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Man dies after unprovoked attack by teens at Frederick fair
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Anonymous
Oh, goodness and I only came to this conclusion after seeing him kill a man. Imagine that. Imagine the horror of me concluding that a person is dangerous based on the fact that he killed someone. How dare I??? Your false narrative is not going to serve you well in life. We can talk about police brutality against black men if that is what you like. I happen to believe that it's real. We can talk about systemic racism which I also happen to believe is real. None of those are relevant to this discussion, however. These two killed a man who was enjoying his day at the fair. What is your defense for them? |
Anonymous
HE wasn't killed! HE wasn't the victim! Whatever has happened (assessments, killing) to other black teenagers is irrelevant in THIS situation. |
Anonymous
I hear you and I'm with you. I, too, find the behavior of these kids abhorrent. There is no defense for what they did to Mr. Weed and his family. None. I'm sorry if you interpreted that from my post. Also, I appreciate your understanding the pain and fear that's deeply rooted in the black community around law enforcement and the pernicious impact of systemic racism. Through personal experience and observations, I do believe there are risky, and sometimes fatal, connections between one's fear and another person's perceived strength/size (particularly if they're black, or of color). After reading your response, I realize I was probably wrong in assuming that you saw the roughly 10 second video of this tragedy and made a similar assessment that I think some police officers have made - and people died/die. That's my concern. But again, I agree with you, this is not directly relevant to this discussion. |
Anonymous
DP You sound like a very rational and reasonable person.....a rarity for this board so kudos to you. Given that, I’d like to get your thoughts on the very charged and sensitive issue of the high rate of violence amongst black males. DOJ statistics report that black males are 6% of the population and account for over 50% of violent crimes. Black teens are arrested for murder and manslaughter at a rate that is ten times that of white teens. Of course institutional racism and poverty account for some of this but what else is driving this highly disproportionate rate of violent crime? And why aren’t leaders in the black community addressing this issue in a serious manner? The vast majority of the victims of these crimes are other black men so why isn’t this issue a priority? It seems to be reaching crisis levels, especially in cities like Chicago and Baltimore. and I just want to understand why so little effort and attention are given to possible solutions. Thanks in advance. |
Anonymous
| Why are some idiots on here defending the two trash teens? I don't understand. |
Anonymous
Eh, no one is really defending them. What they did is pretty indefensible actually. Hopefully the justice system works and they are locked up for a long time. |
Anonymous
I’m the PPP who you were responding to. I don’t think you should feel any obligation to answer the question above. Some simple research conducted by the person asking will suffice. And you certainly don’t have to answer for all black men. This is less of a question and more a bait. Don’t take it. |
Anonymous
Yep, wonder if these youths would be welcome in the lily white neighborhoods where "All Are Welcome" signs predominate. |
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No. People are just horrified by this whole situation. Would you want those kiddos going to your kids' school and living in your apartment building? How do the members of that community protect themselves? Serious question. I don't live there but I would probably pick now to move if I did. It’s two teenagers who made a very bad decision. They’ve killed a man and ruined their lives. I don’t think the community is in danger. They committed a very violent crime. Of course, the community is in danger. Damn. Some of you will excuse anything. Excusing violent crime increases ones woke cred. Like putting a sign on your lawn. Or being a keyboard warrior. Yep, wonder if these youths would be welcome in the lily white neighborhoods where "All Are Welcome" signs predominate. Lol. I live in one of those neighborhoods. All the virtual signaling signs you would expect; All Are Welcome, BLM. But the minute a black man walks through the neighborhood, the listserv lights up like a Christmas tree. Calls to 311, "take heed!" warnings. |
Anonymous
It’s two teenagers who made a very bad decision. They’ve killed a man and ruined their lives. I don’t think the community is in danger. They committed a very violent crime. Of course, the community is in danger. Damn. Some of you will excuse anything. Excusing violent crime increases ones woke cred. Like putting a sign on your lawn. Or being a keyboard warrior. Yep, wonder if these youths would be welcome in the lily white neighborhoods where "All Are Welcome" signs predominate. Lol. I live in one of those neighborhoods. All the virtual signaling signs you would expect; All Are Welcome, BLM. But the minute a black man walks through the neighborhood, the listserv lights up like a Christmas tree. Calls to 311, "take heed!" warnings. Geez, Maryland is the land of the crazies. |
Anonymous
Well, according to the Washington Post's database on police shootings, blacks are actually underrepresented compared to their violent crime rates. ~25% of people shot, but responsible for ~40% of violent crime. But facts don't matter apparently. |
Anonymous
+1 You're a brave person, trying to offer facts to the killing mob. |
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So basically DCUMers want to bring back segregation and/or lock up every black person between the ages of 6 and 60. That seems to be the underlying sentiment I’m sensing from posters.
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Anonymous
Not the PP, but my feeling is it's lack of positive role models, particular fathers. Around 70% of black children are born to unwed mothers, compared to about 30% for whites (interesting tidbit: the rate is lower, across all races, for immigrant mothers compared to native-born mothers.. maybe it's more "shameful" to give birth out of wedlock in the countries where immigrants are coming from?). There's a benefit to kids growing up with both a father and a mother, and it's just much less likely for black children. That seems to lead to a downward spiral -- lower education achievement, which leads to higher rate of committing crimes and so on. One theory I've heard is that during the 50s-70s, the black community had a common cause -- civil rights -- and united behind that. Now that we've come much further along on that (sure there is room for improvement, but compare that to the segregated schools my father went to growing up right here in MoCo), then there's less of a common cause to unite the community. I think we're going to see more issues with boys across all races based on current trends. Women are outperforming men pretty much across the board when it comes to academic achievement in high school and college, be it graduation rates or even just acceptance rates -- at most universities, the undergrad student body is at least 60% female. Think of the societal implications of this -- 3 women to 2 men. If a woman wants to marry a man who also has a college degree -- not too much to ask -- it's already 3 women competing for 2 men. I'm not quite sure how this will pan out, but in countries like China where there are many more young men than women (one-child policy/selective abortion), many men are getting frustrated that there are no eligible women to marry. In Japan, young men remain unemployed and stuck in their parents' apartment playing video games all day and not leaving the house (there's even a term -- otaku). None of this is good, but I'm not even sure how we address these issues. |