Yale discriminated against whites and Asians, per Justice Department

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares? Is there really any advantage to going to an ivy league school other than bragging rights? Ivy league schools are so last century.

If you don't care, then don't bother posting here. move on.

I don't really care if my kids attend ivies. Honestly, I don't expect them to. However, discrimination is wrong. Why should ivies get a pass at discriminating against people?

If you’re going to talk about “discrimination “, it would help to say what you mean by that. Picking a diverse class of strong students from different backgrounds with different interests is not how I would define it. Yale classes typically include students from most — if not all states and US territories. So a white kid from Montana might get a spot over yet another white kid from Connecticut. If the kid from Montana fences and overcame obstacles in his or her life and the kid from Connecticut has more commonly represented interests, the kid from Montana will have the edge. If people really want to address the issue of potential discrimination, they should be looking at ALL of the students who get in, including the legacies, and including the white kids. But that’s not what this case and these discussions have been about. No surprises there — given who’s supporting them.

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For those of you recommending a pure meritocratic approach, what exactly does that mean? Test scores are not exactly meritocratic with the amount of tutoring and coaching that goes on

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High test scores means the student has learned how to achieve high test scores. How valuable is that? What does that mean? Why would that translate into being a desirable match for a spot in incoming class?

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Anonymous wrote:URMs even from H or Yale typically don’t do well post-H or post-Yale. They do as well as mediocre white college grads from Podunk U.

Prove it. Based on what criteria? You haven’t even bothered to state what you mean by “do as well”. I’m guessing that you know very little about Harvard and Yale grads.

Employers don’t follow sheepskins. They evaluate their job candidates “holistically” - the same way Yale evaluates its applicants. This means Yale degree is approximately “downgraded” for URMs - the same way brain dead, meathead athletic recruits at Yale gets their degrees downgraded in the job market.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:URMs even from H or Yale typically don’t do well post-H or post-Yale. They do as well as mediocre white college grads from Podunk U.

Prove it. Based on what criteria? You haven’t even bothered to state what you mean by “do as well”. I’m guessing that you know very little about Harvard and Yale grads.

When was the last time you sought out Yale’s URM doctors to perform your life and death surgeries, their accountants to do your complicated accounting, their lawyers to defend you in the court of law? Never. Case closed.

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Anonymous wrote:High test scores means the student has learned how to achieve high test scores. How valuable is that? What does that mean? Why would that translate into being a desirable match for a spot in incoming class?

Aren’t test scores at least one indicator of how well someone comprehends the subject they are being tested on? Are tests absolutely meaningless to you?

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Anonymous wrote:High test scores means the student has learned how to achieve high test scores. How valuable is that? What does that mean? Why would that translate into being a desirable match for a spot in incoming class?

High test scores = high IQ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:URMs even from H or Yale typically don’t do well post-H or post-Yale. They do as well as mediocre white college grads from Podunk U.

Yup, sad that URMs still have to deal with racism in the workplace that affects their success in life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:High test scores means the student has learned how to achieve high test scores. How valuable is that? What does that mean? Why would that translate into being a desirable match for a spot in incoming class?

High test scores = high IQ.

Not true. High scores= high parental income. This has been shown in many studies. High income= tutoring, prepping, enrichment, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:High test scores means the student has learned how to achieve high test scores. How valuable is that? What does that mean? Why would that translate into being a desirable match for a spot in incoming class?

Low test scores = low IQ.

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Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that even Harvard, which presumably could skim the cream of the crop, can't find sufficient numbers of qualified URMs to meet their racial quotas and must provide significant handicaps to blacks and latinos.

Do you have proof of this? Citation? Or is it just your racist opinion? And no, a Breitbart article (or similar) is not proof.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those of you recommending a pure meritocratic approach, what exactly does that mean? Test scores are not exactly meritocratic with the amount of tutoring and coaching that goes on

Just do what UK, Germany, France, South Korea, Japan, Singapore and many other advanced countries do. None of them discriminate against applicants based on race like us.

[Anonymous]

https://news.yahoo.com/dont-asians-maintain-white-privilege-213348331.html

Relevant reading

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:High test scores means the student has learned how to achieve high test scores. How valuable is that? What does that mean? Why would that translate into being a desirable match for a spot in incoming class?

Low test scores = low IQ.

Lol. I would love to see your score after you attend a poorly funded, overcrowded, high school with a low ses population and then sit for the sat.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:High test scores means the student has learned how to achieve high test scores. How valuable is that? What does that mean? Why would that translate into being a desirable match for a spot in incoming class?

High test scores = high IQ.

Not true. High scores= high parental income. This has been shown in many studies. High income= tutoring, prepping, enrichment, etc.

If you want to go there,

Hi score = hi parental income = hi IQ
Low score = low income = low IQ.

SAT/ACT tests are proxies for IQ tests, which in turn is a proxy for high income i.e., full pay. If you don’t believe Yale or Harvard doesn’t care about full pays, I don’t know how to help you.