave this poor woman and her family alone.
DP

No, we should not leave them alone. The family should be the first suspect. You and the starry eyed sheriff are so in love with the family. Occam’s razor says the family did this

No…Occam’s razor says it was a stranger. For the family to be involved, there are a whole lot of circumstances that you would need to assume.

This. It’s not family or inheritance related bc family would just pretend she died in her sleep. There is no incentive to go through a kidnapping and the attention it brings if family. If it’s inheritance related, again, kidnapping makes no sense because the person is still assumed alive and there is no inheritance.

Pretend she died in her sleep how? They would need to suffocate her for that or poison her and that would show up on an autopsy. They’d get in trouble. Assuming this is about insurance policy, insurers demand autopsies when cause of death is unclear

Why do you think they would do an autopsy on a sickly 84 yr old?

Exactly. Autopsies are expensive and she had serious heart issues, limited mobility, and required medication to survive.

They’re not as expensive as paying out a policy and insurance companies will demand that or a post mortem if cause of death is unclear. She also had a pacemaker which would’ve recorded an elevated heart rate/suffocation. There’s no way she could have been killed quietly in her sleep. The kidnapping needed to happen so she was moved away from her phone (that was tracking her pacemakers /hearts activity). Her medication was not taken so we know the kidnapper did not care about keeping her alive and getting ransom. Whoever did this ensured all ducks were in a row: disabled the front door camera, no tire tracks, no dna, phone and medication still at home, no burglary, no sign of forced entry

I don’t think the pacemakers update continuously in that way. I think it updated periodically, so if she was killed after the last update and then moved out of range, it wouldn’t show.
I wish people would stop saying the thing about tire racks. The only way you get tire tracks on rock driveways is if you peel out with crazy accleratkon/turn. Nothing here is inconsistent with a burglary gone wrong. My guess is she got up suddenly hearing the person and either he hit her or she fell and broke her neck because she didn’t have her walker. No dna because the burglar had his hands and hair covered.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the amount of resources being applied to this investigation

On the news this morning it was stated 400 people are searching. That’s crazy.

It’s beyond crazy. How many crimes aren’t being prevented or investigated and solved because of the resources being deployed to investigate the disappearance of an 84 year old woman who is likely died or was killed the not long after she disappeared.

It’s kind of gross really. This country has a serious case of misplaced priorities.

Have you considered that the kind of person who would kidnap an elderly person from her home is a very dangerous person who should be locked up?

No doubt but all kidnappers are dangerous and many others (namely children) are kidnapped every day and don’t get even half the attention or resource. Savannah knows who did this. The cops should take a look at her correspondence. This screams shakedown. She was probably asked for money prior to this and when the demands weren’t met, an extreme was taken. I believe based on her mannerisms and commentary in her videos she knows who did this.

All of your ASSumptions are completely gross. Leave this poor woman and her family alone.
DP

No, we should not leave them alone. The family should be the first suspect. You and the starry eyed sheriff are so in love with the family. Occam’s razor says the family did this

No…Occam’s razor says it was a stranger. For the family to be involved, there are a whole lot of circumstances that you would need to assume.

This. It’s not family or inheritance related bc family would just pretend she died in her sleep. There is no incentive to go through a kidnapping and the attention it brings if family. If it’s inheritance related, again, kidnapping makes no sense because the person is still assumed alive and there is no inheritance.

Pretend she died in her sleep how? They would need to suffocate her for that or poison her and that would show up on an autopsy. They’d get in trouble. Assuming this is about insurance policy, insurers demand autopsies when cause of death is unclear

Why do you think they would do an autopsy on a sickly 84 yr old?

Exactly. Autopsies are expensive and she had serious heart issues, limited mobility, and required medication to survive.

They’re not as expensive as paying out a policy and insurance companies will demand that or a post mortem if cause of death is unclear. She also had a pacemaker which would’ve recorded an elevated heart rate/suffocation. There’s no way she could have been killed quietly in her sleep. The kidnapping needed to happen so she was moved away from her phone (that was tracking her pacemakers /hearts activity). Her medication was not taken so we know the kidnapper did not care about keeping her alive and getting ransom. Whoever did this ensured all ducks were in a row: disabled the front door camera, no tire tracks, no dna, phone and medication still at home, no burglary, no sign of forced entry

I don’t think the pacemakers update continuously in that way. I think it updated periodically, so if she was killed after the last update and then moved out of range, it wouldn’t show.
I wish people would stop saying the thing about tire racks. The only way you get tire tracks on rock driveways is if you peel out with crazy accleratkon/turn. Nothing here is inconsistent with a burglary gone wrong. My guess is she got up suddenly hearing the person and either he hit her or she fell and broke her neck because she didn’t have her walker. No dna because the burglar had his hands and hair covered.

The importance of tire tracks to the sheriff is how she got off the property. Could the full backpack guy sling her over his shoulder and walk a good distance without leaving evidence? Did they need her car and return it? Did she walk beside them, cane and all?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the amount of resources being applied to this investigation

On the news this morning it was stated 400 people are searching. That’s crazy.

It’s beyond crazy. How many crimes aren’t being prevented or investigated and solved because of the resources being deployed to investigate the disappearance of an 84 year old woman who is likely died or was killed the not long after she disappeared.

It’s kind of gross really. This country has a serious case of misplaced priorities.

Have you considered that the kind of person who would kidnap an elderly person from her home is a very dangerous person who should be locked up?

No doubt but all kidnappers are dangerous and many others (namely children) are kidnapped every day and don’t get even half the attention or resource. Savannah knows who did this. The cops should take a look at her correspondence. This screams shakedown. She was probably asked for money prior to this and when the demands weren’t met, an extreme was taken. I believe based on her mannerisms and commentary in her videos she knows who did this.

All of your ASSumptions are completely gross. Leave this poor woman and her family alone.
DP

No, we should not leave them alone. The family should be the first suspect. You and the starry eyed sheriff are so in love with the family. Occam’s razor says the family did this

No…Occam’s razor says it was a stranger. For the family to be involved, there are a whole lot of circumstances that you would need to assume.

This. It’s not family or inheritance related bc family would just pretend she died in her sleep. There is no incentive to go through a kidnapping and the attention it brings if family. If it’s inheritance related, again, kidnapping makes no sense because the person is still assumed alive and there is no inheritance.

Pretend she died in her sleep how? They would need to suffocate her for that or poison her and that would show up on an autopsy. They’d get in trouble. Assuming this is about insurance policy, insurers demand autopsies when cause of death is unclear

Why do you think they would do an autopsy on a sickly 84 yr old?

Exactly. Autopsies are expensive and she had serious heart issues, limited mobility, and required medication to survive.

They’re not as expensive as paying out a policy and insurance companies will demand that or a post mortem if cause of death is unclear. She also had a pacemaker which would’ve recorded an elevated heart rate/suffocation. There’s no way she could have been killed quietly in her sleep. The kidnapping needed to happen so she was moved away from her phone (that was tracking her pacemakers /hearts activity). Her medication was not taken so we know the kidnapper did not care about keeping her alive and getting ransom. Whoever did this ensured all ducks were in a row: disabled the front door camera, no tire tracks, no dna, phone and medication still at home, no burglary, no sign of forced entry

I don’t think the pacemakers update continuously in that way. I think it updated periodically, so if she was killed after the last update and then moved out of range, it wouldn’t show.
I wish people would stop saying the thing about tire racks. The only way you get tire tracks on rock driveways is if you peel out with crazy accleratkon/turn. Nothing here is inconsistent with a burglary gone wrong. My guess is she got up suddenly hearing the person and either he hit her or she fell and broke her neck because she didn’t have her walker. No dna because the burglar had his hands and hair covered.

The importance of tire tracks to the sheriff is how she got off the property. Could the full backpack guy sling her over his shoulder and walk a good distance without leaving evidence? Did they need her car and return it? Did she walk beside them, cane and all?

I don't think so. She looks to be 180 pounds. But maybe? Can men carry a woman far like that?

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Anonymous wrote:The only explanation that makes sense is that Trump is behind this. Full stop. Attacking family is what he does. Go back and watch the Town Hall where she annihilated him. That is the exact type of thing he gets revenge on. For him to offer sympathy and research to someone who has burned him multiple times is just not something he does. Compare this to his response to Reiner’s death where he basically said they deserved it for speaking out against him. Savannah has done far more damage to him than they did. It was him. Nothing else makes sense. His goons lured her to the door, grabbed her and threw her in a vehicle. After seeing the Trump/Epstein files and knowing what they are capable of, it makes me sick to think what happened after that.

I’m no trump fan, but you have lost your mind.

On any other timeline, you would be correct. But this is exactly the type of thing he does. Have you seen the files? This would be FAR from the most vile and bizarre thing he has done.