Bridgerton Season 4

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Varley is the new Whistledown

The new voice sounded like her.

No it didn’t. It was still Julie Andrews.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Varley is the new Whistledown

The new voice sounded like her.

No it didn’t. It was still Julie Andrews.

OHHH. I didn't even realize that was her. -dp

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regarding Araminta's ear cuff, they probably did it to cover Katie Leung's cartilage piercing. In other episodes, she actually has a bandaid over it that is visible in some scenes which made people even more mad than the ear cuff:

https://www.eonline.com/news/1428149/bridgerton-season-4-band-aid-appearance

Also I found it mildly distracting that Araminta Gun has the same first name as Cressida's mom, Araminta Cowper. Araminta was a very uncommon name in England in the 1800s, so it's wild to see it on two characters in the same show. There are other name anomalies on Bridgerton, but that one annoyed me more than most because it seems lazy and can't be blamed on the books (Cressida's mom does not have a first name in the books and is just referred to as Lady Cowper).

I did not notice they had the same names!

Who is Cressida's husband and how did they get together? I feel like I missed something.

+1 yeah that confused me too. I really like Cressida and hope she can be a larger part of the next season. I actually like Eloise and Cressida forming a friendship.

It wasn’t explained well but apparently here husband is some cousin or something of Sophie’s father and so inherited the title as the closest male heir. It seems he and Cressida met in wales and she said it was a love match but that’s all they told us. Wales was like total exile for Brit’s in the 18th century. Hence the phrase “welshing on a deal”—if you couldn’t pay your debts, you’d take off to wales to hide out. It’s not a knock on the welsh, it’s a knock on the english who fled there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Varley is the new Whistledown

The new voice sounded like her.

No it didn’t. It was still Julie Andrews.

OHHH. I didn't even realize that was her. -dp

You’ve been watching Bridgerton for 4 seasons and had no idea Julie Andrews was the voiceover for Whistledown??!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've only watched the first two of the last four episodes, but totally agree that so far it's lackluster. I thought the scene where Benedict and Sophie finally do it was so boring, and that Benedict in particular came off as whiny and boring.

In theory, the social conflict of Benedict not being allowed to marry a maid due to social convention, and Sophie being unable to accept being his mistress because of what happened with her mom and her own experience growing up illegitimate, is interesting to me. But the way it's portrayed is so dull. It's too much standing around explaining the unfairness of the situation to each other, not enough action.

I also thought it was very unrealistic when Benedict tells Sophie he's had relationships with men, and she takes like zero beats to be like "sure, yeah, I get that -- what a dumb social convention and I have absorbed and moved on from your bisexuality easily." I'm not saying she needed to object to it, I like the idea of her being open about it. I just think it's incredibly unrealistic that it would be like a side note for these characters. I agree with the PP who said it would have been more interesting to see a transformation in Sophie, where she goes from super restrained (out of necessity) to being willing to buck social rules in pursuit of her own freedom and happiness. The bisexual storyline could have been part of that, but instead I'm supposed to believe that a woman who is freaking out at the idea of being a mistress would be like "oh yeah, sex with men, cool" and then move right along? In Regency England? Sorry, but no. It makes no sense.

I totally agree with this. They just totally glossed over Benedict’s bisexuality. There’s no way Sophie wouldn’t have been shocked.

Also, in the last episode of the season Sophie was a perfect dancer - she knew all the steps. But didn’t she say in episode 1 that’s she’s not a good dancer? How would she have learned that dance while working as a maid? It doesn’t make sense.

Also, Mrs. Mondrich and Lady Danbury had told the Queen that Benedict had fallen in love with a maid. But then when they presented her, they said she was actually nobility. Did the Queen wonder what happened to the maid? Wouldn’t she have been angry with Mrs. Mondrich for lying about the maid story?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Varley is the new Whistledown

The new voice sounded like her.

No it didn’t. It was still Julie Andrews.

OHHH. I didn't even realize that was her. -dp

You’ve been watching Bridgerton for 4 seasons and had no idea Julie Andrews was the voiceover for Whistledown??!

No, I don't google such things, and her voice sounds much older now (which is expected). I haven't heard her speak in years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've only watched the first two of the last four episodes, but totally agree that so far it's lackluster. I thought the scene where Benedict and Sophie finally do it was so boring, and that Benedict in particular came off as whiny and boring.

In theory, the social conflict of Benedict not being allowed to marry a maid due to social convention, and Sophie being unable to accept being his mistress because of what happened with her mom and her own experience growing up illegitimate, is interesting to me. But the way it's portrayed is so dull. It's too much standing around explaining the unfairness of the situation to each other, not enough action.

I also thought it was very unrealistic when Benedict tells Sophie he's had relationships with men, and she takes like zero beats to be like "sure, yeah, I get that -- what a dumb social convention and I have absorbed and moved on from your bisexuality easily." I'm not saying she needed to object to it, I like the idea of her being open about it. I just think it's incredibly unrealistic that it would be like a side note for these characters. I agree with the PP who said it would have been more interesting to see a transformation in Sophie, where she goes from super restrained (out of necessity) to being willing to buck social rules in pursuit of her own freedom and happiness. The bisexual storyline could have been part of that, but instead I'm supposed to believe that a woman who is freaking out at the idea of being a mistress would be like "oh yeah, sex with men, cool" and then move right along? In Regency England? Sorry, but no. It makes no sense.

I totally agree with this. They just totally glossed over Benedict’s bisexuality. There’s no way Sophie wouldn’t have been shocked.

Also, in the last episode of the season Sophie was a perfect dancer - she knew all the steps. But didn’t she say in episode 1 that’s she’s not a good dancer? How would she have learned that dance while working as a maid? It doesn’t make sense.

Also, Mrs. Mondrich and Lady Danbury had told the Queen that Benedict had fallen in love with a maid. But then when they presented her, they said she was actually nobility. Did the Queen wonder what happened to the maid? Wouldn’t she have been angry with Mrs. Mondrich for lying about the maid story?

The queen knew, but let it slide. You could see it in her face and her tone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've only watched the first two of the last four episodes, but totally agree that so far it's lackluster. I thought the scene where Benedict and Sophie finally do it was so boring, and that Benedict in particular came off as whiny and boring.

In theory, the social conflict of Benedict not being allowed to marry a maid due to social convention, and Sophie being unable to accept being his mistress because of what happened with her mom and her own experience growing up illegitimate, is interesting to me. But the way it's portrayed is so dull. It's too much standing around explaining the unfairness of the situation to each other, not enough action.

I also thought it was very unrealistic when Benedict tells Sophie he's had relationships with men, and she takes like zero beats to be like "sure, yeah, I get that -- what a dumb social convention and I have absorbed and moved on from your bisexuality easily." I'm not saying she needed to object to it, I like the idea of her being open about it. I just think it's incredibly unrealistic that it would be like a side note for these characters. I agree with the PP who said it would have been more interesting to see a transformation in Sophie, where she goes from super restrained (out of necessity) to being willing to buck social rules in pursuit of her own freedom and happiness. The bisexual storyline could have been part of that, but instead I'm supposed to believe that a woman who is freaking out at the idea of being a mistress would be like "oh yeah, sex with men, cool" and then move right along? In Regency England? Sorry, but no. It makes no sense.

I totally agree with this. They just totally glossed over Benedict’s bisexuality. There’s no way Sophie wouldn’t have been shocked.

Also, in the last episode of the season Sophie was a perfect dancer - she knew all the steps. But didn’t she say in episode 1 that’s she’s not a good dancer? How would she have learned that dance while working as a maid? It doesn’t make sense.

Also, Mrs. Mondrich and Lady Danbury had told the Queen that Benedict had fallen in love with a maid. But then when they presented her, they said she was actually nobility. Did the Queen wonder what happened to the maid? Wouldn’t she have been angry with Mrs. Mondrich for lying about the maid story?

The queen knew, but let it slide. You could see it in her face and her tone.

How would she know when Sophie was presented as nobility?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've only watched the first two of the last four episodes, but totally agree that so far it's lackluster. I thought the scene where Benedict and Sophie finally do it was so boring, and that Benedict in particular came off as whiny and boring.

In theory, the social conflict of Benedict not being allowed to marry a maid due to social convention, and Sophie being unable to accept being his mistress because of what happened with her mom and her own experience growing up illegitimate, is interesting to me. But the way it's portrayed is so dull. It's too much standing around explaining the unfairness of the situation to each other, not enough action.

I also thought it was very unrealistic when Benedict tells Sophie he's had relationships with men, and she takes like zero beats to be like "sure, yeah, I get that -- what a dumb social convention and I have absorbed and moved on from your bisexuality easily." I'm not saying she needed to object to it, I like the idea of her being open about it. I just think it's incredibly unrealistic that it would be like a side note for these characters. I agree with the PP who said it would have been more interesting to see a transformation in Sophie, where she goes from super restrained (out of necessity) to being willing to buck social rules in pursuit of her own freedom and happiness. The bisexual storyline could have been part of that, but instead I'm supposed to believe that a woman who is freaking out at the idea of being a mistress would be like "oh yeah, sex with men, cool" and then move right along? In Regency England? Sorry, but no. It makes no sense.

I totally agree with this. They just totally glossed over Benedict’s bisexuality. There’s no way Sophie wouldn’t have been shocked.

Also, in the last episode of the season Sophie was a perfect dancer - she knew all the steps. But didn’t she say in episode 1 that’s she’s not a good dancer? How would she have learned that dance while working as a maid? It doesn’t make sense.

Also, Mrs. Mondrich and Lady Danbury had told the Queen that Benedict had fallen in love with a maid. But then when they presented her, they said she was actually nobility. Did the Queen wonder what happened to the maid? Wouldn’t she have been angry with Mrs. Mondrich for lying about the maid story?

The queen knew, but let it slide. You could see it in her face and her tone.

It wasn’t clear to me. The whole ending was a bit rushed and sloppy to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Varley is the new Whistledown

The new voice sounded like her.

No it didn’t. It was still Julie Andrews.

OHHH. I didn't even realize that was her. -dp

You’ve been watching Bridgerton for 4 seasons and had no idea Julie Andrews was the voiceover for Whistledown??!

No, I don't google such things, and her voice sounds much older now (which is expected). I haven't heard her speak in years.

You don’t google such things but you are capable of finding and posting on DCUM. Huh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regarding Araminta's ear cuff, they probably did it to cover Katie Leung's cartilage piercing. In other episodes, she actually has a bandaid over it that is visible in some scenes which made people even more mad than the ear cuff:

https://www.eonline.com/news/1428149/bridgerton-season-4-band-aid-appearance

Also I found it mildly distracting that Araminta Gun has the same first name as Cressida's mom, Araminta Cowper. Araminta was a very uncommon name in England in the 1800s, so it's wild to see it on two characters in the same show. There are other name anomalies on Bridgerton, but that one annoyed me more than most because it seems lazy and can't be blamed on the books (Cressida's mom does not have a first name in the books and is just referred to as Lady Cowper).

I did not notice they had the same names!

Who is Cressida's husband and how did they get together? I feel like I missed something.

+1 yeah that confused me too. I really like Cressida and hope she can be a larger part of the next season. I actually like Eloise and Cressida forming a friendship.

It wasn’t explained well but apparently here husband is some cousin or something of Sophie’s father and so inherited the title as the closest male heir. It seems he and Cressida met in wales and she said it was a love match but that’s all they told us. Wales was like total exile for Brit’s in the 18th century. Hence the phrase “welshing on a deal”—if you couldn’t pay your debts, you’d take off to wales to hide out. It’s not a knock on the welsh, it’s a knock on the english who fled there.

Huh. Isn't the current ruse that Sophie is the daughter of her actual dad's cousin? Could Cressida end up serving as her step mother?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've only watched the first two of the last four episodes, but totally agree that so far it's lackluster. I thought the scene where Benedict and Sophie finally do it was so boring, and that Benedict in particular came off as whiny and boring.

In theory, the social conflict of Benedict not being allowed to marry a maid due to social convention, and Sophie being unable to accept being his mistress because of what happened with her mom and her own experience growing up illegitimate, is interesting to me. But the way it's portrayed is so dull. It's too much standing around explaining the unfairness of the situation to each other, not enough action.

I also thought it was very unrealistic when Benedict tells Sophie he's had relationships with men, and she takes like zero beats to be like "sure, yeah, I get that -- what a dumb social convention and I have absorbed and moved on from your bisexuality easily." I'm not saying she needed to object to it, I like the idea of her being open about it. I just think it's incredibly unrealistic that it would be like a side note for these characters. I agree with the PP who said it would have been more interesting to see a transformation in Sophie, where she goes from super restrained (out of necessity) to being willing to buck social rules in pursuit of her own freedom and happiness. The bisexual storyline could have been part of that, but instead I'm supposed to believe that a woman who is freaking out at the idea of being a mistress would be like "oh yeah, sex with men, cool" and then move right along? In Regency England? Sorry, but no. It makes no sense.

I totally agree with this. They just totally glossed over Benedict’s bisexuality. There’s no way Sophie wouldn’t have been shocked.

Also, in the last episode of the season Sophie was a perfect dancer - she knew all the steps. But didn’t she say in episode 1 that’s she’s not a good dancer? How would she have learned that dance while working as a maid? It doesn’t make sense.

Also, Mrs. Mondrich and Lady Danbury had told the Queen that Benedict had fallen in love with a maid. But then when they presented her, they said she was actually nobility. Did the Queen wonder what happened to the maid? Wouldn’t she have been angry with Mrs. Mondrich for lying about the maid story?

The queen knew, but let it slide. You could see it in her face and her tone.

How would she know when Sophie was presented as nobility?

Because she knew that Benedict was in love with a "maid".

summary:

Lady Danbury told Queen Charlotte that Benedict had fallen for a maid. The Queen was delighted and scandalized by the unconventional romance, and accepted the lie as a way to win her wager regarding Benedict's marriage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Varley is the new Whistledown

The new voice sounded like her.

No it didn’t. It was still Julie Andrews.

OHHH. I didn't even realize that was her. -dp

You’ve been watching Bridgerton for 4 seasons and had no idea Julie Andrews was the voiceover for Whistledown??!

No, I don't google such things, and her voice sounds much older now (which is expected). I haven't heard her speak in years.

You don’t google such things but you are capable of finding and posting on DCUM. Huh.

I find this forum entertaining, so I read it. I don't search for things like "who is the voice of LW" on google because it's really not that important to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think Varley is the new Whistledown

That would be fun.

I love how she was like "is that an automated roasting spit?!" when entering the Bridgerton kitchen.

I do hope she gets a significant raise.

[Anonymous]

Loved the Varley/Lady Featherington reunion at the end!