Hayfield Football Coach Fired

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FrankWinston wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What a bullshit letter from Reid.


What letter?


November 20, 2024

Dear FCPS Community,

I am writing to address the continued — and troubling — misinformation being shared regarding this high school football season, and more specifically about the Hayfield Hawks football team. I also want to share with you our plan moving forward regarding this situation.

Let me begin by saying that all of our coaches, our school leaders, our community, and the Virginia High School League (VHSL) share a commitment to the success of our student athletes. We want our students to have passion for their sport and to play every game with integrity and sportsmanship above all else.

The VHSL is an important organization that has the tremendous responsibility of overseeing high school sports and other competitions across the Commonwealth. We appreciate the work they do, but in this situation, we share the frustration that many of our staff and families are feeling.

In August of this year, VHSL deemed eligible every player who has played this season on the Hayfield Hawks football team. Two months later, the VHSL declared the entire team ineligible for postseason play without any specific evidence of recruiting or other violations. Coaches, athletes, parents, and fans are frustrated by the circumstances that their teams are in now, because of the ambiguities within the VHSL’s rules and policies.

Last week, these inconsistencies were confirmed by the Fairfax County Circuit Court judge who, after a nearly two-hour hearing, ruled that Hayfield football could play in the postseason and that VHSL had violated its own rules by imposing a two-year ban. FCPS and Hayfield Secondary School are not parties to this litigation, but we will comply with the court ruling and allow Hayfield football to play in the postseason.

Last night, at their request, I met with coaches and principals whose school communities have been most directly impacted by this situation. During this productive meeting, we focused on our common goal to keep our student athletes at the center of any next steps. I have been clear that we will not find ourselves in this situation again.

To that end, and to minimize the potential of future questions or concerns, and to restore public trust, I have outlined the next steps we will be taking as a Division to ensure that our standards for student-athlete eligibility are clear and aligned moving forward. These steps include:

A comprehensive and independent external investigation and review of all student athlete transfers and eligibility practices across all sports and in all of our high schools.

A review and revision, where necessary, to FCPS athletic protocols and procedures. Led by the Office of Student Activities and Athletics programs, and in partnership with coaches and administrators, this will include a divisionwide review of current practices in evaluating student athlete transfers both inside and outside of the Division.

Alongside our Executive Director of Student Activities and Athletics, I will be hosting two Community Conversations, one for our schools in Class 6 Region C and one for our schools in Class 6 Region D, regarding our athletic regulations and practices. We’ll be sharing more information about those meetings soon and hope you will attend.

We also stand ready to work with the VHSL to improve their policies and processes on student-athlete eligibility. It is vital that we collaborate with everyone involved to ensure we are preparing for the evolution of the student-athlete experience that we are seeing in our country. As we navigate uncharted waters ahead in youth athletics, we must anchor our practices in clear rules and accountability systems that apply to all regardless of circumstances. Access to excellence and opportunity — that is the American dream.

Warmest Regards,



Dr. Michelle C. Reid
Superintendent

She’s right. They banned Hayfield without any specific proof of violation. It was "I’m white and I say Hayfield can’t play”. They probably didn’t expect Hayfield’s parents to have the resources to hire an attorney and fight.


1. Do we have proof that all 24 transfers live within Hayfield's boundaries? Answer: No.
2. Do we know for a fact that at least nine were deemed ineligible? Answer: Yes.
3. Do we have Hayfield football parents on the record noting that the only reason they transferred was for athletic purposes? Answer: Yes.

So, in short, we have several "specific proof of violation." By the way, learn basic English. Hayfield parents denying facts and trying to justify their cheating is beyond sad. They're unfit to raise children.


#2 is where you f* up you're own argument.
2. Do we know for a fact that at least nine were deemed ineligible? Answer: Yes. Next question should be.
3. While those 9 were deemed ineligible did they participate in any games? Answer: No
4. Did VHSL clear any of those 9 that were initially deemed ineligible? Yes, 6 of them. The other 3 have not practiced, played or participated this season.
5. Did Hayfield at any point in the season allow an ineligible player to participate? No.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.audacy.com/stations/thefandc/shows/grant-danny-faafd/episodes/dcd0a325208e/chapters/c6daf86bf6be

Is it true that other there were times that coaches would tell their teams to take delay of games after the mercy rule running clock went into effect to limit the damage? That is INSANE. Those coaches should be fired. At the end of the day, it's still a tactical game regardless of the talent you have. If you're a good coach, you can scheme something up or coach up the team to figure it out the best way you can with what you have.


So just making sure, if you were a parent of player on a team that did not violate VHSL rules, was losing by 40 and several players had already been injured, with one taken away by ambulance, you would want coaches to continue to put up their kids for further injury? No judgment if you do, but don’t have judgment if parents want to keep their kids safe.


Football is a dangerous game, injuries unfortunately do happen, but u doubt as he has a nephew playing that he would purposefully have or try to injure kids
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There's been zero proof presented of any other team in fcps recruiting or otherwise violating vhsl rules.


LadyBroadcaster’s video
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
FrankWinston wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What a bullshit letter from Reid.


What letter?


November 20, 2024

Dear FCPS Community,

I am writing to address the continued — and troubling — misinformation being shared regarding this high school football season, and more specifically about the Hayfield Hawks football team. I also want to share with you our plan moving forward regarding this situation.

Let me begin by saying that all of our coaches, our school leaders, our community, and the Virginia High School League (VHSL) share a commitment to the success of our student athletes. We want our students to have passion for their sport and to play every game with integrity and sportsmanship above all else.

The VHSL is an important organization that has the tremendous responsibility of overseeing high school sports and other competitions across the Commonwealth. We appreciate the work they do, but in this situation, we share the frustration that many of our staff and families are feeling.

In August of this year, VHSL deemed eligible every player who has played this season on the Hayfield Hawks football team. Two months later, the VHSL declared the entire team ineligible for postseason play without any specific evidence of recruiting or other violations. Coaches, athletes, parents, and fans are frustrated by the circumstances that their teams are in now, because of the ambiguities within the VHSL’s rules and policies.

Last week, these inconsistencies were confirmed by the Fairfax County Circuit Court judge who, after a nearly two-hour hearing, ruled that Hayfield football could play in the postseason and that VHSL had violated its own rules by imposing a two-year ban. FCPS and Hayfield Secondary School are not parties to this litigation, but we will comply with the court ruling and allow Hayfield football to play in the postseason.

Last night, at their request, I met with coaches and principals whose school communities have been most directly impacted by this situation. During this productive meeting, we focused on our common goal to keep our student athletes at the center of any next steps. I have been clear that we will not find ourselves in this situation again.

To that end, and to minimize the potential of future questions or concerns, and to restore public trust, I have outlined the next steps we will be taking as a Division to ensure that our standards for student-athlete eligibility are clear and aligned moving forward. These steps include:

A comprehensive and independent external investigation and review of all student athlete transfers and eligibility practices across all sports and in all of our high schools.

A review and revision, where necessary, to FCPS athletic protocols and procedures. Led by the Office of Student Activities and Athletics programs, and in partnership with coaches and administrators, this will include a divisionwide review of current practices in evaluating student athlete transfers both inside and outside of the Division.

Alongside our Executive Director of Student Activities and Athletics, I will be hosting two Community Conversations, one for our schools in Class 6 Region C and one for our schools in Class 6 Region D, regarding our athletic regulations and practices. We’ll be sharing more information about those meetings soon and hope you will attend.

We also stand ready to work with the VHSL to improve their policies and processes on student-athlete eligibility. It is vital that we collaborate with everyone involved to ensure we are preparing for the evolution of the student-athlete experience that we are seeing in our country. As we navigate uncharted waters ahead in youth athletics, we must anchor our practices in clear rules and accountability systems that apply to all regardless of circumstances. Access to excellence and opportunity — that is the American dream.

Warmest Regards,



Dr. Michelle C. Reid
Superintendent

She’s right. They banned Hayfield without any specific proof of violation. It was "I’m white and I say Hayfield can’t play”. They probably didn’t expect Hayfield’s parents to have the resources to hire an attorney and fight.


1. Do we have proof that all 24 transfers live within Hayfield's boundaries? Answer: No.
2. Do we know for a fact that at least nine were deemed ineligible? Answer: Yes.
3. Do we have Hayfield football parents on the record noting that the only reason they transferred was for athletic purposes? Answer: Yes.

So, in short, we have several "specific proof of violation." By the way, learn basic English. Hayfield parents denying facts and trying to justify their cheating is beyond sad. They're unfit to raise children.


#2 is where you f* up you're own argument.
2. Do we know for a fact that at least nine were deemed ineligible? Answer: Yes. Next question should be.
3. While those 9 were deemed ineligible did they participate in any games? Answer: No
4. Did VHSL clear any of those 9 that were initially deemed ineligible? Yes, 6 of them. The other 3 have not practiced, played or participated this season.
5. Did Hayfield at any point in the season allow an ineligible player to participate? No.


Which is why you didn't have VHSL making the much simpler "you have to forfeit a bunch of games because ineligible players participated" argument, but the more complicated proselytizing argument.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's been zero proof presented of any other team in fcps recruiting or otherwise violating vhsl rules.


LadyBroadcaster’s video


Lady Monet? Her video only proves HAYFIELD did it.
Not any other school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
FrankWinston wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm so tired of cheaters always getting away with it


Me to, I don't like it when South County does it, I don't like it when Fairfax does it and I don't like it when Hayfield does it.


I didn't realize that Fairfax and South County brought in 20+ transfers in one season. Thanks for keeping me in the know.


I didn't realize VHSL placed a number on right/wrong. Thanks for acknowledging wrongdoing is ok, as long as you don't do too much.


DP. You're very cute but yes, there is often room for a little bit of fudging with rules, e.g., five over the speed limit. But going way over the line is too far.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Certainly Reid is planning on attending this game to show her support for Hayfield and against Edison? I would pay $10 just to give her a piece of my mind.


Her email was so out of touch with the sentiment in the county on this issue...is she really so clueless/insulated from what normal families think? Or is she so arrogant that she thinks she can just wave away objections?

No one except Hayfield parents agree with her. No one.
Anonymous
Reid hit send on that email and then put on a Groucho Marx disguise to wear in public the next few weeks.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Really looking forward to the chant starting in the stands tonight of "CHEATERS! CHEATERS! CHEATERS!"

Hint, hint.


Again, an adult scheming ways of picking on kids and not appropriately handling this via adult routes. What is wrong with you?


The chanting is directed at the coaches.


And will the kids understand this as the crowd boos?

This is high school football, not a political protest. A hearing is coming up. FCPS will be revising rules. School board elections will come. You are an adult - show your voice using adult routes. Calm down and control your emotions. Grow up. Leave kids out of your drama.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
FrankWinston wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm so tired of cheaters always getting away with it


Me to, I don't like it when South County does it, I don't like it when Fairfax does it and I don't like it when Hayfield does it.


I didn't realize that Fairfax and South County brought in 20+ transfers in one season. Thanks for keeping me in the know.


I didn't realize VHSL placed a number on right/wrong. Thanks for acknowledging wrongdoing is ok, as long as you don't do too much.


DP. You're very cute but yes, there is often room for a little bit of fudging with rules, e.g., five over the speed limit. But going way over the line is too far.


Agree. I personally think VHSL shouldn't be OK with 1 or 2 transfers, but it's been clear over the decades they are. It's when it becomes egregious that they clamp down. 31 is egregious.

It might not be right, but it sure appears to be how they operated. Not going to help them in court, of course.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:OMG this thread is so awesome.

Rich entitled NOVA parents who think their kid is special and somehow in their way to making it to the NFL or an SEC school and somehow Hayfield is stopping their kids from getting there. This is peak NOVA and I love the drama. My kids went to Annandale and managed to make it to great schools and grad schools based on academics and soccer, but this football drama is so juicy. Keep it going I’m loving this


You've got the wrong district, dear. These schools aren't for the rich families. But of course, only the other posters on this thread are drama queens, not you.


If your kids go to west Springfield, Lake Braddock or Robinson you’re rich.

Nine of these kids are making an SEC school to play D1 football. If they are it’s like ok out of all of these schools.

This is peak NOVA and peak FFX. I love it


Doesn't the hayfield team have multiple kids commited to D1 schools?


And your point is? Kids that are coached at good programs have kids that get multiple scholarships. Doesn’t it happen in baseball n basketball
Anonymous
McElveen put out a statement criticizing Reid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Really looking forward to the chant starting in the stands tonight of "CHEATERS! CHEATERS! CHEATERS!"

Hint, hint.


Again, an adult scheming ways of picking on kids and not appropriately handling this via adult routes. What is wrong with you?


The chanting is directed at the coaches.


And will the kids understand this as the crowd boos?

This is high school football, not a political protest. A hearing is coming up. FCPS will be revising rules. School board elections will come. You are an adult - show your voice using adult routes. Calm down and control your emotions. Grow up. Leave kids out of your drama.


DP. There is a problem with cheating in academic classes. This is a problem with cheating in an extracurricular. Adults should not look the other way. And neither should other students. If adults and students start calling out cheating, the culture will change. That would be an excellent thing!

(These football player students know they have cheated. The question is whether they get away with it or not.)
Anonymous
When will we know if Edison decides to play? My son and his friends want to go to support Edison but its a drive for us. I dont want to schlep out there for nothing.
Anonymous
Similar to prosecutors that want to make sure cases air tight before take them to court. 1 player may be risky to charge a violation. Suspect VHSL saw this one as slam dunk. Clearly did not see Reid coming.
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