Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 4

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it sounds like everyone has thrown in the towel on the Kavanaugh nomination. Is there still any chance he gets voted down?

Yes, a 10.5% chance.

On a different note, we can still make his dining experiences unpleasant.

Please seriously consider getting a life before doing something like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's face it: the Democrats were out foxed by the Republicans and especially McConnell.

Hard to admit it but that is the truth.

+1

No. Actually, it appears that the Dems scored an "own goal."

Probably a more apt description.

Why are Democrats so fricking dumb? Is it any wonder we lost in 2016?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's face it: the Democrats were out foxed by the Republicans and especially McConnell.

Hard to admit it but that is the truth.

+1

I don't think anyone was "foxing" anyone. The Democrats truly objected to him. The Republicans didn't GAF. The end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just donated in support of Collins' opponent if she votes "Yes."

Get ready to ante-up for Manchin's and Heitkamp's opponents too (maybe 1 or 2 more).

Dem here. But if the seat is already lost, they get a pass to cross over. They both have tough but salvageable races to win in a month. I’d rather they win them and give Dems the Senate and therefore the power to shut down all Trump nominations to everything, than have a Quixotic no vote from them. Losing with 53 no votes has the same result as losing with 51. And could well be the difference in who controls the Senate.

+1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh will get 54 votes. Book it.

In 2019, a Democratic House of Representative will investigate Kavanaugh’s sexual assault, and bring him up for impeachment hearings on charges of lying to Congress. Book it.

Have fun! He’ll be acquitted in the senate where it takes 60 votes and the dems will suffer mightily in the next election.

We will. Thanks. He won’t be removed. But what is about to happen to him will make Bill Clinton’s impeachment look tame.

Remind me how did the Clinton impeachment work out for the republicans?

Who won the presidency a couple years later? I’ll wait here while you look it up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Kavanaugh is confirmed, it will be because of Collins and Murkowski. Flake alone isn’t enough votes. Heitkamp and Manchin will decide what to do based on how Collins and Murkowski vote (because why tank their re-election campaigns with futile “no” votes), and you know they’re going to find that out in advance. Collins and Murkowski will decide together how they’re going to vote, and will vote the same way to give each other cover.

So if he’s confirmed, let us never forget it will be because Collins and Murkowski threw women under the bus in multiple respects. They should no longer get to play the centrist-supporter-of-women card.

The take away from this episode is the following:

1. Any candidate was going to be the target of a Dem search and destroy politics to block 5th seat going conservative

2. The SJC process is "broken" - we could have come to the same conclusion about an uncorroborated allegation without the Dems dragging TWO families through the mud. The new Chairman of the SJC will reform the process

3. The Dems will take a hit because of #2 and for attempting to weaponize the MeToo platform - the ruse was exposed and it is offensive to all sides

4. Kavanugh will be confirmed with 1 or 2 moderate Dems based on his 20+ years on the bench and excellent peer rating

Or:

1. Gorsuch got through fine. And Trump should have never put this guy forward. McConnell told this would happen and asked him not to nominate Kav because of his background. Whether anything was “proven” or not, this guy has skeletons.

2. Congress is broken, and the majority party in Congress for the last 8 years has been the Republicans.

3. If Kav is confirmed, the Republican losses in the midterm will be much worse than you can possibly imagine. Women who were upset about sexual assault put a Democrat into the Senate in Alabama. You seem to have no clue about the raw fury many women are feeling right now.

4. Unless two R senators vote no, Heitcamp and Manchin need to vote yes. It’s more important to Dems that they keep their seats than that they prove some point if the confirmation is going to happen. That’s how Dems take back the Senate. And shut down all consideration of any of Trumps nominees for anything, period. No hearings for any Trump nominee. And Trump has yet to fill more than half of the Senate confirmed appointments and has a penchant for firing members of his cabinet.

Two sides to every coin.

And—

5. Kavanaugh will always have an asterisks beside his name. He will always be a problem for the Court. And a Democratic House will impeach him. Will he keep his seat? Probably. Will he spend two years discussing in minute detail which other GP boy he had a Devil’s Triangle with and which orafice he entered? The same way he wanted to go with Bill Clinton? Yep. Will they subpoena all of his Bush era documents and got through them page by page and selectively embarrass him? Yep. Will he spdeserve it? Yep.

Right.

White women were so furious that they favored Roy Moore 63-34 percent. In fact, Doug Jones barely won mainly due to African Americans getting the vote out.
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/why-white-women-voted-for-roy-moore-in-the-alabama-senate-race

I know that the Democrats are trying to rile up millennial women to storm the polls in November, but they are playing with fire. Older women see through this and are not as keen on burning men at the stake over allegations of crimes that happened when they were minors. If anything, Kavanaugh controversy has gotten men more worked up than women.

You don't speak for older women. Older women who watched him testify are smart enough to know that this was not judicial comportment, and he was partisan and evasive. You can't deflect from that. R's are pushing him through for political reasons, whipping up the battle of the sexes to deflect from his more serious flaws, and not caring about the effect it will have on the legal system in our country. Older women see through this too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh will get 54 votes. Book it.

In 2019, a Democratic House of Representative will investigate Kavanaugh’s sexual assault, and bring him up for impeachment hearings on charges of lying to Congress. Book it.

Have fun! He’ll be acquitted in the senate where it takes 60 votes and the dems will suffer mightily in the next election.

We will. Thanks. He won’t be removed. But what is about to happen to him will make Bill Clinton’s impeachment look tame.

It'll suck for his wife and kids when it all gets aired, but I don't think he really cares about that.

And I don’t really care. Do you?

Wow, you sure are a nasty one wishing ill on innocent children. Despicable.

It’s like y’all say about kids in cages. Their dad has the power to stop it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it sounds like everyone has thrown in the towel on the Kavanaugh nomination. Is there still any chance he gets voted down?

Yes, a 10.5% chance.

On a different note, we can still make his dining experiences unpleasant.

Please seriously consider getting a life before doing something like that.

Why? Someone needs to call out the emperor for having no clothes. If I see him anywhere I'll be happy to ask him if he's played his favorite drinking game, Devil's Triangle, lately.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh will get 54 votes. Book it.

In 2019, a Democratic House of Representative will investigate Kavanaugh’s sexual assault, and bring him up for impeachment hearings on charges of lying to Congress. Book it.

Have fun! He’ll be acquitted in the senate where it takes 60 votes and the dems will suffer mightily in the next election.

We will. Thanks. He won’t be removed. But what is about to happen to him will make Bill Clinton’s impeachment look tame.

Remind me how did the Clinton impeachment work out for the republicans?

Who won the presidency a couple years later? I’ll wait here while you look it up.

Another time the Democrat got the popular vote, IIRC.

[Anonymous]

Decent theory despite the partisan source.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/10/the-real-reason-the-white-house-told-the-fbi-not-to-interview-christine-blasey-ford/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it sounds like everyone has thrown in the towel on the Kavanaugh nomination. Is there still any chance he gets voted down?

Yes, a 10.5% chance.

On a different note, we can still make his dining experiences unpleasant.

Please seriously consider getting a life before doing something like that.

Why? Someone needs to call out the emperor for having no clothes. If I see him anywhere I'll be happy to ask him if he's played his favorite drinking game, Devil's Triangle, lately.

Find a hobby. He doesn’t care what you think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's face it: the Democrats were out foxed by the Republicans and especially McConnell.

Hard to admit it but that is the truth.

+1

No. Actually, it appears that the Dems scored an "own goal."

Probably a more apt description.

Why are Democrats so fricking dumb? Is it any wonder we lost in 2016?

I don’t think that’s fair. Dems are the minority party. Kav was about to sail through. They threw a Hail Mary. It was always a long shot.

[Anonymous]

So is there any chance that, inspired by this terrible experience, Justice K very much eschews his partisan past and strives to be a true Kennedy replacement, albeit somewhat more conservative?

[Anonymous]

Murkowski is now saying she's not sure the FBI did a sufficient investigation. If she doesn't sign on, Collins is screwed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Kavanaugh is confirmed, it will be because of Collins and Murkowski. Flake alone isn’t enough votes. Heitkamp and Manchin will decide what to do based on how Collins and Murkowski vote (because why tank their re-election campaigns with futile “no” votes), and you know they’re going to find that out in advance. Collins and Murkowski will decide together how they’re going to vote, and will vote the same way to give each other cover.

So if he’s confirmed, let us never forget it will be because Collins and Murkowski threw women under the bus in multiple respects. They should no longer get to play the centrist-supporter-of-women card.

The take away from this episode is the following:

1. Any candidate was going to be the target of a Dem search and destroy politics to block 5th seat going conservative

2. The SJC process is "broken" - we could have come to the same conclusion about an uncorroborated allegation without the Dems dragging TWO families through the mud. The new Chairman of the SJC will reform the process

3. The Dems will take a hit because of #2 and for attempting to weaponize the MeToo platform - the ruse was exposed and it is offensive to all sides

4. Kavanugh will be confirmed with 1 or 2 moderate Dems based on his 20+ years on the bench and excellent peer rating

Or:

1. Gorsuch got through fine. And Trump should have never put this guy forward. McConnell told this would happen and asked him not to nominate Kav because of his background. Whether anything was “proven” or not, this guy has skeletons.

2. Congress is broken, and the majority party in Congress for the last 8 years has been the Republicans.

3. If Kav is confirmed, the Republican losses in the midterm will be much worse than you can possibly imagine. Women who were upset about sexual assault put a Democrat into the Senate in Alabama. You seem to have no clue about the raw fury many women are feeling right now.

4. Unless two R senators vote no, Heitcamp and Manchin need to vote yes. It’s more important to Dems that they keep their seats than that they prove some point if the confirmation is going to happen. That’s how Dems take back the Senate. And shut down all consideration of any of Trumps nominees for anything, period. No hearings for any Trump nominee. And Trump has yet to fill more than half of the Senate confirmed appointments and has a penchant for firing members of his cabinet.

Two sides to every coin.

And—

5. Kavanaugh will always have an asterisks beside his name. He will always be a problem for the Court. And a Democratic House will impeach him. Will he keep his seat? Probably. Will he spend two years discussing in minute detail which other GP boy he had a Devil’s Triangle with and which orafice he entered? The same way he wanted to go with Bill Clinton? Yep. Will they subpoena all of his Bush era documents and got through them page by page and selectively embarrass him? Yep. Will he spdeserve it? Yep.

Right.

White women were so furious that they favored Roy Moore 63-34 percent. In fact, Doug Jones barely won mainly due to African Americans getting the vote out.
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/why-white-women-voted-for-roy-moore-in-the-alabama-senate-race

I know that the Democrats are trying to rile up millennial women to storm the polls in November, but they are playing with fire. Older women see through this and are not as keen on burning men at the stake over allegations of crimes that happened when they were minors. If anything, Kavanaugh controversy has gotten men more worked up than women.

You don't speak for older women. Older women who watched him testify are smart enough to know that this was not judicial comportment, and he was partisan and evasive. You can't deflect from that. R's are pushing him through for political reasons, whipping up the battle of the sexes to deflect from his more serious flaws, and not caring about the effect it will have on the legal system in our country. Older women see through this too.

Preach sister!