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Anonymous wrote:Re: Aiden’s blabberfest - Would your husband react that way? Would you?

Seems weird.

If my kid had a mental health crisis and was in an accident in which he could have died, in large part because I wasn’t there when he needed me, you bet I’d be hysterical with worry and guilt.

Mental health crisis, or impulsive actions by a petulant teenage boy?

I understand getting upset and feeling guilty.

I don’t understand calling Carrie in tears.

After further reflection, I think the most glaring issue is the fact that he can’t act. Getting this role was a gift. The guy cannot act.

Who else would he call? There has been no daylight between the two of them. It's natural he would seek comfort from the woman he loves.

But yeah, the acting was not good.

It’s one thing to call Carrie.

It’s quite another to blabber the way he did.

He’s just such a bad actor.

Maybe he was mostly upset about his truck?

Plus: what 14 year old boy needs his daddy that much? Anyone with teens knows the normal ones prefer hanging with friends.

Bad writing imho.

I agree they needed a plot shift, but this one was dumb…almost as dumb as the Stanford/monk bit.

Now that Carrie has a fabulous new place, she and Miranda will be roomies in search of a new beginning. Note to storyrunners: do not add any of the new characters to the mix! Let the two gal pals try to reinvent themselves OR let them go all Grey Gardens in that fabulous place.

My teen son needs his father and mother, nothing wrong with that

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Anonymous wrote:Jesus. I have a 13-year-old who still needs his “mommy” and “daddy” in addition to his friends. 14 is still really young.

I think it’s normal and wonder more about what bizarre family dynamic is happening in PP’s family.

DCUM divorced parents are notorious for minimizing how traumatic and difficult divorce is on their children. They selfishly rationalize that because *they* are fine (and have lots of kid-free time to boot!), all is well. So of course divorced parents on this thread are like “what’s Aiden so upset about”? They can’t related, as they personally feel no guilt or concern, as long as they, themselves are happy.

I’m the poster who thought Aiden’s blubbering was bizarre and poor acting.

FTR, I’m not divorced. And I do think parents on dcum grossly underestimate the impact of divorce on their kids.

But haven’t they been separated/divorced for a while?

And he was only away for less than a week (he got the call during his wife’s week while he was in nyc).

Sorry, but it is not normal for a 14 year old to wrap a car around a tree because they missed their dad who hadn’t even been away for a week.

Nobody is saying kids should be totz cool with an absentee parent, but this wasn’t really the case.

Plus: I’m more concerned with the blubbering and bad acting. The scene would have been better had a serious, not crying, Aiden called with an update. A slow, serious cadence would have underscored his concern along with his realization that his kid can’t handle this and thus he won’t be able to make this work.

Relatedly, I’m curious if any of you posters would have been upset with your kid for crashing a car at age 14? It almost sounds like you wouldn’t.

Um, yes, I’d be upset, but “upset” is very layered. You can be mad at the kid one minute, relieved they are alive the next, resolved to be there for them the next second, then feel trapped by the responsibility the next moment. You can feel a thousand different things in a matter of moments. Another thing is, when you finally have the chance to call the person you love, all those floods of feelings that you’ve been managing and handling can come out.

I just think it’s funny that some of you are apparently well-trained actors, telling someone who has had a successful, long-running career in Hollywood how to act.

I doubt most people believe he is a talented actor.

This role was a gift to him the first time around and he’s been lucky to milk it for so long.

Name another show or film he’s been in that demonstrates his acting talent…or any range.

The fact that he has a long IMDB list in and of itself proves that he has talent. Do you know how statistically unlikely it is to be a steady working actor in Hollywood?

I've loved him in everything I've seen him in and still do. This one scene is the only time I didn't find him totally believable.

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Anonymous wrote:They should have had LTW get an abortion. Such a missed opportunity for meaningful storytelling, especially in the current political climate.

We already had two main characters—Carrie and Samantha—talk about their abortion experiences. We don’t need a third main character to go through that. I think a lot more women of LTW’s age related to getting unexpectedly pregnant at an advanced maternal age, feeling conflicted but deciding to keep it, then losing it. In fact, there have been numerous threads about that on DCUM.

It is probably the most realist outcome, at her age.

99% of unwanted pregnancies on TV shows magically end in miscarriage rather than abortion. It's such a cowardly and tired storyline.

Agree. That was especially weak for a show that’s been extra blatant about addressing all things gender.

An abortion or her having the baby with reservations and the impending doom on her life and career would have made more sense here.

You are crazy if you think a character played by a 52-year-old actress was not extremely likely to miscarry an unplanned pregnancy.

It’s baffling to me that people are questioning the storyline. Over 95% of pregnancies when you get to age 50 or around in a miscarriage. Incredibly incredibly likely this is how the story would end. I was actually angry when Charlotte and Lisa were at the glass store, and Lisa was acting as if this baby was gonna be born and she was going to be breast-feeding it.

This is not father of the bride part two folks. If she was 43, even mid 40s, OK, but this is a show about women in their 50s - a viable pregnancy storyline is just not gonna hold water.

But, I am 47 and this is why I am keeping my IUD until 52. I do like that they dealt with the realities of this age - pregnancy while rare is possible, but miscarriage is very probable.

The whole storyline was pointless. The odds of conceiving at that age are about 1%. So for 8 years she never had a follow up conversation with husband about a vasectomy? She is smart, so that’s unbelievable. Realistically, they could have showed her having an abortion, without shame or guilt.

The lack of an abortion storyline doesn’t bother me, because like others have said this franchise has dealt with that issue plenty, and come on, do we really need a real life example to show that these incredibly modern, high powered, progressive New York City women are pro choice? There’s just no need for that story line… We get it.

It does bother me about the 8 years and no further vasectomy conversation. I knew my husband would put it off, and my OB/GYN urged me to get an IUD and I’m so glad I did because he procrastinates and then we just never had to deal with it.

But yeah, that seemed like a silly conversation. Clearly, they’ve been using some thing or she would’ve gotten pregnant previously.

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Anonymous wrote:Re: Aiden’s blabberfest - Would your husband react that way? Would you?

Seems weird.

If my kid had a mental health crisis and was in an accident in which he could have died, in large part because I wasn’t there when he needed me, you bet I’d be hysterical with worry and guilt.

Mental health crisis, or impulsive actions by a petulant teenage boy?

I understand getting upset and feeling guilty.

I don’t understand calling Carrie in tears.

After further reflection, I think the most glaring issue is the fact that he can’t act. Getting this role was a gift. The guy cannot act.

Who else would he call? There has been no daylight between the two of them. It's natural he would seek comfort from the woman he loves.

But yeah, the acting was not good.

It’s one thing to call Carrie.

It’s quite another to blabber the way he did.

He’s just such a bad actor.

Maybe he was mostly upset about his truck?

Plus: what 14 year old boy needs his daddy that much? Anyone with teens knows the normal ones prefer hanging with friends.

Bad writing imho.

I agree they needed a plot shift, but this one was dumb…almost as dumb as the Stanford/monk bit.

Now that Carrie has a fabulous new place, she and Miranda will be roomies in search of a new beginning. Note to storyrunners: do not add any of the new characters to the mix! Let the two gal pals try to reinvent themselves OR let them go all Grey Gardens in that fabulous place.

My teen son needs his father and mother, nothing wrong with that

Everyday?

Because nobody disputes that kids need their parents. The issue here is whether it’s normal/plausible that a 14 year old would wrap a truck around a tree because they missed their dad who hadn’t even been away for a week and was living with his very loving mother.

We are also stating the obvious bad acting and over the top response which seemed really out of character for Aiden. Sad and sullen OR flipping out angry would have been more in line with the character.

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Anonymous wrote:Re: Aiden’s blabberfest - Would your husband react that way? Would you?

Seems weird.

If my kid had a mental health crisis and was in an accident in which he could have died, in large part because I wasn’t there when he needed me, you bet I’d be hysterical with worry and guilt.

Mental health crisis, or impulsive actions by a petulant teenage boy?

I understand getting upset and feeling guilty.

I don’t understand calling Carrie in tears.

After further reflection, I think the most glaring issue is the fact that he can’t act. Getting this role was a gift. The guy cannot act.

Who else would he call? There has been no daylight between the two of them. It's natural he would seek comfort from the woman he loves.

But yeah, the acting was not good.

It’s one thing to call Carrie.

It’s quite another to blabber the way he did.

He’s just such a bad actor.

Maybe he was mostly upset about his truck?

Plus: what 14 year old boy needs his daddy that much? Anyone with teens knows the normal ones prefer hanging with friends.

Bad writing imho.

I agree they needed a plot shift, but this one was dumb…almost as dumb as the Stanford/monk bit.

Now that Carrie has a fabulous new place, she and Miranda will be roomies in search of a new beginning. Note to storyrunners: do not add any of the new characters to the mix! Let the two gal pals try to reinvent themselves OR let them go all Grey Gardens in that fabulous place.

My teen son needs his father and mother, nothing wrong with that

Everyday?

Because nobody disputes that kids need their parents. The issue here is whether it’s normal/plausible that a 14 year old would wrap a truck around a tree because they missed their dad who hadn’t even been away for a week and was living with his very loving mother.

We are also stating the obvious bad acting and over the top response which seemed really out of character for Aiden. Sad and sullen OR flipping out angry would have been more in line with the character.

This was a specific situation. Blowout fight with mom led to his wanting to escape to dad. Did you not pay attention?

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Anonymous wrote:Re: Aiden’s blabberfest - Would your husband react that way? Would you?

Seems weird.

If my kid had a mental health crisis and was in an accident in which he could have died, in large part because I wasn’t there when he needed me, you bet I’d be hysterical with worry and guilt.

Mental health crisis, or impulsive actions by a petulant teenage boy?

I understand getting upset and feeling guilty.

I don’t understand calling Carrie in tears.

After further reflection, I think the most glaring issue is the fact that he can’t act. Getting this role was a gift. The guy cannot act.

Who else would he call? There has been no daylight between the two of them. It's natural he would seek comfort from the woman he loves.

But yeah, the acting was not good.

It’s one thing to call Carrie.

It’s quite another to blabber the way he did.

He’s just such a bad actor.

Maybe he was mostly upset about his truck?

Plus: what 14 year old boy needs his daddy that much? Anyone with teens knows the normal ones prefer hanging with friends.

Bad writing imho.

I agree they needed a plot shift, but this one was dumb…almost as dumb as the Stanford/monk bit.

Now that Carrie has a fabulous new place, she and Miranda will be roomies in search of a new beginning. Note to storyrunners: do not add any of the new characters to the mix! Let the two gal pals try to reinvent themselves OR let them go all Grey Gardens in that fabulous place.

My teen son needs his father and mother, nothing wrong with that

Everyday?

Because nobody disputes that kids need their parents. The issue here is whether it’s normal/plausible that a 14 year old would wrap a truck around a tree because they missed their dad who hadn’t even been away for a week and was living with his very loving mother.

We are also stating the obvious bad acting and over the top response which seemed really out of character for Aiden. Sad and sullen OR flipping out angry would have been more in line with the character.

This was a specific situation. Blowout fight with mom led to his wanting to escape to dad. Did you not pay attention?

Most kids don’t opt to crash a car into a tree. Don’t pretend it’s normal.

And a blubbering Aiden was out of character.

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No one considers that Aiden’s tears started as feeling bad about his son’s issues and his being away from him but then morphed into realizing he has to walk away from the love of his life having just rediscovered her after 20 years?

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Anonymous wrote:Re: Aiden’s blabberfest - Would your husband react that way? Would you?

Seems weird.

If my kid had a mental health crisis and was in an accident in which he could have died, in large part because I wasn’t there when he needed me, you bet I’d be hysterical with worry and guilt.

Mental health crisis, or impulsive actions by a petulant teenage boy?

I understand getting upset and feeling guilty.

I don’t understand calling Carrie in tears.

After further reflection, I think the most glaring issue is the fact that he can’t act. Getting this role was a gift. The guy cannot act.

Who else would he call? There has been no daylight between the two of them. It's natural he would seek comfort from the woman he loves.

But yeah, the acting was not good.

It’s one thing to call Carrie.

It’s quite another to blabber the way he did.

He’s just such a bad actor.

Maybe he was mostly upset about his truck?

Plus: what 14 year old boy needs his daddy that much? Anyone with teens knows the normal ones prefer hanging with friends.

Bad writing imho.

I agree they needed a plot shift, but this one was dumb…almost as dumb as the Stanford/monk bit.

Now that Carrie has a fabulous new place, she and Miranda will be roomies in search of a new beginning. Note to storyrunners: do not add any of the new characters to the mix! Let the two gal pals try to reinvent themselves OR let them go all Grey Gardens in that fabulous place.

My teen son needs his father and mother, nothing wrong with that

Everyday?

Because nobody disputes that kids need their parents. The issue here is whether it’s normal/plausible that a 14 year old would wrap a truck around a tree because they missed their dad who hadn’t even been away for a week and was living with his very loving mother.

We are also stating the obvious bad acting and over the top response which seemed really out of character for Aiden. Sad and sullen OR flipping out angry would have been more in line with the character.

…based on what you know of the character from 20 years ago, when he was a single man and not a father.

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Anonymous wrote:Re: Aiden’s blabberfest - Would your husband react that way? Would you?

Seems weird.

If my kid had a mental health crisis and was in an accident in which he could have died, in large part because I wasn’t there when he needed me, you bet I’d be hysterical with worry and guilt.

Mental health crisis, or impulsive actions by a petulant teenage boy?

I understand getting upset and feeling guilty.

I don’t understand calling Carrie in tears.

After further reflection, I think the most glaring issue is the fact that he can’t act. Getting this role was a gift. The guy cannot act.

Who else would he call? There has been no daylight between the two of them. It's natural he would seek comfort from the woman he loves.

But yeah, the acting was not good.

It’s one thing to call Carrie.

It’s quite another to blabber the way he did.

He’s just such a bad actor.

Maybe he was mostly upset about his truck?

Plus: what 14 year old boy needs his daddy that much? Anyone with teens knows the normal ones prefer hanging with friends.

Bad writing imho.

I agree they needed a plot shift, but this one was dumb…almost as dumb as the Stanford/monk bit.

Now that Carrie has a fabulous new place, she and Miranda will be roomies in search of a new beginning. Note to storyrunners: do not add any of the new characters to the mix! Let the two gal pals try to reinvent themselves OR let them go all Grey Gardens in that fabulous place.

My teen son needs his father and mother, nothing wrong with that

Everyday?

Because nobody disputes that kids need their parents. The issue here is whether it’s normal/plausible that a 14 year old would wrap a truck around a tree because they missed their dad who hadn’t even been away for a week and was living with his very loving mother.

We are also stating the obvious bad acting and over the top response which seemed really out of character for Aiden. Sad and sullen OR flipping out angry would have been more in line with the character.

…based on what you know of the character from 20 years ago, when he was a single man and not a father.

Fair point.

After all, he did turn into a big puss who refused to set foot in her apartment…so I guess it makes sense that he would blubber over the phone about an accident where his kid merely broke a couple bones instead of being the carpenter country cowboy his character is known for.

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Nobody said it’s *normal* to crash a car. But we have some backstory that this kid is emo at best and possibly has some other mental health issues. I’m sure Aidan still loves him.

And two wonderful parents can have a teenager capable of drinking beer and crashing a car. They live on in the country on a farm—he’s probably driven the truck a bit and has some experience drinking beer with his friends.

All that said, HUGE Aidan fan here—but I did think his cry-acting wasn’t great. It reminded me of this bad crying scene between R&L in Gilmore Girls. You want to be crying with them—but you just can’t because the acting is so bad. I wish I felt differently.

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In other news, do you think Nixon and Parker realize that Davis can't act and just take it in stride? I know they like her personally. But good lord - it's Hallmark-level bad.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone has changed the dialogue to make it sound like LTW might have had a medical abortion. The line is:

“I just need a minute to wrap my head around this new reality. I will. I always do.”

She doesn’t say she’ll “handle it” or “take care of it.” Quite the opposite: earlier she admitted she had thought about it but decided not to.

I don’t get the need for this particular conspiracy theory. It’s clear there was no need for LTW to deceive her husband my faking a miscarriage. She even willingly goes to the hospital with him.

I think the entirely of the discussion left it more ambiguous. He tells her she can handle it, You always do. He says he will "help." He never offers more than that, except permission to terminate if that's what she wants. The conversation ends with it all being on her. She lies back down with clearly a lot of thoughts. Her comment, "I always do," is said immediately in follow up to the need to wrap her around around her situation, but the repetitive phrasing of "I always do" sounds like she's connecting to his previous comment as well.

Fair. But I still think the convo (and episode) was just about the unfairness of moms being on the hook for child rearing. If she wanted an abortion, she’d have that burden too, of course. But there’s no reason for her to lie to her supportive husband about not wanting one.

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Anonymous wrote:In other news, do you think Nixon and Parker realize that Davis can't act and just take it in stride? I know they like her personally. But good lord - it's Hallmark-level bad.

I think she’s going for quirky / funny a la Meg Ryan back in the day. I hate to say this, because it’s ageist, but I think that type of acting can be read as cute when you’re young but looks kinda crazy when you’re older. I remember feeling the same way about Meg Ryan in You’ve Got Mail (especially when she was walking around fake punching the air and saying “fight, fight, fight” after Tom Hanks told her to go to the mattresses).

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Anonymous wrote:Re: Aiden’s blabberfest - Would your husband react that way? Would you?

Seems weird.

If my kid had a mental health crisis and was in an accident in which he could have died, in large part because I wasn’t there when he needed me, you bet I’d be hysterical with worry and guilt.

Mental health crisis, or impulsive actions by a petulant teenage boy?

I understand getting upset and feeling guilty.

I don’t understand calling Carrie in tears.

After further reflection, I think the most glaring issue is the fact that he can’t act. Getting this role was a gift. The guy cannot act.

Who else would he call? There has been no daylight between the two of them. It's natural he would seek comfort from the woman he loves.

But yeah, the acting was not good.

It’s one thing to call Carrie.

It’s quite another to blabber the way he did.

He’s just such a bad actor.

Maybe he was mostly upset about his truck?

Plus: what 14 year old boy needs his daddy that much? Anyone with teens knows the normal ones prefer hanging with friends.

Bad writing imho.

I agree they needed a plot shift, but this one was dumb…almost as dumb as the Stanford/monk bit.

Now that Carrie has a fabulous new place, she and Miranda will be roomies in search of a new beginning. Note to storyrunners: do not add any of the new characters to the mix! Let the two gal pals try to reinvent themselves OR let them go all Grey Gardens in that fabulous place.

My teen son needs his father and mother, nothing wrong with that

Everyday?

Because nobody disputes that kids need their parents. The issue here is whether it’s normal/plausible that a 14 year old would wrap a truck around a tree because they missed their dad who hadn’t even been away for a week and was living with his very loving mother.

We are also stating the obvious bad acting and over the top response which seemed really out of character for Aiden. Sad and sullen OR flipping out angry would have been more in line with the character.

…based on what you know of the character from 20 years ago, when he was a single man and not a father.

Fair point.

After all, he did turn into a big puss who refused to set foot in her apartment…so I guess it makes sense that he would blubber over the phone about an accident where his kid merely broke a couple bones instead of being the carpenter country cowboy his character is known for.

I didn’t like him the first time around (his voice and the way he speaks are nails on a chalkboard to me) but he has definitely gotten even worse with age

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Anonymous wrote:Re: Aiden’s blabberfest - Would your husband react that way? Would you?

Seems weird.

If my kid had a mental health crisis and was in an accident in which he could have died, in large part because I wasn’t there when he needed me, you bet I’d be hysterical with worry and guilt.

Mental health crisis, or impulsive actions by a petulant teenage boy?

I understand getting upset and feeling guilty.

I don’t understand calling Carrie in tears.

After further reflection, I think the most glaring issue is the fact that he can’t act. Getting this role was a gift. The guy cannot act.

Who else would he call? There has been no daylight between the two of them. It's natural he would seek comfort from the woman he loves.

But yeah, the acting was not good.

It’s one thing to call Carrie.

It’s quite another to blabber the way he did.

He’s just such a bad actor.

Maybe he was mostly upset about his truck?

Plus: what 14 year old boy needs his daddy that much? Anyone with teens knows the normal ones prefer hanging with friends.

Bad writing imho.

I agree they needed a plot shift, but this one was dumb…almost as dumb as the Stanford/monk bit.

Now that Carrie has a fabulous new place, she and Miranda will be roomies in search of a new beginning. Note to storyrunners: do not add any of the new characters to the mix! Let the two gal pals try to reinvent themselves OR let them go all Grey Gardens in that fabulous place.

My teen son needs his father and mother, nothing wrong with that

Everyday?

Because nobody disputes that kids need their parents. The issue here is whether it’s normal/plausible that a 14 year old would wrap a truck around a tree because they missed their dad who hadn’t even been away for a week and was living with his very loving mother.

We are also stating the obvious bad acting and over the top response which seemed really out of character for Aiden. Sad and sullen OR flipping out angry would have been more in line with the character.

why does this poster keep going on about this incident not being normal?....of course it's NOT normal. that is the crux of the issue and why it was so disturbing. Clearly the kid is not "normal"; there is some other element going on, either mental illness, severe anxiety, or another disability. This is the first time it's manifesting itself in a way where his son got hurt. Duh! And as far as Corbet's acting is concerned, he fits right in with the rest of the cast...no Laurence Oliviers in that bunch. But to be fair, they are given some 5$ chuck in terms of a script and asked to turn it into fillet mignon.