Do you consider redshirting cheating?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At public and not an exaggeration at all. Becomes more of an issue as time goes on including that half the g &t class consists of redshirted kids.

But hey, Go Yale B’s, right?

How do you know everyone's birthday?

I always wonder that too. Not just birthday, but birth year.

I don't know birthdays but do know birth year. It's easy, unfortunately, as my son who is a summer birthday has hardly any friends from school on his sports teams. Most of the boys were redshirted and as everything is by birth year now, they can't all be on the same team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Logic is not a core competency of the anti-redshirt contingent.

Amazing then that we seem capable of raising kids who can move forward at a normal pace. And amazing to me that people who are SO terrified to have their child called names based upon their mental abilities are so willing to insult the mental capacity of others. Glass houses, and all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Logic is not a core competency of the anti-redshirt contingent.

Amazing then that we seem capable of raising kids who can move forward at a normal pace. And amazing to me that people who are SO terrified to have their child called names based upon their mental abilities are so willing to insult the mental capacity of others. Glass houses, and all.

Congratulations. Good for you! So there's no need for you to worry about the pace of other kids moving forward, including whether these other kids, who are not your kids, start kindergarten at age 5 or age 6 -- right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Logic is not a core competency of the anti-redshirt contingent.

Amazing then that we seem capable of raising kids who can move forward at a normal pace. And amazing to me that people who are SO terrified to have their child called names based upon their mental abilities are so willing to insult the mental capacity of others. Glass houses, and all.

Congratulations. Good for you! So there's no need for you to worry about the pace of other kids moving forward, including whether these other kids, who are not your kids, start kindergarten at age 5 or age 6 -- right?

+1 as one PP said before, win win for everyone!

[Anonymous]

It’s really tricky
I sent my September birthday boy on time last year - and he’s repeating this year. He was not ready to read/write and was not mature enough socially. He did have sky high test scores.
I had to push the administration (with teacher support) and everyone agrees another year was the right choice. But the administration doesn’t like doing it. It’s pissible they would have said no and we would have been stuck needing educational supports for first grade when the issue was age

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Logic is not a core competency of the anti-redshirt contingent.

Amazing then that we seem capable of raising kids who can move forward at a normal pace. And amazing to me that people who are SO terrified to have their child called names based upon their mental abilities are so willing to insult the mental capacity of others. Glass houses, and all.

Congratulations. Good for you! So there's no need for you to worry about the pace of other kids moving forward, including whether these other kids, who are not your kids, start kindergarten at age 5 or age 6 -- right?

Sure. I'm not gay so shouldn't care about gay rights. I'm not poor so shouldn't care about equality in public education. I'm on board with how you think!

[Anonymous]

The irony is that the only reason I care about your kids is that I believe if your child is so slow that they need a full year to catch up, they should be seen by a professional. Redshirting parents buckle against that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The irony is that the only reason I care about your kids is that I believe if your child is so slow that they need a full year to catch up, they should be seen by a professional. Redshirting parents buckle against that.

Mun dd is not slow. She is shy and immature and I think she will do better socially with a younger cohort (end of August birthday). You people keep missing the point and insulting our “slow” kids

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The irony is that the only reason I care about your kids is that I believe if your child is so slow that they need a full year to catch up, they should be seen by a professional. Redshirting parents buckle against that.

Mun dd is not slow. She is shy and immature and I think she will do better socially with a younger cohort (end of August birthday). You people keep missing the point and insulting our “slow” kids

And this is bs. You din’t Care about my kid you only are about yours and his/her wellbeing just like I do

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The irony is that the only reason I care about your kids is that I believe if your child is so slow that they need a full year to catch up, they should be seen by a professional. Redshirting parents buckle against that.

Mun dd is not slow. She is shy and immature and I think she will do better socially with a younger cohort (end of August birthday). You people keep missing the point and insulting our “slow” kids

Shy is now something we attempt to redshirt out? If she’s still shy do you hold her back again?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The irony is that the only reason I care about your kids is that I believe if your child is so slow that they need a full year to catch up, they should be seen by a professional. Redshirting parents buckle against that.

Mun dd is not slow. She is shy and immature and I think she will do better socially with a younger cohort (end of August birthday). You people keep missing the point and insulting our “slow” kids

And this is bs. You din’t Care about my kid you only are about yours and his/her wellbeing just like I do

New poster. I don’t understand, isn’t that the right thing to do, look out for your own kids as long as it isn’t adversely impacting the others. In what way does having a child who is a month or two older in the same class as your child a bad thing??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The irony is that the only reason I care about your kids is that I believe if your child is so slow that they need a full year to catch up, they should be seen by a professional. Redshirting parents buckle against that.

Mun dd is not slow. She is shy and immature and I think she will do better socially with a younger cohort (end of August birthday). You people keep missing the point and insulting our “slow” kids

Shy is now something we attempt to redshirt out? If she’s still shy do you hold her back again?

Yeah, I was very shy until high school.

Do people forget their childhood? Or do they want to live it again through their children?

[Anonymous]

When the “choice” to redshirt is equal available to all who choose public, sure. It’s not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The irony is that the only reason I care about your kids is that I believe if your child is so slow that they need a full year to catch up, they should be seen by a professional. Redshirting parents buckle against that.

Mun dd is not slow. She is shy and immature and I think she will do better socially with a younger cohort (end of August birthday). You people keep missing the point and insulting our “slow” kids

Shy is now something we attempt to redshirt out? If she’s still shy do you hold her back again?

Yeah, I was very shy until high school.

Do people forget their childhood? Or do they want to live it again through their children?

I’m 40 and still short. What grade should I be in?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The irony is that the only reason I care about your kids is that I believe if your child is so slow that they need a full year to catch up, they should be seen by a professional. Redshirting parents buckle against that.

How do you know they're not being seen by a professional? In OP's case, they were advised by a professional (the teacher) that the child could benefit from red-shirting. The school systems (educational professionals) recognize that some children can benefit from an extra year which is why they have an established procedure for redshirting.

Moreover, you don't know if they're seeing a medical doctor, a psychologist, an occupational therapist, speech therapist, etc., and you don't need to know. Do you distribute your child's medical records to their classmates parents? Do you survey the other parents to get their approval of your parenting decisions?

Children who are redshirted aren't necessarily "slow", again you don't know why the child is being red-shirted, and it's none of your business. My child had multiple issues which DC did see various professionals about. None of these problems had anything to do with her being slow. Academically DC was significantly ahead, a problem that was compounded by the redshirting. If DC had started school on time I guess DC would have only been about 3-4 years ahead instead of 4-5. It was a difficult decision, but we did what we thought was best for our child. (Incidentally, rather than giving us a competitive advantage, it was something we struggled greatly with over the years. The last thing I wanted to do was to increase the academic discrepancy between her and her peers.)

As parents, we don't have to agree with each other, and thank goodness we don't have to parent by committee. I'll bet you're an excellent parent. I'll also bet that at some point you might make parenting decisions that I would disagree with, especially if I don't have the full picture.

I appreciate your concern about red-shirted students being neglected by being deprived of needed care. Perhaps you could consider that a parent, acting on professional advice, filling out extra forms so that the parent has to arrange an extra year of care before sending the child to school is doing so in an attempt to meet the child's needs. If a parent were truly neglectful, I don't think they'd go to so much trouble.