Public Trump Impeachment Hearing Mega Thread

[Anonymous]

500 Legal Scholars sign letter to Congress saying that Trump's actions in office are impeach-worthy.

https://medium.com/@legalscholarsonimpeachment/letter-to-congress-from-legal-scholars-6c18b5b6d116

[Anonymous]

There were 3 before Congress the other day and nobody not already convinced cared.

What’s 500? What’s 50,000? Nothing matters anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Justin Amash announced he is likely to support the Articles of Impeachment. If that is the case, then the Articles will have "bi-partisan" support.

Also, I am going to posit that the perjury associated with the Mueller Report will make it into the Articles of Impeachment. Remember, Roger Stone was convicted of lying. Trump lied about his knowledge of Wikileaks. It is on paper and a slam dunk in terms of facts.

LOL.
That is NOT bipartisan. He voted for the inquiry too. It was not bipartisan.
Just because some idiot on Twitter calls it bipartisan, that does not make it so.

My prediction is that more Democrats will vote AGAINST impeachment than Republicans voting FOR impeachment.

THAT will be the bipartisan aspect of the vote. Just like the inquiry.

Democrats in swing districts may vote against the articles.

That would be the only reason.

Oh, because it is "politically expedient?" Got it.
Anything for a constiutent's vote, right?
Typical Dem.

Do you think Trump, Gym, or Nunes believes the sh*t their spewing? Theyre doing it for Trump’s core. Typical Republican

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of reason to raise doubt with Schiff's call log claims. Turned out he got at least one wrong......

But “the OMB number,” according to the Wall Street Journal was not directly associated with the Office of Management and Budget, and Giuliani, instead, could have been having a call with another part of the White House. The New York Times also reported that “the OMB number” was actually a general White House switchboard number, which makes it difficult to determine who Giuliani was speaking with at the White House.

I agree with this statement:

“If the Democrats are going to attack their political opponents, staff members, and even journalists by publishing their phone records, you’d really think they’d at least get the phone numbers right," Langer told Fox News.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doubts-raised-after-schiff-claims-phone-records-prove-giulianis-white-house-budget-office-calls

I agree. But it could be an innocent mistake made by a staffer.

Trump has told 13,000 lies since taking office. But the Dems get destroyed for every single error. Real level playing field.

The reality is that is is questionable for him to access, and then publish, the phone records of the president's attorney, a journalist, and the ranking member of the committee he chairs.
Slimy, at a minimum. But, that is Schiff.
And, he can't even get his sliminess right.

Geez. Rudy, Mick, Trump and the gang can’t keep from lying. Or keep their lies straight. Attack Schiff?—— give me a break.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of reason to raise doubt with Schiff's call log claims. Turned out he got at least one wrong......

But “the OMB number,” according to the Wall Street Journal was not directly associated with the Office of Management and Budget, and Giuliani, instead, could have been having a call with another part of the White House. The New York Times also reported that “the OMB number” was actually a general White House switchboard number, which makes it difficult to determine who Giuliani was speaking with at the White House.

I agree with this statement:

“If the Democrats are going to attack their political opponents, staff members, and even journalists by publishing their phone records, you’d really think they’d at least get the phone numbers right," Langer told Fox News.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doubts-raised-after-schiff-claims-phone-records-prove-giulianis-white-house-budget-office-calls

I agree. But it could be an innocent mistake made by a staffer.

Trump has told 13,000 lies since taking office. But the Dems get destroyed for every single error. Real level playing field.

The reality is that is is questionable for him to access, and then publish, the phone records of the president's attorney, a journalist, and the ranking member of the committee he chairs.
Slimy, at a minimum. But, that is Schiff.
And, he can't even get his sliminess right.

Geez. Rudy, Mick, Trump and the gang can’t keep from lying. Or keep their lies straight. Attack Schiff?—— give me a break.

Most of the phone records were given over voluntarily by Parnas. Don't want your phone records given to the Congress? Don't interact with criminals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of reason to raise doubt with Schiff's call log claims. Turned out he got at least one wrong......

But “the OMB number,” according to the Wall Street Journal was not directly associated with the Office of Management and Budget, and Giuliani, instead, could have been having a call with another part of the White House. The New York Times also reported that “the OMB number” was actually a general White House switchboard number, which makes it difficult to determine who Giuliani was speaking with at the White House.

I agree with this statement:

“If the Democrats are going to attack their political opponents, staff members, and even journalists by publishing their phone records, you’d really think they’d at least get the phone numbers right," Langer told Fox News.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doubts-raised-after-schiff-claims-phone-records-prove-giulianis-white-house-budget-office-calls

I agree. But it could be an innocent mistake made by a staffer.

Trump has told 13,000 lies since taking office. But the Dems get destroyed for every single error. Real level playing field.

The reality is that is is questionable for him to access, and then publish, the phone records of the president's attorney, a journalist, and the ranking member of the committee he chairs.
Slimy, at a minimum. But, that is Schiff.
And, he can't even get his sliminess right.

Schiff isn’t the slimy one.

[Anonymous]

After Trump shoots G(houl)uiliani on 5th Ave or PA Ave will this be an impeachable offence? He must the the day he hired ole Rudy!

https://www.vox.com/2019/12/6/20998714/rudy-giuliani-quid-pro-quo-tweets-ukraine-biden

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of reason to raise doubt with Schiff's call log claims. Turned out he got at least one wrong......

But “the OMB number,” according to the Wall Street Journal was not directly associated with the Office of Management and Budget, and Giuliani, instead, could have been having a call with another part of the White House. The New York Times also reported that “the OMB number” was actually a general White House switchboard number, which makes it difficult to determine who Giuliani was speaking with at the White House.

I agree with this statement:

“If the Democrats are going to attack their political opponents, staff members, and even journalists by publishing their phone records, you’d really think they’d at least get the phone numbers right," Langer told Fox News.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doubts-raised-after-schiff-claims-phone-records-prove-giulianis-white-house-budget-office-calls

I agree. But it could be an innocent mistake made by a staffer.

Trump has told 13,000 lies since taking office. But the Dems get destroyed for every single error. Real level playing field.

The reality is that is is questionable for him to access, and then publish, the phone records of the president's attorney, a journalist, and the ranking member of the committee he chairs.
Slimy, at a minimum. But, that is Schiff.
And, he can't even get his sliminess right.

Geez. Rudy, Mick, Trump and the gang can’t keep from lying. Or keep their lies straight. Attack Schiff?—— give me a break.

Most of the phone records were given over voluntarily by Parnas. Don't want your phone records given to the Congress? Don't interact with criminals.

This is just crap. You have no idea what you are talking about.

[Anonymous]

So, Schiff subpoenas the phone records of Nunes (ranking member), Giuliani (President's attorney), Former staff for Nunes, previous staff member of Nunes, and Soloman (journalist).
This is something that has never been done before. Ever. Not by a chairperson for a congressional committee.

And, he publishes a record claiming it belongs to OMB. He got that wrong.
And, according to Nunes, he got the calls attributed to him wrong too.

And, then, he actually PUBLISHES them in his report.
And, has the audacity to make a statement that "there is evidence" that members of Congress are "complicit" in some scheme that he hasn't defined.

This is like when Schiff pushed the Russian narrative for over 2 years claiming to have more than circumstantial evidence that Trump colluded with Russia.

He is full of Schiff.

And, the media is totally silent about this violation of civil liberty. Truly astounding.
And, liberals seems to condone it.

So, he has now set a precedent. It is just a matter of time before Republicans do the same to Democrats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, Schiff subpoenas the phone records of Nunes (ranking member), Giuliani (President's attorney), Former staff for Nunes, previous staff member of Nunes, and Soloman (journalist).
This is something that has never been done before. Ever. Not by a chairperson for a congressional committee.

And, he publishes a record claiming it belongs to OMB. He got that wrong.
And, according to Nunes, he got the calls attributed to him wrong too.

And, then, he actually PUBLISHES them in his report.
And, has the audacity to make a statement that "there is evidence" that members of Congress are "complicit" in some scheme that he hasn't defined.

This is like when Schiff pushed the Russian narrative for over 2 years claiming to have more than circumstantial evidence that Trump colluded with Russia.

He is full of Schiff.

And, the media is totally silent about this violation of civil liberty. Truly astounding.
And, liberals seems to condone it.

So, he has now set a precedent. It is just a matter of time before Republicans do the same to Democrats.

The bolded is a lie. You’re entire post and all your outrage is based on a lie. Who is telling these lies to you?

“In the impeachment report released on Tuesday, a number of call logs were made public showing conversations between Giuliani, officials at the White House and other agencies, and Lev Parnas, an associate of Giuliani’s who is now indicted on campaign finance violations. The records appear to have been obtained via a subpoena of AT&T, which released a statement on Wednesday saying that it is “required by law to provide information to government and law enforcement agencies.”

The report indicates that all of the call records obtained by the committee belonged to Parnas or Giuliani. Every call mentioned in the report includes one or both of them. And the numbers assigned in the report’s footnotes to each document that AT&T produced to the committee appear sequential and grouped according to calls involving Parnas and Giuliani—in the case of the latter, numbers 02131 through 02139, and for the former, 00909 through 00914.”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/adam-schiff-no-we-didnt-subpoena-john-solomons-phone-records

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, Schiff subpoenas the phone records of Nunes (ranking member), Giuliani (President's attorney), Former staff for Nunes, previous staff member of Nunes, and Soloman (journalist).
This is something that has never been done before. Ever. Not by a chairperson for a congressional committee.

And, he publishes a record claiming it belongs to OMB. He got that wrong.
And, according to Nunes, he got the calls attributed to him wrong too.

And, then, he actually PUBLISHES them in his report.
And, has the audacity to make a statement that "there is evidence" that members of Congress are "complicit" in some scheme that he hasn't defined.

This is like when Schiff pushed the Russian narrative for over 2 years claiming to have more than circumstantial evidence that Trump colluded with Russia.

He is full of Schiff.

And, the media is totally silent about this violation of civil liberty. Truly astounding.
And, liberals seems to condone it.

So, he has now set a precedent. It is just a matter of time before Republicans do the same to Democrats.

The bolded is a lie. You’re entire post and all your outrage is based on a lie. Who is telling these lies to you?

“In the impeachment report released on Tuesday, a number of call logs were made public showing conversations between Giuliani, officials at the White House and other agencies, and Lev Parnas, an associate of Giuliani’s who is now indicted on campaign finance violations. The records appear to have been obtained via a subpoena of AT&T, which released a statement on Wednesday saying that it is “required by law to provide information to government and law enforcement agencies.”

The report indicates that all of the call records obtained by the committee belonged to Parnas or Giuliani. Every call mentioned in the report includes one or both of them. And the numbers assigned in the report’s footnotes to each document that AT&T produced to the committee appear sequential and grouped according to calls involving Parnas and Giuliani—in the case of the latter, numbers 02131 through 02139, and for the former, 00909 through 00914.”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/adam-schiff-no-we-didnt-subpoena-john-solomons-phone-records

Um, this is what the pp said. Who subpoenaed AT&T? Why didn’t the Daily Beast tell you that?

[Anonymous]

All the talk about the House and precedent misses the point. If we want to talk precedent, look at the precedent Cheetoh has established.

[Anonymous]

SDNY likely subpoenaed ATT given their investigation of Parnas.

This really isn't hard and isn't some Dem conspiracy. There are criminals in our country and some of them interact with the President's men. Why not focus on the people who are being investigated and figure why they have had so much contact with Nunes, Guiliani, the White House and OMB?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Um, this is what the pp said. Who subpoenaed AT&T? Why didn’t the Daily Beast tell you that?

Because we know Giuliani is being investigated by the US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of NY. Crimes being considered (that's why the subpoenas are issued - because a crime is suspected) include:

Obstruction of justice
Money laundering
Conspiracy to defraud the United States
Making false statements to the federal government
Serving as agent of a foreign government without registering
Donating funds from foreign nationals
Making contributions in the name of another person or allowing someone else to use one’s name
Mail fraud
Wire fraud

The investigation into Rudy Giuliani and his associates by the US Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York (SDNY) is heating up, according to a set of new reports — and new details suggest prosecutors are looking into matters near the heart of the Ukraine scandal.

The new reports cite subpoenas sent out to various associates of President Trump’s personal attorney by SDNY. The subpoenas reveal that prosecutors are looking into Giuliani’s business and finances, that they’re exploring his contacts with former top Ukrainian officials, and that they’re investigating a host of potential crimes.

Back in October, two Giuliani associates, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, were indicted for campaign finance violations. Parnas and Fruman had already gained notoriety in the media for helping Giuliani make connections with Ukrainian officials who claimed to know of scandalous information that could be helpful to Trump. And their arrest happened in the midst of Democrats’ impeachment inquiry on that very topic.

The charges against Parnas and Fruman did not mention Giuliani; the pair were apparently charged in some haste, to prevent them from leaving the country. But word soon leaked out that Giuliani was under scrutiny by SDNY as well.

Overall, things don’t look great for Giuliani, who says he has not even been contacted by investigators. Generally, if investigators are reaching out to lots of your associates but not to you, it may mean that you’re the investigation’s target. But, though details are still scant on the overall probe, here’s what we’ve learned about it lately.

https://www.vox.com/2019/11/26/20982629/rudy-giuliani-investigation-sdny-ukraine

[Anonymous]

^ BUT IT’S NOT FAIR THAT THEY ARE BEING INVESTIGATED. WAH!