Loudoun Struggles in ECNL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The top teams in the state at U11 and U12 are populated by players who have the physical ability to play up a year and are dominating by size and speed, as well as the same skill level of less developed players in their age group.

The top teams in the state at U12 have no play ups. They always beat the teams that do have play ups. The teams with plays ups are weak on age and can’t even make the top bracket of Jeff Cup.

But they do have parents that pump them up on the board every day. That parent will watch his DD lose to a top team 22-1 over 3 games and still think his kids team is better and more developed! Love is blind.

If you want to claim you are better, come play us at a tournament and stop hiding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The top teams in the state at U11 and U12 are populated by players who have the physical ability to play up a year and are dominating by size and speed, as well as the same skill level of less developed players in their age group.

The top teams in the state at U12 have no play ups. They always beat the teams that do have play ups. The teams with plays ups are weak on age and can’t even make the top bracket of Jeff Cup.

But they do have parents that pump them up on the board every day. That parent will watch his DD lose to a top team 22-1 over 3 games and still think his kids team is better and more developed! Love is blind.

If you want to claim you are better, come play us at a tournament and stop hiding.

I can understand the merits of discussing whether playing up is good or bad at young ages. But who in their right mind would keep the scores from U9-U12 age groups and tally them up if they mean something for long term development? Some players, who were on receiving end of such scores at the young age groups, are now some of the top players in the area in the older age groups. Things change. I've seen too many teams that were crushing the opposition at U11-U12, but were no longer competitive by the time they reached U16.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The top teams in the state at U11 and U12 are populated by players who have the physical ability to play up a year and are dominating by size and speed, as well as the same skill level of less developed players in their age group.

The top teams in the state at U12 have no play ups. They always beat the teams that do have play ups. The teams with plays ups are weak on age and can’t even make the top bracket of Jeff Cup.

But they do have parents that pump them up on the board every day. That parent will watch his DD lose to a top team 22-1 over 3 games and still think his kids team is better and more developed! Love is blind.

If you want to claim you are better, come play us at a tournament and stop hiding.

I can understand the merits of discussing whether playing up is good or bad at young ages. But who in their right mind would keep the scores from U9-U12 age groups and tally them up if they mean something for long term development? Some players, who were on receiving end of such scores at the young age groups, are now some of the top players in the area in the older age groups. Things change. I've seen too many teams that were crushing the opposition at U11-U12, but were no longer competitive by the time they reached U16.

The point is that the Loudoun parents know the FCV teams and simply do not respect the FCV teams. Sure, scores get closer as time goes on but frankly FCV is not a destination club for these sets of parents and to them the FCV team in particular is not a destination team.

And, by the same token, the results of games over two years ago don't matter much in the same vein as the success of the older FCV teams do not matter to this group of 07 parents. Also, older FCV team success is not a thing that is inherited and something that should be expected. The landscape in the region was much, much different when those older teams were formed. The FCV 05 team lost to Spirit MD. based on Spirit's start last year who would have thought that would happen, but here we are in a evolving landscape.

So until FCV is willing to face Loudoun Red in a tournament the lingering impression in the minds of the parents is that of a team that they have steamrolled in the past. Playing in second brackets in second level tournaments is not convincing them of FCV's development success either.

[Anonymous]

Should other NFL teams respect the Redskins and want to play for them because the organization won 3 Superbowls in the past? That is like what FCV parents are asking Loudoun parents to do. Those Superbowls were at the same club but that success was on older teams, with different players. Why would we care how the 04s and 05s are doing?

Especially when those teams were formed when ECNL and FCV were the only options for top players. Those teams will of course be strong. Different time, different situation.

Show us some quality wins against quality opponents if you want our respect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Should other NFL teams respect the Redskins and want to play for them because the organization won 3 Superbowls in the past? That is like what FCV parents are asking Loudoun parents to do. Those Superbowls were at the same club but that success was on older teams, with different players. Why would we care how the 04s and 05s are doing?

Especially when those teams were formed when ECNL and FCV were the only options for top players. Those teams will of course be strong. Different time, different situation.

Show us some quality wins against quality opponents if you want our respect.

You don't get it. They don't care about your respect. They only care about trying to recruit a few players that will help them get the results they seek. They have been doing it for years, with teams that were "inferior" to Loudoun teams. Maybe this year is the year it ends, but I wouldn't bet on it.

[Anonymous]

I just looked at the bios for U18/U19 players from FCV and the three youth national teams call ups are from Haymarket (2) and Oak Hill (1). I think it is a bit rich to attribute FCV's older team's success to players from Loudoun, given that their three star players are from Fairfax and Prince William counties.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Should other NFL teams respect the Redskins and want to play for them because the organization won 3 Superbowls in the past? That is like what FCV parents are asking Loudoun parents to do. Those Superbowls were at the same club but that success was on older teams, with different players. Why would we care how the 04s and 05s are doing?

Especially when those teams were formed when ECNL and FCV were the only options for top players. Those teams will of course be strong. Different time, different situation.

Show us some quality wins against quality opponents if you want our respect.

You don't get it. They don't care about your respect. They only care about trying to recruit a few players that will help them get the results they seek. They have been doing it for years, with teams that were "inferior" to Loudoun teams. Maybe this year is the year it ends, but I wouldn't bet on it.

You don't get it either. If you think the FCV 07 team needs just a few players to help them get the results they seek, I know for a fact that you do not know that team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Should other NFL teams respect the Redskins and want to play for them because the organization won 3 Superbowls in the past? That is like what FCV parents are asking Loudoun parents to do. Those Superbowls were at the same club but that success was on older teams, with different players. Why would we care how the 04s and 05s are doing?

Especially when those teams were formed when ECNL and FCV were the only options for top players. Those teams will of course be strong. Different time, different situation.

Show us some quality wins against quality opponents if you want our respect.

You don't get it. They don't care about your respect. They only care about trying to recruit a few players that will help them get the results they seek. They have been doing it for years, with teams that were "inferior" to Loudoun teams. Maybe this year is the year it ends, but I wouldn't bet on it.

You don't get it either. If you think the FCV 07 team needs just a few players to help them get the results they seek, I know for a fact that you do not know that team.

Aren't they ranked No. 3 in Virginia with 80% win rate? It does not seems like the team is struggling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Should other NFL teams respect the Redskins and want to play for them because the organization won 3 Superbowls in the past? That is like what FCV parents are asking Loudoun parents to do. Those Superbowls were at the same club but that success was on older teams, with different players. Why would we care how the 04s and 05s are doing?

Especially when those teams were formed when ECNL and FCV were the only options for top players. Those teams will of course be strong. Different time, different situation.

Show us some quality wins against quality opponents if you want our respect.

You don't get it. They don't care about your respect. They only care about trying to recruit a few players that will help them get the results they seek. They have been doing it for years, with teams that were "inferior" to Loudoun teams. Maybe this year is the year it ends, but I wouldn't bet on it.

You don't get it either. If you think the FCV 07 team needs just a few players to help them get the results they seek, I know for a fact that you do not know that team.

Aren't they ranked No. 3 in Virginia with 80% win rate? It does not seems like the team is struggling.

Yes, Loudoun Dad's insecurity is (once again) showing. I guess I get it as he probably grew up playing baseball and doesn't know much about the game.

[Anonymous]

FCV 07 DA will probably be a lot better than the current FCV 07 team and may even be better than Loudoun 07 ECNL whether they get any Loudoun players this year or not.

It is shortsighted to assume that the current team make up will stay the same for years to come.

FCV DA knows how to recruit!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Should other NFL teams respect the Redskins and want to play for them because the organization won 3 Superbowls in the past? That is like what FCV parents are asking Loudoun parents to do. Those Superbowls were at the same club but that success was on older teams, with different players. Why would we care how the 04s and 05s are doing?

Especially when those teams were formed when ECNL and FCV were the only options for top players. Those teams will of course be strong. Different time, different situation.

Show us some quality wins against quality opponents if you want our respect.

You don't get it. They don't care about your respect. They only care about trying to recruit a few players that will help them get the results they seek. They have been doing it for years, with teams that were "inferior" to Loudoun teams. Maybe this year is the year it ends, but I wouldn't bet on it.

You don't get it either. If you think the FCV 07 team needs just a few players to help them get the results they seek, I know for a fact that you do not know that team.

Aren't they ranked No. 3 in Virginia with 80% win rate? It does not seems like the team is struggling.

Yes, Loudoun Dad's insecurity is (once again) showing. I guess I get it as he probably grew up playing baseball and doesn't know much about the game.

That is the funniest post yet. Go ahead and compare who your DD’s team beat this year vs mine. And you think I am insecure? LMAO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Should other NFL teams respect the Redskins and want to play for them because the organization won 3 Superbowls in the past? That is like what FCV parents are asking Loudoun parents to do. Those Superbowls were at the same club but that success was on older teams, with different players. Why would we care how the 04s and 05s are doing?

Especially when those teams were formed when ECNL and FCV were the only options for top players. Those teams will of course be strong. Different time, different situation.

Show us some quality wins against quality opponents if you want our respect.

You don't get it. They don't care about your respect. They only care about trying to recruit a few players that will help them get the results they seek. They have been doing it for years, with teams that were "inferior" to Loudoun teams. Maybe this year is the year it ends, but I wouldn't bet on it.

You don't get it either. If you think the FCV 07 team needs just a few players to help them get the results they seek, I know for a fact that you do not know that team.

Aren't they ranked No. 3 in Virginia with 80% win rate? It does not seems like the team is struggling.

They are not playing in the top brackets of tournaments. Winning against lesser teams while it gets you points doesn't mean they are not struggling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FCV 07 DA will probably be a lot better than the current FCV 07 team and may even be better than Loudoun 07 ECNL whether they get any Loudoun players this year or not.

It is shortsighted to assume that the current team make up will stay the same for years to come.

FCV DA knows how to recruit!

But not how to develop

[Anonymous]

Darth Vader did a better job of recruiting Luke than the FCV parent is doing here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Should other NFL teams respect the Redskins and want to play for them because the organization won 3 Superbowls in the past? That is like what FCV parents are asking Loudoun parents to do. Those Superbowls were at the same club but that success was on older teams, with different players. Why would we care how the 04s and 05s are doing?

Especially when those teams were formed when ECNL and FCV were the only options for top players. Those teams will of course be strong. Different time, different situation.

Show us some quality wins against quality opponents if you want our respect.

You don't get it. They don't care about your respect. They only care about trying to recruit a few players that will help them get the results they seek. They have been doing it for years, with teams that were "inferior" to Loudoun teams. Maybe this year is the year it ends, but I wouldn't bet on it.

You don't get it either. If you think the FCV 07 team needs just a few players to help them get the results they seek, I know for a fact that you do not know that team.

Aren't they ranked No. 3 in Virginia with 80% win rate? It does not seems like the team is struggling.

They are not playing in the top brackets of tournaments. Winning against lesser teams while it gets you points doesn't mean they are not struggling.

They beat McLean, which is ranked No. 2 in Virginia. Is McLean a lesser team?