Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 4

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Anonymous wrote:If Kavanaugh is confirmed, it will be because of Collins and Murkowski. Flake alone isn’t enough votes. Heitkamp and Manchin will decide what to do based on how Collins and Murkowski vote (because why tank their re-election campaigns with futile “no” votes), and you know they’re going to find that out in advance. Collins and Murkowski will decide together how they’re going to vote, and will vote the same way to give each other cover.

So if he’s confirmed, let us never forget it will be because Collins and Murkowski threw women under the bus in multiple respects. They should no longer get to play the centrist-supporter-of-women card.


The take away from this episode is the following:

1. Any candidate was going to be the target of a Dem search and destroy politics to block 5th seat going conservative

2. The SJC process is "broken" - we could have come to the same conclusion about an uncorroborated allegation without the Dems dragging TWO families through the mud. The new Chairman of the SJC will reform the process

3. The Dems will take a hit because of #2 and for attempting to weaponize the MeToo platform - the ruse was exposed and it is offensive to all sides

4. Kavanugh will be confirmed with 1 or 2 moderate Dems based on his 20+ years on the bench and excellent peer rating



Or:

1. Gorsuch got through fine. And Trump should have never put this guy forward. McConnell told this would happen and asked him not to nominate Kav because of his background. Whether anything was “proven” or not, this guy has skeletons.

2. Congress is broken, and the majority party in Congress for the last 8 years has been the Republicans.

3. If Kav is confirmed, the Republican losses in the midterm will be much worse than you can possibly imagine. Women who were upset about sexual assault put a Democrat into the Senate in Alabama. You seem to have no clue about the raw fury many women are feeling right now.

4. Unless two R senators vote no, Heitcamp and Manchin need to vote yes. It’s more important to Dems that they keep their seats than that they prove some point if the confirmation is going to happen. That’s how Dems take back the Senate. And shut down all consideration of any of Trumps nominees for anything, period. No hearings for any Trump nominee. And Trump has yet to fill more than half of the Senate confirmed appointments and has a penchant for firing members of his cabinet.

Two sides to every coin.

And—

5. Kavanaugh will always have an asterisks beside his name. He will always be a problem for the Court. And a Democratic House will impeach him. Will he keep his seat? Probably. Will he spend two years discussing in minute detail which other GP boy he had a Devil’s Triangle with and which orafice he entered? The same way he wanted to go with Bill Clinton? Yep. Will they subpoena all of his Bush era documents and got through them page by page and selectively embarrass him? Yep. Will he spdeserve it? Yep.


Right.

White women were so furious that they favored Roy Moore 63-34 percent. In fact, Doug Jones barely won mainly due to African Americans getting the vote out.
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/why-white-women-voted-for-roy-moore-in-the-alabama-senate-race

I know that the Democrats are trying to rile up millennial women to storm the polls in November, but they are playing with fire. Older women see through this and are not as keen on burning men at the stake over allegations of crimes that happened when they were minors. If anything, Kavanaugh controversy has gotten men more worked up than women.
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Anonymous wrote:Let's face it: the Democrats were out foxed by the Republicans and especially McConnell.

Hard to admit it but that is the truth.


+1
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Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh will get 54 votes. Book it.

In 2019, a Democratic House of Representative will investigate Kavanaugh’s sexual assault, and bring him up for impeachment hearings on charges of lying to Congress. Book it.



I know you want to believe this, but you know deep down it won't happen. How are they going to investigate a sexual assault where the victim doesn't know where it happened. when it happened and all her witnesses know nothing about it. You are better off praying for the health of RBG for the next 6 years.


Lying to Congress is the low hanging fruit. Get ready for 2 years of discussing Devils trigales and whether he had one, with whom and when. Book it.



Keep hope alive!
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Yes or no answer only: Did Kavanaugh lie in his testimony?
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Anonymous wrote:The letter from the law professors who believe Kavanaugh should not be confirmed now has more than 1,700 signatures.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/03/opinion/kavanaugh-law-professors-letter.html


How many law professors are there in the US? Like 2300 or so? This is pretty significant.


Totally irrelevant. Stop hanging your hopes on such nonsense.


No, this is quite significant.

Flake agreed to the FBI investigation because our country "was being torn apart." Well, a white wash of an investigation is only going to make that worse.

The Supreme Court is the one institution that we need to stay above the fray. As someone said better than I

His scornful demeanor, his claim that he was a victim of “revenge” and his threatening reference that “what goes around comes around” combined to reveal Judge Kavanagh’s intent to serve as a political hatchet man bent on lashing out against perceived enemies for however long he serves.

This will do great damage to the Court as an institution.


Have you met law professors? Most are beyond mediocre. Just because they are lawyers it does not give them any real insight.

Ha! Everyone knows that law professors aren’t real lawyers.


And everyone knows that most real lawyers never appear in Federal Court. They hustle for small time, routine .egsl work. What’s your point? They are an important part of the legal community.

And any lawyer who is being honest knows that most law schools have professors w a decent range of political viewpoints. There is a much higher representation of conservative voices in law schools than most other areas of academia.

I’ve never encountered a single conservative one.
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Anonymous wrote:Let's face it: the Democrats were out foxed by the Republicans and especially McConnell.

Hard to admit it but that is the truth.


+1


No. Actually, it appears that the Dems scored an "own goal."
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Anonymous wrote:Just donated in support of Collins' opponent if she votes "Yes."



Get ready to ante-up for Manchin's and Heitkamp's opponents too (maybe 1 or 2 more).


Dem here. But if the seat is already lost, they get a pass to cross over. They both have tough but salvageable races to win in a month. I’d rather they win them and give Dems the Senate and therefore the power to shut down all Trump nominations to everything, than have a Quixotic no vote from them. Losing with 53 no votes has the same result as losing with 51. And could well be the difference in who controls the Senate.
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Betting odds now at 89.5% in favor of confirmation.
Anonymous
So it sounds like everyone has thrown in the towel on the Kavanaugh nomination. Is there still any chance he gets voted down?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh will get 54 votes. Book it.

In 2019, a Democratic House of Representative will investigate Kavanaugh’s sexual assault, and bring him up for impeachment hearings on charges of lying to Congress. Book it.


Have fun! He’ll be acquitted in the senate where it takes 60 votes and the dems will suffer mightily in the next election.


We will. Thanks. He won’t be removed. But what is about to happen to him will make Bill Clinton’s impeachment look tame.


Remind me how did the Clinton impeachment work out for the republicans?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh will get 54 votes. Book it.

In 2019, a Democratic House of Representative will investigate Kavanaugh’s sexual assault, and bring him up for impeachment hearings on charges of lying to Congress. Book it.


Have fun! He’ll be acquitted in the senate where it takes 60 votes and the dems will suffer mightily in the next election.


We will. Thanks. He won’t be removed. But what is about to happen to him will make Bill Clinton’s impeachment look tame.


It'll suck for his wife and kids when it all gets aired, but I don't think he really cares about that.


And I don’t really care. Do you?
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Anonymous wrote:So it sounds like everyone has thrown in the towel on the Kavanaugh nomination. Is there still any chance he gets voted down?


Yes, a 10.5% chance.

On a different note, we can still make his dining experiences unpleasant.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh will get 54 votes. Book it.

In 2019, a Democratic House of Representative will investigate Kavanaugh’s sexual assault, and bring him up for impeachment hearings on charges of lying to Congress. Book it.


Have fun! He’ll be acquitted in the senate where it takes 60 votes and the dems will suffer mightily in the next election.


We will. Thanks. He won’t be removed. But what is about to happen to him will make Bill Clinton’s impeachment look tame.


It'll suck for his wife and kids when it all gets aired, but I don't think he really cares about that.


And I don’t really care. Do you?

Wow, you sure are a nasty one wishing ill on innocent children. Despicable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So it sounds like everyone has thrown in the towel on the Kavanaugh nomination. Is there still any chance he gets voted down?


Sure. Everyone had thrown in the towel when Flake asked for the FBI interview. It ain’t over till McTurtle sings.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Betting odds now at 89.5% in favor of confirmation.


Thank God.
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