Option B Alternate - Adding extra ES to WJ?

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Anonymous wrote:For what it is worth, Farmland / Luxmanor did have multiple realtors as part of the petition and at public hearing.

Are there certain professions that are forbidden from advocating that their kids get good education?

The problem is when that “profession” is trying to exclude others from the neighborhood school claiming equity and parity when that exclusion is nothing but.

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Anonymous wrote:Sending western half of VM to WJ without neighbors doesn’t make sense. It creates an island for WJ. We are blocked off by the CSX tracks from the rest of WJ. For community cohesiveness they should keep us with the eastern part of VMES and the area north. This is one reason why I, as a VMES parent, support superintendent recommendation to send us to Woodward.

Though it isn't an island, as both sides of the CSX tracks are zoned to WJ there. And WJ has extended east of the tracks into Kensington for decades.

It is. I live there. We are blocked off my the tracks from Garrett Park/Garrett Park Estates. You have to traverse several miles to get to them. It is effectively an island. Or call it a wall. That’s very different than the other area you’re referring to which is actually connected by the roads!

That’s true. From a transportation standpoint it isn’t like a bus could pick up kids from western part of VM and then just go directly to GP. They’re blocked off by several miles of circuitous path.

From a community standpoint there is a path at GP Road and people can walk between the neighborhoods but for bus transportation it is more cut off. A lot of these neighborhoods that are so close to each other were designed to be insular. You can’t get out to CT from the VMES east section for no obvious reason. There is only one way to get from the VMES east area to the Rock View neighborhoods even though they’re right next to each other and don’t have RR tracks between them. The streets just don’t go through and wind around until you’re somewhere else in the neighborhood.

A long uphill path through woods. I hope they keep us in VM together at Woodward. Don’t want to be the island.

But the railroad tracks separate you from Woodward just the same as WJ.

It is close to impossible on this thread to distinguish from real VMES community concerns (and I am sure there are some quite valid ones) and that WJ poster that posts here all the time pretending to be VMES. Usually his hatred for Farmland shows in his posts and unmasks that he has no connection to VMES.

Well we know you’re a man. Try not to project so much. As a VMES parent, is it really hard to think we want to stay that at Woodward? You really just want to stifle us.

VMES is not at Woodward. VMES is proposed to go to Woodward and may end up at Woodward. The poster I am referring to has dozens of posts here trashing Farmland, talking about some realtors and brown people at Wheaton. That poster, almost certainly a man, is the one who tries to stifle VMES.

You chose to come here. Resist the temptation of visiting the website if you don’t like the views of others.

I come here to get informed about the status of the boundary study. I realize that it is too much to expect given that the forum is anonymous and that the topic is polarizing. I do stand behind the claim that what you describe as 'the views of others' is often the same person trying to discourage discussion. And if you don't like that, you can take your own advice and ignore my posts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For what it is worth, Farmland / Luxmanor did have multiple realtors as part of the petition and at public hearing.

Are there certain professions that are forbidden from advocating that their kids get good education?

Certainly not but these individuals noted do not have children in the system so their motivations are seemingly different. And even they did, reasonable people can assume bias.

It was a public hearing. I find it hard to believe that anyone that talked in front of BOE did not have a kid in one of the affected schools. Point us to the video, or this is just another false accusation, similar to the earlier one on this thread.

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DP. VMES family here. I’m on the east side of the zone the alternate would keep at Wheaton. I would prefer to stay with friends on the west side of VMES. I support the original superintendent proposal and so do many of my friends in the neighborhood. The walk zone argument is week when not every neighborhood attends schools in their walk zone. Look at Woodward and Einstein generally.

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Anonymous wrote:For what it is worth, Farmland / Luxmanor did have multiple realtors as part of the petition and at public hearing.

Are there certain professions that are forbidden from advocating that their kids get good education?

Certainly not but these individuals noted do not have children in the system so their motivations are seemingly different. And even they did, reasonable people can assume bias.

It was a public hearing. I find it hard to believe that anyone that talked in front of BOE did not have a kid in one of the affected schools. Point us to the video, or this is just another false accusation, similar to the earlier one on this thread.

There clearly are realtors. A simple google search of the ten or so names who testified will illuminate you who are such. No need to name names on this forum per standard DCUM protocol.

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Anonymous wrote:Sending western half of VM to WJ without neighbors doesn’t make sense. It creates an island for WJ. We are blocked off by the CSX tracks from the rest of WJ. For community cohesiveness they should keep us with the eastern part of VMES and the area north. This is one reason why I, as a VMES parent, support superintendent recommendation to send us to Woodward.

Though it isn't an island, as both sides of the CSX tracks are zoned to WJ there. And WJ has extended east of the tracks into Kensington for decades.

It is. I live there. We are blocked off my the tracks from Garrett Park/Garrett Park Estates. You have to traverse several miles to get to them. It is effectively an island. Or call it a wall. That’s very different than the other area you’re referring to which is actually connected by the roads!

That’s true. From a transportation standpoint it isn’t like a bus could pick up kids from western part of VM and then just go directly to GP. They’re blocked off by several miles of circuitous path.

From a community standpoint there is a path at GP Road and people can walk between the neighborhoods but for bus transportation it is more cut off. A lot of these neighborhoods that are so close to each other were designed to be insular. You can’t get out to CT from the VMES east section for no obvious reason. There is only one way to get from the VMES east area to the Rock View neighborhoods even though they’re right next to each other and don’t have RR tracks between them. The streets just don’t go through and wind around until you’re somewhere else in the neighborhood.

A long uphill path through woods. I hope they keep us in VM together at Woodward. Don’t want to be the island.

But the railroad tracks separate you from Woodward just the same as WJ.

It is close to impossible on this thread to distinguish from real VMES community concerns (and I am sure there are some quite valid ones) and that WJ poster that posts here all the time pretending to be VMES. Usually his hatred for Farmland shows in his posts and unmasks that he has no connection to VMES.

Well we know you’re a man. Try not to project so much. As a VMES parent, is it really hard to think we want to stay that at Woodward? You really just want to stifle us.

VMES is not at Woodward. VMES is proposed to go to Woodward and may end up at Woodward. The poster I am referring to has dozens of posts here trashing Farmland, talking about some realtors and brown people at Wheaton. That poster, almost certainly a man, is the one who tries to stifle VMES.

You chose to come here. Resist the temptation of visiting the website if you don’t like the views of others.

I come here to get informed about the status of the boundary study. I realize that it is too much to expect given that the forum is anonymous and that the topic is polarizing. I do stand behind the claim that what you describe as 'the views of others' is often the same person trying to discourage discussion. And if you don't like that, you can take your own advice and ignore my posts.

Only the views of the BOE matter at this point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For what it is worth, Farmland / Luxmanor did have multiple realtors as part of the petition and at public hearing.

Are there certain professions that are forbidden from advocating that their kids get good education?

Certainly not but these individuals noted do not have children in the system so their motivations are seemingly different. And even they did, reasonable people can assume bias.

It was a public hearing. I find it hard to believe that anyone that talked in front of BOE did not have a kid in one of the affected schools. Point us to the video, or this is just another false accusation, similar to the earlier one on this thread.

Yes there were multiple realtors. Realtors are extremely active on local HOAs and Boards. They are also experts regarding neighborhoods and schools. Not surprising they would be involved in the discussion and nothing wrong with it.

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Anonymous wrote:For what it is worth, Farmland / Luxmanor did have multiple realtors as part of the petition and at public hearing.

Are there certain professions that are forbidden from advocating that their kids get good education?

Certainly not but these individuals noted do not have children in the system so their motivations are seemingly different. And even they did, reasonable people can assume bias.

It was a public hearing. I find it hard to believe that anyone that talked in front of BOE did not have a kid in one of the affected schools. Point us to the video, or this is just another false accusation, similar to the earlier one on this thread.

Yes there were multiple realtors. Realtors are extremely active on local HOAs and Boards. They are also experts regarding neighborhoods and schools. Not surprising they would be involved in the discussion and nothing wrong with it.

The experts want to protect their commissions for the network of neighborhood they service. Such as Farmland.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For what it is worth, Farmland / Luxmanor did have multiple realtors as part of the petition and at public hearing.

Are there certain professions that are forbidden from advocating that their kids get good education?

The problem is when that “profession” is trying to exclude others from the neighborhood school claiming equity and parity when that exclusion is nothing but.

Sure, I guess that also means when they help a client buy a house, you could say are “ trying to “exclude all other people from living in that house.” Technically it is true!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For what it is worth, Farmland / Luxmanor did have multiple realtors as part of the petition and at public hearing.

Are there certain professions that are forbidden from advocating that their kids get good education?

The problem is when that “profession” is trying to exclude others from the neighborhood school claiming equity and parity when that exclusion is nothing but.

Sure, I guess that also means when they help a client buy a house, you could say are “ trying to “exclude all other people from living in that house.” Technically it is true!

They just don’t want WW or VM kids at their school because they’re not the same socioeconomic status as them or they look differently and they believe it may affect the perceived quality of the school and thus the value of their home or the homes they service. On every Redfin add it rates schools…realtors strive to market that. See Montoya comments.

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Anonymous wrote:For what it is worth, Farmland / Luxmanor did have multiple realtors as part of the petition and at public hearing.

Are there certain professions that are forbidden from advocating that their kids get good education?

Certainly not but these individuals noted do not have children in the system so their motivations are seemingly different. And even they did, reasonable people can assume bias.

It was a public hearing. I find it hard to believe that anyone that talked in front of BOE did not have a kid in one of the affected schools. Point us to the video, or this is just another false accusation, similar to the earlier one on this thread.

Yes there were multiple realtors. Realtors are extremely active on local HOAs and Boards. They are also experts regarding neighborhoods and schools. Not surprising they would be involved in the discussion and nothing wrong with it.

The experts want to protect their commissions for the network of neighborhood they service. Such as Farmland.

In other words, they are advocating for better schools in the neighborhood they service and find themselves aligned with parents in that neighborhood that want the same for their kids. Really not that controversial as you seem to think.

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Anonymous wrote:For what it is worth, Farmland / Luxmanor did have multiple realtors as part of the petition and at public hearing.

Are there certain professions that are forbidden from advocating that their kids get good education?

Certainly not but these individuals noted do not have children in the system so their motivations are seemingly different. And even they did, reasonable people can assume bias.

It was a public hearing. I find it hard to believe that anyone that talked in front of BOE did not have a kid in one of the affected schools. Point us to the video, or this is just another false accusation, similar to the earlier one on this thread.

Yes there were multiple realtors. Realtors are extremely active on local HOAs and Boards. They are also experts regarding neighborhoods and schools. Not surprising they would be involved in the discussion and nothing wrong with it.

The experts want to protect their commissions for the network of neighborhood they service. Such as Farmland.

In other words, they are advocating for better schools in the neighborhood they service and find themselves aligned with parents in that neighborhood that want the same for their kids. Really not that controversial as you seem to think.

No, not better. Just whiter and richer.

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Anonymous wrote:For what it is worth, Farmland / Luxmanor did have multiple realtors as part of the petition and at public hearing.

Are there certain professions that are forbidden from advocating that their kids get good education?

Certainly not but these individuals noted do not have children in the system so their motivations are seemingly different. And even they did, reasonable people can assume bias.

It was a public hearing. I find it hard to believe that anyone that talked in front of BOE did not have a kid in one of the affected schools. Point us to the video, or this is just another false accusation, similar to the earlier one on this thread.

Yes there were multiple realtors. Realtors are extremely active on local HOAs and Boards. They are also experts regarding neighborhoods and schools. Not surprising they would be involved in the discussion and nothing wrong with it.

The experts want to protect their commissions for the network of neighborhood they service. Such as Farmland.

In other words, they are advocating for better schools in the neighborhood they service and find themselves aligned with parents in that neighborhood that want the same for their kids. Really not that controversial as you seem to think.

No, not better. Just whiter and richer.

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Anonymous wrote:For what it is worth, Farmland / Luxmanor did have multiple realtors as part of the petition and at public hearing.

Are there certain professions that are forbidden from advocating that their kids get good education?

Certainly not but these individuals noted do not have children in the system so their motivations are seemingly different. And even they did, reasonable people can assume bias.

It was a public hearing. I find it hard to believe that anyone that talked in front of BOE did not have a kid in one of the affected schools. Point us to the video, or this is just another false accusation, similar to the earlier one on this thread.

Yes there were multiple realtors. Realtors are extremely active on local HOAs and Boards. They are also experts regarding neighborhoods and schools. Not surprising they would be involved in the discussion and nothing wrong with it.

The experts want to protect their commissions for the network of neighborhood they service. Such as Farmland.

Yes, for sure. I don’t think anyone is saying otherwise. How people are paid, often explains their actions. The financial impact is certainly what caused them to examine the boundary options and impacts. I just don’t extend that to the conclusion of “they don’t want other people to have equity.” They didn’t create these options, they are not responsible for this process and they have raised realistic questions based on areas within their area of expertise (new developments etc.)

I think you will find that most people commenting are doing so to support their own interests. That’s why I call BS on singling out a few people as boogeymen.

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Anonymous wrote:For what it is worth, Farmland / Luxmanor did have multiple realtors as part of the petition and at public hearing.

Are there certain professions that are forbidden from advocating that their kids get good education?

Certainly not but these individuals noted do not have children in the system so their motivations are seemingly different. And even they did, reasonable people can assume bias.

It was a public hearing. I find it hard to believe that anyone that talked in front of BOE did not have a kid in one of the affected schools. Point us to the video, or this is just another false accusation, similar to the earlier one on this thread.

Yes there were multiple realtors. Realtors are extremely active on local HOAs and Boards. They are also experts regarding neighborhoods and schools. Not surprising they would be involved in the discussion and nothing wrong with it.

The experts want to protect their commissions for the network of neighborhood they service. Such as Farmland.

Yes, for sure. I don’t think anyone is saying otherwise. How people are paid, often explains their actions. The financial impact is certainly what caused them to examine the boundary options and impacts. I just don’t extend that to the conclusion of “they don’t want other people to have equity.” They didn’t create these options, they are not responsible for this process and they have raised realistic questions based on areas within their area of expertise (new developments etc.)

I think you will find that most people commenting are doing so to support their own interests. That’s why I call BS on singling out a few people as boogeymen.

Real estate industrial complex.