Boundary Review Meetings

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Anonymous wrote:The split at wolftrap should not have been a priority as it was an almost even split. But Kilmer needed help.

Capacity at Kilmer can be resolved by sending existing Kilmer/Madison students to Thoreau. That is the only change needed to get them below 105%

Wolftrap/Marshall families’ dream of moving to Madison was put into peril when Westbriar/Madison families demanded to stay at Madison. If those students stay at Madison, they either

need to move to Thoreau, which pushes the school above 105% or they will stay at Kilmer and it will remain a split feeder (something like 4%)

Marshall families will not be happy if the result of this exercise leaves them with more split feeders in their pyramid than what they started with (only Madison schools are being fixed and Shrevewood is turning into a split feeder) and an attendance island for Kilmer/Marshall.

Reid was asked multiple times "If the Westbriar families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Marshall remain at Madison, will the Wolftrap families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Madison still move to Madison?"

In each instance, she said yes. In at least one instance, she interrupted someone asking the question to say yes. She said she'd met with the principals of both Marshall (Litz) and Madison (Calvert) and the numbers still worked.

I don't see how they do a 180 turn without Reid forever losing credibility in the community. At a minimum, she ought to schedule an in-person meeting at Wolftrap, apologize profusely in person, and explain why they might have since concluded they need to leave Wolftrap a split feeder, whether it's to avoid overcrowding Thoreau, avoid driving up the FARMS rate at Marshall, avoid making the existing attendance island at Westbriar worse, etc.

And even then more will start pupil placing to Madison, because they've had Madison and AP dangled right in front of their faces by FCPS and Reid.

Well good thing for her these meetings were not being recorded. Because the wolftrap students will have to be moved. I heard them say that too at the last meetings break out group. The fcps rep said that will be the only big change the westbriar/wolftrap switch

Who’s to say some parents weren’t recording and in any event Melanie Meren was there when Reid repeatedly told the Wolftrap families now at Marshall they’d still be moved to Madison. If they reverse this I’d expect Meren to excoriate Reid at a future School Board meeting and for this to be the beginning of the end of Reid’s tenure as superintendent. You can’t just show up, make false statements because you want to be everyone’s friend, and walk away unscathed.

Frankly I’m appalled she made the comments in the first place, whether she sticks to them or not. The window for community feedback has not yet closed so they haven’t reviewed feedback from the boundary tool or from pyramid BRAC members.

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Anonymous wrote:The split at wolftrap should not have been a priority as it was an almost even split. But Kilmer needed help.

Capacity at Kilmer can be resolved by sending existing Kilmer/Madison students to Thoreau. That is the only change needed to get them below 105%

Wolftrap/Marshall families’ dream of moving to Madison was put into peril when Westbriar/Madison families demanded to stay at Madison. If those students stay at Madison, they either need to move to Thoreau, which pushes the school above 105% or they will stay at Kilmer and it will remain a split feeder (something like 4%)

Marshall families will not be happy if the result of this exercise leaves them with more split feeders in their pyramid than what they started with (only Madison schools are being fixed and Shrevewood is turning into a split feeder) and an attendance island for Kilmer/Marshall.

Reid was asked multiple times "If the Westbriar families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Marshall remain at Madison, will the Wolftrap families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Madison still move to Madison?"

In each instance, she said yes. In at least one instance, she interrupted someone asking the question to say yes. She said she'd met with the principals of both Marshall (Litz) and Madison (Calvert) and the numbers still worked.

I don't see how they do a 180 turn without Reid forever losing credibility in the community. At a minimum, she ought to schedule an in-person meeting at Wolftrap, apologize profusely in person, and explain why they might have since concluded they need to leave Wolftrap a split feeder, whether it's to avoid overcrowding Thoreau, avoid driving up the FARMS rate at Marshall, avoid making the existing attendance island at Westbriar worse, etc.

And even then more will start pupil placing to Madison, because they've had Madison and AP dangled right in front of their faces by FCPS and Reid.

What is driving the love for Madison amongst Wolf Trap families? Is it AP in some cases providing more college credits or receiving an IB diploma takes more effort than just AP courses? Is it these families struggle with economic and ethnic diversity and would rather go to a less diverse or "more well off" school? Is it sports oriented families that recognize Madison as the stronger school from that perspective? As mentioned before, it is currently a fairly equal split between Marshall and Madison at Madison and the distance these neighborhoods are to Madison or Marshall are very similar / almost identical.

All of the above.

We have heard some of the families that spoke at the hearing two days ago for YEARS tell their kid he will play football at Madison, because that's the better football team (even tough they are zoned for Marshall.) Vienna people are kind of rabid about their sports.

We have heard the parents who didn't pay attention when they bought a house realize they want AP and not IB (though if they bothered they would realize IB has a lot of advantages and in FCPS is used just like AP - a la carte - with the added option of the diploma.)

And, sadly, they really don't like the brown people at Marshall. At the meeting I overheard one of the Wolftrap parents talk about how Marshall will go downhill so "we are better off sticking together". When the woman he was talking to asked what he was on about, he just wink-winked.

Why is it that we only ever hear about skin color from the social justice warriors? SJWs always equate going “downhill” and concepts like that with skin color and it’s super disgusting. They pretend that others are racist, but it’s really just an admission on their part. It’s part of their equity playbook

Sounds like a made-up story. Different people want to block these folks moving to Madison for their own reasons.

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Anonymous wrote:The split at wolftrap should not have been a priority as it was an almost even split. But Kilmer needed help.

Capacity at Kilmer can be resolved by sending existing Kilmer/Madison students to Thoreau. That is the only change needed to get them below 105%

Wolftrap/Marshall families’ dream of moving to Madison was put into peril when Westbriar/Madison families demanded to stay at Madison. If those students stay at Madison, they either

need to move to Thoreau, which pushes the school above 105% or they will stay at Kilmer and it will remain a split feeder (something like 4%)

Marshall families will not be happy if the result of this exercise leaves them with more split feeders in their pyramid than what they started with (only Madison schools are being fixed and Shrevewood is turning into a split feeder) and an attendance island for Kilmer/Marshall.

Reid was asked multiple times "If the Westbriar families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Marshall remain at Madison, will the Wolftrap families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Madison still move to Madison?"

In each instance, she said yes. In at least one instance, she interrupted someone asking the question to say yes. She said she'd met with the principals of both Marshall (Litz) and Madison (Calvert) and the numbers still worked.

I don't see how they do a 180 turn without Reid forever losing credibility in the community. At a minimum, she ought to schedule an in-person meeting at Wolftrap, apologize profusely in person, and explain why they might have since concluded they need to leave Wolftrap a split feeder, whether it's to avoid overcrowding Thoreau, avoid driving up the FARMS rate at Marshall, avoid making the existing attendance island at Westbriar worse, etc.

And even then more will start pupil placing to Madison, because they've had Madison and AP dangled right in front of their faces by FCPS and Reid.

Well good thing for her these meetings were not being recorded. Because the wolftrap students will have to be moved. I heard them say that too at the last meetings break out group. The fcps rep said that will be the only big change the westbriar/wolftrap switch

Who’s to say some parents weren’t recording and in any event Melanie Meren was there when Reid repeatedly told the Wolftrap families now at Marshall they’d still be moved to Madison. If they reverse this I’d expect Meren to excoriate Reid at a future School Board meeting and for this to be the beginning of the end of Reid’s tenure as superintendent. You can’t just show up, make false statements because you want to be everyone’s friend, and walk away unscathed.

Frankly I’m appalled she made the comments in the first place, whether she sticks to them or not. The window for community feedback has not yet closed so they haven’t reviewed feedback from the boundary tool or from pyramid BRAC members.

They’d been fairly consistent in saying they expected only minor changes to Scenario 4 going forward. If they start making significant changes to Scenario 4, people will say they were blindsided and demand another round of community meetings.

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Anonymous wrote:The split at wolftrap should not have been a priority as it was an almost even split. But Kilmer needed help.

Capacity at Kilmer can be resolved by sending existing Kilmer/Madison students to Thoreau. That is the only change needed to get them below 105%

Wolftrap/Marshall families’ dream of moving to Madison was put into peril when Westbriar/Madison families demanded to stay at Madison. If those students stay at Madison, they either need to move to Thoreau, which pushes the school above 105% or they will stay at Kilmer and it will remain a split feeder (something like 4%)

Marshall families will not be happy if the result of this exercise leaves them with more split feeders in their pyramid than what they started with (only Madison schools are being fixed and Shrevewood is turning into a split feeder) and an attendance island for Kilmer/Marshall.

Reid was asked multiple times "If the Westbriar families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Marshall remain at Madison, will the Wolftrap families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Madison still move to Madison?"

In each instance, she said yes. In at least one instance, she interrupted someone asking the question to say yes. She said she'd met with the principals of both Marshall (Litz) and Madison (Calvert) and the numbers still worked.

I don't see how they do a 180 turn without Reid forever losing credibility in the community. At a minimum, she ought to schedule an in-person meeting at Wolftrap, apologize profusely in person, and explain why they might have since concluded they need to leave Wolftrap a split feeder, whether it's to avoid overcrowding Thoreau, avoid driving up the FARMS rate at Marshall, avoid making the existing attendance island at Westbriar worse, etc.

And even then more will start pupil placing to Madison, because they've had Madison and AP dangled right in front of their faces by FCPS and Reid.

What is driving the love for Madison amongst Wolf Trap families? Is it AP in some cases providing more college credits or receiving an IB diploma takes more effort than just AP courses? Is it these families struggle with economic and ethnic diversity and would rather go to a less diverse or "more well off" school? Is it sports oriented families that recognize Madison as the stronger school from that perspective? As mentioned before, it is currently a fairly equal split between Marshall and Madison at Madison and the distance these neighborhoods are to Madison or Marshall are very similar / almost identical.

As a Wolftrap homeowner, I don't really care about if it is Madison or Marshall. I just want the whole school to move together, and don't want to change the community around Wolftrap. Most people I know consider Wolftrap to be their community (not either high school) and would like to see that remain consistent for their kids that spend 7 years of their school lives at this one school.

I believe all of Wolf Trap goes to Kilmer and then the split occurs or has that changed? Based on capacity issues at Kilmer it seems to make sense for the split to occur at middle school with the Wolf Trap families currently zoned for Marshall going to Kilmer and those zoned for Madison going to Thoreau. I imagine as students progress to high school they will see that and not the elementary school as their community during those years. The first months away from old friends at a new school may be challenging but I believe students are resilient and will make new friendships and don't have to leave old friends behind. Ultimately elementary schools will always be considered more the community as they are smaller, represent a longer period of time, and are generally closer to where people live. I think your word "want" hit it perfectly. This is a want not a need.

Well, I would agree with your assessment that it is a want and not a need, but it is a want based on the stated parameters of the policy driving this boundary review. One of the tenants of it was to fix split feeders. So, I think personally wanting our split feeder to be fixed in alignment with the goals is not an unreasonable or misplaced "want".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The split at wolftrap should not have been a priority as it was an almost even split. But Kilmer needed help.

Capacity at Kilmer can be resolved by sending existing Kilmer/Madison students to Thoreau. That is the only change needed to get them below 105%

Wolftrap/Marshall families’ dream of moving to Madison was put into peril when Westbriar/Madison families demanded to stay at Madison. If those students stay at Madison, they either need to move to Thoreau, which pushes the school above 105% or they will stay at Kilmer and it will remain a split feeder (something like 4%)

Marshall families will not be happy if the result of this exercise leaves them with more split feeders in their pyramid than what they started with (only Madison schools are being fixed and Shrevewood is turning into a split feeder) and an attendance island for Kilmer/Marshall.

Reid was asked multiple times "If the Westbriar families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Marshall remain at Madison, will the Wolftrap families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Madison still move to Madison?"

In each instance, she said yes. In at least one instance, she interrupted someone asking the question to say yes. She said she'd met with the principals of both Marshall (Litz) and Madison (Calvert) and the numbers still worked.

I don't see how they do a 180 turn without Reid forever losing credibility in the community. At a minimum, she ought to schedule an in-person meeting at Wolftrap, apologize profusely in person, and explain why they might have since concluded they need to leave Wolftrap a split feeder, whether it's to avoid overcrowding Thoreau, avoid driving up the FARMS rate at Marshall, avoid making the existing attendance island at Westbriar worse, etc.

And even then more will start pupil placing to Madison, because they've had Madison and AP dangled right in front of their faces by FCPS and Reid.

What is driving the love for Madison amongst Wolf Trap families? Is it AP in some cases providing more college credits or receiving an IB diploma takes more effort than just AP courses? Is it these families struggle with economic and ethnic diversity and would rather go to a less diverse or "more well off" school? Is it sports oriented families that recognize Madison as the stronger school from that perspective? As mentioned before, it is currently a fairly equal split between Marshall and Madison at Madison and the distance these neighborhoods are to Madison or Marshall are very similar / almost identical.

As a Wolftrap homeowner, I don't really care about if it is Madison or Marshall. I just want the whole school to move together, and don't want to change the community around Wolftrap. Most people I know consider Wolftrap to be their community (not either high school) and would like to see that remain consistent for their kids that spend 7 years of their school lives at this one school.

I believe all of Wolf Trap goes to Kilmer and then the split occurs or has that changed? Based on capacity issues at Kilmer it seems to make sense for the split to occur at middle school with the Wolf Trap families currently zoned for Marshall going to Kilmer and those zoned for Madison going to Thoreau. I imagine as students progress to high school they will see that and not the elementary school as their community during those years. The first months away from old friends at a new school may be challenging but I believe students are resilient and will make new friendships and don't have to leave old friends behind. Ultimately elementary schools will always be considered more the community as they are smaller, represent a longer period of time, and are generally closer to where people live. I think your word "want" hit it perfectly. This is a want not a need.

Well, I would agree with your assessment that it is a want and not a need, but it is a want based on the stated parameters of the policy driving this boundary review. One of the tenants of it was to fix split feeders. So, I think personally wanting our split feeder to be fixed in alignment with the goals is not an unreasonable or misplaced "want".

We live in the Wolftrap area and at least for our family our want is to maintain the split feeder and stay with Wolftrap / Kilmer / Marshall. We certainly may have had a different view if the split was very unbalanced but it is not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The split at wolftrap should not have been a priority as it was an almost even split. But Kilmer needed help.

Capacity at Kilmer can be resolved by sending existing Kilmer/Madison students to Thoreau. That is the only change needed to get them below 105%

Wolftrap/Marshall families’ dream of moving to Madison was put into peril when Westbriar/Madison families demanded to stay at Madison. If those students stay at Madison, they either

need to move to Thoreau, which pushes the school above 105% or they will stay at Kilmer and it will remain a split feeder (something like 4%)

Marshall families will not be happy if the result of this exercise leaves them with more split feeders in their pyramid than what they started with (only Madison schools are being fixed and Shrevewood is turning into a split feeder) and an attendance island for Kilmer/Marshall.

Reid was asked multiple times "If the Westbriar families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Marshall remain at Madison, will the Wolftrap families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Madison still move to Madison?"

In each instance, she said yes. In at least one instance, she interrupted someone asking the question to say yes. She said she'd met with the principals of both Marshall (Litz) and Madison (Calvert) and the numbers still worked.

I don't see how they do a 180 turn without Reid forever losing credibility in the community. At a minimum, she ought to schedule an in-person meeting at Wolftrap, apologize profusely in person, and explain why they might have since concluded they need to leave Wolftrap a split feeder, whether it's to avoid overcrowding Thoreau, avoid driving up the FARMS rate at Marshall, avoid making the existing attendance island at Westbriar worse, etc.

And even then more will start pupil placing to Madison, because they've had Madison and AP dangled right in front of their faces by FCPS and Reid.

Well good thing for her these meetings were not being recorded. Because the wolftrap students will have to be moved. I heard them say that too at the last meetings break out group. The fcps rep said that will be the only big change the westbriar/wolftrap switch

Who’s to say some parents weren’t recording and in any event Melanie Meren was there when Reid repeatedly told the Wolftrap families now at Marshall they’d still be moved to Madison. If they reverse this I’d expect Meren to excoriate Reid at a future School Board meeting and for this to be the beginning of the end of Reid’s tenure as superintendent. You can’t just show up, make false statements because you want to be everyone’s friend, and walk away unscathed.

I recorded an earlier meeting.

A fcps employee came over and told me it wasn't allowed. I pointed out that it was a public meeting, and she said no, rezoning meetings can't be recorded.

I have that entire discussion on video.

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The split exists at so many schools. Why is one school prioritized over others? They told us it was because having less than 25% split was a problem. Wolftrap had 60:40. Marshall road splits between Oakton and Madison, Thoreau is a 3 way split with 5%going to Marshall. What is wrong with these people in charge. Leave the original boundaries and switch only where the a need for relief. This is not a comprehensive boundary review as it is only catering to the vocal people.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone posted earlier that Reid said that the scenarios had not be "vetted." Does she mean that staff never looked at them to check for known issues?

What do these people get paid to do?

Hard to believe that Reid (who did not know about issues in Rt 1 corridor) is weighing in on boundaries and answering? questions.

She was talking about the 4 maps they posted for the Western High School.

Who created the maps? Staff or THRU?

And why are they showing maps to the public and getting no people all upset if they are not vetted? I swear she just says things to get people to calm down in the moment. As soon as someone is freaking out about a change she’s all “don’t worry that’s just a super drafty draft” regardless of whether that’s true. The school board must be beyond frustrated with her because then they have to clean up her mess. She is just telling everyone what they want to hear while they’re in front of her. I wouldn’t trust anything she says at this point.

Why are they doing 7 revidions to the county wide rezoning maps, based on who complains the most on the previous map?

More like who has the biggest tantrum. Some of these grown adults should be ashamed of themselves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Someone posted earlier that Reid said that the scenarios had not be "vetted." Does she mean that staff never looked at them to check for known issues?

What do these people get paid to do?

Hard to believe that Reid (who did not know about issues in Rt 1 corridor) is weighing in on boundaries and answering? questions.

She was talking about the 4 maps they posted for the Western High School.

Who created the maps? Staff or THRU?

And why are they showing maps to the public and getting no people all upset if they are not vetted? I swear she just says things to get people to calm down in the moment. As soon as someone is freaking out about a change she’s all “don’t worry that’s just a super drafty draft” regardless of whether that’s true. The school board must be beyond frustrated with her because then they have to clean up her mess. She is just telling everyone what they want to hear while they’re in front of her. I wouldn’t trust anything she says at this point.

Why are they doing 7 revidions to the county wide rezoning maps, based on who complains the most on the previous map?

More like who has the biggest tantrum. Some of these grown adults should be ashamed of themselves.

I’m at the point where I am disgusted with this entire process. They left way too much time for community input… too many cooks in the kitchen and people want opposite things. Someone will be mad no matter what. And the way they’ve gone about it just ensures the pushiest people get their way. They could not have screwed this all up more even if they tried.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Someone posted earlier that Reid said that the scenarios had not be "vetted." Does she mean that staff never looked at them to check for known issues?

What do these people get paid to do?

Hard to believe that Reid (who did not know about issues in Rt 1 corridor) is weighing in on boundaries and answering? questions.

She was talking about the 4 maps they posted for the Western High School.

Who created the maps? Staff or THRU?

And why are they showing maps to the public and getting no people all upset if they are not vetted? I swear she just says things to get people to calm down in the moment. As soon as someone is freaking out about a change she’s all “don’t worry that’s just a super drafty draft” regardless of whether that’s true. The school board must be beyond frustrated with her because then they have to clean up her mess. She is just telling everyone what they want to hear while they’re in front of her. I wouldn’t trust anything she says at this point.

Why are they doing 7 revidions to the county wide rezoning maps, based on who complains the most on the previous map?

More like who has the biggest tantrum. Some of these grown adults should be ashamed of themselves.

I’m at the point where I am disgusted with this entire process. They left way too much time for community input… too many cooks in the kitchen and people want opposite things. Someone will be mad no matter what. And the way they’ve gone about it just ensures the pushiest people get their way. They could not have screwed this all up more even if they tried.

I knew this would be a mess--as I had been through an area boundary study before. Neighborhood against neighborhood. However, once they decided to do it, they should have studied it a lot more.

Just from my own neighborhood, they clearly had no idea of what the meaning of a neighborhood is. For example, when an elementary school is mostly walkers, most people would anticipate that they would all be assigned to the same high school. Not so with THRU.

I can only assumed that these types of mistakes were made throughout Fairfax County.

A better way, would have been to start the process with community involvement and discussion prior to the lines being drawn. Would it have been a good result? I don't know, but this sure hasn't worked.

And, to continue on with this when they purchased a new high school is unfathomable. What a great excuse that would have been to delay the comprehensive boundary study until after they resolved the Western High School. I expected they would do that.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone posted earlier that Reid said that the scenarios had not be "vetted." Does she mean that staff never looked at them to check for known issues?

What do these people get paid to do?

Hard to believe that Reid (who did not know about issues in Rt 1 corridor) is weighing in on boundaries and answering? questions.

She was talking about the 4 maps they posted for the Western High School.

Who created the maps? Staff or THRU?

And why are they showing maps to the public and getting no people all upset if they are not vetted? I swear she just says things to get people to calm down in the moment. As soon as someone is freaking out about a change she’s all “don’t worry that’s just a super drafty draft” regardless of whether that’s true. The school board must be beyond frustrated with her because then they have to clean up her mess. She is just telling everyone what they want to hear while they’re in front of her. I wouldn’t trust anything she says at this point.

Why are they doing 7 revidions to the county wide rezoning maps, based on who complains the most on the previous map?

More like who has the biggest tantrum. Some of these grown adults should be ashamed of themselves.

I’m at the point where I am disgusted with this entire process. They left way too much time for community input… too many cooks in the kitchen and people want opposite things. Someone will be mad no matter what. And the way they’ve gone about it just ensures the pushiest people get their way. They could not have screwed this all up more even if they tried.

Poor baby, you didn’t get to ruin more kids’ lives. I’m so sorry that they provided some time for constituents to be heard.

You’re disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The split exists at so many schools. Why is one school prioritized over others? They told us it was because having less than 25% split was a problem. Wolftrap had 60:40. Marshall road splits between Oakton and Madison, Thoreau is a 3 way split with 5%going to Marshall. What is wrong with these people in charge. Leave the original boundaries and switch only where the a need for relief. This is not a comprehensive boundary review as it is only catering to the vocal people.

Kilmer is the most overcrowded MS in the county and you ignored this.

The Scenario 4 proposal to move the rest of Wolftrap to Madison and all to Thoreau wasn’t born of some desire to cater to Wolftrap families. It started with the need to bring down the enrollment at Kilmer with the elimination of the split feeder and making use of the hundreds of extra seats at Madison following its expansion a bonus.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone posted earlier that Reid said that the scenarios had not be "vetted." Does she mean that staff never looked at them to check for known issues?

What do these people get paid to do?

Hard to believe that Reid (who did not know about issues in Rt 1 corridor) is weighing in on boundaries and answering? questions.

She was talking about the 4 maps they posted for the Western High School.

Who created the maps? Staff or THRU?

And why are they showing maps to the public and getting no people all upset if they are not vetted? I swear she just says things to get people to calm down in the moment. As soon as someone is freaking out about a change she’s all “don’t worry that’s just a super drafty draft” regardless of whether that’s true. The school board must be beyond frustrated with her because then they have to clean up her mess. She is just telling everyone what they want to hear while they’re in front of her. I wouldn’t trust anything she says at this point.

Why are they doing 7 revidions to the county wide rezoning maps, based on who complains the most on the previous map?

More like who has the biggest tantrum. Some of these grown adults should be ashamed of themselves.

I’m at the point where I am disgusted with this entire process. They left way too much time for community input… too many cooks in the kitchen and people want opposite things. Someone will be mad no matter what. And the way they’ve gone about it just ensures the pushiest people get their way. They could not have screwed this all up more even if they tried.

Poor baby, you didn’t get to ruin more kids’ lives. I’m so sorry that they provided some time for constituents to be heard.

You’re disgusting.

Oh shut up idiot. You have no idea who you're talking to. We are caught up in one of the biggest messes with this. At some point it gets exhausting dealing with this months-long drawn out process with changes going back and forth and drama queens throwing tantrums and calling it "advocacy". Just tell me where my kids are going to school so we can look at the bright side and adjust. No one's lives are being ruined. You are a terrible example for your children using that language. They are going to crumble when faced with real setbacks in adulthood.

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Anonymous wrote:The split exists at so many schools. Why is one school prioritized over others? They told us it was because having less than 25% split was a problem. Wolftrap had 60:40. Marshall road splits between Oakton and Madison, Thoreau is a 3 way split with 5%going to Marshall. What is wrong with these people in charge. Leave the original boundaries and switch only where the a need for relief. This is not a comprehensive boundary review as it is only catering to the vocal people.

Kilmer is the most overcrowded MS in the county and you ignored this.

The Scenario 4 proposal to move the rest of Wolftrap to Madison and all to Thoreau wasn’t born of some desire to cater to Wolftrap families. It started with the need to bring down the enrollment at Kilmer with the elimination of the split feeder and making use of the hundreds of extra seats at Madison following its expansion a bonus.

Kilmer MS
Design Capacity: 1152
Design Capacity with Modular: 1422
Program Capacity: 791
Program Capacity with Modular: 1023
Trailers: 4/Modular Classrooms: 10
Program Capacity (2023-24): 1227

Thoreau MS
Design Capacity: 1395
Program Capacity: 1379
Trailers: 0/Modular: 0

What I’m seeing is that Kilmer could use some reduction to phase out trailers, but that Thoreau is on the cusp of needing modulars and trailers, so some caution should be taken while balancing numbers.

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Anonymous wrote:The split exists at so many schools. Why is one school prioritized over others? They told us it was because having less than 25% split was a problem. Wolftrap had 60:40. Marshall road splits between Oakton and Madison, Thoreau is a 3 way split with 5%going to Marshall. What is wrong with these people in charge. Leave the original boundaries and switch only where the a need for relief. This is not a comprehensive boundary review as it is only catering to the vocal people.

Kilmer is the most overcrowded MS in the county and you ignored this.

The Scenario 4 proposal to move the rest of Wolftrap to Madison and all to Thoreau wasn’t born of some desire to cater to Wolftrap families. It started with the need to bring down the enrollment at Kilmer with the elimination of the split feeder and making use of the hundreds of extra seats at Madison following its expansion a bonus.

Kilmer MS
Design Capacity: 1152
Design Capacity with Modular: 1422
Program Capacity: 791
Program Capacity with Modular: 1023
Trailers: 4/Modular Classrooms: 10
Program Capacity (2023-24): 1227

Thoreau MS
Design Capacity: 1395
Program Capacity: 1379
Trailers: 0/Modular: 0

What I’m seeing is that Kilmer could use some reduction to phase out trailers, but that Thoreau is on the cusp of needing modulars and trailers, so some caution should be taken while balancing numbers.

To add, September enrollment numbers have Kilmer at 1174 and Thoreau at 1281.