Biden's VP?

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly believe Trump would feign a health complication and drop out if Joe added Michelle Obama to his ticket. He'd know he'd be creamed in November.

I also think Whitmer is tough because attacking her makes him and GOP look like a bully attacking a "mom". Where as attacking Warren, Harris, Abrams actually plays well with his base.

I really don't understand where this idea of Michelle Obama being an unbeatable pick comes from.

Don't get me wrong - I love, love Michelle Obama. I think she'd be a great President or whatever she would like to be, but she's never held public office. And while she's wildly popular on the left, not so much on the right. This type of blind spot with Hillary Clinton is why Trump won in 2016.

I am puzzled too. She was a great First Lady. I loved her. That's it.

What are her accomplishments that we are even comparing her to Harris, Warren and the other women who are head and shoulders above her in governing and legislative experience?

Obviously the focus is on electability not governing credentials. She has none to speak of, mainly because as a Black woman she was contained in a tiny box (could not be perceived as too assertive!) and because she and her mom had to raise the girls.

Kind of highjacking the thread, but Michelle Obama was as contained as other First Ladies with the possible exception of Hillary Clinton. I don't think she was constrained any more because she was black. Our tradition, for better or worse (I'd say worse) is that First Ladies have to give up whatever else they were doing to be First Lady. Cherie Blair continued practicing law in London when her husband was the Prime Minister.

I missed the part where Cherie Black was depicted on the cover of the New Yorker with a machine gun slung across her back, sporting an Afro and wearing combat boots a la Angela Davis. Are you really asserting that Michelle didn't have to work extra hard to avoid coming off as "an angry black woman?" Remember all of the hyper focus on her traveling when none was given to Laura Bush or Milania? You think that has nothing to do with race? Seriously?

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Anonymous wrote:There is no reason to think that Biden doesn’t know who the VP is. For whatever reason he’s chosen not to disclose. That doesn’t make him indecisive.

I’m with the poster who believes that joe has no idea what is going on and is simply waiting at home, where he’s been out of the public eye since July28, waiting to be told what to say. And hoping he can pronounce the name correctly

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Anonymous wrote:There is no reason to think that Biden doesn’t know who the VP is. For whatever reason he’s chosen not to disclose. That doesn’t make him indecisive.

I’m with the poster who believes that joe has no idea what is going on and is simply waiting at home, where he’s been out of the public eye since July28, waiting to be told what to say. And hoping he can pronounce the name correctly

Uh huh

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I said it before, I’ll say it again. MO deserved better before, and deserves better now. 100% support and defend her decision to not put on her swamping boots. She held herself with class and dignity despite criticism and judgement from everyone, even black women. She rose above and beyond the calling and I will always admire and respect her for the way that she elevated national thinking and expectation not just with ourselves, but with others, and even in our families. Nothing will change that, and the resolve to remove such a contradiction of grace and respect in our public office is fueled in deep appreciation of their family’s contributions to our country. Even today. She reads books to my child, her husband encourages teens and young adults to engage in their local communities. They roll up their sleeves, and so it, step-by-step, with courage and good character.

You cannot buy or mimick that kind of dynamic that she created. She is in a class all of her own.

Can we move on? it makes me sad that we don’t have this type of attitude leading our country, or the world’s responses right now. She isn’t running, and it is pointless to consider how things would be if she were. The best thing to do is make her strides for women and decency count - and support the character that can best keep the fire going in the torch Biden is carrying forward in a few months.

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You know, voting for Biden really means voting for his VP pick as the next President, right? No way he makes it 4 years.

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Anonymous wrote:You know, voting for Biden really means voting for his VP pick as the next President, right? No way he makes it 4 years.

Voting for Biden means VOTING TO DUMP TRUMP



Biden's VP could shoot a puppy on 5th Avenue and they would still get my vote. And if you know how much I love puppies, you'd know HOW much I hate Trump and want him gone.

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Anonymous wrote:I stand by my assertion, he knows who it is, the waiting it out is strategy. The date was to satisfy inpatient people.

Waiting may give his supporters anxiety, but it works very well for him politically. Right now, the story in the news is Trump's complete failure with the economy, the pandemic response, his legal woes, and his imbecilic tweets. Trump does best when he has a target to ridicule and insult. Right now, his only target is Biden and frankly after his long career, there is nothing really new that Trump can come up with that hasn't already been thrown at Biden. Biden at this point is pretty much teflon to everyone who is sick of Trump, much like Trump is to his base. So, it makes Trump impotent, which is only good for Biden. Right now Trump is his own worst enemy.

If Biden announces his VP pick, he gives Trump something to target with his sophomoric insults. It allow him to redirect the narrative away from his political and management failures and his legal problems. Biden can sit on his pick until September or October and it will take a lot of the wind out of Trump's sails. He will have so many things to focus on last minute as they hit the last few weeks of the campaign trail, the few debates that Biden will commit to and it will concentrate the election down to the keys. The VP pick will not be a major issue in the last 8 weeks that it would be 12-14 weeks out (now). The longer Biden waits, the more he sets the pandemic and the economy as the keystones of the election.

Exactly. There's really know need to know the VP right now. So we can have more time to tear her apart? Because really that's all that will happen. Look at this forum that's full of supporters, every single person that has been mentioned has been ripped to shreds, now maginify that 100 x by the GOP mudslinging campaign. The less time spent in the dirt actually works in our favor. People are so addicted to the drama they can't see it. He should announce late August or early September.

Disagree. Biden set an August 1 deadline. If he lets it slip too much, he comes off as indecisive and irritates the 10 women he did not pick by dragging it out. Plus, a delay reinforces the "Sleepy Joe" moniker. He also should announce already so she can go out and raise a bunch of new money. I believe Trump has a huge cash advantage.

We aren't worried. I can see you are worried about your man Trump which is why you are here with your faux concern attempting to stir up doubt. We're locked int. We're ready to take America back and make it great again, while you cry into your little red hat.

Process matters. Biden has been in quarantine for the last 4-5 months with little else to do but still could not make a decision by his own deadline and has not even conducted a single job interview yet. Many of the women in contention had to go out and defend Biden against the Tara Reade allegations, which went against their brands, while Biden just sat around for weeks before issuing his denial. Biden's team seems to have compelled Sen. Warren to compromise her strong belief against big money fundraising by asking for her help in that kind of fundraising (seems similar to Trump sharing a plate of frog legs with Mitt Romney). Dragging this out further will only lead to more opposition research being dumped in the media by contenders or their teams. That is demeaning to every woman on the list.

You have no intention of voting for Biden and his VP, anyway, so this shouldn't matter to you.

What? It matters. Making a timely pick will unify the party and end the intra-party attacks. There will be a lot of positive coverage of the choice, whomever she is. Biden also ran a pretty bad process where Anita Hill was concerned. He allowed testimony that attacked her character but did not call witnesses who would have defended her. Seems like a pattern. Would he do this to Chris Dodd or John Kerry if they were on his appointee list?

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Anonymous wrote:You know, voting for Biden really means voting for his VP pick as the next President, right? No way he makes it 4 years.

Voting for Biden means VOTING TO DUMP TRUMP



Biden's VP could shoot a puppy on 5th Avenue and they would still get my vote. And if you know how much I love puppies, you'd know HOW much I hate Trump and want him gone.

Nice sign

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“ What? It matters. Making a timely pick will unify the party and end the intra-party attacks. There will be a lot of positive coverage of the choice, whomever she is. Biden also ran a pretty bad process where Anita Hill was concerned. He allowed testimony that attacked her character but did not call witnesses who would have defended her. Seems like a pattern. Would he do this to Chris Dodd or John Kerry if they were on his appointee list?”

NP. Different times call for different measures. And I disagree with the suggestion that the party isn’t unified, just because there are differences. Suggesting this is why posters are accusing you of being disingenuous about your concern. The rule book was burned by Trump. Those of us who love our country a are trying to stomp out the fire, and salvage what pages we can of the hundreds year old text.

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Anonymous wrote:“ What? It matters. Making a timely pick will unify the party and end the intra-party attacks. There will be a lot of positive coverage of the choice, whomever she is. Biden also ran a pretty bad process where Anita Hill was concerned. He allowed testimony that attacked her character but did not call witnesses who would have defended her. Seems like a pattern. Would he do this to Chris Dodd or John Kerry if they were on his appointee list?”

NP. Different times call for different measures. And I disagree with the suggestion that the party isn’t unified, just because there are differences. Suggesting this is why posters are accusing you of being disingenuous about your concern. The rule book was burned by Trump. Those of us who love our country a are trying to stomp out the fire, and salvage what pages we can of the hundreds year old text.

This is ultimately a product launch. Biden has been letting the candidates snipe and undermine each other through donors, surrogates, and in the media for way too long. Just look at all the opposition research conveyed in so many of the 202 pages above this one. There is no actual campaigning going on and so not much else for reporters to cover about the campaign except the prolonged search and in-fighting. Biden should make a decision and take control of the narrative.

And, yes, if Dodd or Kerry were getting swift boated by their fellow Democrats, Biden would find a way to put a stop to it.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no reason to think that Biden doesn’t know who the VP is. For whatever reason he’s chosen not to disclose. That doesn’t make him indecisive.

I’m with the poster who believes that joe has no idea what is going on and is simply waiting at home, where he’s been out of the public eye since July28, waiting to be told what to say. And hoping he can pronounce the name correctly

Uh huh

Is that an Israeli rapper?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is no reason to think that Biden doesn’t know who the VP is. For whatever reason he’s chosen not to disclose. That doesn’t make him indecisive.

I’m with the poster who believes that joe has no idea what is going on and is simply waiting at home, where he’s been out of the public eye since July28, waiting to be told what to say. And hoping he can pronounce the name correctly

Uh huh

Is that an Israeli rapper?

Nah, it's a call out to his best buds, the Jews. (but say it with rhythm, Mr. President)

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Looks like the Republicans are nervous about Rice. Tucker Carlson on the offensive https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-biden-vp-susan-rice

Oh and she is right to insinuate that Trump is a Kremlin pawn

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is no reason to think that Biden doesn’t know who the VP is. For whatever reason he’s chosen not to disclose. That doesn’t make him indecisive.

I’m with the poster who believes that joe has no idea what is going on and is simply waiting at home, where he’s been out of the public eye since July28, waiting to be told what to say. And hoping he can pronounce the name correctly

Uh huh

Is that an Israeli rapper?

Nah, it's a call out to his best buds, the Jews. (but say it with rhythm, Mr. President)

Yuck, anti-Semite. Sick sick sick.

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Looks like Bass is out, too bad. My favorite of the lot.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/04/karen-bass-eulogized-communist-party-usa-leader-391455