Biden's VP?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Looks like Bass is out, too bad. My favorite of the lot.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/04/karen-bass-eulogized-communist-party-usa-leader-391455


Makes me want her as vp even more.

But this coupled with Scientology and Castro will be too easy to caricature.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Looks like Bass is out, too bad. My favorite of the lot.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/04/karen-bass-eulogized-communist-party-usa-leader-391455

Yes, it's a wrap. And that's the thing - tapping an "outsider" as the VP has its pros-n-cons. Bass is very refreshing, but she's also not vetted - and that presents too many risks for Democrats at a critical juncture. No unforced errors. Fairly, or unfairly, this brand is going to stick with Bass for a while, if not forever.
Anonymous
Grisham or Demmings.
Anonymous
Triple joint-vice presidency: Benson, Nessel and Whitman. Would definitely capture Michigan. Sigh.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Looks like Bass is out, too bad. My favorite of the lot.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/04/karen-bass-eulogized-communist-party-usa-leader-391455


Yeah, well, like they say. You go to bed with dogs, you wake up with fleas.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like Bass is out, too bad. My favorite of the lot.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/04/karen-bass-eulogized-communist-party-usa-leader-391455


Yeah, well, like they say. You go to bed with dogs, you wake up with fleas.



She's hardly the first young person to consort with self-identified communist activists in the 70s then work within the establishment after. But given that she's more progressive than some other prospects, yeah she'll be too easy to tag as "radical left."
Anonymous
Don't know about Bass, but Rice would be the worst pick of all:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/05/republicans-susan-rice-vice-president-391480
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like Bass is out, too bad. My favorite of the lot.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/04/karen-bass-eulogized-communist-party-usa-leader-391455


Makes me want her as vp even more.

But this coupled with Scientology and Castro will be too easy to caricature.




Such a dumb story. The reason she didn't reference his communism in her eulogy is because she was only concerned with his community activist accomplishments. Just like scientology, she didn't endorse the cult but merely praised one sentence about racial equality in its charter. She always looks for the common ground, which is what makes her an effective bipartisan legislator and a potentially unifying figure in the party. I agree with PP she'll probably be too easy to tag with radical leftist, especially to midwestern swing voters.
Anonymous
The only safe pick is Tammy Duckworth. Her military service and disability give her armor none of the other prospects have. She'll be a loyal #2. Not my first choice, but he should just do it and get on with it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The only safe pick is Tammy Duckworth. Her military service and disability give her armor none of the other prospects have. She'll be a loyal #2. Not my first choice, but he should just do it and get on with it.


I like Tammy but think Biden does need a Black vp to guarantee turnout. Whichever one polls best with the Black community.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The only safe pick is Tammy Duckworth. Her military service and disability give her armor none of the other prospects have. She'll be a loyal #2. Not my first choice, but he should just do it and get on with it.


Agree that it should be down to a Tammy at this point. Either Duckworth or Baldwin (preferably Baldwin because she has a lot more experience).

Bass would be a great House Majority Leader. Steny has been in that role long enough. If Pelosi decides to retire, Bass would be in a perfect position to succeed her as speaker.

Rice should be well positioned to be a cabinet secretary, although Defense might be better for her than State given her reported temperament issues. She is not a diplomat.

Harris could have the AG job if she wants it, or would be a strong candidate to be an unconventional Supreme Court pick. Alternatively, she could just run again in 2024. Biden will probably need to give her something good to keep that from happening.

Warren will probably become the most influential member of the Senate. Biden can rely on her to develop and pass a domestic policy agenda. Warren may eventually become Majority Leader if AOC takes out Schumer.

Whitmer and Lance-Bottoms are still in their respective first terms but would be well positioned for something else in the future.

Demings will likely continue being a member of Congress in a safe district and would be a great resource and surrogate on law enforcement reform issues in the first term.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The only safe pick is Tammy Duckworth. Her military service and disability give her armor none of the other prospects have. She'll be a loyal #2. Not my first choice, but he should just do it and get on with it.


Agree that it should be down to a Tammy at this point. Either Duckworth or Baldwin (preferably Baldwin because she has a lot more experience).

Bass would be a great House Majority Leader. Steny has been in that role long enough. If Pelosi decides to retire, Bass would be in a perfect position to succeed her as speaker.

Rice should be well positioned to be a cabinet secretary, although Defense might be better for her than State given her reported temperament issues. She is not a diplomat.

Harris could have the AG job if she wants it, or would be a strong candidate to be an unconventional Supreme Court pick. Alternatively, she could just run again in 2024. Biden will probably need to give her something good to keep that from happening.

Warren will probably become the most influential member of the Senate. Biden can rely on her to develop and pass a domestic policy agenda. Warren may eventually become Majority Leader if AOC takes out Schumer.

Whitmer and Lance-Bottoms are still in their respective first terms but would be well positioned for something else in the future.

Demings will likely continue being a member of Congress in a safe district and would be a great resource and surrogate on law enforcement reform issues in the first term.



I agree with all of this except I don't think Rice would do well as Sec Def at all. Military brass won't response well to her "temperament issues." Comportment and communication style matter a lot at the Pentagon.
Because she's a policy wonk and not remotely a diplomat, I do agree Sec State is not right for her either. Senior advisor to the president, if she's willing?
Anonymous
^^Michele Flourney is a likely pick for Sec Def and she's a star. Would be amazing to have the first female Sec Def.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The only safe pick is Tammy Duckworth. Her military service and disability give her armor none of the other prospects have. She'll be a loyal #2. Not my first choice, but he should just do it and get on with it.


Agree that it should be down to a Tammy at this point. Either Duckworth or Baldwin (preferably Baldwin because she has a lot more experience).

Bass would be a great House Majority Leader. Steny has been in that role long enough. If Pelosi decides to retire, Bass would be in a perfect position to succeed her as speaker.

Rice should be well positioned to be a cabinet secretary, although Defense might be better for her than State given her reported temperament issues. She is not a diplomat.

Harris could have the AG job if she wants it, or would be a strong candidate to be an unconventional Supreme Court pick. Alternatively, she could just run again in 2024. Biden will probably need to give her something good to keep that from happening.

Warren will probably become the most influential member of the Senate. Biden can rely on her to develop and pass a domestic policy agenda. Warren may eventually become Majority Leader if AOC takes out Schumer.

Whitmer and Lance-Bottoms are still in their respective first terms but would be well positioned for something else in the future.

Demings will likely continue being a member of Congress in a safe district and would be a great resource and surrogate on law enforcement reform issues in the first term.



I agree with all of this except I don't think Rice would do well as Sec Def at all. Military brass won't response well to her "temperament issues." Comportment and communication style matter a lot at the Pentagon.
Because she's a policy wonk and not remotely a diplomat, I do agree Sec State is not right for her either. Senior advisor to the president, if she's willing?


The brass would have to work with her, or they would be replaced or reassigned, no? Rice reportedly is a savvy bureaucrat. That may be part of the reason why she has acquired so many political enemies. Who better to run a huge bureaucracy? Biden will need strong people around him as I think the working assumption will have to be that he will be the head of state, but little else.

While the VP process has been terrible for numerous reasons, an end result with an African American female House Majority Leader, Supreme Court Justice, and Secretary of Defense would be pretty remarkable. Those would all be historic firsts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Don't know about Bass, but Rice would be the worst pick of all:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/05/republicans-susan-rice-vice-president-391480



Oy. This is what I said about Rice from the beginning. She's the only one, maybe other than Warren, who would clearly boost GOP turnout. Although I don't think electability should be his number one concern--clear the election is more a referendum on Trump than anything else--it's not irrelevant.
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