Option B Alternate - Adding extra ES to WJ?

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Anonymous wrote:Sending western half of VM to WJ without neighbors doesn’t make sense. It creates an island for WJ. We are blocked off by the CSX tracks from the rest of WJ. For community cohesiveness they should keep us with the eastern part of VMES and the area north. This is one reason why I, as a VMES parent, support superintendent recommendation to send us to Woodward.

Though it isn't an island, as both sides of the CSX tracks are zoned to WJ there. And WJ has extended east of the tracks into Kensington for decades.

It is. I live there. We are blocked off my the tracks from Garrett Park/Garrett Park Estates. You have to traverse several miles to get to them. It is effectively an island. Or call it a wall. That’s very different than the other area you’re referring to which is actually connected by the roads!

That’s true. From a transportation standpoint it isn’t like a bus could pick up kids from western part of VM and then just go directly to GP. They’re blocked off by several miles of circuitous path.

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent and a teacher, avoiding splitting elementary schools should be a huge priority. For that matter, this situation allows you to avoid splitting ES and MS. It seems obvious that GPES and KP should each go as an entire school to one of the HS. VM and WW should each go to one of HS.

Splitting elementary/middle school students has the potential for a negative social emotional impact.

Yes. And, I was on the committee that met prior to all of this nonsense being released. We repeatedly told Flo and the MCPS staff to avoid split articulation. They ignored us, they do not care

But that's what the upcoming elementary boundary study is for, in part, to fix split articulations.

Half of GPES will be going to Woodward. There is no way to avoid split articulation with Garrett Park and estates going to WJ. GP made its choice but it won’t be easy to fix articulation.

Just cut off Tuckerman KP and GP islands and that area off Nicholson. Send them to VM, WW, Luxmanor, farmland

There’s not enough space at the other schools for all of the GP kids. I expect the KP Tuckerman area will be reassigned in the ES study but I don’t think GP comes out of the ES study with straight articulation. GP is a large ES and would also be extremely underenrolled if they only kept the parts they have assigned to WJ.

Weren’t they going to build a new ES around White Flint mall? Grosvenor ? Etc. that was discussed so some point

They have not moved forward with any plans for another ES, CIP dollars are in high demand, and they are now talking about declining enrollment and foreshadowing closing elementary schools so I don’t think they’re going to build another one and leave current ones under-enrolled. Pipe dream

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Anonymous wrote:Sending western half of VM to WJ without neighbors doesn’t make sense. It creates an island for WJ. We are blocked off by the CSX tracks from the rest of WJ. For community cohesiveness they should keep us with the eastern part of VMES and the area north. This is one reason why I, as a VMES parent, support superintendent recommendation to send us to Woodward.

Though it isn't an island, as both sides of the CSX tracks are zoned to WJ there. And WJ has extended east of the tracks into Kensington for decades.

It is. I live there. We are blocked off my the tracks from Garrett Park/Garrett Park Estates. You have to traverse several miles to get to them. It is effectively an island. Or call it a wall. That’s very different than the other area you’re referring to which is actually connected by the roads!

That’s true. From a transportation standpoint it isn’t like a bus could pick up kids from western part of VM and then just go directly to GP. They’re blocked off by several miles of circuitous path.

From a community standpoint there is a path at GP Road and people can walk between the neighborhoods but for bus transportation it is more cut off. A lot of these neighborhoods that are so close to each other were designed to be insular. You can’t get out to CT from the VMES east section for no obvious reason. There is only one way to get from the VMES east area to the Rock View neighborhoods even though they’re right next to each other and don’t have RR tracks between them. The streets just don’t go through and wind around until you’re somewhere else in the neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:Sending western half of VM to WJ without neighbors doesn’t make sense. It creates an island for WJ. We are blocked off by the CSX tracks from the rest of WJ. For community cohesiveness they should keep us with the eastern part of VMES and the area north. This is one reason why I, as a VMES parent, support superintendent recommendation to send us to Woodward.

Though it isn't an island, as both sides of the CSX tracks are zoned to WJ there. And WJ has extended east of the tracks into Kensington for decades.

It is. I live there. We are blocked off my the tracks from Garrett Park/Garrett Park Estates. You have to traverse several miles to get to them. It is effectively an island. Or call it a wall. That’s very different than the other area you’re referring to which is actually connected by the roads!

That’s true. From a transportation standpoint it isn’t like a bus could pick up kids from western part of VM and then just go directly to GP. They’re blocked off by several miles of circuitous path.

From a community standpoint there is a path at GP Road and people can walk between the neighborhoods but for bus transportation it is more cut off. A lot of these neighborhoods that are so close to each other were designed to be insular. You can’t get out to CT from the VMES east section for no obvious reason. There is only one way to get from the VMES east area to the Rock View neighborhoods even though they’re right next to each other and don’t have RR tracks between them. The streets just don’t go through and wind around until you’re somewhere else in the neighborhood.

A long uphill path through woods. I hope they keep us in VM together at Woodward. Don’t want to be the island.

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Anonymous wrote:Sending western half of VM to WJ without neighbors doesn’t make sense. It creates an island for WJ. We are blocked off by the CSX tracks from the rest of WJ. For community cohesiveness they should keep us with the eastern part of VMES and the area north. This is one reason why I, as a VMES parent, support superintendent recommendation to send us to Woodward.

Though it isn't an island, as both sides of the CSX tracks are zoned to WJ there. And WJ has extended east of the tracks into Kensington for decades.

It is. I live there. We are blocked off my the tracks from Garrett Park/Garrett Park Estates. You have to traverse several miles to get to them. It is effectively an island. Or call it a wall. That’s very different than the other area you’re referring to which is actually connected by the roads!

That’s true. From a transportation standpoint it isn’t like a bus could pick up kids from western part of VM and then just go directly to GP. They’re blocked off by several miles of circuitous path.

From a community standpoint there is a path at GP Road and people can walk between the neighborhoods but for bus transportation it is more cut off. A lot of these neighborhoods that are so close to each other were designed to be insular. You can’t get out to CT from the VMES east section for no obvious reason. There is only one way to get from the VMES east area to the Rock View neighborhoods even though they’re right next to each other and don’t have RR tracks between them. The streets just don’t go through and wind around until you’re somewhere else in the neighborhood.

A long uphill path through woods. I hope they keep us in VM together at Woodward. Don’t want to be the island.

But the railroad tracks separate you from Woodward just the same as WJ.

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Anonymous wrote:Sending western half of VM to WJ without neighbors doesn’t make sense. It creates an island for WJ. We are blocked off by the CSX tracks from the rest of WJ. For community cohesiveness they should keep us with the eastern part of VMES and the area north. This is one reason why I, as a VMES parent, support superintendent recommendation to send us to Woodward.

Though it isn't an island, as both sides of the CSX tracks are zoned to WJ there. And WJ has extended east of the tracks into Kensington for decades.

It is. I live there. We are blocked off my the tracks from Garrett Park/Garrett Park Estates. You have to traverse several miles to get to them. It is effectively an island. Or call it a wall. That’s very different than the other area you’re referring to which is actually connected by the roads!

That’s true. From a transportation standpoint it isn’t like a bus could pick up kids from western part of VM and then just go directly to GP. They’re blocked off by several miles of circuitous path.

From a community standpoint there is a path at GP Road and people can walk between the neighborhoods but for bus transportation it is more cut off. A lot of these neighborhoods that are so close to each other were designed to be insular. You can’t get out to CT from the VMES east section for no obvious reason. There is only one way to get from the VMES east area to the Rock View neighborhoods even though they’re right next to each other and don’t have RR tracks between them. The streets just don’t go through and wind around until you’re somewhere else in the neighborhood.

A long uphill path through woods. I hope they keep us in VM together at Woodward. Don’t want to be the island.

But the railroad tracks separate you from Woodward just the same as WJ.

Woodward the school or the community? Or do you assume Woodward is only meant for Farmland and Luxmanor?

Under the superintendent rec, Woodward “the community” we would have the eastern half of VMES, Wheaton Woods, the area off Nicholson that is currently with GPES. Much bigger neighboring area for things like carpools, bus transport, neighborhood get together etc.

Under the alternate, we are just left on our own in an island.

Not to mention, as others said earlier, Woodward is easier to get to for all of us from where we are on this side of the csx tracks. You say it’s a mile but with those stupid bike lanes on old gtown that’s easily ten extra minutes in the peak commute.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how the rich white neighborhood clamoring for 'equity' and local press buys that storyline. I guess that's why Taylor paused the slides for the 'media' but they neglected to report on the updates from the work session.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2026/03/04/woodward-boundaries/

"Roughly 2,150 people in the Woodward community also signed a petition advocating for more “parity and equity” between the new school and Walter Johnson."


62% of supporters come from: 20852, 20850, 20814. See https://www.change.org/p/parity-and-equity-between-wj-and-woodward-hs. Who are the 38%? Just spambots?

They might be taken more seriously if they insisted that Kennedy, Blake, Magruder, Woodward...and every other school were given that parity and equity.

What makes you think they don’t feel that way?

Maybe because, in a room with decision makers from across the county and in front of other stakeholders appealing for differential need, some of whom took a more holistic stance, they said nothing of the sort.

Sometimes, words matter.

Assumptions matter too, and you have made quite a few.

I'll agree with the part before the comma. Regarding the part after, we simply have that which was said from which to judge, should we wish to make an assumption at all. Sympathy garners sympathy, and recognizing that in one's advocacy effort was the suggestion.

Yes, correct, you have judged and made assumptions.

You and I will have to disagree about that.

A suggestion was made. Given the audience for the message of advocacy, it might help.

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Anonymous wrote:Sending western half of VM to WJ without neighbors doesn’t make sense. It creates an island for WJ. We are blocked off by the CSX tracks from the rest of WJ. For community cohesiveness they should keep us with the eastern part of VMES and the area north. This is one reason why I, as a VMES parent, support superintendent recommendation to send us to Woodward.

Though it isn't an island, as both sides of the CSX tracks are zoned to WJ there. And WJ has extended east of the tracks into Kensington for decades.

It is. I live there. We are blocked off my the tracks from Garrett Park/Garrett Park Estates. You have to traverse several miles to get to them. It is effectively an island. Or call it a wall. That’s very different than the other area you’re referring to which is actually connected by the roads!

That’s true. From a transportation standpoint it isn’t like a bus could pick up kids from western part of VM and then just go directly to GP. They’re blocked off by several miles of circuitous path.

From a community standpoint there is a path at GP Road and people can walk between the neighborhoods but for bus transportation it is more cut off. A lot of these neighborhoods that are so close to each other were designed to be insular. You can’t get out to CT from the VMES east section for no obvious reason. There is only one way to get from the VMES east area to the Rock View neighborhoods even though they’re right next to each other and don’t have RR tracks between them. The streets just don’t go through and wind around until you’re somewhere else in the neighborhood.

A long uphill path through woods. I hope they keep us in VM together at Woodward. Don’t want to be the island.

But the railroad tracks separate you from Woodward just the same as WJ.

It is close to impossible on this thread to distinguish from real VMES community concerns (and I am sure there are some quite valid ones) and that WJ poster that posts here all the time pretending to be VMES. Usually his hatred for Farmland shows in his posts and unmasks that he has no connection to VMES.

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Anonymous wrote:Sending western half of VM to WJ without neighbors doesn’t make sense. It creates an island for WJ. We are blocked off by the CSX tracks from the rest of WJ. For community cohesiveness they should keep us with the eastern part of VMES and the area north. This is one reason why I, as a VMES parent, support superintendent recommendation to send us to Woodward.

Though it isn't an island, as both sides of the CSX tracks are zoned to WJ there. And WJ has extended east of the tracks into Kensington for decades.

It is. I live there. We are blocked off my the tracks from Garrett Park/Garrett Park Estates. You have to traverse several miles to get to them. It is effectively an island. Or call it a wall. That’s very different than the other area you’re referring to which is actually connected by the roads!

That’s true. From a transportation standpoint it isn’t like a bus could pick up kids from western part of VM and then just go directly to GP. They’re blocked off by several miles of circuitous path.

From a community standpoint there is a path at GP Road and people can walk between the neighborhoods but for bus transportation it is more cut off. A lot of these neighborhoods that are so close to each other were designed to be insular. You can’t get out to CT from the VMES east section for no obvious reason. There is only one way to get from the VMES east area to the Rock View neighborhoods even though they’re right next to each other and don’t have RR tracks between them. The streets just don’t go through and wind around until you’re somewhere else in the neighborhood.

A long uphill path through woods. I hope they keep us in VM together at Woodward. Don’t want to be the island.

But the railroad tracks separate you from Woodward just the same as WJ.

It is close to impossible on this thread to distinguish from real VMES community concerns (and I am sure there are some quite valid ones) and that WJ poster that posts here all the time pretending to be VMES. Usually his hatred for Farmland shows in his posts and unmasks that he has no connection to VMES.

Well we know you’re a man. Try not to project so much. As a VMES parent, is it really hard to think we want to stay that at Woodward? You really just want to stifle us.

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Anonymous wrote:Sending western half of VM to WJ without neighbors doesn’t make sense. It creates an island for WJ. We are blocked off by the CSX tracks from the rest of WJ. For community cohesiveness they should keep us with the eastern part of VMES and the area north. This is one reason why I, as a VMES parent, support superintendent recommendation to send us to Woodward.

Though it isn't an island, as both sides of the CSX tracks are zoned to WJ there. And WJ has extended east of the tracks into Kensington for decades.

It is. I live there. We are blocked off my the tracks from Garrett Park/Garrett Park Estates. You have to traverse several miles to get to them. It is effectively an island. Or call it a wall. That’s very different than the other area you’re referring to which is actually connected by the roads!

That’s true. From a transportation standpoint it isn’t like a bus could pick up kids from western part of VM and then just go directly to GP. They’re blocked off by several miles of circuitous path.

From a community standpoint there is a path at GP Road and people can walk between the neighborhoods but for bus transportation it is more cut off. A lot of these neighborhoods that are so close to each other were designed to be insular. You can’t get out to CT from the VMES east section for no obvious reason. There is only one way to get from the VMES east area to the Rock View neighborhoods even though they’re right next to each other and don’t have RR tracks between them. The streets just don’t go through and wind around until you’re somewhere else in the neighborhood.

A long uphill path through woods. I hope they keep us in VM together at Woodward. Don’t want to be the island.

But the railroad tracks separate you from Woodward just the same as WJ.

It is close to impossible on this thread to distinguish from real VMES community concerns (and I am sure there are some quite valid ones) and that WJ poster that posts here all the time pretending to be VMES. Usually his hatred for Farmland shows in his posts and unmasks that he has no connection to VMES.

Well we know you’re a man. Try not to project so much. As a VMES parent, is it really hard to think we want to stay that at Woodward? You really just want to stifle us.

VMES is not at Woodward. VMES is proposed to go to Woodward and may end up at Woodward. The poster I am referring to has dozens of posts here trashing Farmland, talking about some realtors and brown people at Wheaton. That poster, almost certainly a man, is the one who tries to stifle VMES.

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Anonymous wrote:Sending western half of VM to WJ without neighbors doesn’t make sense. It creates an island for WJ. We are blocked off by the CSX tracks from the rest of WJ. For community cohesiveness they should keep us with the eastern part of VMES and the area north. This is one reason why I, as a VMES parent, support superintendent recommendation to send us to Woodward.

Though it isn't an island, as both sides of the CSX tracks are zoned to WJ there. And WJ has extended east of the tracks into Kensington for decades.

It is. I live there. We are blocked off my the tracks from Garrett Park/Garrett Park Estates. You have to traverse several miles to get to them. It is effectively an island. Or call it a wall. That’s very different than the other area you’re referring to which is actually connected by the roads!

That’s true. From a transportation standpoint it isn’t like a bus could pick up kids from western part of VM and then just go directly to GP. They’re blocked off by several miles of circuitous path.

From a community standpoint there is a path at GP Road and people can walk between the neighborhoods but for bus transportation it is more cut off. A lot of these neighborhoods that are so close to each other were designed to be insular. You can’t get out to CT from the VMES east section for no obvious reason. There is only one way to get from the VMES east area to the Rock View neighborhoods even though they’re right next to each other and don’t have RR tracks between them. The streets just don’t go through and wind around until you’re somewhere else in the neighborhood.

A long uphill path through woods. I hope they keep us in VM together at Woodward. Don’t want to be the island.

But the railroad tracks separate you from Woodward just the same as WJ.

It is close to impossible on this thread to distinguish from real VMES community concerns (and I am sure there are some quite valid ones) and that WJ poster that posts here all the time pretending to be VMES. Usually his hatred for Farmland shows in his posts and unmasks that he has no connection to VMES.

Well we know you’re a man. Try not to project so much. As a VMES parent, is it really hard to think we want to stay that at Woodward? You really just want to stifle us.

VMES is not at Woodward. VMES is proposed to go to Woodward and may end up at Woodward. The poster I am referring to has dozens of posts here trashing Farmland, talking about some realtors and brown people at Wheaton. That poster, almost certainly a man, is the one who tries to stifle VMES.

Where are you from? VMES is not at Woodward. Very exclusionary. I’ll guess Farmland by extreme defensiveness and inferiority complex.

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Anonymous wrote:Sending western half of VM to WJ without neighbors doesn’t make sense. It creates an island for WJ. We are blocked off by the CSX tracks from the rest of WJ. For community cohesiveness they should keep us with the eastern part of VMES and the area north. This is one reason why I, as a VMES parent, support superintendent recommendation to send us to Woodward.

Though it isn't an island, as both sides of the CSX tracks are zoned to WJ there. And WJ has extended east of the tracks into Kensington for decades.

It is. I live there. We are blocked off my the tracks from Garrett Park/Garrett Park Estates. You have to traverse several miles to get to them. It is effectively an island. Or call it a wall. That’s very different than the other area you’re referring to which is actually connected by the roads!

That’s true. From a transportation standpoint it isn’t like a bus could pick up kids from western part of VM and then just go directly to GP. They’re blocked off by several miles of circuitous path.

From a community standpoint there is a path at GP Road and people can walk between the neighborhoods but for bus transportation it is more cut off. A lot of these neighborhoods that are so close to each other were designed to be insular. You can’t get out to CT from the VMES east section for no obvious reason. There is only one way to get from the VMES east area to the Rock View neighborhoods even though they’re right next to each other and don’t have RR tracks between them. The streets just don’t go through and wind around until you’re somewhere else in the neighborhood.

A long uphill path through woods. I hope they keep us in VM together at Woodward. Don’t want to be the island.

But the railroad tracks separate you from Woodward just the same as WJ.

It is close to impossible on this thread to distinguish from real VMES community concerns (and I am sure there are some quite valid ones) and that WJ poster that posts here all the time pretending to be VMES. Usually his hatred for Farmland shows in his posts and unmasks that he has no connection to VMES.

Well we know you’re a man. Try not to project so much. As a VMES parent, is it really hard to think we want to stay that at Woodward? You really just want to stifle us.

VMES is not at Woodward. VMES is proposed to go to Woodward and may end up at Woodward. The poster I am referring to has dozens of posts here trashing Farmland, talking about some realtors and brown people at Wheaton. That poster, almost certainly a man, is the one who tries to stifle VMES.

You chose to come here. Resist the temptation of visiting the website if you don’t like the views of others.

[Anonymous]

For what it is worth, Farmland / Luxmanor did have multiple realtors as part of the petition and at public hearing.

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Anonymous wrote:For what it is worth, Farmland / Luxmanor did have multiple realtors as part of the petition and at public hearing.

Are there certain professions that are forbidden from advocating that their kids get good education?

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Anonymous wrote:For what it is worth, Farmland / Luxmanor did have multiple realtors as part of the petition and at public hearing.

Are there certain professions that are forbidden from advocating that their kids get good education?

Certainly not but these individuals noted do not have children in the system so their motivations are seemingly different. And even they did, reasonable people can assume bias.