Yale discriminated against whites and Asians, per Justice Department

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:URMs even from H or Yale typically don’t do well post-H or post-Yale. They do as well as mediocre white college grads from Podunk U.


Prove it. Based on what criteria? You haven’t even bothered to state what you mean by “do as well”. I’m guessing that you know very little about Harvard and Yale grads.


When was the last time you sought out Yale’s URM doctors to perform your life and death surgeries, their accountants to do your complicated accounting, their lawyers to defend you in the court of law? Never. Case closed.


So you ask the question then declare “cased closed”. Clearly your education — such as it was — failed.

To answer your question, although you clearly aren’t interested in the answer: All the time.


It’s like joe Biden sayings he’ll make his fantasy administrations look like America. Nearly all his hi-level advisers are white males. That’s whom he trusts. He’s full of shit.

Or as Mr President Obama says, never underestimate the ol’ fart’s ability to f*** things up. Obama’s words, not mine.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that even Harvard, which presumably could skim the cream of the crop, can't find sufficient numbers of qualified URMs to meet their racial quotas and must provide significant handicaps to blacks and latinos.

Do you have proof of this? Citation? Or is it just your racist opinion? And no, a Breitbart article (or similar) is not proof.


It’s a known fact Ivies use affirmative action for their benefit. Relatively few American born blacks benefit. Ivies use affirmative action to scoop up full-pay African or Caribbean students.



DP: lol So: No. Really, making things up without citations really doesn’t bolster your argument or your credibility.


But it’s a known fact. Doesn’t that mean it must be true? If we can’t trust known facts what can we trust?


Don’t take my word for it. Google.
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/13/yale-illegally-discriminates-against-white-and-asian-students-justice-department-says.html

Fascinating to find an opposing ruling from the recent Harvard law suit. Are the admission preferences so drastically different, or was it simply a different evaluating body?


?? What ruling? The Harvard lawsuit was a court case that, after a trial, resulted in a ruling against the plaintiff.

This complaint you're citing is just an allegation by the Justice Department that, if it goes to trial, will also result in a loss. Yale just needs to mount the same defense Harvard did.


Promotion of underserved groups is totally justified given the educational barriers facing individuals and communities of color are tied to long-standing, systemic conditions. Racially segregated schooling, limited access to rigorous precollege curricula, poor college counseling, widening wealth gaps and other societal and historical forces all contribute to inequities in college access for too many students of color. It's time for those of us from privilege to speak aside and allow others to advance for a while.


blah blah blah systemic blah blah blah privilege. You can throw all the BS words into a sentence you want and it will not make it okay to racially discriminate against asians in college admissions


The dead giveaway for this tired poster is she only cares about one group (=ASIANS), not social justice or equal opportunity generally. Her instincts are ENTIRELY self-serving.

If her kids were black, she would be the loudest affirmative action advocate out there.

She has not principles, she only has insular interests. So much for the greater good.


I'm a man, and I'm white. Nice theory though bro
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that even Harvard, which presumably could skim the cream of the crop, can't find sufficient numbers of qualified URMs to meet their racial quotas and must provide significant handicaps to blacks and latinos.

Do you have proof of this? Citation? Or is it just your racist opinion? And no, a Breitbart article (or similar) is not proof.


It’s a known fact Ivies use affirmative action for their benefit. Relatively few American born blacks benefit. Ivies use affirmative action to scoop up full-pay African or Caribbean students.



DP: lol So: No. Really, making things up without citations really doesn’t bolster your argument or your credibility.


But it’s a known fact. Doesn’t that mean it must be true? If we can’t trust known facts what can we trust?


Lol!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that even Harvard, which presumably could skim the cream of the crop, can't find sufficient numbers of qualified URMs to meet their racial quotas and must provide significant handicaps to blacks and latinos.

Do you have proof of this? Citation? Or is it just your racist opinion? And no, a Breitbart article (or similar) is not proof.


It’s a known fact Ivies use affirmative action for their benefit. Relatively few American born blacks benefit. Ivies use affirmative action to scoop up full-pay African or Caribbean students.



DP: lol So: No. Really, making things up without citations really doesn’t bolster your argument or your credibility.


But it’s a known fact. Doesn’t that mean it must be true? If we can’t trust known facts what can we trust?


Don’t take my word for it. Google.


Assume you are referring to the stats from the late 1990s. Find something current or go away
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/13/yale-illegally-discriminates-against-white-and-asian-students-justice-department-says.html

Fascinating to find an opposing ruling from the recent Harvard law suit. Are the admission preferences so drastically different, or was it simply a different evaluating body?


?? What ruling? The Harvard lawsuit was a court case that, after a trial, resulted in a ruling against the plaintiff.

This complaint you're citing is just an allegation by the Justice Department that, if it goes to trial, will also result in a loss. Yale just needs to mount the same defense Harvard did.


Promotion of underserved groups is totally justified given the educational barriers facing individuals and communities of color are tied to long-standing, systemic conditions. Racially segregated schooling, limited access to rigorous precollege curricula, poor college counseling, widening wealth gaps and other societal and historical forces all contribute to inequities in college access for too many students of color. It's time for those of us from privilege to speak aside and allow others to advance for a while.


blah blah blah systemic blah blah blah privilege. You can throw all the BS words into a sentence you want and it will not make it okay to racially discriminate against asians in college admissions


The dead giveaway for this tired poster is she only cares about one group (=ASIANS), not social justice or equal opportunity generally. Her instincts are ENTIRELY self-serving.

If her kids were black, she would be the loudest affirmative action advocate out there.

She has not principles, she only has insular interests. So much for the greater good.


I'm a man, and I'm white. Nice theory though bro


White man who thinks systemic racism is a joke. What a surprise.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:URMs even from H or Yale typically don’t do well post-H or post-Yale. They do as well as mediocre white college grads from Podunk U.


Prove it. Based on what criteria? You haven’t even bothered to state what you mean by “do as well”. I’m guessing that you know very little about Harvard and Yale grads.


When was the last time you sought out Yale’s URM doctors to perform your life and death surgeries, their accountants to do your complicated accounting, their lawyers to defend you in the court of law? Never. Case closed.


So you ask the question then declare “cased closed”. Clearly your education — such as it was — failed.

To answer your question, although you clearly aren’t interested in the answer: All the time.


It’s like joe Biden sayings he’ll make his fantasy administrations look like America. Nearly all his hi-level advisers are white males. That’s whom he trusts. He’s full of shit.

Or as Mr President Obama says, never underestimate the ol’ fart’s ability to f*** things up. Obama’s words, not mine.


Man you’ve got that right. I’m sure if Biden became President he’d do something crazy like ignore a pandemic and crater the economy. What a moron!
Anonymous
Asian penalty is real, and it has been becoming worse in the last twenty years. It used to be the case that an Intel /Regeneron Science Competition semi-finalist (the top 300 HS students selected for the Intel Science Competition) can easily get into a T20 school. However, this is not the case anymore for Asians.

The notion of one-dimensional Asian is itself racial stereotype, and it's amazing that someone here is promoting it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:URMs even from H or Yale typically don’t do well post-H or post-Yale. They do as well as mediocre white college grads from Podunk U.


Prove it. Based on what criteria? You haven’t even bothered to state what you mean by “do as well”. I’m guessing that you know very little about Harvard and Yale grads.


When was the last time you sought out Yale’s URM doctors to perform your life and death surgeries, their accountants to do your complicated accounting, their lawyers to defend you in the court of law? Never. Case closed.


So you ask the question then declare “cased closed”. Clearly your education — such as it was — failed.

To answer your question, although you clearly aren’t interested in the answer: All the time.


It’s like joe Biden sayings he’ll make his fantasy administrations look like America. Nearly all his hi-level advisers are white males. That’s whom he trusts. He’s full of shit.

Or as Mr President Obama says, never underestimate the ol’ fart’s ability to f*** things up. Obama’s words, not mine.


Man you’ve got that right. I’m sure if Biden became President he’d do something crazy like ignore a pandemic and crater the economy. What a moron!


Trump didn’t crater the economy. It was the virus 🦠 in case you’ve in a cave these past 8 moths.
Anonymous
person, man, women, camera, TV.

I mean how many people can possibly remember that for 10 minutes? probably only a few billion at best and is Joe one of the few?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:https://news.yahoo.com/dont-asians-maintain-white-privilege-213348331.html

Relevant reading


Oh yes, Yahoo says it all. They publish only lefty articles, the same way Fox publishes only those on the right.


It’s originally from NBC news - which you would have realized if you had even bothered to click the link. Curious: Are there any less biased sources you find credible? Or are you more focused on denigrating everything for political reasons instead of actually evaluating the information on its own merits? Since NBC likely did some research, perhaps you could check out the original source materials and get back to us.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:High test scores means the student has learned how to achieve high test scores. How valuable is that? What does that mean? Why would that translate into being a desirable match for a spot in incoming class?


High test scores = high IQ.


You need the circular reasoning stupidity to be pointed out here, or should I let you be?

I can't help it.

IQ is determined by... ....wait for it... TEST SCORES!

So what you have typed is "High test scores =High test scores"

OK, hard to argue that.
Anonymous
IQ is not determined by test scores. you can have a high IQ and never take atest in your life.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Asian penalty is real, and it has been becoming worse in the last twenty years. It used to be the case that an Intel /Regeneron Science Competition semi-finalist (the top 300 HS students selected for the Intel Science Competition) can easily get into a T20 school. However, this is not the case anymore for Asians.

The notion of one-dimensional Asian is itself racial stereotype, and it's amazing that someone here is promoting it.


Nope. No one is promoting it. Several people are, however, asking others to define the parameters they’re using beyond test scores — so that we’re all talking about the same things. I have yet to see anyone actually do that vs sneering at the idea of “holistic “ criteria— while offering no specific alternatives.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:IQ is not determined by test scores. you can have a high IQ and never take atest in your life.


Lol: well, except for the IQ test.....

Do you have any idea what “IQ” actually means?
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