SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

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Anonymous wrote:In other news, do you think Nixon and Parker realize that Davis can't act and just take it in stride? I know they like her personally. But good lord - it's Hallmark-level bad.

I think she’s going for quirky / funny a la Meg Ryan back in the day. I hate to say this, because it’s ageist, but I think that type of acting can be read as cute when you’re young but looks kinda crazy when you’re older. I remember feeling the same way about Meg Ryan in You’ve Got Mail (especially when she was walking around fake punching the air and saying “fight, fight, fight” after Tom Hanks told her to go to the mattresses).

I posted something similar way upthread, that Davis and to a lesser extent SJP are too old to revive the cutesy schtick they relied on back in the day.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone has changed the dialogue to make it sound like LTW might have had a medical abortion. The line is:

“I just need a minute to wrap my head around this new reality. I will. I always do.”

She doesn’t say she’ll “handle it” or “take care of it.” Quite the opposite: earlier she admitted she had thought about it but decided not to.

I don’t get the need for this particular conspiracy theory. It’s clear there was no need for LTW to deceive her husband my faking a miscarriage. She even willingly goes to the hospital with him.

I think the entirely of the discussion left it more ambiguous. He tells her she can handle it, You always do. He says he will "help." He never offers more than that, except permission to terminate if that's what she wants. The conversation ends with it all being on her. She lies back down with clearly a lot of thoughts. Her comment, "I always do," is said immediately in follow up to the need to wrap her around around her situation, but the repetitive phrasing of "I always do" sounds like she's connecting to his previous comment as well.

PP is right. Lisa literally says she doesn't want to get an abortion. A miscarriage is totally realistic, this is not some covert abortion. You are really weird.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In other news, do you think Nixon and Parker realize that Davis can't act and just take it in stride? I know they like her personally. But good lord - it's Hallmark-level bad.

I think she’s going for quirky / funny a la Meg Ryan back in the day. I hate to say this, because it’s ageist, but I think that type of acting can be read as cute when you’re young but looks kinda crazy when you’re older. I remember feeling the same way about Meg Ryan in You’ve Got Mail (especially when she was walking around fake punching the air and saying “fight, fight, fight” after Tom Hanks told her to go to the mattresses).

I posted something similar way upthread, that Davis and to a lesser extent SJP are too old to revive the cutesy schtick they relied on back in the day.

Yeah. But they will keep being written this way! Lol.

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Anonymous wrote:Re: Aiden’s blabberfest - Would your husband react that way? Would you?

Seems weird.

If my kid had a mental health crisis and was in an accident in which he could have died, in large part because I wasn’t there when he needed me, you bet I’d be hysterical with worry and guilt.

Mental health crisis, or impulsive actions by a petulant teenage boy?

I understand getting upset and feeling guilty.

I don’t understand calling Carrie in tears.

After further reflection, I think the most glaring issue is the fact that he can’t act. Getting this role was a gift. The guy cannot act.

Maybe Aiden is upset because his absence gave his teen a known place to hang out and drink. If Aiden had been there he could have hidden the keys, or been a presence so the kid didn't drink etc. I agree if the dad lives locally is on a one week vacation and this kid does this saying he needs his dad, that would be a overreaction from the kid. However, your dad going from being local to MIA when he doesn't have custody is an adjustment and of course his kid acting out this way is causing guilt.

The crying was very uncomfortable, but not as uncomfortable as Carrie saying for the first time she was afraid and trying to minimize Aiden's guilt, which was natural for an involved parent. Carrie stopped maturing at about the age of 24.

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Fun fact: Nicole Ari Parker’s daughter, who was born with spina bifida, is starting at Howard this week.

[Anonymous]

Just watched the latest episode. My fiancé and I were laughing so hard at Aiden’s crying scene. My gosh, that was terrible acting….completely unbelievable. I am in shock they aired that scene.

I also hated that Stanford ended up as a monk. That was unbelievable as well and just so incredibly stupid.

I love the original girls though. They are absolutely fantastic. And I LOVED the part when Charlotte let her dog in the room.

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Anonymous wrote:Jesus. I have a 13-year-old who still needs his “mommy” and “daddy” in addition to his friends. 14 is still really young.

I think it’s normal and wonder more about what bizarre family dynamic is happening in PP’s family.

DCUM divorced parents are notorious for minimizing how traumatic and difficult divorce is on their children. They selfishly rationalize that because *they* are fine (and have lots of kid-free time to boot!), all is well. So of course divorced parents on this thread are like “what’s Aiden so upset about”? They can’t related, as they personally feel no guilt or concern, as long as they, themselves are happy.

I’m the poster who thought Aiden’s blubbering was bizarre and poor acting.

FTR, I’m not divorced. And I do think parents on dcum grossly underestimate the impact of divorce on their kids.

But haven’t they been separated/divorced for a while?

And he was only away for less than a week (he got the call during his wife’s week while he was in nyc).

Sorry, but it is not normal for a 14 year old to wrap a car around a tree because they missed their dad who hadn’t even been away for a week.

Nobody is saying kids should be totz cool with an absentee parent, but this wasn’t really the case.

Plus: I’m more concerned with the blubbering and bad acting. The scene would have been better had a serious, not crying, Aiden called with an update. A slow, serious cadence would have underscored his concern along with his realization that his kid can’t handle this and thus he won’t be able to make this work.

Relatedly, I’m curious if any of you posters would have been upset with your kid for crashing a car at age 14? It almost sounds like you wouldn’t.

Um, yes, I’d be upset, but “upset” is very layered. You can be mad at the kid one minute, relieved they are alive the next, resolved to be there for them the next second, then feel trapped by the responsibility the next moment. You can feel a thousand different things in a matter of moments. Another thing is, when you finally have the chance to call the person you love, all those floods of feelings that you’ve been managing and handling can come out.

I just think it’s funny that some of you are apparently well-trained actors, telling someone who has had a successful, long-running career in Hollywood how to act.

I doubt most people believe he is a talented actor.

This role was a gift to him the first time around and he’s been lucky to milk it for so long.

Name another show or film he’s been in that demonstrates his acting talent…or any range.

Northern Exposure

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone has changed the dialogue to make it sound like LTW might have had a medical abortion. The line is:

“I just need a minute to wrap my head around this new reality. I will. I always do.”

She doesn’t say she’ll “handle it” or “take care of it.” Quite the opposite: earlier she admitted she had thought about it but decided not to.

I don’t get the need for this particular conspiracy theory. It’s clear there was no need for LTW to deceive her husband my faking a miscarriage. She even willingly goes to the hospital with him.

I think the entirely of the discussion left it more ambiguous. He tells her she can handle it, You always do. He says he will "help." He never offers more than that, except permission to terminate if that's what she wants. The conversation ends with it all being on her. She lies back down with clearly a lot of thoughts. Her comment, "I always do," is said immediately in follow up to the need to wrap her around around her situation, but the repetitive phrasing of "I always do" sounds like she's connecting to his previous comment as well.

PP is right. Lisa literally says she doesn't want to get an abortion. A miscarriage is totally realistic, this is not some covert abortion. You are really weird.

It was the usual American television cop out. Heaven forbid someone actually have an abortion. The second she said that she wouldn’t, I told myself, “Here comes the convenient miscarriage.”

For how the real world works, watch the Canadian series, “Working Moms.” It’s wonderful on many levels. Ivan Reitman’s daughter created it and stars in it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone has changed the dialogue to make it sound like LTW might have had a medical abortion. The line is:

“I just need a minute to wrap my head around this new reality. I will. I always do.”

She doesn’t say she’ll “handle it” or “take care of it.” Quite the opposite: earlier she admitted she had thought about it but decided not to.

I don’t get the need for this particular conspiracy theory. It’s clear there was no need for LTW to deceive her husband my faking a miscarriage. She even willingly goes to the hospital with him.

I think the entirely of the discussion left it more ambiguous. He tells her she can handle it, You always do. He says he will "help." He never offers more than that, except permission to terminate if that's what she wants. The conversation ends with it all being on her. She lies back down with clearly a lot of thoughts. Her comment, "I always do," is said immediately in follow up to the need to wrap her around around her situation, but the repetitive phrasing of "I always do" sounds like she's connecting to his previous comment as well.

PP is right. Lisa literally says she doesn't want to get an abortion. A miscarriage is totally realistic, this is not some covert abortion. You are really weird.

It was the usual American television cop out. Heaven forbid someone actually have an abortion. The second she said that she wouldn’t, I told myself, “Here comes the convenient miscarriage.”

For how the real world works, watch the Canadian series, “Working Moms.” It’s wonderful on many levels. Ivan Reitman’s daughter created it and stars in it.

Carrie had an abortion.
Samantha had TWO abortions.
Miranda came so close she was in the medical office.

How many main characters in one fictional world need to have abortions to make you either:
A) Understand that the women (and men like LTW’s husband) are pro-choice and seriously consider it to be an option, or
B) Feel better about having yours?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In other news, do you think Nixon and Parker realize that Davis can't act and just take it in stride? I know they like her personally. But good lord - it's Hallmark-level bad.

Actually, Nixon’s hit-or-miss as an actor. She’s good in original SATC, horrible in “The Gilded Age,” and was really bad in this guest starring role I recently saw of an old episode of “Law and Order: Criminal Intent.” I think she’s as she can be in AJLT with a terrible script based on terrible storylines the writing crew and producers sadly let her get away with heavily influencing.

[Anonymous]

I would have been better with Aiden’s crying scene if I didn’t have “country Lurch” stuck in my head when I looked at him. Legitimate lol for that line.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In other news, do you think Nixon and Parker realize that Davis can't act and just take it in stride? I know they like her personally. But good lord - it's Hallmark-level bad.

Actually, Nixon’s hit-or-miss as an actor. She’s good in original SATC, horrible in “The Gilded Age,” and was really bad in this guest starring role I recently saw of an old episode of “Law and Order: Criminal Intent.” I think she’s as she can be in AJLT with a terrible script based on terrible storylines the writing crew and producers sadly let her get away with heavily influencing.

She was great in a one off on ER and as Nicolle Wallace in Game Change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fun fact: Nicole Ari Parker’s daughter, who was born with spina bifida, is starting at Howard this week.

Wow, very impressive for the daughter with some health challenges to move to the opposite coast. I applaud her parents for supporting her, and hope she has a great time in DC!

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Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t Miranda get her own apt? She spent decades as law partner, she made millions. All of it couldn’t have been sunk into the Brooklyn house. Her living in that closet and a lane device to have interaction with Nya.

Miranda is moving in with Carrie


Series finale - 10 years in the future; everyone is in their mid to late 60s.

Harry dies, Charlotte moves in, Samantha moves back, they all live together in the fabulous four bedroom, ala modern Golden Girls.

Rose --> Charlotte
Blanche --> Samantha
Dorothy --> Miranda
Sofia --> Carrie

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Wasn't Kristin Davis on Melrose Place and she portrayed a psycho? Honestly I can't really remember but I *think* she was good in that role.

I don't think she's as good as the other actresses but I think her criticism has been overblown. I actually think it's a testament to her acting that on the original SATC, people didn't think she was acting- they just thought she was Charlotte. She's not. I don't think it's a role that lends itself to an Emmy or other Award. She's beautiful and looks like a Park Ave princess and we all know how to act prudish. Not meaty like Miranda or Samantha.