Bridgerton Season 4

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I must've missed something. The last episode when they presented Sophie to the queen, why did they tell the queen Sophie was the daughter of Penwood's cousin?

They're making up a lie so she can marry Benedict and blackmailed Araminta into going along with it. The Queen knew they were lying but decided to roll with it.

But if course surely the knew Lord Penwood would know, so maybe they should have also bribed Cressida into playing along.

How is the new Lord Penwood related to Sophie/her father? Uncle/brother?

We don't know, just that he was the next male heir after Sophie's father died. Likely he is not her half brother, as it seems like if that were the case, Sophie would have known him growing up and he would have been more involved in the first half of the season. Probably a cousin or other distant relative. Sophie's dad left no direct heirs (i.e. sons) they would have looked through the Penwood family to find the closes male relative.

I do feel they did a bad job of explaining everyone's relationships on this season and that contributed to the lackluster feel of the season. It was annoying in the first couple episodes when it wasn't 100% clear that Lady Penwood was Sophie's stepmother and Lady Penwood's daughters her sisters. Because Sophie is serving as a maid, and the flashbacks are somewhat vague, I am not sure I even understood the relationships properly in the first episode when Sophie meets Benedict, so instead you're like "uh, who is this woman? are we supposed to know?" And then that just snowballs as the season progresses. It just felt like sort of lazy, imprecise storytelling.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I really liked this season and the episode just before the break (the staircase scene, etc) but I thought this second half was so disappointing. The chemistry wasn't there, the jail and courtroom scenes were ridiculous, neither lead was appealing (Benedict is like an overgrown teenager and mopey, Sophie has zero personality). Sigh. I had high hopes.

The courtroom scenes reminded me of the trail scenes in poldark — basically the process seems to be that rich person testifies with any made up bull, accused stands there without a lawyer or the ability to present witnesses or say anything, judge sentences them to death/jail/transportation to Australia. I don’t know how accurate that is, but if it is — damn, no wonder we had a revolution! Thank you, Bill of Rigjts!

Yep. That’s how Australia and the Americas were originally populated by the Brits.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I really liked this season and the episode just before the break (the staircase scene, etc) but I thought this second half was so disappointing. The chemistry wasn't there, the jail and courtroom scenes were ridiculous, neither lead was appealing (Benedict is like an overgrown teenager and mopey, Sophie has zero personality). Sigh. I had high hopes.

The courtroom scenes reminded me of the trail scenes in poldark — basically the process seems to be that rich person testifies with any made up bull, accused stands there without a lawyer or the ability to present witnesses or say anything, judge sentences them to death/jail/transportation to Australia. I don’t know how accurate that is, but if it is — damn, no wonder we had a revolution! Thank you, Bill of Rigjts!

Yep. That’s how Australia and the Americas were originally populated by the Brits.

They also would round people up in London and send them to colonies, including street kids.

[Anonymous]

I love Benedict and think he is super attractive but the sex scenes in the 2nd half kind of fell flat after the stairwell scene which was kind of hot. Nothing and I mean nothing compares to heated rivalry- they set the bar. But something about Benedict and Sophie didn’t quite add up in the 2nd half. Still love Benedict and his yearning is still hot

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love Benedict and think he is super attractive but the sex scenes in the 2nd half kind of fell flat after the stairwell scene which was kind of hot. Nothing and I mean nothing compares to heated rivalry- they set the bar. But something about Benedict and Sophie didn’t quite add up in the 2nd half. Still love Benedict and his yearning is still hot

I don’t enjoy watching gay sex scenes so that would be a no for me.

I’ve only watched Episode 5, Part 2 so far and I found the sex scene with Benedict and Sophie extremely intimate and hot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I must've missed something. The last episode when they presented Sophie to the queen, why did they tell the queen Sophie was the daughter of Penwood's cousin?

They're making up a lie so she can marry Benedict and blackmailed Araminta into going along with it. The Queen knew they were lying but decided to roll with it.

But if course surely the knew Lord Penwood would know, so maybe they should have also bribed Cressida into playing along.

How is the new Lord Penwood related to Sophie/her father? Uncle/brother?

We don't know, just that he was the next male heir after Sophie's father died. Likely he is not her half brother, as it seems like if that were the case, Sophie would have known him growing up and he would have been more involved in the first half of the season. Probably a cousin or other distant relative. Sophie's dad left no direct heirs (i.e. sons) they would have looked through the Penwood family to find the closes male relative.

I do feel they did a bad job of explaining everyone's relationships on this season and that contributed to the lackluster feel of the season. It was annoying in the first couple episodes when it wasn't 100% clear that Lady Penwood was Sophie's stepmother and Lady Penwood's daughters her sisters. Because Sophie is serving as a maid, and the flashbacks are somewhat vague, I am not sure I even understood the relationships properly in the first episode when Sophie meets Benedict, so instead you're like "uh, who is this woman? are we supposed to know?" And then that just snowballs as the season progresses. It just felt like sort of lazy, imprecise storytelling.

You're supposed to know bc it's Cinderella.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I must've missed something. The last episode when they presented Sophie to the queen, why did they tell the queen Sophie was the daughter of Penwood's cousin?

They're making up a lie so she can marry Benedict and blackmailed Araminta into going along with it. The Queen knew they were lying but decided to roll with it.

But if course surely the knew Lord Penwood would know, so maybe they should have also bribed Cressida into playing along.

How is the new Lord Penwood related to Sophie/her father? Uncle/brother?

We don't know, just that he was the next male heir after Sophie's father died. Likely he is not her half brother, as it seems like if that were the case, Sophie would have known him growing up and he would have been more involved in the first half of the season. Probably a cousin or other distant relative. Sophie's dad left no direct heirs (i.e. sons) they would have looked through the Penwood family to find the closes male relative.

I do feel they did a bad job of explaining everyone's relationships on this season and that contributed to the lackluster feel of the season. It was annoying in the first couple episodes when it wasn't 100% clear that Lady Penwood was Sophie's stepmother and Lady Penwood's daughters her sisters. Because Sophie is serving as a maid, and the flashbacks are somewhat vague, I am not sure I even understood the relationships properly in the first episode when Sophie meets Benedict, so instead you're like "uh, who is this woman? are we supposed to know?" And then that just snowballs as the season progresses. It just felt like sort of lazy, imprecise storytelling.

You're supposed to know bc it's Cinderella.

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Even if someone is unfamiliar with Cinderella I don’t know how it could have been more obvious that Sophie was an illegitimate daughter to Lord Penwood and Amarinta her stepmother, hence Amarinta’s daughter’s are Sophie’s stepsisters.

I enjoyed this season more than many posters, and thought Sophie and Benedict were adorable. I haven’t found Benedict very interesting before so I was surprised at how compelling they were. I enjoyed the subplots for Violet, Charlotte and Lady Agatha, and Mrs. Mandritch. It felt like they didn’t know what to do with Penelope, and I hope they figure out something better next season.

My complaints are that it was so on the nose with Cinderella, I would have liked a little bit more suspense. And I didn’t need to have Amarinta let off the hook so easily. I’d have rather seen her suffer a bit!

[Anonymous]

I liked this season overall though it was a little bland at times. Apparently the book Penwood confrontation was much spicier--Sophie punched her! Come on, we would have loved to see that!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I must've missed something. The last episode when they presented Sophie to the queen, why did they tell the queen Sophie was the daughter of Penwood's cousin?

They're making up a lie so she can marry Benedict and blackmailed Araminta into going along with it. The Queen knew they were lying but decided to roll with it.

But if course surely the knew Lord Penwood would know, so maybe they should have also bribed Cressida into playing along.

How is the new Lord Penwood related to Sophie/her father? Uncle/brother?

We don't know, just that he was the next male heir after Sophie's father died. Likely he is not her half brother, as it seems like if that were the case, Sophie would have known him growing up and he would have been more involved in the first half of the season. Probably a cousin or other distant relative. Sophie's dad left no direct heirs (i.e. sons) they would have looked through the Penwood family to find the closes male relative.

I do feel they did a bad job of explaining everyone's relationships on this season and that contributed to the lackluster feel of the season. It was annoying in the first couple episodes when it wasn't 100% clear that Lady Penwood was Sophie's stepmother and Lady Penwood's daughters her sisters. Because Sophie is serving as a maid, and the flashbacks are somewhat vague, I am not sure I even understood the relationships properly in the first episode when Sophie meets Benedict, so instead you're like "uh, who is this woman? are we supposed to know?" And then that just snowballs as the season progresses. It just felt like sort of lazy, imprecise storytelling.

You're supposed to know bc it's Cinderella.

Yes but because they tell the Cinderella story out of order, this isn't immediately clear. When we meet Sophie, she's just a masked woman at a ball. Her clothes in the first episode don't telegraph "Cinderella" and we know nothing about her other than that she is mysterious. Then we discover she's a maid and that she borrowed clothes to attend the ball, but we still aren't told that Lady Penwood is her stepmother, not directly. Yes, you're like "so is this like Cinderella" but you don't know how much like Cinderella until like the fourth episode. And then you discover it's EXACTLY like Cinderella, and it's a huge let down because you already know that story and you thought this story would be a bit different. But it's not, at all. It's the same story we've all heard/scene a million times.

I think the story would have been more emotionally compelling if they'd told it in a more straightforward way so that we understood from the first moment "ok Sophie is a maid in her step mother's household, she's sneaking out to go to a ball anyway, her step-sister is angling to marry Benedict Bridgerton. And THEN upend the Cinderella expectations with changes. That would have made it feel more surprising. Instead the only surprise is that the story is a retread of a familiar story and this comes as a let-down because you might have entertained the notion it was something else for a bit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I must've missed something. The last episode when they presented Sophie to the queen, why did they tell the queen Sophie was the daughter of Penwood's cousin?

They're making up a lie so she can marry Benedict and blackmailed Araminta into going along with it. The Queen knew they were lying but decided to roll with it.

But if course surely the knew Lord Penwood would know, so maybe they should have also bribed Cressida into playing along.

How is the new Lord Penwood related to Sophie/her father? Uncle/brother?

We don't know, just that he was the next male heir after Sophie's father died. Likely he is not her half brother, as it seems like if that were the case, Sophie would have known him growing up and he would have been more involved in the first half of the season. Probably a cousin or other distant relative. Sophie's dad left no direct heirs (i.e. sons) they would have looked through the Penwood family to find the closes male relative.

I do feel they did a bad job of explaining everyone's relationships on this season and that contributed to the lackluster feel of the season. It was annoying in the first couple episodes when it wasn't 100% clear that Lady Penwood was Sophie's stepmother and Lady Penwood's daughters her sisters. Because Sophie is serving as a maid, and the flashbacks are somewhat vague, I am not sure I even understood the relationships properly in the first episode when Sophie meets Benedict, so instead you're like "uh, who is this woman? are we supposed to know?" And then that just snowballs as the season progresses. It just felt like sort of lazy, imprecise storytelling.

You're supposed to know bc it's Cinderella.

Yes but because they tell the Cinderella story out of order, this isn't immediately clear. When we meet Sophie, she's just a masked woman at a ball. Her clothes in the first episode don't telegraph "Cinderella" and we know nothing about her other than that she is mysterious. Then we discover she's a maid and that she borrowed clothes to attend the ball, but we still aren't told that Lady Penwood is her stepmother, not directly. Yes, you're like "so is this like Cinderella" but you don't know how much like Cinderella until like the fourth episode. And then you discover it's EXACTLY like Cinderella, and it's a huge let down because you already know that story and you thought this story would be a bit different. But it's not, at all. It's the same story we've all heard/scene a million times.

I think the story would have been more emotionally compelling if they'd told it in a more straightforward way so that we understood from the first moment "ok Sophie is a maid in her step mother's household, she's sneaking out to go to a ball anyway, her step-sister is angling to marry Benedict Bridgerton. And THEN upend the Cinderella expectations with changes. That would have made it feel more surprising. Instead the only surprise is that the story is a retread of a familiar story and this comes as a let-down because you might have entertained the notion it was something else for a bit.

It was obvious it was Cinderella from the very first episode. Especially when she had to leave the ball at midnight and her glove fell off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I must've missed something. The last episode when they presented Sophie to the queen, why did they tell the queen Sophie was the daughter of Penwood's cousin?

They're making up a lie so she can marry Benedict and blackmailed Araminta into going along with it. The Queen knew they were lying but decided to roll with it.

But if course surely the knew Lord Penwood would know, so maybe they should have also bribed Cressida into playing along.

How is the new Lord Penwood related to Sophie/her father? Uncle/brother?

We don't know, just that he was the next male heir after Sophie's father died. Likely he is not her half brother, as it seems like if that were the case, Sophie would have known him growing up and he would have been more involved in the first half of the season. Probably a cousin or other distant relative. Sophie's dad left no direct heirs (i.e. sons) they would have looked through the Penwood family to find the closes male relative.

I do feel they did a bad job of explaining everyone's relationships on this season and that contributed to the lackluster feel of the season. It was annoying in the first couple episodes when it wasn't 100% clear that Lady Penwood was Sophie's stepmother and Lady Penwood's daughters her sisters. Because Sophie is serving as a maid, and the flashbacks are somewhat vague, I am not sure I even understood the relationships properly in the first episode when Sophie meets Benedict, so instead you're like "uh, who is this woman? are we supposed to know?" And then that just snowballs as the season progresses. It just felt like sort of lazy, imprecise storytelling.

You're supposed to know bc it's Cinderella.

Yes but because they tell the Cinderella story out of order, this isn't immediately clear. When we meet Sophie, she's just a masked woman at a ball. Her clothes in the first episode don't telegraph "Cinderella" and we know nothing about her other than that she is mysterious. Then we discover she's a maid and that she borrowed clothes to attend the ball, but we still aren't told that Lady Penwood is her stepmother, not directly. Yes, you're like "so is this like Cinderella" but you don't know how much like Cinderella until like the fourth episode. And then you discover it's EXACTLY like Cinderella, and it's a huge let down because you already know that story and you thought this story would be a bit different. But it's not, at all. It's the same story we've all heard/scene a million times.

I think the story would have been more emotionally compelling if they'd told it in a more straightforward way so that we understood from the first moment "ok Sophie is a maid in her step mother's household, she's sneaking out to go to a ball anyway, her step-sister is angling to marry Benedict Bridgerton. And THEN upend the Cinderella expectations with changes. That would have made it feel more surprising. Instead the only surprise is that the story is a retread of a familiar story and this comes as a let-down because you might have entertained the notion it was something else for a bit.

It was obvious it was Cinderella from the very first episode. Especially when she had to leave the ball at midnight and her glove fell off.

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I’m genuinely concerned for anyone that didn’t realize it was Cinderella. Even before the ball, the creation of the dress is ripped from Disney Cinderella, scraps from the attic, the servants do the same things as the mice. It’s right there!

[Anonymous]

this was my favorite season. A lot more going on, and a lot more involved characters.

Is the next season going to focus on Eloise?

[Anonymous]

I just finished Episode 6 last night. I just realized how much I miss Lady Featherington and her shenanigans. They’ve really put her character on the back burner. To be quite frank, the Queen’s storyline with Lady Danbury and Mrs. Mondridge bores me. I don’t understand the whole point of the ladies in waiting and why she would even agree to that. I also don’t get how the Queen can forbid Lady Danbury from traveling. Lady Danbury’s over the top, made up eyebrows also weird me out.

[Anonymous]

A real snoozer of a season.

Sofie was such a bland character, why would someone so interesting and unconventional like Benedict fall so madly for her?

And the Cinderella theme so tired.

The rest of the crew was just as boring.

Maybe now Penelope's breasts can have a break.

[Anonymous]

I did love Sophie and Benedict, but we needed more interesting storylines in the background going on. Francesca bores me to tears. I want more Lady Featherington, Cressida and maybe some sinister drama.

I will say Hyacinth is turning into a gorgeous young lady.