The lawsuit against Royal Caribbean/toddler death

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Anonymous wrote:The grandfather is in IT. I notice two types in the field: either they are extremely bright (very rare, contrary to how important DCUMers think they are) and have little or no common sense - or (and this is FAR more common) they just aren't that bright, period - but got into the field because they thought it was the trendy thing to do.

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A lot of these types are good with machines and awfully incompetent with anything living. Ask the wives of DCUM.

I haven't noticed anything of the sort. That's an unfortunate stereotype that is often applied to engineers and any other math/science minded field.

I can't speak to the other fields, but engineers are generally risk adverse. And that tends to bleed into every aspect of your life.

And apparently illiterate - the word is averse.

I bet you are fun at parties.

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Anonymous wrote:All the other people who were on the ship--their vacation was completely destroyed too. I'm sure some of them witness some horrific stuff and were traumatized. i think Grandpa should be held responsible for reimbursing them for actual damages (vacations costs) as well as "pain and suffering" for what they witnessed.

How far into the trip did this happen? What happened after? Did everyone have to leave the ship and the rest of the trip was cancelled?

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Anonymous wrote:Remember the lawyer had the media repeating that this happened in a children’s PLAY AREA. The lawyer is a lying dirt bag and should be disbarred. That news agencies blindly repeated the lawyer’s claims as fact is despicable.

To be fair, this is the walk area that goes around the pool deck which includes a children's play area. However, where they were, the walkway opens wider for an open space around the bar. They walked away from the pool area passed the bar over to the walkway and window. So, it may be that the grandfather is the one that pushed the children's play area, because they were there before they walked over to the window. But it was a significant distance away from the play area. There's no guarantee that this is just the lawyer pushing that it was a play area. This could have been the grandfather's own words.

Which side of the ship was this incident? The port side will always have open windows since this is "smoking" side.

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Anonymous wrote:All the other people who were on the ship--their vacation was completely destroyed too. I'm sure some of them witness some horrific stuff and were traumatized. i think Grandpa should be held responsible for reimbursing them for actual damages (vacations costs) as well as "pain and suffering" for what they witnessed.

How far into the trip did this happen? What happened after? Did everyone have to leave the ship and the rest of the trip was cancelled?

From what I've heard, the family had boarded that day, the ship was still docked/boarding and I don't think they had even had a chance to unpack before this happened.

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If it is true that Grandpa refused a breathalyzer, that is the answer right there.

Terribly sad and their cash grab is awful. I get it may be psychologically complicated in terms of family dynamics, but their response is unusual.

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Anonymous wrote:If it is true that Grandpa refused a breathalyzer, that is the answer right there.

Terribly sad and their cash grab is awful. I get it may be psychologically complicated in terms of family dynamics, but their response is unusual.

Wow. I hadn't heard that he had refused a breathalyzer, in fact, I thought that I read that alcohol/drugs did not play a role. Where did you see that he refused to take a breathalyzer?

But even if he had been drinking it doesn't excuse or explain what he did.

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Anonymous wrote:Remember the lawyer had the media repeating that this happened in a children’s PLAY AREA. The lawyer is a lying dirt bag and should be disbarred. That news agencies blindly repeated the lawyer’s claims as fact is despicable.

To be fair, this is the walk area that goes around the pool deck which includes a children's play area. However, where they were, the walkway opens wider for an open space around the bar. They walked away from the pool area passed the bar over to the walkway and window. So, it may be that the grandfather is the one that pushed the children's play area, because they were there before they walked over to the window. But it was a significant distance away from the play area. There's no guarantee that this is just the lawyer pushing that it was a play area. This could have been the grandfather's own words.

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PP, where did you see the grandfather refused a breathalyzer test? I googled, but am only coming up with blog posts and internet comments, no reputable source.

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Anonymous wrote:All the other people who were on the ship--their vacation was completely destroyed too. I'm sure some of them witness some horrific stuff and were traumatized. i think Grandpa should be held responsible for reimbursing them for actual damages (vacations costs) as well as "pain and suffering" for what they witnessed.

How far into the trip did this happen? What happened after? Did everyone have to leave the ship and the rest of the trip was cancelled?

From what I've heard, the family had boarded that day, the ship was still docked/boarding and I don't think they had even had a chance to unpack before this happened.

Instead of departing at 3/4pm, the ship didn't depart until later that evening, so police could investigate. Otherwise the trip for the other passengers was unaltered, including the itinerary.

As for grandpa, I read that he was cleared of drug/alcohol influence. I definitely haven't read of him refusing anything and I've followed pretty closely.

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Anonymous wrote:All the other people who were on the ship--their vacation was completely destroyed too. I'm sure some of them witness some horrific stuff and were traumatized. i think Grandpa should be held responsible for reimbursing them for actual damages (vacations costs) as well as "pain and suffering" for what they witnessed.

How far into the trip did this happen? What happened after? Did everyone have to leave the ship and the rest of the trip was cancelled?

From what I've heard, the family had boarded that day, the ship was still docked/boarding and I don't think they had even had a chance to unpack before this happened.

Instead of departing at 3/4pm, the ship didn't depart until later that evening, so police could investigate. Otherwise the trip for the other passengers was unaltered, including the itinerary.

As for grandpa, I read that he was cleared of drug/alcohol influence. I definitely haven't read of him refusing anything and I've followed pretty closely.

But do you really think passengers were able to enjoy themselves, after seeing THAT?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Remember the lawyer had the media repeating that this happened in a children’s PLAY AREA. The lawyer is a lying dirt bag and should be disbarred. That news agencies blindly repeated the lawyer’s claims as fact is despicable.

To be fair, this is the walk area that goes around the pool deck which includes a children's play area. However, where they were, the walkway opens wider for an open space around the bar. They walked away from the pool area passed the bar over to the walkway and window. So, it may be that the grandfather is the one that pushed the children's play area, because they were there before they walked over to the window. But it was a significant distance away from the play area. There's no guarantee that this is just the lawyer pushing that it was a play area. This could have been the grandfather's own words.

Which side of the ship was this incident? The port side will always have open windows since this is "smoking" side.

Pretty sure you can only smoke in designated areas on ships any longer. Its not an entire side of a ship.

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Anonymous wrote:All the other people who were on the ship--their vacation was completely destroyed too. I'm sure some of them witness some horrific stuff and were traumatized. i think Grandpa should be held responsible for reimbursing them for actual damages (vacations costs) as well as "pain and suffering" for what they witnessed.

How far into the trip did this happen? What happened after? Did everyone have to leave the ship and the rest of the trip was cancelled?

From what I've heard, the family had boarded that day, the ship was still docked/boarding and I don't think they had even had a chance to unpack before this happened.

Instead of departing at 3/4pm, the ship didn't depart until later that evening, so police could investigate. Otherwise the trip for the other passengers was unaltered, including the itinerary.

As for grandpa, I read that he was cleared of drug/alcohol influence. I definitely haven't read of him refusing anything and I've followed pretty closely.

But do you really think passengers were able to enjoy themselves, after seeing THAT?

I doubt many saw anything. Its a large ship and people could have been doing any number of things at that time. I'm sure authorities covered up the dock pretty quickly. I agree it would be unsettling, but I'm sure they could still mostly enjoy their vacation. Its not like they were worried it might happen again.

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Anonymous wrote:All the other people who were on the ship--their vacation was completely destroyed too. I'm sure some of them witness some horrific stuff and were traumatized. i think Grandpa should be held responsible for reimbursing them for actual damages (vacations costs) as well as "pain and suffering" for what they witnessed.

I would feel dirty to take money for this child’s death.

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Anonymous wrote:All the other people who were on the ship--their vacation was completely destroyed too. I'm sure some of them witness some horrific stuff and were traumatized. i think Grandpa should be held responsible for reimbursing them for actual damages (vacations costs) as well as "pain and suffering" for what they witnessed.

I would feel dirty to take money for this child’s death.

Unfortunately, her own parents don't feel like that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Remember the lawyer had the media repeating that this happened in a children’s PLAY AREA. The lawyer is a lying dirt bag and should be disbarred. That news agencies blindly repeated the lawyer’s claims as fact is despicable.

To be fair, this is the walk area that goes around the pool deck which includes a children's play area. However, where they were, the walkway opens wider for an open space around the bar. They walked away from the pool area passed the bar over to the walkway and window. So, it may be that the grandfather is the one that pushed the children's play area, because they were there before they walked over to the window. But it was a significant distance away from the play area. There's no guarantee that this is just the lawyer pushing that it was a play area. This could have been the grandfather's own words.

If they were a significant distance away, then there is no need to "be fair", is there? This is an entitlement attitude, whether it originally came from the lawyer or grandpa.
LOL at all the posters using this thread to get in their little jabs at IT people. Still bitter about getting blocked from pinterest at work?