Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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AAP is not the top 10%. The in-pool kids for consideration for AAP are the top 10% of each school. AAP ends up being closer to 20% of the grade level across FCPS.

And yes, some schools are crazy invested into AAP and Navy is one of those schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like if pro Western Crossfield families get their way and they have younger kids they can move twice. “ “The Fairfax County Board of Supervisors unanimously approved a rezoning proposal on Tuesday (Jan. 13) that will bring nearly 450 new residential units to a 12-acre site in the McNair Farms area near Herndon.” The FCPS’ CIP assesses Oakton’s student population will decrease from 103 to 98% by SY31. Sounds like staying at Oakton is the best bet for stability.

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Pro Western Franklin Farm crossfield parent like to use young kids/older kids as their excuse to get what they prefer. They couldn't care less about other people's younger kids, but their own.

So tired of you Crossfield-to-Navy for AAP/Carson/wannabe TJ but will settle for nothing less than Oakton parents thinking your opinion matters more than anyone else’s. Yes, we can tell who you are by your syntax. If you are so dead set on Oakton as the only acceptable backup to TJ you should have bought a home closer to the high school. Sorry you couldn’t figure out how to be successful enough to afford true Oakton, McLean, or Langley. You you can’t buy a home in Herndon and be shocked at the idea that your child might have to attend high school in… Herndon. You get what you pay for.

Dp. Are you saying all of us who are pushing for Western are poor, including you? All the other schools are lesser schools other than Langley, Mclean and Oakton. That is sad.

Other schools are just as good with homes of varying price points in each attendance zone.

What’s sad is that DP posted something that reflects poorly on their fragile masculinity/femininity and elitism that reflects grave insecurity.

In certain communities, there is a high priority on going to the "best" school. Those same communities place a high focus on academics and certain brand name colleges. That is a high priority for those cultures because you are viewed as a failure if you don't go down that path. Obviously people from other communities have a focus on other things for a high school experience. We are not "all the same" which is why diversity is such a great thing!

Traditionally, Carson has been one of the schools that sent the most students to TJ. Perhaps you would understand why so many people want to feed into Carson with Oakton as a backup.

There are a lot of people who bought into the whole Crossfield community with that background for that particular pathway (the crossfield to AAP to Carson to Oakton pathway), who also they tend not to be in the Franklin Farm part of Crossfield. They tend to be in the large houses with larger plots of land on the east side of Ox Road that surprise, surprise, cost the same or MORE as Oakton proper (check Zillow) excluding the 10-15 million dollar estates. These people could have afforded living closer to Oakton, but living closer to Oakton doesn't get you the largest peergroup that heads to TJ which happens to be at Carson.

In 208 pages of this topic, I don't think anyone has noticed this.

So what do you do if your child is just average academically? Or struggling with mental health? Push them and make them feel bad for not measuring up? I work with college students and I see the effects this parental pressure has on them. They won’t tell their parents how much it has affected them. But they are determined not to continue the cycle with their own children. This culture is not something to be emulated or glorified.

Yes you push them. Not sure why white people don't get this. Might be why they're getting out competed in education and jobs.

We get it alright, and don’t want to sacrifice our children’s self confidence and mental health for a narrow definition of success. For every one kid who is super successful from being pushed, there are a bunch filled with anxiety and self-doubt. This ends up holding them back. Nobody likes having an employee or colleague who needs constant reassurance that they are doing things right because their hypercritical parents screwed up their ability to just use their best judgement and do the best job they can without needing hand holding.

You might still stigmatize mental health challenges in your household, but outside the house it’s no longer taboo to talk about it. Trust that these young adults are realizing what this kind of parenting has done to them and they resent you for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We used to live in a neighborhood zoned for Carson. I could not believe my eyes when I saw a yard sign advertising tutoring/prep for K-2 grades to pass the AAP test. We ended up sending our kids to private school because I didn’t want them to go to school with families that were so competitive over acadmics. 15 years later, our kid is at UVA.

It's a very small subset of people. My kid is a Carson non AAP kid and everyone we know is normal.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like if pro Western Crossfield families get their way and they have younger kids they can move twice. “ “The Fairfax County Board of Supervisors unanimously approved a rezoning proposal on Tuesday (Jan. 13) that will bring nearly 450 new residential units to a 12-acre site in the McNair Farms area near Herndon.” The FCPS’ CIP assesses Oakton’s student population will decrease from 103 to 98% by SY31. Sounds like staying at Oakton is the best bet for stability.

+1

Pro Western Franklin Farm crossfield parent like to use young kids/older kids as their excuse to get what they prefer. They couldn't care less about other people's younger kids, but their own.

So tired of you Crossfield-to-Navy for AAP/Carson/wannabe TJ but will settle for nothing less than Oakton parents thinking your opinion matters more than anyone else’s. Yes, we can tell who you are by your syntax. If you are so dead set on Oakton as the only acceptable backup to TJ you should have bought a home closer to the high school. Sorry you couldn’t figure out how to be successful enough to afford true Oakton, McLean, or Langley. You you can’t buy a home in Herndon and be shocked at the idea that your child might have to attend high school in… Herndon. You get what you pay for.

Dp. Are you saying all of us who are pushing for Western are poor, including you? All the other schools are lesser schools other than Langley, Mclean and Oakton. That is sad.

Someone is having a good time trolling, I think.

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Anonymous wrote:AAP is not the top 10%. The in-pool kids for consideration for AAP are the top 10% of each school. AAP ends up being closer to 20% of the grade level across FCPS.

And yes, some schools are crazy invested into AAP and Navy is one of those schools.

Far from the only one.

The worst parents are those with 2E.
I always thought the purpose of AAP was to have the kids who could move faster and learn more independently. Not so, apparently.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like if pro Western Crossfield families get their way and they have younger kids they can move twice. “ “The Fairfax County Board of Supervisors unanimously approved a rezoning proposal on Tuesday (Jan. 13) that will bring nearly 450 new residential units to a 12-acre site in the McNair Farms area near Herndon.” The FCPS’ CIP assesses Oakton’s student population will decrease from 103 to 98% by SY31. Sounds like staying at Oakton is the best bet for stability.

+1

Pro Western Franklin Farm crossfield parent like to use young kids/older kids as their excuse to get what they prefer. They couldn't care less about other people's younger kids, but their own.

So tired of you Crossfield-to-Navy for AAP/Carson/wannabe TJ but will settle for nothing less than Oakton parents thinking your opinion matters more than anyone else’s. Yes, we can tell who you are by your syntax. If you are so dead set on Oakton as the only acceptable backup to TJ you should have bought a home closer to the high school. Sorry you couldn’t figure out how to be successful enough to afford true Oakton, McLean, or Langley. You you can’t buy a home in Herndon and be shocked at the idea that your child might have to attend high school in… Herndon. You get what you pay for.

Dp. Are you saying all of us who are pushing for Western are poor, including you? All the other schools are lesser schools other than Langley, Mclean and Oakton. That is sad.

Someone is just having fun trolling, I think.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:AAP is not the top 10%. The in-pool kids for consideration for AAP are the top 10% of each school. AAP ends up being closer to 20% of the grade level across FCPS.

And yes, some schools are crazy invested into AAP and Navy is one of those schools.

Far from the only one.

The worst parents are those with 2E.
I always thought the purpose of AAP was to have the kids who could move faster and learn more independently. Not so, apparently.

One of my kids was 2E. 2E is about having a very high IQ while still have some element of a learning disability, often ADHD. When the learning disability is treated, they can achieve their potential. And my kid never took extra time, by the way, his accommodations were more like sitting in the front row of the class and having 5 minutes at the end of class to get organized and having graphic organizers and more frequent check in with teachers. With this, he went to a TOP 5 college for his (very competitive) major and is going to graduate with honors. So maybe you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to 2E kids. I will agree all kids deserve a better education and are capable of more than they get, by large but don't blame the parents who push for the best for their kids and if 2E, take advantage of the support offered.

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Anonymous wrote:AAP is not the top 10%. The in-pool kids for consideration for AAP are the top 10% of each school. AAP ends up being closer to 20% of the grade level across FCPS.

And yes, some schools are crazy invested into AAP and Navy is one of those schools.

Far from the only one.

The worst parents are those with 2E.
I always thought the purpose of AAP was to have the kids who could move faster and learn more independently. Not so, apparently.

One of my kids was 2E. 2E is about having a very high IQ while still have some element of a learning disability, often ADHD. When the learning disability is treated, they can achieve their potential. And my kid never took extra time, by the way, his accommodations were more like sitting in the front row of the class and having 5 minutes at the end of class to get organized and having graphic organizers and more frequent check in with teachers. With this, he went to a TOP 5 college for his (very competitive) major and is going to graduate with honors. So maybe you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to 2E kids. I will agree all kids deserve a better education and are capable of more than they get, by large but don't blame the parents who push for the best for their kids and if 2E, take advantage of the support offered.

Yep. People don't understand 2e, including many teachers. My 2e kid didn't get into AAP and when I requested the packet and saw the teacher comments I was horrified - you would have thought my kid was unteachable. Luckily, I was able to argue for principal placement and the principal placement and we parent -referred two years later with nothing but two years of excellent grades and SOL scores. The only accomodations my kid ever needed was preferential seating and extra time because they don't have the same processing speed. They are thriving now in a BS/MD program. So put it in your pipe and smoke it.

[Anonymous]

Stop talking about your Bratty Kids in a AAP- A Program That Needs To Be Abolished!

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Anonymous wrote:AAP is not the top 10%. The in-pool kids for consideration for AAP are the top 10% of each school. AAP ends up being closer to 20% of the grade level across FCPS.

And yes, some schools are crazy invested into AAP and Navy is one of those schools.

Far from the only one.

The worst parents are those with 2E.
I always thought the purpose of AAP was to have the kids who could move faster and learn more independently. Not so, apparently.

One of my kids was 2E. 2E is about having a very high IQ while still have some element of a learning disability, often ADHD. When the learning disability is treated, they can achieve their potential. And my kid never took extra time, by the way, his accommodations were more like sitting in the front row of the class and having 5 minutes at the end of class to get organized and having graphic organizers and more frequent check in with teachers. With this, he went to a TOP 5 college for his (very competitive) major and is going to graduate with honors. So maybe you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to 2E kids. I will agree all kids deserve a better education and are capable of more than they get, by large but don't blame the parents who push for the best for their kids and if 2E, take advantage of the support offered.

Yep. People don't understand 2e, including many teachers. My 2e kid didn't get into AAP and when I requested the packet and saw the teacher comments I was horrified - you would have thought my kid was unteachable. Luckily, I was able to argue for principal placement and the principal placement and we parent -referred two years later with nothing but two years of excellent grades and SOL scores. The only accomodations my kid ever needed was preferential seating and extra time because they don't have the same processing speed. They are thriving now in a BS/MD program. So put it in your pipe and smoke it.

And, you think they would not have done just as well in GenEd?

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Anonymous wrote:AAP is not the top 10%. The in-pool kids for consideration for AAP are the top 10% of each school. AAP ends up being closer to 20% of the grade level across FCPS.

And yes, some schools are crazy invested into AAP and Navy is one of those schools.

Far from the only one.

The worst parents are those with 2E.
I always thought the purpose of AAP was to have the kids who could move faster and learn more independently. Not so, apparently.

One of my kids was 2E. 2E is about having a very high IQ while still have some element of a learning disability, often ADHD. When the learning disability is treated, they can achieve their potential. And my kid never took extra time, by the way, his accommodations were more like sitting in the front row of the class and having 5 minutes at the end of class to get organized and having graphic organizers and more frequent check in with teachers. With this, he went to a TOP 5 college for his (very competitive) major and is going to graduate with honors. So maybe you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to 2E kids. I will agree all kids deserve a better education and are capable of more than they get, by large but don't blame the parents who push for the best for their kids and if 2E, take advantage of the support offered.

Yep. People don't understand 2e, including many teachers. My 2e kid didn't get into AAP and when I requested the packet and saw the teacher comments I was horrified - you would have thought my kid was unteachable. Luckily, I was able to argue for principal placement and the principal placement and we parent -referred two years later with nothing but two years of excellent grades and SOL scores. The only accomodations my kid ever needed was preferential seating and extra time because they don't have the same processing speed. They are thriving now in a BS/MD program. So put it in your pipe and smoke it.

And, you think they would not have done just as well in GenEd?

They would not have been challenged and that's never a good thing.

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I will say I know one family whose kids went gen ed and went to W&M and UVA. Smart kids - took all honors/AP in HS. That said, I know one family. If you are serious about academics I suggest you have your kid ready in second grade if they are on that path. If they can't, no shade. But if its your wanting to live organically and be lazy, you will have the troubled kids in the class with your gen ed kids taking 80% of the oxygen. Its not right, its not fair, its reality. Part of the pledge of meeting the educational needs of every student. Students in AAP are not that much smarter but they are smart enough to get in the right lane, or their parents are.

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Anonymous wrote:I will say I know one family whose kids went gen ed and went to W&M and UVA. Smart kids - took all honors/AP in HS. That said, I know one family. If you are serious about academics I suggest you have your kid ready in second grade if they are on that path. If they can't, no shade. But if its your wanting to live organically and be lazy, you will have the troubled kids in the class with your gen ed kids taking 80% of the oxygen. Its not right, its not fair, its reality. Part of the pledge of meeting the educational needs of every student. Students in AAP are not that much smarter but they are smart enough to get in the right lane, or their parents are.

Lol!
Clueless post if you think troubled k8ds are not suck8ng oxyg3n in AAP.

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Anonymous wrote:I will say I know one family whose kids went gen ed and went to W&M and UVA. Smart kids - took all honors/AP in HS. That said, I know one family. If you are serious about academics I suggest you have your kid ready in second grade if they are on that path. If they can't, no shade. But if its your wanting to live organically and be lazy, you will have the troubled kids in the class with your gen ed kids taking 80% of the oxygen. Its not right, its not fair, its reality. Part of the pledge of meeting the educational needs of every student. Students in AAP are not that much smarter but they are smart enough to get in the right lane, or their parents are.

Lol!
Clueless post if you think troubled k8ds are not suck8ng oxyg3n in AAP.

It's PP. I have four AAP kids. The oldest is working with with a 7 figure total comp annual package in tech, the middle is a TOP university and the 3-4 is still in FPCS. I feel like I have a few years of experience at this. Not to be a jerk but you are totally out of touch. My 24 year old FPCS AAP kid makes 340k in salary and Multi-M in RSUs and my next once will do well, not as well but better than 99% of us If you have these outcomes, by all means, enlighten us. If you don't, maybe listen. FCPS has major issues, but if you think AAP is the problem, its not. ALL the kids should be taught to AAP standards. Beyond that, its on the parents to tell the kids to reach for the sky and set that expectation. My kids are all very happy, btw, not a single anxiety drug or problem kid among them. They have their relative strengths and weaknesses, but they respect education, authority and parents.

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Anonymous wrote:I will say I know one family whose kids went gen ed and went to W&M and UVA. Smart kids - took all honors/AP in HS. That said, I know one family. If you are serious about academics I suggest you have your kid ready in second grade if they are on that path. If they can't, no shade. But if its your wanting to live organically and be lazy, you will have the troubled kids in the class with your gen ed kids taking 80% of the oxygen. Its not right, its not fair, its reality. Part of the pledge of meeting the educational needs of every student. Students in AAP are not that much smarter but they are smart enough to get in the right lane, or their parents are.

I don’t agree with this take at all. Some kids aren’t going to do really well on the NNAT and CogAT (or whatever they use now) even if they can do well on SOLs and handle Honors and AP classes in MS and HS. Not everyone is good at those pattern recognition/spatial type questions. You can’t blame parents for not wanting to push their 7 year olds into being good at something they’re not just because of an unfounded fear that Gen Ed is some kind of wasteland. Stop playing on people’s fears and making them feel guilty. Kids with involved parents will be good either way.