Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

[Anonymous]

Evidence suggests, they should push them. We did the workbooks at home - whatever- IQ building ones- its two years guys, not a lifelong commit. The tests might be stupid but its the difference between slated for expectation A vs B. Gen A is NOT a wasteland but its like the white tee vs the blue tees. I mean, how hard do you want your kid to work for 10 years vs 2 early ed? Its up to you, for me, the formula has worked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Evidence suggests, they should push them. We did the workbooks at home - whatever- IQ building ones- its two years guys, not a lifelong commit. The tests might be stupid but its the difference between slated for expectation A vs B. Gen A is NOT a wasteland but its like the white tee vs the blue tees. I mean, how hard do you want your kid to work for 10 years vs 2 early ed? Its up to you, for me, the formula has worked.

What evidence are you citing? Surely you are too smart to generalize from your own anecdotal evidence. You're going to have a really hard time when your grandkids are totally Americanized and push back on all of this, LOL.

[Anonymous]

You can lol all you want. Yes, I generalize from my experience which is the best evidence on can cite - again, in my experience, because I have actual outcomes. I’m just telling you my experience and labeled as such. Should you believe AAP should be abolished and GE the norm, I’d love to see you provide your evidence that this generates superior outcomes. I’m advocating for the elevation of all students and the importance of not leaving this to chance for parents but I’m so far down this road I don’t care what you choose to do - I just am at the end of the pipeline, still care to get them situated and then I’m done. However I’ve had four kids that that succeeded in FCPS and so I’m sharing my recipe. You want GE, knock yourself out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Evidence suggests, they should push them. We did the workbooks at home - whatever- IQ building ones- its two years guys, not a lifelong commit. The tests might be stupid but its the difference between slated for expectation A vs B. Gen A is NOT a wasteland but its like the white tee vs the blue tees. I mean, how hard do you want your kid to work for 10 years vs 2 early ed? Its up to you, for me, the formula has worked.

What evidence are you citing? Surely you are too smart to generalize from your own anecdotal evidence. You're going to have a really hard time when your grandkids are totally Americanized and push back on all of this, LOL.

While they drive their brand new BMWs from daddy's money?

[Anonymous]

Back on topic: What is the likelihood they tell us how many kids opted in this week? I am guessing they don’t but I am curious. I would love for them to release the opt in numbers, by ES would be really amazing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Evidence suggests, they should push them. We did the workbooks at home - whatever- IQ building ones- its two years guys, not a lifelong commit. The tests might be stupid but its the difference between slated for expectation A vs B. Gen A is NOT a wasteland but its like the white tee vs the blue tees. I mean, how hard do you want your kid to work for 10 years vs 2 early ed? Its up to you, for me, the formula has worked.

No. You are treating the test as an "achievement test."
When I taught, we kept those tests under lock and key. Why? The test of IQ is related to how you deal with unfamiliar information and tasks. If your child has been taught the answers, it is no longer an IQ test, but an achievement one.

DH is an engineer. He mentions how many well-trained engineers are not able to solve problems because they are not able to apply their "knowledge."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Back on topic: What is the likelihood they tell us how many kids opted in this week? I am guessing they don’t but I am curious. I would love for them to release the opt in numbers, by ES would be really amazing.

My guess is that there will be many from schools unlikely to be "in boundary."

Reid did no one any favors by setting up this process--and I use the term "process" liberally.

People want certainty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Back on topic: What is the likelihood they tell us how many kids opted in this week? I am guessing they don’t but I am curious. I would love for them to release the opt in numbers, by ES would be really amazing.

My guess is that there will be many from schools unlikely to be "in boundary."

Reid did no one any favors by setting up this process--and I use the term "process" liberally.

People want certainty.

100% people want certainty. I know people who opted in and will try and pupil place back to the base school if their school isn't in boundary. They opted in so that they knew they would have transportation for 4 years. Since there are going to be kids attending the base HS in their neighborhood, they will be able to get a bus exemption if they have to pupil place for the base.

I also know people who opted in and will head to Western even if they have to provide transportation.

I am curious as to the numbers and would love a break down by the schools that opted in. I want to know if it was more than 500 kids and there is going to be a lottery, since the original criteria for deciding who is part of the 500 has been scrapped.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Back on topic: What is the likelihood they tell us how many kids opted in this week? I am guessing they don’t but I am curious. I would love for them to release the opt in numbers, by ES would be really amazing.

My guess is that there will be many from schools unlikely to be "in boundary."

Reid did no one any favors by setting up this process--and I use the term "process" liberally.

People want certainty.

100% people want certainty. I know people who opted in and will try and pupil place back to the base school if their school isn't in boundary. They opted in so that they knew they would have transportation for 4 years. Since there are going to be kids attending the base HS in their neighborhood, they will be able to get a bus exemption if they have to pupil place for the base.

I also know people who opted in and will head to Western even if they have to provide transportation.

I am curious as to the numbers and would love a break down by the schools that opted in. I want to know if it was more than 500 kids and there is going to be a lottery, since the original criteria for deciding who is part of the 500 has been scrapped.

Reid is about nothing so much as claiming a commitment to transparency and then trying to obfuscate everything. She and her overpaid hires like Lisa Youngblood-Hall hold back information until they've figured out how to spin it in a pro-Reid direction.

[Anonymous]

I am not for firing people except for really sorry decisions and behavior.

The Comprehensive Boundary study is bad enough, but the way she has handled the new high school decisions is beyond awful. It seems like that she has gone in the wrong direction with every briefing and decision. She did not get what she wanted and it appears she is deliberately sabotaging it.

Beginning that first briefing with how to name the school is a great example. Remember, she spent an hour on it. Then she launched her magnet idea. The Board made it pretty clear that a traditional school is needed.

And, what has happened with this whole process? Likely "in-boundary" kids are staying at their base school--who can blame them when they do not know who will be in boundary.
Meanwhile, she is pouring more kids INTO the very overcrowded Chantilly High School. How many kids will be there next year? They are at 3000 now and adding more.

Where is the common sense decision making we need? Does the School Board not have some responsibility here to straighten this out?

She is more concerned about facade than what is important: the students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I will say I know one family whose kids went gen ed and went to W&M and UVA. Smart kids - took all honors/AP in HS. That said, I know one family. If you are serious about academics I suggest you have your kid ready in second grade if they are on that path. If they can't, no shade. But if its your wanting to live organically and be lazy, you will have the troubled kids in the class with your gen ed kids taking 80% of the oxygen. Its not right, its not fair, its reality. Part of the pledge of meeting the educational needs of every student. Students in AAP are not that much smarter but they are smart enough to get in the right lane, or their parents are.

Lol!
Clueless post if you think troubled k8ds are not suck8ng oxyg3n in AAP.

It's PP. I have four AAP kids. The oldest is working with with a 7 figure total comp annual package in tech, the middle is a TOP university and the 3-4 is still in FPCS. I feel like I have a few years of experience at this. Not to be a jerk but you are totally out of touch. My 24 year old FPCS AAP kid makes 340k in salary and Multi-M in RSUs and my next once will do well, not as well but better than 99% of us If you have these outcomes, by all means, enlighten us. If you don't, maybe listen. FCPS has major issues, but if you think AAP is the problem, it's not. ALL the kids should be taught to AAP standards. Beyond that, it's on the parents to tell the kids to reach for the sky and set that expectation. My kids are all very happy, btw, not a single anxiety drug or problem kid among them. They have their relative strengths and weaknesses, but they respect education, authority and parents.

WOW - all because they were in AAP, huh? It has absolutely nothing to do with parenting and family values? Without AAP, your kids would have been screw-ups!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will say I know one family whose kids went gen ed and went to W&M and UVA. Smart kids - took all honors/AP in HS. That said, I know one family. If you are serious about academics I suggest you have your kid ready in second grade if they are on that path. If they can't, no shade. But if its your wanting to live organically and be lazy, you will have the troubled kids in the class with your gen ed kids taking 80% of the oxygen. Its not right, its not fair, its reality. Part of the pledge of meeting the educational needs of every student. Students in AAP are not that much smarter but they are smart enough to get in the right lane, or their parents are.

Lol!
Clueless post if you think troubled k8ds are not suck8ng oxyg3n in AAP.

It's PP. I have four AAP kids. The oldest is working with with a 7 figure total comp annual package in tech, the middle is a TOP university and the 3-4 is still in FPCS. I feel like I have a few years of experience at this. Not to be a jerk but you are totally out of touch. My 24 year old FPCS AAP kid makes 340k in salary and Multi-M in RSUs and my next once will do well, not as well but better than 99% of us If you have these outcomes, by all means, enlighten us. If you don't, maybe listen. FCPS has major issues, but if you think AAP is the problem, it's not. ALL the kids should be taught to AAP standards. Beyond that, it's on the parents to tell the kids to reach for the sky and set that expectation. My kids are all very happy, btw, not a single anxiety drug or problem kid among them. They have their relative strengths and weaknesses, but they respect education, authority and parents.

WOW - all because they were in AAP, huh? It has absolutely nothing to do with parenting and family values? Without AAP, your kids would have been screw-ups!

And, for every kid making 340 K--there is at least one still at home in mom's basement. Maybe, more than one. I know this to be true because I can see it for myself in my neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

Can we be done talking about AAP.

This forum is about Western High Schools boundary options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we be done talking about AAP.

This forum is about Western High Schools boundary options.

Problem is that the options won't be decided for months. It is time for the SB to step up and demand quicker action.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not for firing people except for really sorry decisions and behavior.

The Comprehensive Boundary study is bad enough, but the way she has handled the new high school decisions is beyond awful. It seems like that she has gone in the wrong direction with every briefing and decision. She did not get what she wanted and it appears she is deliberately sabotaging it.

Beginning that first briefing with how to name the school is a great example. Remember, she spent an hour on it. Then she launched her magnet idea. The Board made it pretty clear that a traditional school is needed.

And, what has happened with this whole process? Likely "in-boundary" kids are staying at their base school--who can blame them when they do not know who will be in boundary.
Meanwhile, she is pouring more kids INTO the very overcrowded Chantilly High School. How many kids will be there next year? They are at 3000 now and adding more.

Where is the common sense decision making we need? Does the School Board not have some responsibility here to straighten this out?

She is more concerned about facade than what is important: the students.

I do believe she had to move kids into overcrowded Chantilly to keep
Fairfax City happy. Fairfax High School cannot be overcrowded per the agreement with the county.