SWW Principal Removed - Reason Unknown

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Ya, sure. We all believe this is all about some vaguely worded admissions impropriety rather than opposing the mayor’s school reopening plan. Feel free to believe DCPS if you choose but trust me, this will come back and bite you one day as DCPS and the mayor do not tolerate dissent and this is just one example

Sadly the insider lottery cheating in DCPS is so pervasive that I could easily believe both of these things are true.

Sorry, there is zero evidence that this is a thing. The only recent improprieties were made public and there were serious repercussions. Please take your conspiracy theories to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave while you also search for voter fraud.

I'm late this this thread but it is a thing. I don't live in DC anymore and I'm only lurking on here because I like to keep up with dc school things. But when we moved to DC, I applied for jobs right away. I got a job at a school with a wait list (I didn't even realize there were wait lists at the time, we literally were so brand new). I asked if my child was allowed to go to school where I worked when they offered me the job and they said yes. Looking back, I assume he jumped the list. I didn't realize it until I had been working in dcps for a few months and started to learn about the processes. We moved not too long after that and I was only there for a year so we stopped going to that school. But it does happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ya, sure. We all believe this is all about some vaguely worded admissions impropriety rather than opposing the mayor’s school reopening plan. Feel free to believe DCPS if you choose but trust me, this will come back and bite you one day as DCPS and the mayor do not tolerate dissent and this is just one example

Sadly the insider lottery cheating in DCPS is so pervasive that I could easily believe both of these things are true.

Sorry, there is zero evidence that this is a thing. The only recent improprieties were made public and there were serious repercussions. Please take your conspiracy theories to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave while you also search for voter fraud.

I'm late this this thread but it is a thing. I don't live in DC anymore and I'm only lurking on here because I like to keep up with dc school things. But when we moved to DC, I applied for jobs right away. I got a job at a school with a wait list (I didn't even realize there were wait lists at the time, we literally were so brand new). I asked if my child was allowed to go to school where I worked when they offered me the job and they said yes. Looking back, I assume he jumped the list. I didn't realize it until I had been working in dcps for a few months and started to learn about the processes. We moved not too long after that and I was only there for a year so we stopped going to that school. But it does happen.

But when was this? It makes a big difference whether it was 8 years ago or 2 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ya, sure. We all believe this is all about some vaguely worded admissions impropriety rather than opposing the mayor’s school reopening plan. Feel free to believe DCPS if you choose but trust me, this will come back and bite you one day as DCPS and the mayor do not tolerate dissent and this is just one example

Sadly the insider lottery cheating in DCPS is so pervasive that I could easily believe both of these things are true.

Sorry, there is zero evidence that this is a thing. The only recent improprieties were made public and there were serious repercussions. Please take your conspiracy theories to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave while you also search for voter fraud.

I'm late this this thread but it is a thing. I don't live in DC anymore and I'm only lurking on here because I like to keep up with dc school things. But when we moved to DC, I applied for jobs right away. I got a job at a school with a wait list (I didn't even realize there were wait lists at the time, we literally were so brand new). I asked if my child was allowed to go to school where I worked when they offered me the job and they said yes. Looking back, I assume he jumped the list. I didn't realize it until I had been working in dcps for a few months and started to learn about the processes. We moved not too long after that and I was only there for a year so we stopped going to that school. But it does happen.

But when was this? It makes a big difference whether it was 8 years ago or 2 years ago.

I feel weird saying exactly what school year but it was recent. I honestly didn't even know the lottery was a thing at the time. I applied for jobs and asked when I was offered and they said sure. I don't know if it happens a lot. I doubt it happens a lot but it did seem to happen to us.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how the Banneker folks are feeling so proud when they only graduate less than 20 kids with IB diplomas each year and they are a preferential admissions school?

Banneker is a magnet in name only. They make most of the incoming 9th graders repeat 8th grade math. My kid is at Banneker for 9th. Not impressed so far. Forced to repeat 8th grade math with 75% of the incoming class. Way too much hw, decent amount of busy work. My kid did not get into Walls but wants to apply again for next year. School communication is terrible. All the emphasis seems to be on academic work. No clubs or activities. If this is the best DCPS can offer, it is sad.

That’s the way Banneker has been for years. And I think the forcing everyone to take Algebra I in 9th grade makes the school much less appealing to kids in advanced math classes in middle school.

It makes sense when you realize that Algebra I in 8th grade is often a recipe for disaster. It is better to get every student on the same page, especially in math than to push kids, many of whom did not get adequate instruction on the subject in middle school, to higher levels of math just so the school can look good.

At Walls, despite my DS literally begging anyone who would listen to let him retake algebra I freshman year, they forced him to take geometry, and then algebra II. They straight up told me when I brought it up that the only reason DS wanted to take algebra I was so he could get an 'easy A' on a subject he already knew. This despite the fact that on multiple occasions DS had explained that his algebra I teacher left his middle school a few months into the school year he was taking it, and the remainder of the class had been taught by a rotating cast of substitutes, administrators, and younger grade math teachers who had never taught the subject before.

And from my experience not just with DS, but also with my younger kids (who, for obvious reasons, did not go to that middle school) and kids I knew is that the quality of Algebra I classes in middle school is not nearly as good as in high schools, and many schools, especially 10-12 years ago when it was the 'hot new thing' in middle school education to teach it, were not prepared to teach it effectively. While kids who are naturally gifted at math can generally piece it together, many who are not (like DS) were utterly failed. And this decision can set people back, math requires people to understand each piece before moving on, and I honestly think that one decision to refuse to let DS retake Algebra I seriously hurt his mathematical understanding for years to come.

Especially at a school like Banneker - whose student population tends to be less well off then Walls or Wilson or other comparable environments - it makes total sense to teach every student Algebra I as a building block to ensure competency. It actually fits right into their mold, which is a highly academic institution designed to provide a challenging, but effective education using more traditional methods. It is not a school for everyone - they have been very open about that - its not the school for the parents who want their kid to get an associates degree at high school graduation, or for kids who don't have the drive to succeed under traditional educational concepts - but its outcomes are far better then those at comparable schools because those traditional concepts - hard work, repetition, high expectations - are highly effective.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Foggy Bottom and West End ANCs jointly passed a resolution condemning Trogish's firing, and demanded his reinstatement:

https://www.gwhatchet.com/2020/10/23/anc-demands-dcps-to-reinstate-recently-fired-school-without-walls-principal/

From the article:

“School Without Walls High School is the closest public school in America to the White House, and the transparently cruel methods of silencing and terminating a whistleblower do not represent to our nation the values of the citizens of the District of Columbia, nor the concern that we have for our children and educators that our schools be reopened safely,” the resolution states.

ancs are the worst. they contribute nothing to DC and only serve to create red tape.

Says a voice of one, as if a solitary voice has any merit when held up against the city's political structure.

The article says Trogisch is a "whistleblower." Sounds ominous for DCPS.

lol. no, he’s no whistleblower. if we was, we would have his full story. we just have innuendo and entitled parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ya, sure. We all believe this is all about some vaguely worded admissions impropriety rather than opposing the mayor’s school reopening plan. Feel free to believe DCPS if you choose but trust me, this will come back and bite you one day as DCPS and the mayor do not tolerate dissent and this is just one example

Sadly the insider lottery cheating in DCPS is so pervasive that I could easily believe both of these things are true.

Sorry, there is zero evidence that this is a thing. The only recent improprieties were made public and there were serious repercussions. Please take your conspiracy theories to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave while you also search for voter fraud.

I'm late this this thread but it is a thing. I don't live in DC anymore and I'm only lurking on here because I like to keep up with dc school things. But when we moved to DC, I applied for jobs right away. I got a job at a school with a wait list (I didn't even realize there were wait lists at the time, we literally were so brand new). I asked if my child was allowed to go to school where I worked when they offered me the job and they said yes. Looking back, I assume he jumped the list. I didn't realize it until I had been working in dcps for a few months and started to learn about the processes. We moved not too long after that and I was only there for a year so we stopped going to that school. But it does happen.

But when was this? It makes a big difference whether it was 8 years ago or 2 years ago.

I feel weird saying exactly what school year but it was recent. I honestly didn't even know the lottery was a thing at the time. I applied for jobs and asked when I was offered and they said sure. I don't know if it happens a lot. I doubt it happens a lot but it did seem to happen to us.

Was it DCPS rather than a charter? Only because the latter is allowed to give a teacher preference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ya, sure. We all believe this is all about some vaguely worded admissions impropriety rather than opposing the mayor’s school reopening plan. Feel free to believe DCPS if you choose but trust me, this will come back and bite you one day as DCPS and the mayor do not tolerate dissent and this is just one example

Sadly the insider lottery cheating in DCPS is so pervasive that I could easily believe both of these things are true.

Sorry, there is zero evidence that this is a thing. The only recent improprieties were made public and there were serious repercussions. Please take your conspiracy theories to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave while you also search for voter fraud.

I'm late this this thread but it is a thing. I don't live in DC anymore and I'm only lurking on here because I like to keep up with dc school things. But when we moved to DC, I applied for jobs right away. I got a job at a school with a wait list (I didn't even realize there were wait lists at the time, we literally were so brand new). I asked if my child was allowed to go to school where I worked when they offered me the job and they said yes. Looking back, I assume he jumped the list. I didn't realize it until I had been working in dcps for a few months and started to learn about the processes. We moved not too long after that and I was only there for a year so we stopped going to that school. But it does happen.

But when was this? It makes a big difference whether it was 8 years ago or 2 years ago.

I feel weird saying exactly what school year but it was recent. I honestly didn't even know the lottery was a thing at the time. I applied for jobs and asked when I was offered and they said sure. I don't know if it happens a lot. I doubt it happens a lot but it did seem to happen to us.

Was it DCPS rather than a charter? Only because the latter is allowed to give a teacher preference.

DCPS. I'd say one that has mid popularity. I didn't realize until after I started it had a wait list for the grade level that my child was in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how the Banneker folks are feeling so proud when they only graduate less than 20 kids with IB diplomas each year and they are a preferential admissions school?

Banneker is a magnet in name only. They make most of the incoming 9th graders repeat 8th grade math. My kid is at Banneker for 9th. Not impressed so far. Forced to repeat 8th grade math with 75% of the incoming class. Way too much hw, decent amount of busy work. My kid did not get into Walls but wants to apply again for next year. School communication is terrible. All the emphasis seems to be on academic work. No clubs or activities. If this is the best DCPS can offer, it is sad.

That’s the way Banneker has been for years. And I think the forcing everyone to take Algebra I in 9th grade makes the school much less appealing to kids in advanced math classes in middle school.

It makes sense when you realize that Algebra I in 8th grade is often a recipe for disaster. It is better to get every student on the same page, especially in math than to push kids, many of whom did not get adequate instruction on the subject in middle school, to higher levels of math just so the school can look good.

At Walls, despite my DS literally begging anyone who would listen to let him retake algebra I freshman year, they forced him to take geometry, and then algebra II. They straight up told me when I brought it up that the only reason DS wanted to take algebra I was so he could get an 'easy A' on a subject he already knew. This despite the fact that on multiple occasions DS had explained that his algebra I teacher left his middle school a few months into the school year he was taking it, and the remainder of the class had been taught by a rotating cast of substitutes, administrators, and younger grade math teachers who had never taught the subject before.

And from my experience not just with DS, but also with my younger kids (who, for obvious reasons, did not go to that middle school) and kids I knew is that the quality of Algebra I classes in middle school is not nearly as good as in high schools, and many schools, especially 10-12 years ago when it was the 'hot new thing' in middle school education to teach it, were not prepared to teach it effectively. While kids who are naturally gifted at math can generally piece it together, many who are not (like DS) were utterly failed. And this decision can set people back, math requires people to understand each piece before moving on, and I honestly think that one decision to refuse to let DS retake Algebra I seriously hurt his mathematical understanding for years to come.

Especially at a school like Banneker - whose student population tends to be less well off then Walls or Wilson or other comparable environments - it makes total sense to teach every student Algebra I as a building block to ensure competency. It actually fits right into their mold, which is a highly academic institution designed to provide a challenging, but effective education using more traditional methods. It is not a school for everyone - they have been very open about that - its not the school for the parents who want their kid to get an associates degree at high school graduation, or for kids who don't have the drive to succeed under traditional educational concepts - but its outcomes are far better then those at comparable schools because those traditional concepts - hard work, repetition, high expectations - are highly effective.

I am surprised to hear they made your DS take Geometry instead of Alg I at Walls, and am sorry they didn’t allow a student who was advocating for themselves take the best class for him.

Banneker is a really good school and I agree it has a very specific mission. What needs to be mentioned is that kids are counseled out of the school, especially boys, at quite a high rate. There are questionable practices around supporting some students versus pushing them out of the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how the Banneker folks are feeling so proud when they only graduate less than 20 kids with IB diplomas each year and they are a preferential admissions school?

Banneker is a magnet in name only. They make most of the incoming 9th graders repeat 8th grade math. My kid is at Banneker for 9th. Not impressed so far. Forced to repeat 8th grade math with 75% of the incoming class. Way too much hw, decent amount of busy work. My kid did not get into Walls but wants to apply again for next year. School communication is terrible. All the emphasis seems to be on academic work. No clubs or activities. If this is the best DCPS can offer, it is sad.

That’s the way Banneker has been for years. And I think the forcing everyone to take Algebra I in 9th grade makes the school much less appealing to kids in advanced math classes in middle school.

It makes sense when you realize that Algebra I in 8th grade is often a recipe for disaster. It is better to get every student on the same page, especially in math than to push kids, many of whom did not get adequate instruction on the subject in middle school, to higher levels of math just so the school can look good.

At Walls, despite my DS literally begging anyone who would listen to let him retake algebra I freshman year, they forced him to take geometry, and then algebra II. They straight up told me when I brought it up that the only reason DS wanted to take algebra I was so he could get an 'easy A' on a subject he already knew. This despite the fact that on multiple occasions DS had explained that his algebra I teacher left his middle school a few months into the school year he was taking it, and the remainder of the class had been taught by a rotating cast of substitutes, administrators, and younger grade math teachers who had never taught the subject before.

And from my experience not just with DS, but also with my younger kids (who, for obvious reasons, did not go to that middle school) and kids I knew is that the quality of Algebra I classes in middle school is not nearly as good as in high schools, and many schools, especially 10-12 years ago when it was the 'hot new thing' in middle school education to teach it, were not prepared to teach it effectively. While kids who are naturally gifted at math can generally piece it together, many who are not (like DS) were utterly failed. And this decision can set people back, math requires people to understand each piece before moving on, and I honestly think that one decision to refuse to let DS retake Algebra I seriously hurt his mathematical understanding for years to come.

Especially at a school like Banneker - whose student population tends to be less well off then Walls or Wilson or other comparable environments - it makes total sense to teach every student Algebra I as a building block to ensure competency. It actually fits right into their mold, which is a highly academic institution designed to provide a challenging, but effective education using more traditional methods. It is not a school for everyone - they have been very open about that - its not the school for the parents who want their kid to get an associates degree at high school graduation, or for kids who don't have the drive to succeed under traditional educational concepts - but its outcomes are far better then those at comparable schools because those traditional concepts - hard work, repetition, high expectations - are highly effective.

I am surprised to hear they made your DS take Geometry instead of Alg I at Walls, and am sorry they didn’t allow a student who was advocating for themselves take the best class for him.

Banneker is a really good school and I agree it has a very specific mission. What needs to be mentioned is that kids are counseled out of the school, especially boys, at quite a high rate. There are questionable practices around supporting some students versus pushing them out of the school.

+1000. Signed, mom of a son who went to Banneker for 3 years.

[Anonymous]

Here is the petition to #ReinstateRich if some of you have not seen it --

https://twitter.com/hashtag/ReinstateRich?src=hashtag_click

[Anonymous]

I thought it was because he is white + The Mayor wants to have a black hearing its show case school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how the Banneker folks are feeling so proud when they only graduate less than 20 kids with IB diplomas each year and they are a preferential admissions school?

Banneker is a magnet in name only. They make most of the incoming 9th graders repeat 8th grade math. My kid is at Banneker for 9th. Not impressed so far. Forced to repeat 8th grade math with 75% of the incoming class. Way too much hw, decent amount of busy work. My kid did not get into Walls but wants to apply again for next year. School communication is terrible. All the emphasis seems to be on academic work. No clubs or activities. If this is the best DCPS can offer, it is sad.

That’s the way Banneker has been for years. And I think the forcing everyone to take Algebra I in 9th grade makes the school much less appealing to kids in advanced math classes in middle school.

It makes sense when you realize that Algebra I in 8th grade is often a recipe for disaster. It is better to get every student on the same page, especially in math than to push kids, many of whom did not get adequate instruction on the subject in middle school, to higher levels of math just so the school can look good.

At Walls, despite my DS literally begging anyone who would listen to let him retake algebra I freshman year, they forced him to take geometry, and then algebra II. They straight up told me when I brought it up that the only reason DS wanted to take algebra I was so he could get an 'easy A' on a subject he already knew. This despite the fact that on multiple occasions DS had explained that his algebra I teacher left his middle school a few months into the school year he was taking it, and the remainder of the class had been taught by a rotating cast of substitutes, administrators, and younger grade math teachers who had never taught the subject before.

And from my experience not just with DS, but also with my younger kids (who, for obvious reasons, did not go to that middle school) and kids I knew is that the quality of Algebra I classes in middle school is not nearly as good as in high schools, and many schools, especially 10-12 years ago when it was the 'hot new thing' in middle school education to teach it, were not prepared to teach it effectively. While kids who are naturally gifted at math can generally piece it together, many who are not (like DS) were utterly failed. And this decision can set people back, math requires people to understand each piece before moving on, and I honestly think that one decision to refuse to let DS retake Algebra I seriously hurt his mathematical understanding for years to come.

Especially at a school like Banneker - whose student population tends to be less well off then Walls or Wilson or other comparable environments - it makes total sense to teach every student Algebra I as a building block to ensure competency. It actually fits right into their mold, which is a highly academic institution designed to provide a challenging, but effective education using more traditional methods. It is not a school for everyone - they have been very open about that - its not the school for the parents who want their kid to get an associates degree at high school graduation, or for kids who don't have the drive to succeed under traditional educational concepts - but its outcomes are far better then those at comparable schools because those traditional concepts - hard work, repetition, high expectations - are highly effective.

I have an 8th grader in Algebra 2 and geometry who wants to go to Banneker but now I feel neither Walls nor Banneker will meet him where he is. What do kids do if they are that ahead in math?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how the Banneker folks are feeling so proud when they only graduate less than 20 kids with IB diplomas each year and they are a preferential admissions school?

Banneker is a magnet in name only. They make most of the incoming 9th graders repeat 8th grade math. My kid is at Banneker for 9th. Not impressed so far. Forced to repeat 8th grade math with 75% of the incoming class. Way too much hw, decent amount of busy work. My kid did not get into Walls but wants to apply again for next year. School communication is terrible. All the emphasis seems to be on academic work. No clubs or activities. If this is the best DCPS can offer, it is sad.

That’s the way Banneker has been for years. And I think the forcing everyone to take Algebra I in 9th grade makes the school much less appealing to kids in advanced math classes in middle school.

It makes sense when you realize that Algebra I in 8th grade is often a recipe for disaster. It is better to get every student on the same page, especially in math than to push kids, many of whom did not get adequate instruction on the subject in middle school, to higher levels of math just so the school can look good.

At Walls, despite my DS literally begging anyone who would listen to let him retake algebra I freshman year, they forced him to take geometry, and then algebra II. They straight up told me when I brought it up that the only reason DS wanted to take algebra I was so he could get an 'easy A' on a subject he already knew. This despite the fact that on multiple occasions DS had explained that his algebra I teacher left his middle school a few months into the school year he was taking it, and the remainder of the class had been taught by a rotating cast of substitutes, administrators, and younger grade math teachers who had never taught the subject before.

And from my experience not just with DS, but also with my younger kids (who, for obvious reasons, did not go to that middle school) and kids I knew is that the quality of Algebra I classes in middle school is not nearly as good as in high schools, and many schools, especially 10-12 years ago when it was the 'hot new thing' in middle school education to teach it, were not prepared to teach it effectively. While kids who are naturally gifted at math can generally piece it together, many who are not (like DS) were utterly failed. And this decision can set people back, math requires people to understand each piece before moving on, and I honestly think that one decision to refuse to let DS retake Algebra I seriously hurt his mathematical understanding for years to come.

Especially at a school like Banneker - whose student population tends to be less well off then Walls or Wilson or other comparable environments - it makes total sense to teach every student Algebra I as a building block to ensure competency. It actually fits right into their mold, which is a highly academic institution designed to provide a challenging, but effective education using more traditional methods. It is not a school for everyone - they have been very open about that - its not the school for the parents who want their kid to get an associates degree at high school graduation, or for kids who don't have the drive to succeed under traditional educational concepts - but its outcomes are far better then those at comparable schools because those traditional concepts - hard work, repetition, high expectations - are highly effective.

I have an 8th grader in Algebra 2 and geometry who wants to go to Banneker but now I feel neither Walls nor Banneker will meet him where he is. What do kids do if they are that ahead in math?

I can’t speak for Banneker but At Walls your kid can take Pre-calc freshman year, Calculus sophomore year and then either statistics junior year or join the GW program junior year. Either way a solid group of seniors at Walls take GW math classes so your child would have options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought it was because he is white + The Mayor wants to have a black hearing its show case school.

Nice work, Racial Division Troll.

But you were too obvious this time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought it was because he is white + The Mayor wants to have a black hearing its show case school.

Nice work, Racial Division Troll.

But you were too obvious this time.

We're really getting their D-team trolls now, aren't we?