Single Issue Voter: Controlling The Borders

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Anonymous wrote:So what’s the plan to “secure” it. Who has this grand plan?

Biden put forward a plan requesting billions to secure the border, hire 1300 more border patrol agents, and to deal with the massive backlog of asylum claims so that we can send back the 80% who don't qualify. That was voted on in Congress. All but 2 Republicans voted AGAINST it.

The Republicans don't have a plan. Their only plan is to obstruct Democrats no matter what they try to do, even if that means hiring more border patrol agents to secure the border.

Why? Brooklyn Dad asks..... Perhaps he should do a little homework to find out why.

What else was in that funding request that came from Biden? It's more about intake, processing, and housing them than actual border security.


$1.4 billion in grants to local governments and nonprofit organizations for temporary food, shelter, and other services for recently arrived migrants.

Equipping Southwest border ports of entry with new technology, including non-intrusive inspection equipment to detect drugs, like fentanyl and other illegal substances, as well as the smuggling of humans through checkpoints.

An additional 300 Border Patrol processing coordinators to work alongside Border Patrol agents assisting with the intake of undocumented migrants.

An additional 1,600 U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services asylum officers to help hear asylum claims and expedite removals from the United States. And 30 new USCIS officers to process work-authorization requests from migrants.

Additional Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detention facilities to hold asylum-seekers.

Funds to transport migrants, including an increase in removal and deportation flights.
Providing non-custodial housing options for asylum-seekers, like community-based residential housing facilities with medical and legal facilities.

An additional 1,470 lawyers and support staff to assist 375 new immigration judge teams to process immigration cases. There are currently 2.6 million backlogged immigration cases — the most ever, according to Syracuse University’s Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse.

https://www.borderreport.com/regions/washington-d-c/heres-how-biden-wants-to-spend-13-6-billion-from-congress-on-the-border/

Policy changes are what is needed. More money and more agents will just ensure that more migrants can be processed and transported once they enter illegally.

We need both, but republicans are doing nothing.
If you want solutions, elect moderate democrats.

Moderate democrats like Biden? How’s that working out for America?

Great. He’s been a great president.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what’s the plan to “secure” it. Who has this grand plan?

Biden put forward a plan requesting billions to secure the border, hire 1300 more border patrol agents, and to deal with the massive backlog of asylum claims so that we can send back the 80% who don't qualify. That was voted on in Congress. All but 2 Republicans voted AGAINST it.

The Republicans don't have a plan. Their only plan is to obstruct Democrats no matter what they try to do, even if that means hiring more border patrol agents to secure the border.

Why? Brooklyn Dad asks..... Perhaps he should do a little homework to find out why.

What else was in that funding request that came from Biden? It's more about intake, processing, and housing them than actual border security.


$1.4 billion in grants to local governments and nonprofit organizations for temporary food, shelter, and other services for recently arrived migrants.

Equipping Southwest border ports of entry with new technology, including non-intrusive inspection equipment to detect drugs, like fentanyl and other illegal substances, as well as the smuggling of humans through checkpoints.

An additional 300 Border Patrol processing coordinators to work alongside Border Patrol agents assisting with the intake of undocumented migrants.

An additional 1,600 U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services asylum officers to help hear asylum claims and expedite removals from the United States. And 30 new USCIS officers to process work-authorization requests from migrants.

Additional Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detention facilities to hold asylum-seekers.

Funds to transport migrants, including an increase in removal and deportation flights.
Providing non-custodial housing options for asylum-seekers, like community-based residential housing facilities with medical and legal facilities.

An additional 1,470 lawyers and support staff to assist 375 new immigration judge teams to process immigration cases. There are currently 2.6 million backlogged immigration cases — the most ever, according to Syracuse University’s Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse.

https://www.borderreport.com/regions/washington-d-c/heres-how-biden-wants-to-spend-13-6-billion-from-congress-on-the-border/

Policy changes are what is needed. More money and more agents will just ensure that more migrants can be processed and transported once they enter illegally.

We need both, but republicans are doing nothing.
If you want solutions, elect moderate democrats.

Moderate democrats like Biden? How’s that working out for America?

It's working out great for the migrants. It's all part of Biden's master plan.

[Anonymous]

Debate for/against Secure the Borders Act- HB 2

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what’s the plan to “secure” it. Who has this grand plan?

Biden put forward a plan requesting billions to secure the border, hire 1300 more border patrol agents, and to deal with the massive backlog of asylum claims so that we can send back the 80% who don't qualify. That was voted on in Congress. All but 2 Republicans voted AGAINST it.

The Republicans don't have a plan. Their only plan is to obstruct Democrats no matter what they try to do, even if that means hiring more border patrol agents to secure the border.

Why? Brooklyn Dad asks..... Perhaps he should do a little homework to find out why.

What else was in that funding request that came from Biden? It's more about intake, processing, and housing them than actual border security.


$1.4 billion in grants to local governments and nonprofit organizations for temporary food, shelter, and other services for recently arrived migrants.

Equipping Southwest border ports of entry with new technology, including non-intrusive inspection equipment to detect drugs, like fentanyl and other illegal substances, as well as the smuggling of humans through checkpoints.

An additional 300 Border Patrol processing coordinators to work alongside Border Patrol agents assisting with the intake of undocumented migrants.

An additional 1,600 U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services asylum officers to help hear asylum claims and expedite removals from the United States. And 30 new USCIS officers to process work-authorization requests from migrants.

Additional Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detention facilities to hold asylum-seekers.

Funds to transport migrants, including an increase in removal and deportation flights.
Providing non-custodial housing options for asylum-seekers, like community-based residential housing facilities with medical and legal facilities.

An additional 1,470 lawyers and support staff to assist 375 new immigration judge teams to process immigration cases. There are currently 2.6 million backlogged immigration cases — the most ever, according to Syracuse University’s Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse.

https://www.borderreport.com/regions/washington-d-c/heres-how-biden-wants-to-spend-13-6-billion-from-congress-on-the-border/

Policy changes are what is needed. More money and more agents will just ensure that more migrants can be processed and transported once they enter illegally.

We need both, but republicans are doing nothing.
If you want solutions, elect moderate democrats.

Moderate democrats like Biden? How’s that working out for America?

It's working out great for the migrants. It's all part of Biden's master plan.

It's working great for the illegal migrants. Not the legal ones.

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Now I know Black don’t crack, but that man is 30 years of age, if not more. As an unaccompanied minor sent to DC, that man would be placed under CFSA charge and placed in a foster home. Goodness gracious, I cannot believe how utterly crazy the US has become in regards to immigration.

+1
This entire crisis has now entered the realm of farce.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The big difference in illegal vs. legal is a total lack of desire to assimilate and we aren’t controlling for the ability of essential services to even keep up a tiny bit. Public schools, ERs, transit, housing etc are going to be crushed with the influx. The sad thing is people who did it the right way now wait longer as a result AND unless we mass deport illegal immigrants we simply won’t have room for legal migrants with the drain on essential services we already have. Instead of people with high merit who enrich our country, it’s a free for all. No serious country can survive this if it continues like this.

Unfortunately Democratic voters are unable to anticipate the consequences until it personally affects them. And then they want to move someplace else and leave their home in ruins.

+1000

[Anonymous]

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Yep. This is why illegal immigration had started to wane drastically under Trump - because he made it so unpleasant for them once here. Unfortunately, he was correct to do so. That seems to be the only thing that works.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So what’s the plan to “secure” it. Who has this grand plan?

Biden put forward a plan requesting billions to secure the border, hire 1300 more border patrol agents, and to deal with the massive backlog of asylum claims so that we can send back the 80% who don't qualify. That was voted on in Congress. All but 2 Republicans voted AGAINST it.

The Republicans don't have a plan. Their only plan is to obstruct Democrats no matter what they try to do, even if that means hiring more border patrol agents to secure the border.

DP. So interesting that you left out what's REALLY been happening recently and who is REALLY obstructing border reform. It's been repeated over and over on this thread, as you know.

"A group of Senate Republicans have released their proposal to overhaul border policies from security to parole and asylum changes.

The group, made up of Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Tom Cotton (R-Okla.) and James Lankford (R-Okla.), has been meeting for weeks to try and put forth a border proposal with significant policy changes, not just additional funding for Border Patrol.

Border security: The proposal would bring back construction of the border wall and boost retention for Border Patrol agents, including changes to overtime benefits. It would also reimplement DNA testing at the border.

Asylum changes: This plan would make migrants ineligible for asylum if they transited through another country before showing up at the U.S. border, implementing what is called a “safe third country” rule. It would raise the bar of “credible fear” for asylum seekers from “significant possibility” to “more likely than not” in their home country. Migrants would be required to request asylum at a port of entry.

Parole changes: Parole would be limited to one year with the possibility of a one-year extension and would bar the Department of Homeland Security from “using class-based criteria to grant humanitarian parole.” It would codify the Cuban Family Reunification Program and spousal and children reunification for active duty military service members.

Authority similar to Title 42: This proposal would allow the broad suspension of entry for certain types of migrants, referred to as “inadmissible aliens,” if DHS decides it is necessary to “achieve operational control.” This authority is similar to Title 42, which allowed the U.S. to quickly turn back migrants at the U.S.-Mexico border for public health reasons during the Covid-19 pandemic.

The policy would also revive the controversial “remain in Mexico” policy that keeps asylum seekers outside the United States while their cases are processed. Many Democrats have said that if the border measures include that policy then they won’t accept the measures."

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2023/11...r-proposals-00125583

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How about we just start deporting, implement 'remain in mexico' and mandate e-verify for all.

Trump didn't do a whole lot but explicitly send a message that illegal immigration would not be tolerated.

Unfortunately, Biden sent the opposite message.

This is exactly what Republicans have proposed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans: DO SOMETHING

Biden does something

Republicans: NOT THAT!

Admit it: Republicans have never been interested in actually fixing anything.

He has done NOTHING to secure the border. NOTHING!

He has apprehended more than anyone else.
He has deported more than anyone else.
He has recovered more smuggled drugs than anyone else.

He has asked for money for administrative judges, for drones, for more hiring of agents etc and the GOP has said "no"

Just stop with the "oPeN boRDerS" nonsense.

Every single Democrat Presidential candidate voted for open borders on stage for the entire world to see.

Both Biden and Obama requested additional funds for border patrol agents and the border. That is a well-documented, proven fact.

You are here lying for the entire world to see.

Biden's request came with a $hitload of other stuff... mostly money for processing and transporting migrants.
There is NO WAY IN HELL that will fly.
As Henry Cuellar said....... "The president has the authority to secure the border right now without any changes to the law."
And, he doesn't need more money to do it. Hiring more agents, training them and getting them on board will take months. The border needs attention IMMEDIATELY.

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And this is the point Republicans are making. We don't need billions MORE thrown at the border, especially if used simply to "process" migrants into the country. We need actual changes in legislation that make it clear asylum standards must be MUCH higher - among other reforms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what’s the plan to “secure” it. Who has this grand plan?

Biden put forward a plan requesting billions to secure the border, hire 1300 more border patrol agents, and to deal with the massive backlog of asylum claims so that we can send back the 80% who don't qualify. That was voted on in Congress. All but 2 Republicans voted AGAINST it.

The Republicans don't have a plan. Their only plan is to obstruct Democrats no matter what they try to do, even if that means hiring more border patrol agents to secure the border.

Why? Brooklyn Dad asks..... Perhaps he should do a little homework to find out why.

What else was in that funding request that came from Biden? It's more about intake, processing, and housing them than actual border security.


$1.4 billion in grants to local governments and nonprofit organizations for temporary food, shelter, and other services for recently arrived migrants.

Equipping Southwest border ports of entry with new technology, including non-intrusive inspection equipment to detect drugs, like fentanyl and other illegal substances, as well as the smuggling of humans through checkpoints.

An additional 300 Border Patrol processing coordinators to work alongside Border Patrol agents assisting with the intake of undocumented migrants.

An additional 1,600 U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services asylum officers to help hear asylum claims and expedite removals from the United States. And 30 new USCIS officers to process work-authorization requests from migrants.

Additional Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detention facilities to hold asylum-seekers.

Funds to transport migrants, including an increase in removal and deportation flights.
Providing non-custodial housing options for asylum-seekers, like community-based residential housing facilities with medical and legal facilities.

An additional 1,470 lawyers and support staff to assist 375 new immigration judge teams to process immigration cases. There are currently 2.6 million backlogged immigration cases — the most ever, according to Syracuse University’s Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse.

https://www.borderreport.com/regions/washington-d-c/heres-how-biden-wants-to-spend-13-6-billion-from-congress-on-the-border/

Policy changes are what is needed. More money and more agents will just ensure that more migrants can be processed and transported once they enter illegally.

We need both, but republicans are doing nothing.
If you want solutions, elect moderate democrats.

DP. You know who's doing nothing? These Democrats. In fact, they are obstructing any progress toward securing our border. Do continue to ignore those facts, though.

In a statement Wednesday, a group of 11 Democratic senators led by California’s Alex Padilla slammed the potential for “harmful changes to our asylum system that will potentially deny lifesaving humanitarian protection for vulnerable people, including children, and fail to deliver any meaningful improvement to the situation at the border.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/29/left-border-backlash-00129022

“I’m an absolute no on any bill that’s going to change asylum status, or remove parole,” said Rep. Delia Ramirez (D-Ill.). “We shouldn’t be scapegoating immigrant lives over our supplemental.”

Hispanic and progressive lawmakers lined up Wednesday to denounce the White House’s reported concessions in the talks. Barragán said they’d “hold the line” against changes: “We are urging the Biden administration to say no — to not take the bait.”

Even Democrats from battleground districts, like Rep. Gabe Vasquez of New Mexico, sounded a note of alarm.

“They’re going to be in for a rude awakening if they think that we’re just going to go with what the administration negotiates,” Vasquez said.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/13/bide...-opposition-00131617

[Anonymous]

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Precisely this. Change the laws and stop throwing away money intended to make it *easier* to admit illegal immigrants.

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Dems are the global experts at spending money not to solve problems but to make them worse.

There must be some Harvard advanced degree or something.

[Anonymous]

If you increase staff to process them faster, you get rid of the ineligible ones faster. This seems lost on the republicans on this thread.

[Anonymous]

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Yep. This is why illegal immigration had started to wane drastically under Trump - because he made it so unpleasant for them once here. Unfortunately, he was correct to do so. That seems to be the only thing that works.

Letting a deadly virus spread out of control while collapsing the economy did make it pretty unpleasant for immigrants. Unfortunately it made it unpleasant for the rest of us too.