Biden's VP?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
What about someone like Laura Kelly, Gov of Kansas? High approval rating. Seems really neutral in terms of political controversy. Has cross-party appeal.

Kelly is great. Except she is too old. We are in a pandemic that is especially difficult for the elderly so having two old candidates wouldn't be the best aesthetic choice.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
What about someone like Laura Kelly, Gov of Kansas? High approval rating. Seems really neutral in terms of political controversy. Has cross-party appeal.

Kelly is great. Except she is too old. We are in a pandemic that is especially difficult for the elderly so having two old candidates wouldn't be the best aesthetic choice.


Additionally, he is currently in the final stages of making his selection. He's down to doing interviews and 1:1 sessions with the finalists to determine comfort and compatibility. They are not adding any new candidates to the list that they have not done any vetting on. The vetting process takes too long and frankly, if they aren't already in the midst of doing the vetting, the person is not being considered.

Ms. Kelly could be the best boone to the Democratic party since sliced bread and they couldn't add her to the list at this late date. They have to start getting ballots printed and such by the end of the month. There is no way that they can vet a new candidate in the next 3 weeks.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:If Harris is the VP why won't he just announce it?


Obama didn’t announce until August 23rd.


Why rush? Trump is martyring himself quite nicely.



So what? Does Biden have to do exactly what Obama did?
What does announcing his pick have to do with Trump?

If it's Harris like everyone thinks it is holding off on an announcement doesn't make any sense. I suspect his pick is more controversial.


Just pointing out it’s not unheard of since the last Democrat President did announce ‘later’. Someone’s touchy tonight.


Yeah I'm a grouch, sorry.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
What about someone like Laura Kelly, Gov of Kansas? High approval rating. Seems really neutral in terms of political controversy. Has cross-party appeal.

Kelly is great. Except she is too old. We are in a pandemic that is especially difficult for the elderly so having two old candidates wouldn't be the best aesthetic choice.


Additionally, he is currently in the final stages of making his selection. He's down to doing interviews and 1:1 sessions with the finalists to determine comfort and compatibility. They are not adding any new candidates to the list that they have not done any vetting on. The vetting process takes too long and frankly, if they aren't already in the midst of doing the vetting, the person is not being considered.

Ms. Kelly could be the best boone to the Democratic party since sliced bread and they couldn't add her to the list at this late date. They have to start getting ballots printed and such by the end of the month. There is no way that they can vet a new candidate in the next 3 weeks.

The last time there was a rushed vetting of a potential running mate, the campaign staff missed the fact that the vp candidate's teen daughter was pregnant, that she had fired a high level official over a family dispute, and that she overall lacked the wit to be second-in-command in the most powerful country in the world.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Ms. Kelly could be the best boone to the Democratic party since sliced bread and they couldn't add her to the list at this late date. They have to start getting ballots printed and such by the end of the month. There is no way that they can vet a new candidate in the next 3 weeks.

The last time there was a rushed vetting of a potential running mate, the campaign staff missed the fact that the vp candidate's teen daughter was pregnant, that she had fired a high level official over a family dispute, and that she overall lacked the wit to be second-in-command in the most powerful country in the world.

Lets not forget that Palin claimed she had foreign policy experience based on how close Alaska was to Russia
Anonymous
Anonymous
Harris has a a closet full of ghosts...to suggest otherwise is laughable. They include sleeping with a married man twice her age who appointed her to her political appointments that paid her $400k. Failing to prosecute certain banks and individuals for mortgage fraud. She also ignored the pleas of the people to investigate and prosecute the police for suspicious deaths of young black men. Nor did she support laws eventually put into place by Governor Brown to help end racial profiling of the police in California. She went on record objecting to a law proposing all police where body cameras. She also opposed legislation requiring the AG’s office to independently investigate deadly police shootings. You will also be hearing the name Kevin Cooper if she is the VP (look up that tragic story) and her record on prosecuting Black men, opposing the legalization of marijuana, and the list goes on.
Anonymous
Harris could lock this up in the next day or two. She looks like the strongest candidate on paper and would probably do very well in an interview.

If she is picked, it will mean that the Biden campaign is satisfied that there are reasonable answers for whatever questions will be raised about Harris' record as a prosecutor. It is easy to second guess after the fact. It also might help Harris to take a few hits from well-intended advocates who seem to take extreme positions (case in point: why would any supposedly serious person show up at the LA District Attorney's house at 5:30 am to demand a meeting?). Harris will end up looking reasonable even if she made some mistakes prior to the more recent national awakening on social justice issues.

If her prosecutorial record ends up being a wash, there is still the matter of how poorly Harris managed her own campaign, and this reflect on her governing ability. She reportedly empowered her sister to undermine her campaign manager. While Harris raised tons of money from big donors early and had huge crowds, she ran out of money before Iowa and had to drop out. She punched down at Tulsi Gabbard and did not do well in the exchanges.

Most importantly, she stepped all over her biggest moment (the busing exchange with Biden). As a polished performer, Harris delivered the planned line brilliantly, and viewers could sense the big reveal coming--that the little girl was her. Biden had no response for that. Harris rightly moved up dramatically in the polls and into the top tier. But she also revealed herself to be not particularly strategic. The whole point of an exchange like that is that it is supposed to seem spontaneous (e.g., "you are no Jack Kennedy," which was of course also planned). Harris' team had a Twitter picture all ready to go and was hawking t-shirts. That is embarrassing. It is like the staff bragging to the whole political world that they played a political trick on Biden. And then Harris also admitted days later that her position was the same as Biden's on the issue. Couldn't Harris and her team have thought this through? She had no second act, no major policy plan to take advantage of the momentum. Harris does not need to have any remorse for taking on Biden on the busing issue, but she should have remorse for how stupidly she played it because she might otherwise be the one making the VP pick herself.
Anonymous
I agree, Harris would be terrible. The worst thing a politician can have is an authenticity problem, and she has that in spades. Does not fit the moment either:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/08/07/joe-biden-kamala-harris-2020-election-vice-president-crime-column/3309744001/
Anonymous
Anyone but Harris or Rice works for me. The ethics questions surrounding Rice are ample. Progressives will actively hate her and I'm not sure many beyond the intelligentsia would find her at all appealing:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/07/progressives-alarmed-by-rices-vast-investments-392507

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anyone but Harris or Rice works for me. The ethics questions surrounding Rice are ample. Progressives will actively hate her and I'm not sure many beyond the intelligentsia would find her at all appealing:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/07/progressives-alarmed-by-rices-vast-investments-392507


Yeah, Rice is great but as a potential Secretary of State, not a VP.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anyone but Harris or Rice works for me. The ethics questions surrounding Rice are ample. Progressives will actively hate her and I'm not sure many beyond the intelligentsia would find her at all appealing:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/07/progressives-alarmed-by-rices-vast-investments-392507



There are no ethics questions. Rice recused herself. That she owned oil and gas stocks or gasp stock in a Republican owner casino upsets some of the very left. The moderate or center voters and the Republicans who need to vote for Biden will not care in the least or see it as a positive. Rice will sell her stocks or give up all control as VP. This is really a nothing burger.
Anonymous
Many Dems assume one of Bass's rivals unearthed and distributed the opposition research. Hmm, I wonder which one felt most threatened by her and has the rep for being the most ruthless.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/07/us/elections/biden-vs-trump.html#link-5513fcba
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone but Harris or Rice works for me. The ethics questions surrounding Rice are ample. Progressives will actively hate her and I'm not sure many beyond the intelligentsia would find her at all appealing:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/07/progressives-alarmed-by-rices-vast-investments-392507



There are no ethics questions. Rice recused herself. That she owned oil and gas stocks or gasp stock in a Republican owner casino upsets some of the very left. The moderate or center voters and the Republicans who need to vote for Biden will not care in the least or see it as a positive. Rice will sell her stocks or give up all control as VP. This is really a nothing burger.


Not a nothing burger. There is so much in her history that can be weaponized, she is the embodiment of the "anti-do-no-harm" pick especially since she will not help with Joe's enthusiasm problem to counterbalance all that mud that will be slung at her.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Many Dems assume one of Bass's rivals unearthed and distributed the opposition research. Hmm, I wonder which one felt most threatened by her and has the rep for being the most ruthless.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/07/us/elections/biden-vs-trump.html#link-5513fcba


Rumor is Harris’ team has been dropping cookie crumbs on all the opposition to reporters.
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