She picked Tim

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The pettiness is amazing.

A woman who works for the Heartland Institute (lobby for fossil fuels, tobacco and nicotine products, anti-climate science) has lit on a book published by the Minnesota Military and Veteran Museum in connection with the 20th anniversary of 9/11. It includes speeches by people who spoke at a Day of Remembrance event at the MN capitol on 9/11/21. The book's version of Walz's speech quotes him describing seeing a flag-draped casket in a plane at Bagram Air Base in Iraq. The gotcha is that the base is in Afghanistan.

Except. . . someone wrote this version of the speech, which is slightly different than the one he actually gave (the whole ceremony is on youtube) in which he just refers to the tarmac at Bagram, doesn't say air base, doesn' say the country.
It's . . . errata. Which happens.

It appears there are conservatives scouring every damn thing they can find to catch him in a "lie."

As they should. Good for him to be called out. He was never anywhere near Bagram.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is ridiculous to think that being a high school sports coach prepares in any way to serve as a VP.

Lately I've been watching some political shows like "Madam Secretary ". It is striking that in real life we can't expect even remotely the level of competence exhibited by those characters. Sadly, the show writers would make a better ticket than the current shameful offering.

He’s a governor and was a state rep. He’s more qualified than Trump was in 2016 and more qualified than JD Vance is today. You trolls are seriously desperate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Walz has been lying nonstop throughout his career. And now people are bringing the receipts.

So all of you who are complaining about Walz saying IVF when they used IUI, and saying he has been lying are not going to vote, right? Because if you can't tolerate Walz "lying" about which ARTS procedure was used to create their children and that he worked as a E9 but retired as an E8 and mistakenly said that he was a retired E9, must be absolutely living about the many lies that Trump tells daily.

Trump has lied about being a self-made man when his father started him off with hundreds of millions of dollars.
Trump has lied to each of his wives as he has cheated on each of them.
Trump has lied on the stand that he did not sexually assault E Jean Carroll.
Trump has lied about having a sexual affair with Stormy Daniels.
Trump has lied about his financial documents in trying to cover up his affair with Stormy Daniels
Trump has lied about winning the 2020 election.
Trump has lied about being the best president for Black Americans.
Trump has lied about his successes in office. He has lied about doing a better job on the national debt than Obama and Biden when he increased it more than either of them did in their terms in office.
Trump has lied about his respect for the military when he has called them losers and suckers.
Trump has lied about being in a helicopter with Willie Brown.
Trump has lied about the size of his rally crowds. Even comparing his rally crowd to the attendance at the MLK "I Have a Dream" speech.
Trump has lied about paying people who work for him, like all of the lawyers that have been disbarred for defending him with additional legal lies.

Trump has lied more this week than Walz has lied in multiple careers spanning over 30 years.

If honesty and integrity are so important for you, then you have to abstain from voting because if Walz' lies are enough that you would not vote for him, then you most assuredly cannot vote for Trump who has no honesty or integrity.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has been discussed, but I read that even though he said he wouldn’t have a family if there was no IVF, they didn’t actually conceive using IVF - they used IUI. Totally different.

It’s been discussed and it’s a stupid thing to nit pick over. Most people don’t know what IUI is and unless you have zero social skills, you’re not going to explain it every time you discuss it.

Of course if it’s your candidate it’s stupid to nit pick over. The guy lied. He didn’t use IVF, but said he did to score political points. Own it.

Are you really this stupid, or just troll a lot online.

I am smart enough to know that IUI and IVF are two completely different procedures. So there’s that.

Why do you want to know exactly which artificial tube a guy's sperm was put through, you freak?

Because fertilizing an egg outside the body is completely different from fertilizing one inside the body. You freak.

Are you going to treat both of them the same morally, or is one going to be treated differently, you silly pedant?

If you think taking a pipette and inserting sperm into a woman’s uterus is no different than giving her drugs to stimulate the ovaries, putting her under and harvesting the eggs when they’re ready, injecting the egg with sperm in a lab, waiting until they divide enough to be implanted, choosing the best ones, freezing the rest, and then going back in and implanting the embryo in the woman’s uterus, then there is literally no rational conversation to be had here. None.

Yeah, so again, are you going to treat the fertilized products of these conceptions the same, or ... ?

They’re both babies. I don’t see your point. Are the republicans trying to ban IUI specifically?

Anyone?

Broadly speaking, Project 2025 (and similar) has problems with Assisted Reproductive Technology (and others, such as surrogacy, but that's not part of the discussion here). Fertility treatments that only deal with sperm, such as artificial insemination and intrauterine insemination (IUI) do not fall under this definition.

Why wouldn’t Project 2025 have trouble with IUI? The Bible condemns masturbation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The pettiness is amazing.

A woman who works for the Heartland Institute (lobby for fossil fuels, tobacco and nicotine products, anti-climate science) has lit on a book published by the Minnesota Military and Veteran Museum in connection with the 20th anniversary of 9/11. It includes speeches by people who spoke at a Day of Remembrance event at the MN capitol on 9/11/21. The book's version of Walz's speech quotes him describing seeing a flag-draped casket in a plane at Bagram Air Base in Iraq. The gotcha is that the base is in Afghanistan.

Except. . . someone wrote this version of the speech, which is slightly different than the one he actually gave (the whole ceremony is on youtube) in which he just refers to the tarmac at Bagram, doesn't say air base, doesn' say the country.
It's . . . errata. Which happens.

It appears there are conservatives scouring every damn thing they can find to catch him in a "lie."

As they should. Good for him to be called out. He was never anywhere near Bagram.

As a Congressman he was.
The speech was not about himself, except briefly. It was about everyone else, their sacrifices and how they were affected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Walz has been lying nonstop throughout his career. And now people are bringing the receipts.

So all of you who are complaining about Walz saying IVF when they used IUI, and saying he has been lying are not going to vote, right? Because if you can't tolerate Walz "lying" about which ARTS procedure was used to create their children and that he worked as a E9 but retired as an E8 and mistakenly said that he was a retired E9, must be absolutely living about the many lies that Trump tells daily.

Trump has lied about being a self-made man when his father started him off with hundreds of millions of dollars.
Trump has lied to each of his wives as he has cheated on each of them.
Trump has lied on the stand that he did not sexually assault E Jean Carroll.
Trump has lied about having a sexual affair with Stormy Daniels.
Trump has lied about his financial documents in trying to cover up his affair with Stormy Daniels
Trump has lied about winning the 2020 election.
Trump has lied about being the best president for Black Americans.
Trump has lied about his successes in office. He has lied about doing a better job on the national debt than Obama and Biden when he increased it more than either of them did in their terms in office.
Trump has lied about his respect for the military when he has called them losers and suckers.
Trump has lied about being in a helicopter with Willie Brown.
Trump has lied about the size of his rally crowds. Even comparing his rally crowd to the attendance at the MLK "I Have a Dream" speech.
Trump has lied about paying people who work for him, like all of the lawyers that have been disbarred for defending him with additional legal lies.

Trump has lied more this week than Walz has lied in multiple careers spanning over 30 years.

If honesty and integrity are so important for you, then you have to abstain from voting because if Walz' lies are enough that you would not vote for him, then you most assuredly cannot vote for Trump who has no honesty or integrity.

This, but Trumpers are insufferable hypocrites.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is ridiculous to think that being a high school sports coach prepares in any way to serve as a VP.

Lately I've been watching some political shows like "Madam Secretary ". It is striking that in real life we can't expect even remotely the level of competence exhibited by those characters. Sadly, the show writers would make a better ticket than the current shameful offering.

oh my. You don't even see the irony here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The pettiness is amazing.

A woman who works for the Heartland Institute (lobby for fossil fuels, tobacco and nicotine products, anti-climate science) has lit on a book published by the Minnesota Military and Veteran Museum in connection with the 20th anniversary of 9/11. It includes speeches by people who spoke at a Day of Remembrance event at the MN capitol on 9/11/21. The book's version of Walz's speech quotes him describing seeing a flag-draped casket in a plane at Bagram Air Base in Iraq. The gotcha is that the base is in Afghanistan.

Except. . . someone wrote this version of the speech, which is slightly different than the one he actually gave (the whole ceremony is on youtube) in which he just refers to the tarmac at Bagram, doesn't say air base, doesn' say the country.
It's . . . errata. Which happens.

It appears there are conservatives scouring every damn thing they can find to catch him in a "lie."

As they should. Good for him to be called out. He was never anywhere near Bagram.

As a Congressman he was.
The speech was not about himself, except briefly. It was about everyone else, their sacrifices and how they were affected.

gotcha , ^PP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Walz has been lying nonstop throughout his career. And now people are bringing the receipts.

So all of you who are complaining about Walz saying IVF when they used IUI, and saying he has been lying are not going to vote, right? Because if you can't tolerate Walz "lying" about which ARTS procedure was used to create their children and that he worked as a E9 but retired as an E8 and mistakenly said that he was a retired E9, must be absolutely living about the many lies that Trump tells daily.

Trump has lied about being a self-made man when his father started him off with hundreds of millions of dollars.
Trump has lied to each of his wives as he has cheated on each of them.
Trump has lied on the stand that he did not sexually assault E Jean Carroll.
Trump has lied about having a sexual affair with Stormy Daniels.
Trump has lied about his financial documents in trying to cover up his affair with Stormy Daniels
Trump has lied about winning the 2020 election.
Trump has lied about being the best president for Black Americans.
Trump has lied about his successes in office. He has lied about doing a better job on the national debt than Obama and Biden when he increased it more than either of them did in their terms in office.
Trump has lied about his respect for the military when he has called them losers and suckers.
Trump has lied about being in a helicopter with Willie Brown.
Trump has lied about the size of his rally crowds. Even comparing his rally crowd to the attendance at the MLK "I Have a Dream" speech.
Trump has lied about paying people who work for him, like all of the lawyers that have been disbarred for defending him with additional legal lies.

Trump has lied more this week than Walz has lied in multiple careers spanning over 30 years.

If honesty and integrity are so important for you, then you have to abstain from voting because if Walz' lies are enough that you would not vote for him, then you most assuredly cannot vote for Trump who has no honesty or integrity.

This, but Trumpers are insufferable hypocrites.

+1000 how about ignoring them? Or simply responding with links to Trump's litany of lies?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The pettiness is amazing.

A woman who works for the Heartland Institute (lobby for fossil fuels, tobacco and nicotine products, anti-climate science) has lit on a book published by the Minnesota Military and Veteran Museum in connection with the 20th anniversary of 9/11. It includes speeches by people who spoke at a Day of Remembrance event at the MN capitol on 9/11/21. The book's version of Walz's speech quotes him describing seeing a flag-draped casket in a plane at Bagram Air Base in Iraq. The gotcha is that the base is in Afghanistan.

Except. . . someone wrote this version of the speech, which is slightly different than the one he actually gave (the whole ceremony is on youtube) in which he just refers to the tarmac at Bagram, doesn't say air base, doesn' say the country.
It's . . . errata. Which happens.

It appears there are conservatives scouring every damn thing they can find to catch him in a "lie."

As they should. Good for him to be called out. He was never anywhere near Bagram.

But he was in Afghanistan, and Bagram specifically. He was there as a member of Congress.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Walz has been lying nonstop throughout his career. And now people are bringing the receipts.

So all of you who are complaining about Walz saying IVF when they used IUI, and saying he has been lying are not going to vote, right? Because if you can't tolerate Walz "lying" about which ARTS procedure was used to create their children and that he worked as a E9 but retired as an E8 and mistakenly said that he was a retired E9, must be absolutely living about the many lies that Trump tells daily.

Trump has lied about being a self-made man when his father started him off with hundreds of millions of dollars.
Trump has lied to each of his wives as he has cheated on each of them.
Trump has lied on the stand that he did not sexually assault E Jean Carroll.
Trump has lied about having a sexual affair with Stormy Daniels.
Trump has lied about his financial documents in trying to cover up his affair with Stormy Daniels
Trump has lied about winning the 2020 election.
Trump has lied about being the best president for Black Americans.
Trump has lied about his successes in office. He has lied about doing a better job on the national debt than Obama and Biden when he increased it more than either of them did in their terms in office.
Trump has lied about his respect for the military when he has called them losers and suckers.
Trump has lied about being in a helicopter with Willie Brown.
Trump has lied about the size of his rally crowds. Even comparing his rally crowd to the attendance at the MLK "I Have a Dream" speech.
Trump has lied about paying people who work for him, like all of the lawyers that have been disbarred for defending him with additional legal lies.

Trump has lied more this week than Walz has lied in multiple careers spanning over 30 years.

If honesty and integrity are so important for you, then you have to abstain from voting because if Walz' lies are enough that you would not vote for him, then you most assuredly cannot vote for Trump who has no honesty or integrity.

I am the poster that brought it up just a few pages back and I am certainly not voting for Trump or Harris. Still deciding who to write in. Probably my DD. She is honest to a fault.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Walz has been lying nonstop throughout his career. And now people are bringing the receipts.

So all of you who are complaining about Walz saying IVF when they used IUI, and saying he has been lying are not going to vote, right? Because if you can't tolerate Walz "lying" about which ARTS procedure was used to create their children and that he worked as a E9 but retired as an E8 and mistakenly said that he was a retired E9, must be absolutely living about the many lies that Trump tells daily.

Trump has lied about being a self-made man when his father started him off with hundreds of millions of dollars.
Trump has lied to each of his wives as he has cheated on each of them.
Trump has lied on the stand that he did not sexually assault E Jean Carroll.
Trump has lied about having a sexual affair with Stormy Daniels.
Trump has lied about his financial documents in trying to cover up his affair with Stormy Daniels
Trump has lied about winning the 2020 election.
Trump has lied about being the best president for Black Americans.
Trump has lied about his successes in office. He has lied about doing a better job on the national debt than Obama and Biden when he increased it more than either of them did in their terms in office.
Trump has lied about his respect for the military when he has called them losers and suckers.
Trump has lied about being in a helicopter with Willie Brown.
Trump has lied about the size of his rally crowds. Even comparing his rally crowd to the attendance at the MLK "I Have a Dream" speech.
Trump has lied about paying people who work for him, like all of the lawyers that have been disbarred for defending him with additional legal lies.

Trump has lied more this week than Walz has lied in multiple careers spanning over 30 years.

If honesty and integrity are so important for you, then you have to abstain from voting because if Walz' lies are enough that you would not vote for him, then you most assuredly cannot vote for Trump who has no honesty or integrity.

This, but Trumpers are insufferable hypocrites.

+1000 how about ignoring them? Or simply responding with links to Trump's litany of lies?

So it’s bad that Trump lies, but okay that Walz does? Please explain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Walz has been lying nonstop throughout his career. And now people are bringing the receipts.

So all of you who are complaining about Walz saying IVF when they used IUI, and saying he has been lying are not going to vote, right? Because if you can't tolerate Walz "lying" about which ARTS procedure was used to create their children and that he worked as a E9 but retired as an E8 and mistakenly said that he was a retired E9, must be absolutely living about the many lies that Trump tells daily.

Trump has lied about being a self-made man when his father started him off with hundreds of millions of dollars.
Trump has lied to each of his wives as he has cheated on each of them.
Trump has lied on the stand that he did not sexually assault E Jean Carroll.
Trump has lied about having a sexual affair with Stormy Daniels.
Trump has lied about his financial documents in trying to cover up his affair with Stormy Daniels
Trump has lied about winning the 2020 election.
Trump has lied about being the best president for Black Americans.
Trump has lied about his successes in office. He has lied about doing a better job on the national debt than Obama and Biden when he increased it more than either of them did in their terms in office.
Trump has lied about his respect for the military when he has called them losers and suckers.
Trump has lied about being in a helicopter with Willie Brown.
Trump has lied about the size of his rally crowds. Even comparing his rally crowd to the attendance at the MLK "I Have a Dream" speech.
Trump has lied about paying people who work for him, like all of the lawyers that have been disbarred for defending him with additional legal lies.

Trump has lied more this week than Walz has lied in multiple careers spanning over 30 years.

If honesty and integrity are so important for you, then you have to abstain from voting because if Walz' lies are enough that you would not vote for him, then you most assuredly cannot vote for Trump who has no honesty or integrity.

I am the poster that brought it up just a few pages back and I am certainly not voting for Trump or Harris. Still deciding who to write in. Probably my DD. She is honest to a fault.

Congrats on being manipulated by foreign adversaries to throw away your vote, I guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Walz has been lying nonstop throughout his career. And now people are bringing the receipts.

So all of you who are complaining about Walz saying IVF when they used IUI, and saying he has been lying are not going to vote, right? Because if you can't tolerate Walz "lying" about which ARTS procedure was used to create their children and that he worked as a E9 but retired as an E8 and mistakenly said that he was a retired E9, must be absolutely living about the many lies that Trump tells daily.

Trump has lied about being a self-made man when his father started him off with hundreds of millions of dollars.
Trump has lied to each of his wives as he has cheated on each of them.
Trump has lied on the stand that he did not sexually assault E Jean Carroll.
Trump has lied about having a sexual affair with Stormy Daniels.
Trump has lied about his financial documents in trying to cover up his affair with Stormy Daniels
Trump has lied about winning the 2020 election.
Trump has lied about being the best president for Black Americans.
Trump has lied about his successes in office. He has lied about doing a better job on the national debt than Obama and Biden when he increased it more than either of them did in their terms in office.
Trump has lied about his respect for the military when he has called them losers and suckers.
Trump has lied about being in a helicopter with Willie Brown.
Trump has lied about the size of his rally crowds. Even comparing his rally crowd to the attendance at the MLK "I Have a Dream" speech.
Trump has lied about paying people who work for him, like all of the lawyers that have been disbarred for defending him with additional legal lies.

Trump has lied more this week than Walz has lied in multiple careers spanning over 30 years.

If honesty and integrity are so important for you, then you have to abstain from voting because if Walz' lies are enough that you would not vote for him, then you most assuredly cannot vote for Trump who has no honesty or integrity.

I am the poster that brought it up just a few pages back and I am certainly not voting for Trump or Harris. Still deciding who to write in. Probably my DD. She is honest to a fault.

Congrats on being manipulated by foreign adversaries to throw away your vote, I guess.

Manipulated by foreign adversaries? You Dems have lost your minds. Truly.