Biden's VP?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I stand by my assertion, he knows who it is, the waiting it out is strategy. The date was to satisfy inpatient people.

Waiting may give his supporters anxiety, but it works very well for him politically. Right now, the story in the news is Trump's complete failure with the economy, the pandemic response, his legal woes, and his imbecilic tweets. Trump does best when he has a target to ridicule and insult. Right now, his only target is Biden and frankly after his long career, there is nothing really new that Trump can come up with that hasn't already been thrown at Biden. Biden at this point is pretty much teflon to everyone who is sick of Trump, much like Trump is to his base. So, it makes Trump impotent, which is only good for Biden. Right now Trump is his own worst enemy.

If Biden announces his VP pick, he gives Trump something to target with his sophomoric insults. It allow him to redirect the narrative away from his political and management failures and his legal problems. Biden can sit on his pick until September or October and it will take a lot of the wind out of Trump's sails. He will have so many things to focus on last minute as they hit the last few weeks of the campaign trail, the few debates that Biden will commit to and it will concentrate the election down to the keys. The VP pick will not be a major issue in the last 8 weeks that it would be 12-14 weeks out (now). The longer Biden waits, the more he sets the pandemic and the economy as the keystones of the election.

Exactly. There's really know need to know the VP right now. So we can have more time to tear her apart? Because really that's all that will happen. Look at this forum that's full of supporters, every single person that has been mentioned has been ripped to shreds, now maginify that 100 x by the GOP mudslinging campaign. The less time spent in the dirt actually works in our favor. People are so addicted to the drama they can't see it. He should announce late August or early September.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I stand by my assertion, he knows who it is, the waiting it out is strategy. The date was to satisfy inpatient people.

Waiting may give his supporters anxiety, but it works very well for him politically. Right now, the story in the news is Trump's complete failure with the economy, the pandemic response, his legal woes, and his imbecilic tweets. Trump does best when he has a target to ridicule and insult. Right now, his only target is Biden and frankly after his long career, there is nothing really new that Trump can come up with that hasn't already been thrown at Biden. Biden at this point is pretty much teflon to everyone who is sick of Trump, much like Trump is to his base. So, it makes Trump impotent, which is only good for Biden. Right now Trump is his own worst enemy.

If Biden announces his VP pick, he gives Trump something to target with his sophomoric insults. It allow him to redirect the narrative away from his political and management failures and his legal problems. Biden can sit on his pick until September or October and it will take a lot of the wind out of Trump's sails. He will have so many things to focus on last minute as they hit the last few weeks of the campaign trail, the few debates that Biden will commit to and it will concentrate the election down to the keys. The VP pick will not be a major issue in the last 8 weeks that it would be 12-14 weeks out (now). The longer Biden waits, the more he sets the pandemic and the economy as the keystones of the election.

Exactly. There's really know need to know the VP right now. So we can have more time to tear her apart? Because really that's all that will happen. Look at this forum that's full of supporters, every single person that has been mentioned has been ripped to shreds, now maginify that 100 x by the GOP mudslinging campaign. The less time spent in the dirt actually works in our favor. People are so addicted to the drama they can't see it. He should announce late August or early September.

Disagree. Biden set an August 1 deadline. If he lets it slip too much, he comes off as indecisive and irritates the 10 women he did not pick by dragging it out. Plus, a delay reinforces the "Sleepy Joe" moniker. He also should announce already so she can go out and raise a bunch of new money. I believe Trump has a huge cash advantage.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I stand by my assertion, he knows who it is, the waiting it out is strategy. The date was to satisfy inpatient people.

Waiting may give his supporters anxiety, but it works very well for him politically. Right now, the story in the news is Trump's complete failure with the economy, the pandemic response, his legal woes, and his imbecilic tweets. Trump does best when he has a target to ridicule and insult. Right now, his only target is Biden and frankly after his long career, there is nothing really new that Trump can come up with that hasn't already been thrown at Biden. Biden at this point is pretty much teflon to everyone who is sick of Trump, much like Trump is to his base. So, it makes Trump impotent, which is only good for Biden. Right now Trump is his own worst enemy.

If Biden announces his VP pick, he gives Trump something to target with his sophomoric insults. It allow him to redirect the narrative away from his political and management failures and his legal problems. Biden can sit on his pick until September or October and it will take a lot of the wind out of Trump's sails. He will have so many things to focus on last minute as they hit the last few weeks of the campaign trail, the few debates that Biden will commit to and it will concentrate the election down to the keys. The VP pick will not be a major issue in the last 8 weeks that it would be 12-14 weeks out (now). The longer Biden waits, the more he sets the pandemic and the economy as the keystones of the election.

Exactly. There's really know need to know the VP right now. So we can have more time to tear her apart? Because really that's all that will happen. Look at this forum that's full of supporters, every single person that has been mentioned has been ripped to shreds, now maginify that 100 x by the GOP mudslinging campaign. The less time spent in the dirt actually works in our favor. People are so addicted to the drama they can't see it. He should announce late August or early September.

Disagree. Biden set an August 1 deadline. If he lets it slip too much, he comes off as indecisive and irritates the 10 women he did not pick by dragging it out. Plus, a delay reinforces the "Sleepy Joe" moniker. He also should announce already so she can go out and raise a bunch of new money. I believe Trump has a huge cash advantage.

We aren't worried. I can see you are worried about your man Trump which is why you are here with your faux concern attempting to stir up doubt. We're locked int. We're ready to take America back and make it great again, while you cry into your little red hat.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly believe Trump would feign a health complication and drop out if Joe added Michelle Obama to his ticket. He'd know he'd be creamed in November.

I also think Whitmer is tough because attacking her makes him and GOP look like a bully attacking a "mom". Where as attacking Warren, Harris, Abrams actually plays well with his base.

Warren and Harris are both moms.

Harris does not have children. She is a step-parent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I stand by my assertion, he knows who it is, the waiting it out is strategy. The date was to satisfy inpatient people.

Waiting may give his supporters anxiety, but it works very well for him politically. Right now, the story in the news is Trump's complete failure with the economy, the pandemic response, his legal woes, and his imbecilic tweets. Trump does best when he has a target to ridicule and insult. Right now, his only target is Biden and frankly after his long career, there is nothing really new that Trump can come up with that hasn't already been thrown at Biden. Biden at this point is pretty much teflon to everyone who is sick of Trump, much like Trump is to his base. So, it makes Trump impotent, which is only good for Biden. Right now Trump is his own worst enemy.

If Biden announces his VP pick, he gives Trump something to target with his sophomoric insults. It allow him to redirect the narrative away from his political and management failures and his legal problems. Biden can sit on his pick until September or October and it will take a lot of the wind out of Trump's sails. He will have so many things to focus on last minute as they hit the last few weeks of the campaign trail, the few debates that Biden will commit to and it will concentrate the election down to the keys. The VP pick will not be a major issue in the last 8 weeks that it would be 12-14 weeks out (now). The longer Biden waits, the more he sets the pandemic and the economy as the keystones of the election.

Exactly. There's really know need to know the VP right now. So we can have more time to tear her apart? Because really that's all that will happen. Look at this forum that's full of supporters, every single person that has been mentioned has been ripped to shreds, now maginify that 100 x by the GOP mudslinging campaign. The less time spent in the dirt actually works in our favor. People are so addicted to the drama they can't see it. He should announce late August or early September.

Disagree. Biden set an August 1 deadline. If he lets it slip too much, he comes off as indecisive and irritates the 10 women he did not pick by dragging it out. Plus, a delay reinforces the "Sleepy Joe" moniker. He also should announce already so she can go out and raise a bunch of new money. I believe Trump has a huge cash advantage.

We aren't worried. I can see you are worried about your man Trump which is why you are here with your faux concern attempting to stir up doubt. We're locked int. We're ready to take America back and make it great again, while you cry into your little red hat.

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So long as they can get the ballots printed up in time, I don’t really care how long they wait.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I stand by my assertion, he knows who it is, the waiting it out is strategy. The date was to satisfy inpatient people.

Waiting may give his supporters anxiety, but it works very well for him politically. Right now, the story in the news is Trump's complete failure with the economy, the pandemic response, his legal woes, and his imbecilic tweets. Trump does best when he has a target to ridicule and insult. Right now, his only target is Biden and frankly after his long career, there is nothing really new that Trump can come up with that hasn't already been thrown at Biden. Biden at this point is pretty much teflon to everyone who is sick of Trump, much like Trump is to his base. So, it makes Trump impotent, which is only good for Biden. Right now Trump is his own worst enemy.

If Biden announces his VP pick, he gives Trump something to target with his sophomoric insults. It allow him to redirect the narrative away from his political and management failures and his legal problems. Biden can sit on his pick until September or October and it will take a lot of the wind out of Trump's sails. He will have so many things to focus on last minute as they hit the last few weeks of the campaign trail, the few debates that Biden will commit to and it will concentrate the election down to the keys. The VP pick will not be a major issue in the last 8 weeks that it would be 12-14 weeks out (now). The longer Biden waits, the more he sets the pandemic and the economy as the keystones of the election.

The VP needs to formally win the nomination at the Dem convention. Further, early voting begins in some states as early as late September. Ballots need to be designed and printed. So there’s no way Biden can just sit on his VP pick until the last minute.

How long does it take to print a ballot?

Not terribly long (I’m guessing), but we know that DeJoy is (criminally) slowing the mail, and many states don’t count ballots received after Election Day. Hence the worry about ballot printing, in order to let as many people as possible get their ballots back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I stand by my assertion, he knows who it is, the waiting it out is strategy. The date was to satisfy inpatient people.

Waiting may give his supporters anxiety, but it works very well for him politically. Right now, the story in the news is Trump's complete failure with the economy, the pandemic response, his legal woes, and his imbecilic tweets. Trump does best when he has a target to ridicule and insult. Right now, his only target is Biden and frankly after his long career, there is nothing really new that Trump can come up with that hasn't already been thrown at Biden. Biden at this point is pretty much teflon to everyone who is sick of Trump, much like Trump is to his base. So, it makes Trump impotent, which is only good for Biden. Right now Trump is his own worst enemy.

If Biden announces his VP pick, he gives Trump something to target with his sophomoric insults. It allow him to redirect the narrative away from his political and management failures and his legal problems. Biden can sit on his pick until September or October and it will take a lot of the wind out of Trump's sails. He will have so many things to focus on last minute as they hit the last few weeks of the campaign trail, the few debates that Biden will commit to and it will concentrate the election down to the keys. The VP pick will not be a major issue in the last 8 weeks that it would be 12-14 weeks out (now). The longer Biden waits, the more he sets the pandemic and the economy as the keystones of the election.

Exactly. There's really know need to know the VP right now. So we can have more time to tear her apart? Because really that's all that will happen. Look at this forum that's full of supporters, every single person that has been mentioned has been ripped to shreds, now maginify that 100 x by the GOP mudslinging campaign. The less time spent in the dirt actually works in our favor. People are so addicted to the drama they can't see it. He should announce late August or early September.

Disagree. Biden set an August 1 deadline. If he lets it slip too much, he comes off as indecisive and irritates the 10 women he did not pick by dragging it out. Plus, a delay reinforces the "Sleepy Joe" moniker. He also should announce already so she can go out and raise a bunch of new money. I believe Trump has a huge cash advantage.

We aren't worried. I can see you are worried about your man Trump which is why you are here with your faux concern attempting to stir up doubt. We're locked int. We're ready to take America back and make it great again, while you cry into your little red hat.

Process matters. Biden has been in quarantine for the last 4-5 months with little else to do but still could not make a decision by his own deadline and has not even conducted a single job interview yet. Many of the women in contention had to go out and defend Biden against the Tara Reade allegations, which went against their brands, while Biden just sat around for weeks before issuing his denial. Biden's team seems to have compelled Sen. Warren to compromise her strong belief against big money fundraising by asking for her help in that kind of fundraising (seems similar to Trump sharing a plate of frog legs with Mitt Romney). Dragging this out further will only lead to more opposition research being dumped in the media by contenders or their teams. That is demeaning to every woman on the list.

[Anonymous]

He can wait as long as he wants to pick. I certainly wouldn’t want him to announce this week and take away from the awful media cycle for Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I stand by my assertion, he knows who it is, the waiting it out is strategy. The date was to satisfy inpatient people.

Waiting may give his supporters anxiety, but it works very well for him politically. Right now, the story in the news is Trump's complete failure with the economy, the pandemic response, his legal woes, and his imbecilic tweets. Trump does best when he has a target to ridicule and insult. Right now, his only target is Biden and frankly after his long career, there is nothing really new that Trump can come up with that hasn't already been thrown at Biden. Biden at this point is pretty much teflon to everyone who is sick of Trump, much like Trump is to his base. So, it makes Trump impotent, which is only good for Biden. Right now Trump is his own worst enemy.

If Biden announces his VP pick, he gives Trump something to target with his sophomoric insults. It allow him to redirect the narrative away from his political and management failures and his legal problems. Biden can sit on his pick until September or October and it will take a lot of the wind out of Trump's sails. He will have so many things to focus on last minute as they hit the last few weeks of the campaign trail, the few debates that Biden will commit to and it will concentrate the election down to the keys. The VP pick will not be a major issue in the last 8 weeks that it would be 12-14 weeks out (now). The longer Biden waits, the more he sets the pandemic and the economy as the keystones of the election.

Exactly. There's really know need to know the VP right now. So we can have more time to tear her apart? Because really that's all that will happen. Look at this forum that's full of supporters, every single person that has been mentioned has been ripped to shreds, now maginify that 100 x by the GOP mudslinging campaign. The less time spent in the dirt actually works in our favor. People are so addicted to the drama they can't see it. He should announce late August or early September.

Disagree. Biden set an August 1 deadline. If he lets it slip too much, he comes off as indecisive and irritates the 10 women he did not pick by dragging it out. Plus, a delay reinforces the "Sleepy Joe" moniker. He also should announce already so she can go out and raise a bunch of new money. I believe Trump has a huge cash advantage.

We aren't worried. I can see you are worried about your man Trump which is why you are here with your faux concern attempting to stir up doubt. We're locked int. We're ready to take America back and make it great again, while you cry into your little red hat.

Process matters. Biden has been in quarantine for the last 4-5 months with little else to do but still could not make a decision by his own deadline and has not even conducted a single job interview yet. Many of the women in contention had to go out and defend Biden against the Tara Reade allegations, which went against their brands, while Biden just sat around for weeks before issuing his denial. Biden's team seems to have compelled Sen. Warren to compromise her strong belief against big money fundraising by asking for her help in that kind of fundraising (seems similar to Trump sharing a plate of frog legs with Mitt Romney). Dragging this out further will only lead to more opposition research being dumped in the media by contenders or their teams. That is demeaning to every woman on the list.

You have no intention of voting for Biden and his VP, anyway, so this shouldn't matter to you.

[Anonymous]

There is no reason to think that Biden doesn’t know who the VP is. For whatever reason he’s chosen not to disclose. That doesn’t make him indecisive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You have no intention of voting for Biden and his VP, anyway, so this shouldn't matter to you.

A lot of repos are extremely bothered by the Democrats (duh; half their reason for existence is just being opposite the Democrats) and the idea that a woman and possibly even a minority woman is going to be the VP nom? It really crumbles their fragile cookies.

[Anonymous]

It's hard to find a moment in the news cycle lately with Trump sucking all the oxygen.

Biden definitely doesn't want to help get that Axios interview out of the headlines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's hard to find a moment in the news cycle lately with Trump sucking all the oxygen.

Biden definitely doesn't want to help get that Axios interview out of the headlines.

And why should he? Its the perfect headline. Dems have learned not to be dragged down in the mud by Trump, just ignore him, sic lawyers after him if he gets too uppity, and move on with legislating.

As for the announcement, I personally think Biden will announce at the same time of a big Dem win. Double the impact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I stand by my assertion, he knows who it is, the waiting it out is strategy. The date was to satisfy inpatient people.

Waiting may give his supporters anxiety, but it works very well for him politically. Right now, the story in the news is Trump's complete failure with the economy, the pandemic response, his legal woes, and his imbecilic tweets. Trump does best when he has a target to ridicule and insult. Right now, his only target is Biden and frankly after his long career, there is nothing really new that Trump can come up with that hasn't already been thrown at Biden. Biden at this point is pretty much teflon to everyone who is sick of Trump, much like Trump is to his base. So, it makes Trump impotent, which is only good for Biden. Right now Trump is his own worst enemy.

If Biden announces his VP pick, he gives Trump something to target with his sophomoric insults. It allow him to redirect the narrative away from his political and management failures and his legal problems. Biden can sit on his pick until September or October and it will take a lot of the wind out of Trump's sails. He will have so many things to focus on last minute as they hit the last few weeks of the campaign trail, the few debates that Biden will commit to and it will concentrate the election down to the keys. The VP pick will not be a major issue in the last 8 weeks that it would be 12-14 weeks out (now). The longer Biden waits, the more he sets the pandemic and the economy as the keystones of the election.

The VP needs to formally win the nomination at the Dem convention. Further, early voting begins in some states as early as late September. Ballots need to be designed and printed. So there’s no way Biden can just sit on his VP pick until the last minute.

How long does it take to print a ballot?

My spouse is involved in printing for a major federal agency. It is very complex.

First, there are many documents that have been modified, edited, proof read by multiple people. Each election committee needs to produce the sample ballots that are mailed to all voters. There is the mail-in ballot and the absentee ballot. Electronic ballots have to be updated and tested. But even where electronic ballots are in use, they have to have backup paper ballots in the event that there is a problem with the electronic balloting. In many states, there are a lot of requirements by state law as to how and when such documents are produced. It's a bureaucracy and there are many moving parts.

After all of these are done, there are many jurisdictions that produce the materials in multiple languages. For example, in my county the sample ballots are printed in both English and Spanish. And all materials printed are printed either in parallel or serially in both languages. Some jurisdictions make sure ballots or sample ballots or instructions are printed in multiple languages and in some organizations they only have limited staff that can proofread in each of the different languages who have to make time to edit and/or proofread every document in that language.

After all the writing, editing and prooofreading, ensuring that all regulations are followed, then all have to be sent to printers. Some jurisdictions have to print a few thousand, but some have to do hundreds of thousands or millions of copies of the documents. Most printers are not just sitting around waiting for specific documents but have full schedules of documents and what happens when multiple jurisdictions use the same printers? Or when a printer has a major job for another customer when a print job comes in?

Most print jobs are collated, folded, stapled and addressed at the same printer, but there are some where the documents are printed at one printer and then handed off to another team that has to load the documents into different machines to be folded, sealed and addressed. Large mailings like the sample ballots have to be addressed and sorted by zip code and in some jurisdictions they have to be sorted within zip codes in different ways.

They have to be delivered to the post office and with the delays in the post office thanks to the new restrictions, it could add as much as 14 days to the delivery. In some jurisdictions, there is a requirement that instructions and sample ballots must be delivered to the voters X days before the election.

So, having the right candidates on ballots for a national election and getting all the printing done is not as simple as printing the ballots for the local PTA meeting. The process takes many weeks to complete.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I honestly believe Trump would feign a health complication and drop out if Joe added Michelle Obama to his ticket. He'd know he'd be creamed in November.

I also think Whitmer is tough because attacking her makes him and GOP look like a bully attacking a "mom". Where as attacking Warren, Harris, Abrams actually plays well with his base.

I really don't understand where this idea of Michelle Obama being an unbeatable pick comes from.

Don't get me wrong - I love, love Michelle Obama. I think she'd be a great President or whatever she would like to be, but she's never held public office. And while she's wildly popular on the left, not so much on the right. This type of blind spot with Hillary Clinton is why Trump won in 2016.

I am puzzled too. She was a great First Lady. I loved her. That's it.

What are her accomplishments that we are even comparing her to Harris, Warren and the other women who are head and shoulders above her in governing and legislative experience?

Obviously the focus is on electability not governing credentials. She has none to speak of, mainly because as a Black woman she was contained in a tiny box (could not be perceived as too assertive!) and because she and her mom had to raise the girls.

Kind of highjacking the thread, but Michelle Obama was as contained as other First Ladies with the possible exception of Hillary Clinton. I don't think she was constrained any more because she was black. Our tradition, for better or worse (I'd say worse) is that First Ladies have to give up whatever else they were doing to be First Lady. Cherie Blair continued practicing law in London when her husband was the Prime Minister.