Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

[Anonymous]

China said on Saturday that it would suspend all tour groups and the sale of flight and hotel packages for its citizens headed overseas, starting on Monday. NY Times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:China said on Saturday that it would suspend all tour groups and the sale of flight and hotel packages for its citizens headed overseas, starting on Monday. NY Times.

Lessen the blip. Prob late for some cases but it lessens the strength of the spread?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:China said on Saturday that it would suspend all tour groups and the sale of flight and hotel packages for its citizens headed overseas, starting on Monday. NY Times.

Lessen the blip. Prob late for some cases but it lessens the strength of the spread?

No, just massively inconvenience a billion people. Already tens of millions have been massively inconvenienced. This is just more absurdity.

Unless the Chinese government knows something that we don't (the rumor of weaponization?).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:China said on Saturday that it would suspend all tour groups and the sale of flight and hotel packages for its citizens headed overseas, starting on Monday. NY Times.

Lessen the blip. Prob late for some cases but it lessens the strength of the spread?

No, just massively inconvenience a billion people. Already tens of millions have been massively inconvenienced. This is just more absurdity.

Unless the Chinese government knows something that we don't (the rumor of weaponization?).

They are building a new hospital and local social shows a story that is less about convenience.

[Anonymous]

Bioweapon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:China said on Saturday that it would suspend all tour groups and the sale of flight and hotel packages for its citizens headed overseas, starting on Monday. NY Times.

Lessen the blip. Prob late for some cases but it lessens the strength of the spread?

Lessen the blip at what cost? Would you be willing to have the entire DMV quarantined (no coming in or going out, no school, no work, no metro, no movies) for the chance that it would slow the transmission of a virus to the rest of the country, when we think the virus is about as deadly as a bad flu? Are you volunteering us for that? Because that is what it would take to lessen the blip.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:China said on Saturday that it would suspend all tour groups and the sale of flight and hotel packages for its citizens headed overseas, starting on Monday. NY Times.

Lessen the blip. Prob late for some cases but it lessens the strength of the spread?

Lessen the blip at what cost? Would you be willing to have the entire DMV quarantined (no coming in or going out, no school, no work, no metro, no movies) for the chance that it would slow the transmission of a virus to the rest of the country, when we think the virus is about as deadly as a bad flu? Are you volunteering us for that? Because that is what it would take to lessen the blip.

Absolutely lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good article that gives info and puts this virus in perspective. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/01/24/coronavirus-versus-flu-influenza-deadlier-than-wuhan-china-disease/4564133002/

“When we think about the relative danger of this new coronavirus and influenza, there’s just no comparison,” said Dr. William Schaffner, a professor of preventive medicine and health policy at Vanderbilt University Medical Center. “Coronavirus will be a blip on the horizon in comparison. The risk is trivial.”

A good reminder to all to get their flu shots if they haven't already.

However, I think the statement does not take into account the extent to which uncertainty colors people's perception of the relative dangers of influenza vs. the new coronavirus.

Influenza and its risks are very well understood, the treatment protocols are well-established, and there is a vaccine.

In contrast, we are struggling to understand the basics about coronavirus. How long are those without symptoms contagious? How contagious is it--is it airborne or is personal touch required for transmission. What is the best way to treat those who are symptomatic? What is the survival rate? And of course there is no vaccine.

So I agree that while at a purely objective level people in the US should be far more concerned about influenza than coronavirus, the uncertainty around the latter is bound to create more anxiety.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good article that gives info and puts this virus in perspective. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/01/24/coronavirus-versus-flu-influenza-deadlier-than-wuhan-china-disease/4564133002/

“When we think about the relative danger of this new coronavirus and influenza, there’s just no comparison,” said Dr. William Schaffner, a professor of preventive medicine and health policy at Vanderbilt University Medical Center. “Coronavirus will be a blip on the horizon in comparison. The risk is trivial.”

A good reminder to all to get their flu shots if they haven't already.

However, I think the statement does not take into account the extent to which uncertainty colors people's perception of the relative dangers of influenza vs. the new coronavirus.

Influenza and its risks are very well understood, the treatment protocols are well-established, and there is a vaccine.

In contrast, we are struggling to understand the basics about coronavirus. How long are those without symptoms contagious? How contagious is it--is it airborne or is personal touch required for transmission. What is the best way to treat those who are symptomatic? What is the survival rate? And of course there is no vaccine.

So I agree that while at a purely objective level people in the US should be far more concerned about influenza than coronavirus, the uncertainty around the latter is bound to create more anxiety.

To get a flu shot? They just confirmed that the vaccine that they used in 2019 do not match any flu viruses that came up this winter. Why would you get a flu shot? You better of just to put a bandaid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good article that gives info and puts this virus in perspective. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/01/24/coronavirus-versus-flu-influenza-deadlier-than-wuhan-china-disease/4564133002/

“When we think about the relative danger of this new coronavirus and influenza, there’s just no comparison,” said Dr. William Schaffner, a professor of preventive medicine and health policy at Vanderbilt University Medical Center. “Coronavirus will be a blip on the horizon in comparison. The risk is trivial.”

A good reminder to all to get their flu shots if they haven't already.

However, I think the statement does not take into account the extent to which uncertainty colors people's perception of the relative dangers of influenza vs. the new coronavirus.

Influenza and its risks are very well understood, the treatment protocols are well-established, and there is a vaccine.

In contrast, we are struggling to understand the basics about coronavirus. How long are those without symptoms contagious? How contagious is it--is it airborne or is personal touch required for transmission. What is the best way to treat those who are symptomatic? What is the survival rate? And of course there is no vaccine.

So I agree that while at a purely objective level people in the US should be far more concerned about influenza than coronavirus, the uncertainty around the latter is bound to create more anxiety.

To get a flu shot? They just confirmed that the vaccine that they used in 2019 do not match any flu viruses that came up this winter. Why would you get a flu shot? You better of just to put a bandaid.

This is NOT TRUE. Read this article - it's not a great match, but it still offers some protection. GET THE FLU SHOT.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/14/health/flu-vaccine-match/index.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good article that gives info and puts this virus in perspective. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/01/24/coronavirus-versus-flu-influenza-deadlier-than-wuhan-china-disease/4564133002/

“When we think about the relative danger of this new coronavirus and influenza, there’s just no comparison,” said Dr. William Schaffner, a professor of preventive medicine and health policy at Vanderbilt University Medical Center. “Coronavirus will be a blip on the horizon in comparison. The risk is trivial.”

A good reminder to all to get their flu shots if they haven't already.

However, I think the statement does not take into account the extent to which uncertainty colors people's perception of the relative dangers of influenza vs. the new coronavirus.

Influenza and its risks are very well understood, the treatment protocols are well-established, and there is a vaccine.

In contrast, we are struggling to understand the basics about coronavirus. How long are those without symptoms contagious? How contagious is it--is it airborne or is personal touch required for transmission. What is the best way to treat those who are symptomatic? What is the survival rate? And of course there is no vaccine.

So I agree that while at a purely objective level people in the US should be far more concerned about influenza than coronavirus, the uncertainty around the latter is bound to create more anxiety.

To get a flu shot? They just confirmed that the vaccine that they used in 2019 do not match any flu viruses that came up this winter. Why would you get a flu shot? You better of just to put a bandaid.

This is NOT TRUE. Read this article - it's not a great match, but it still offers some protection. GET THE FLU SHOT.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/14/health/flu-vaccine-match/index.html

PP posting about the differences in perception between influenza and coronavirus.

YES--this. Influenza presents far, far more risk of serious illness and death for US residents than the coronavirus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good article that gives info and puts this virus in perspective. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/01/24/coronavirus-versus-flu-influenza-deadlier-than-wuhan-china-disease/4564133002/

“When we think about the relative danger of this new coronavirus and influenza, there’s just no comparison,” said Dr. William Schaffner, a professor of preventive medicine and health policy at Vanderbilt University Medical Center. “Coronavirus will be a blip on the horizon in comparison. The risk is trivial.”

A good reminder to all to get their flu shots if they haven't already.

However, I think the statement does not take into account the extent to which uncertainty colors people's perception of the relative dangers of influenza vs. the new coronavirus.

Influenza and its risks are very well understood, the treatment protocols are well-established, and there is a vaccine.

In contrast, we are struggling to understand the basics about coronavirus. How long are those without symptoms contagious? How contagious is it--is it airborne or is personal touch required for transmission. What is the best way to treat those who are symptomatic? What is the survival rate? And of course there is no vaccine.

So I agree that while at a purely objective level people in the US should be far more concerned about influenza than coronavirus, the uncertainty around the latter is bound to create more anxiety.

To get a flu shot? They just confirmed that the vaccine that they used in 2019 do not match any flu viruses that came up this winter. Why would you get a flu shot? You better of just to put a bandaid.

This is NOT TRUE. Read this article - it's not a great match, but it still offers some protection. GET THE FLU SHOT.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/14/health/flu-vaccine-match/index.html[/quot


Yeah get the flu shot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good article that gives info and puts this virus in perspective. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/01/24/coronavirus-versus-flu-influenza-deadlier-than-wuhan-china-disease/4564133002/


So I agree that while at a purely objective level people in the US should be far more concerned about influenza than coronavirus, the uncertainty around the latter is bound to create more anxiety.

To get a flu shot? They just confirmed that the vaccine that they used in 2019 do not match any flu viruses that came up this winter. Why would you get a flu shot? You better of just to put a bandaid.

This is NOT TRUE. Read this article - it's not a great match, but it still offers some protection. GET THE FLU SHOT.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/14/health/flu-vaccine-match/index.html

No thank you. I've never had a flu, and I never had a flu shot. Now when we know that the flu vaccine effectivenes on a good year is 60% and on a bad year is 10 % (which is this year), I will stay away. Getting this year useless shot weakened your immune system when you need it to be strong to fight a new coronavirus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good article that gives info and puts this virus in perspective. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/01/24/coronavirus-versus-flu-influenza-deadlier-than-wuhan-china-disease/4564133002/


So I agree that while at a purely objective level people in the US should be far more concerned about influenza than coronavirus, the uncertainty around the latter is bound to create more anxiety.

To get a flu shot? They just confirmed that the vaccine that they used in 2019 do not match any flu viruses that came up this winter. Why would you get a flu shot? You better of just to put a bandaid.

This is NOT TRUE. Read this article - it's not a great match, but it still offers some protection. GET THE FLU SHOT.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/14/health/flu-vaccine-match/index.html

No thank you. I've never had a flu, and I never had a flu shot. Now when we know that the flu vaccine effectivenes on a good year is 60% and on a bad year is 10 % (which is this year), I will stay away. Getting this year useless shot weakened your immune system when you need it to be strong to fight a new coronavirus.

That is incorrect and not what vaccines do.

[Anonymous]

BBC is reporting that the US, France, and Russia are among the countries said to be working on ways to evacuate their citizens from Wuhan.