Option B Alternate - Adding extra ES to WJ?

[Anonymous]

Building on the strength of the random assignment of children to schools, I examine the longitudinal school performance from 2001 to 2007 of approximately 850 students in public housing who attended elementary schools and lived in neighborhoods that fell along a spectrum of very-low-poverty to moderate-poverty rates. In brief, I find that over a period of five to seven years, children in public housing who attended the school district’s most-advantaged schools (as measured by either subsidized lunch status or the district’s own criteria) far outperformed in math and reading those chil-
dren in public housing who attended the district’s least-advantaged elementary schools.

https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2015/10/19/446085513/the-evidence-that-white-children-benefit-from-integrated-schools

In addition to race, there are also studies about socioeconomic diversity.

This study is about elementary school kids, Do you have similar research about HS students ?

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Anonymous wrote:VM parents strongly support Taylor's plan. We want Woodward, not WJ.

No, you support Taylor's plan. And that is fine. But stop pretending that you speak for the entire VM community.

The opinions in the VM parent Whatsapp group are largely unanimous. Are you a current VM parent?

DP

I don't question that what you are saying about sentiment on WhatsApp is true. But I find it mind-boggling that there would be such a strong consensus not to select a school that will almost certainly have better class offering, better teacher and overall better academic reputation. Not to mention that Woodward will be stuck with the art magnet, additionally diverting resources from things that matter.

We don't want a pressure-cooker W school. Our cluster doesn't want our mostly first-gen Hispanic children to have to compete with hordes of wealthy privileged white kids who have private tutors and SAT prep. We purchased our home in Randolph Hills anticipating that our kids could go to school in a diverse, welcoming environment with many people like them, not shipped off to Bethesda to be the token diversity population.

How is keeping your kids with “many people like them” diversity? Sounds like you want to hold your kids back instead of sending them to an objectively better school- crab in a bucket mentality.

+1 🦀 🦀 🦀 🪣 🪣 🪣

Only a white person would make this comment! I dare you to make this same statement to Wootton families. Somehow you think it’s okay to talk to black and brown families like this.

Only a 🪣 🦀 would choose to send their kid to a worse school with worse outcomes in the name of “diversity”. If the original poster really wanted diversity, they’d send their kids to WJ where they can meet kids who are different than they are and be exposed to better outcomes.

It’s 🪣🦀 mentality and the sad part is - it’s the parents dragging their own kids down.

Cite your data that proves this. “Exposed to better outcomes” is such a coded racist phrase. You make it seem as if my black/brown kid can become a better human just by watching your white kid!

Ignore the troll

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Under this plan, Who will be 10th graders in Woodward in 2027 ( Current 8th graders) ? Tilden MS only or DCC schools will join them ?

Taylor says current 8th graders will get to choose their DCC program for next AND finish their HS years in that building in that current program. He said the same thing about kids headed to are already in regional magnets such as RMIB and Blair. So that means just the Farmland, Luxmanor, KP/Gp portions in Woodward for 10th graders in 2027

So less than 300 kids will be in 10th grade when Woodward is opened ? How will this impact their course selections in HS? Will they have Spanish 1-5, French 1-5 , AP classes same as WJ ?

My understanding is that there will be zero 10th grade students in Woodward in 27/28 as current 8th graders in Tilden are being told that they will be going to WJ. Of course, that makes class offerings in Woodward in 27/28 even more of a question.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Under this plan, Who will be 10th graders in Woodward in 2027 ( Current 8th graders) ? Tilden MS only or DCC schools will join them ?

Taylor says current 8th graders will get to choose their DCC program for next AND finish their HS years in that building in that current program. He said the same thing about kids headed to are already in regional magnets such as RMIB and Blair. So that means just the Farmland, Luxmanor, KP/Gp portions in Woodward for 10th graders in 2027

So less than 300 kids will be in 10th grade when Woodward is opened ? How will this impact their course selections in HS? Will they have Spanish 1-5, French 1-5 , AP classes same as WJ ?

WJ won’t have the same AP classes it has now as the school population declines. There will be the most disparity in years 1-2 as WJ still has humongous 11th and 12th grade classes and Woodward has only the younger grades. Then it will balance out more after full implementation in the 29-30 school year. Or 30-31 if you count the class of 2030 DCC kids who choose to stay at their 9th grade HS as not creating full implementation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Under this plan, Who will be 10th graders in Woodward in 2027 ( Current 8th graders) ? Tilden MS only or DCC schools will join them ?

Taylor says current 8th graders will get to choose their DCC program for next AND finish their HS years in that building in that current program. He said the same thing about kids headed to are already in regional magnets such as RMIB and Blair. So that means just the Farmland, Luxmanor, KP/Gp portions in Woodward for 10th graders in 2027

So less than 300 kids will be in 10th grade when Woodward is opened ? How will this impact their course selections in HS? Will they have Spanish 1-5, French 1-5 , AP classes same as WJ ?

My understanding is that there will be zero 10th grade students in Woodward in 27/28 as current 8th graders in Tilden are being told that they will be going to WJ. Of course, that makes class offerings in Woodward in 27/28 even more of a question.

I believe the current recommendation involved Tilden 8th graders going to WJ for 9th grade and Woodward for 10th-12th. Or rather, Tilden ‘30 except for the part of GP assigned to WJ moving to Woodward for 10th-12th. So Tilden 8th graders are going to WJ. For one year.

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Anonymous wrote:VM parents strongly support Taylor's plan. We want Woodward, not WJ.

No, you support Taylor's plan. And that is fine. But stop pretending that you speak for the entire VM community.

The opinions in the VM parent Whatsapp group are largely unanimous. Are you a current VM parent?

DP

I don't question that what you are saying about sentiment on WhatsApp is true. But I find it mind-boggling that there would be such a strong consensus not to select a school that will almost certainly have better class offering, better teacher and overall better academic reputation. Not to mention that Woodward will be stuck with the art magnet, additionally diverting resources from things that matter.

We don't want a pressure-cooker W school. Our cluster doesn't want our mostly first-gen Hispanic children to have to compete with hordes of wealthy privileged white kids who have private tutors and SAT prep. We purchased our home in Randolph Hills anticipating that our kids could go to school in a diverse, welcoming environment with many people like them, not shipped off to Bethesda to be the token diversity population.

How is keeping your kids with “many people like them” diversity? Sounds like you want to hold your kids back instead of sending them to an objectively better school- crab in a bucket mentality.

+1 🦀 🦀 🦀 🪣 🪣 🪣

Only a white person would make this comment! I dare you to make this same statement to Wootton families. Somehow you think it’s okay to talk to black and brown families like this.

Only a 🪣 🦀 would choose to send their kid to a worse school with worse outcomes in the name of “diversity”. If the original poster really wanted diversity, they’d send their kids to WJ where they can meet kids who are different than they are and be exposed to better outcomes.

It’s 🪣🦀 mentality and the sad part is - it’s the parents dragging their own kids down.

Cite your data that proves this. “Exposed to better outcomes” is such a coded racist phrase. You make it seem as if my black/brown kid can become a better human just by watching your white kid!

Ignore the troll

New poster. Not a troll. I want the answer to what they asked

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Under this plan, Who will be 10th graders in Woodward in 2027 ( Current 8th graders) ? Tilden MS only or DCC schools will join them ?

Taylor says current 8th graders will get to choose their DCC program for next AND finish their HS years in that building in that current program. He said the same thing about kids headed to are already in regional magnets such as RMIB and Blair. So that means just the Farmland, Luxmanor, KP/Gp portions in Woodward for 10th graders in 2027

So less than 300 kids will be in 10th grade when Woodward is opened ? How will this impact their course selections in HS? Will they have Spanish 1-5, French 1-5 , AP classes same as WJ ?

WJ won’t have the same AP classes it has now as the school population declines. There will be the most disparity in years 1-2 as WJ still has humongous 11th and 12th grade classes and Woodward has only the younger grades. Then it will balance out more after full implementation in the 29-30 school year. Or 30-31 if you count the class of 2030 DCC kids who choose to stay at their 9th grade HS as not creating full implementation.

Possibly true regarding WJ, but it is slated for humanities magnet. Much better than AP fashion design and video game orchestra. I still expect more academically rigorous options at WJ.

The phase where Woodward only has younger grades will be short. This is about community building for the long term.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Farmland folks who keep hollering about equalizing FARMs rates just want to dump the VM kids on WJ so that they can get the whiter and wealthier GP kids back in their cluster. Maybe it's time to revisit Option 3 from the initial boundary study--Farmland to Kennedy!

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Under this plan, Who will be 10th graders in Woodward in 2027 ( Current 8th graders) ? Tilden MS only or DCC schools will join them ?

Taylor says current 8th graders will get to choose their DCC program for next AND finish their HS years in that building in that current program. He said the same thing about kids headed to are already in regional magnets such as RMIB and Blair. So that means just the Farmland, Luxmanor, KP/Gp portions in Woodward for 10th graders in 2027

So less than 300 kids will be in 10th grade when Woodward is opened ? How will this impact their course selections in HS? Will they have Spanish 1-5, French 1-5 , AP classes same as WJ ?

My understanding is that there will be zero 10th grade students in Woodward in 27/28 as current 8th graders in Tilden are being told that they will be going to WJ. Of course, that makes class offerings in Woodward in 27/28 even more of a question.

Someone got their stories confused. Of course they are going to WJ for 9th grade next year because Woodward will not even be open yet. But then they go to Woodward in 10th.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:VM parents strongly support Taylor's plan. We want Woodward, not WJ.

No, you support Taylor's plan. And that is fine. But stop pretending that you speak for the entire VM community.

The opinions in the VM parent Whatsapp group are largely unanimous. Are you a current VM parent?

DP

I don't question that what you are saying about sentiment on WhatsApp is true. But I find it mind-boggling that there would be such a strong consensus not to select a school that will almost certainly have better class offering, better teacher and overall better academic reputation. Not to mention that Woodward will be stuck with the art magnet, additionally diverting resources from things that matter.

We don't want a pressure-cooker W school. Our cluster doesn't want our mostly first-gen Hispanic children to have to compete with hordes of wealthy privileged white kids who have private tutors and SAT prep. We purchased our home in Randolph Hills anticipating that our kids could go to school in a diverse, welcoming environment with many people like them, not shipped off to Bethesda to be the token diversity population.

How is keeping your kids with “many people like them” diversity? Sounds like you want to hold your kids back instead of sending them to an objectively better school- crab in a bucket mentality.

+1 🦀 🦀 🦀 🪣 🪣 🪣

Only a white person would make this comment! I dare you to make this same statement to Wootton families. Somehow you think it’s okay to talk to black and brown families like this.

Only a 🪣 🦀 would choose to send their kid to a worse school with worse outcomes in the name of “diversity”. If the original poster really wanted diversity, they’d send their kids to WJ where they can meet kids who are different than they are and be exposed to better outcomes.

It’s 🪣🦀 mentality and the sad part is - it’s the parents dragging their own kids down.

Cite your data that proves this. “Exposed to better outcomes” is such a coded racist phrase. You make it seem as if my black/brown kid can become a better human just by watching your white kid!

Ignore the troll

Former poor kid here. Exposed to better outcomes is so important when you grow up around poverty. You see broader possibilities AND realize that these rich kids aren’t any smarter than you are. It’s a tremendous advantage to be exposed to better outcomes regardless of race.

Now the question is, why wouldn’t Woodward kids be exposed to better outcomes? This is still going to be a majority UMC high school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VM parents strongly support Taylor's plan. We want Woodward, not WJ.

No, you support Taylor's plan. And that is fine. But stop pretending that you speak for the entire VM community.

The opinions in the VM parent Whatsapp group are largely unanimous. Are you a current VM parent?

DP

I don't question that what you are saying about sentiment on WhatsApp is true. But I find it mind-boggling that there would be such a strong consensus not to select a school that will almost certainly have better class offering, better teacher and overall better academic reputation. Not to mention that Woodward will be stuck with the art magnet, additionally diverting resources from things that matter.

We don't want a pressure-cooker W school. Our cluster doesn't want our mostly first-gen Hispanic children to have to compete with hordes of wealthy privileged white kids who have private tutors and SAT prep. We purchased our home in Randolph Hills anticipating that our kids could go to school in a diverse, welcoming environment with many people like them, not shipped off to Bethesda to be the token diversity population.

How is keeping your kids with “many people like them” diversity? Sounds like you want to hold your kids back instead of sending them to an objectively better school- crab in a bucket mentality.

+1 🦀 🦀 🦀 🪣 🪣 🪣

Only a white person would make this comment! I dare you to make this same statement to Wootton families. Somehow you think it’s okay to talk to black and brown families like this.

Only a 🪣 🦀 would choose to send their kid to a worse school with worse outcomes in the name of “diversity”. If the original poster really wanted diversity, they’d send their kids to WJ where they can meet kids who are different than they are and be exposed to better outcomes.

It’s 🪣🦀 mentality and the sad part is - it’s the parents dragging their own kids down.

Cite your data that proves this. “Exposed to better outcomes” is such a coded racist phrase. You make it seem as if my black/brown kid can become a better human just by watching your white kid!

Ignore the troll

Former poor kid here. Exposed to better outcomes is so important when you grow up around poverty. You see broader possibilities AND realize that these rich kids aren’t any smarter than you are. It’s a tremendous advantage to be exposed to better outcomes regardless of race.

Now the question is, why wouldn’t Woodward kids be exposed to better outcomes? This is still going to be a majority UMC high school.

No, you just realize how far ahead they started befofe they were even born. I was a FARMS and I don’t want my kids to go to a school like the proposed WJ. It’s not geographically part of our neighborhood and I don’t want my kids to be the “other”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Farmland folks who keep hollering about equalizing FARMs rates just want to dump the VM kids on WJ so that they can get the whiter and wealthier GP kids back in their cluster. Maybe it's time to revisit Option 3 from the initial boundary study--Farmland to Kennedy!

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OMG I forgot about this. Now that I recall, wasn't option 3 in the original plan also the one that had VM going to WJ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Farmland folks who keep hollering about equalizing FARMs rates just want to dump the VM kids on WJ so that they can get the whiter and wealthier GP kids back in their cluster. Maybe it's time to revisit Option 3 from the initial boundary study--Farmland to Kennedy!

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OMG I forgot about this. Now that I recall, wasn't option 3 in the original plan also the one that had VM going to WJ?

Yea. that's the hypocrisy of the farmland/luxmanor demand/temper tantrum

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:VM parents strongly support Taylor's plan. We want Woodward, not WJ.

No, you support Taylor's plan. And that is fine. But stop pretending that you speak for the entire VM community.

The opinions in the VM parent Whatsapp group are largely unanimous. Are you a current VM parent?

DP

I don't question that what you are saying about sentiment on WhatsApp is true. But I find it mind-boggling that there would be such a strong consensus not to select a school that will almost certainly have better class offering, better teacher and overall better academic reputation. Not to mention that Woodward will be stuck with the art magnet, additionally diverting resources from things that matter.

We don't want a pressure-cooker W school. Our cluster doesn't want our mostly first-gen Hispanic children to have to compete with hordes of wealthy privileged white kids who have private tutors and SAT prep. We purchased our home in Randolph Hills anticipating that our kids could go to school in a diverse, welcoming environment with many people like them, not shipped off to Bethesda to be the token diversity population.

How is keeping your kids with “many people like them” diversity? Sounds like you want to hold your kids back instead of sending them to an objectively better school- crab in a bucket mentality.

+1 🦀 🦀 🦀 🪣 🪣 🪣

Only a white person would make this comment! I dare you to make this same statement to Wootton families. Somehow you think it’s okay to talk to black and brown families like this.

Only a 🪣 🦀 would choose to send their kid to a worse school with worse outcomes in the name of “diversity”. If the original poster really wanted diversity, they’d send their kids to WJ where they can meet kids who are different than they are and be exposed to better outcomes.

It’s 🪣🦀 mentality and the sad part is - it’s the parents dragging their own kids down.

Cite your data that proves this. “Exposed to better outcomes” is such a coded racist phrase. You make it seem as if my black/brown kid can become a better human just by watching your white kid!

Ignore the troll

Former poor kid here. Exposed to better outcomes is so important when you grow up around poverty. You see broader possibilities AND realize that these rich kids aren’t any smarter than you are. It’s a tremendous advantage to be exposed to better outcomes regardless of race.

Now the question is, why wouldn’t Woodward kids be exposed to better outcomes? This is still going to be a majority UMC high school.

No, you just realize how far ahead they started befofe they were even born. I was a FARMS and I don’t want my kids to go to a school like the proposed WJ. It’s not geographically part of our neighborhood and I don’t want my kids to be the “other”

Better write to the BOE immediately, the Karens from Farmland and Luxmanor are intent on sending VM to WJ because they do not want you at their brand new Woodward property.

They will claim it is the WJ folk who don't want you at WJ, but look who is pushing the agenda....and they are disingenuous about the purpose. It is the race issue.

[Anonymous]

Go back and look at Original Options 2 and 4 from last summer. The Woodward boundary and demographics looks very much like what Taylor recommended. That’s why it’s absurd for the Farmland people to say that this was sprung on them at the 11th hour. VM and WW were proposed at Woodward for a year.