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Anonymous wrote:The split at wolftrap should not have been a priority as it was an almost even split. But Kilmer needed help.


The change to middle school AAP will help Kilmer and the capacity information being used at Kilmer is suspect at best. Agree, the Wolftrap changes are unnecessary and should not occur.


What does Madison’s enrollment look like if they undo the Wolftrap and Westbriar changes? I think it ends up under 2100 at a school recently expanded to 2500.

If only there were some Thoreau/Marshall students from Stenwood and Cunningham Park who could utilize Madison’s new capacity without putting more stress on Thoreau MS projected enrollment.

But to answer your question, if you take out the Wolftrap/Marshall kids, Madison would only gain 16 students from Vienna ES and stay at 88%
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The split at wolftrap should not have been a priority as it was an almost even split. But Kilmer needed help.


The change to middle school AAP will help Kilmer and the capacity information being used at Kilmer is suspect at best. Agree, the Wolftrap changes are unnecessary and should not occur.


What does Madison’s enrollment look like if they undo the Wolftrap and Westbriar changes? I think it ends up under 2100 at a school recently expanded to 2500.

If only there were some Thoreau/Marshall students from Stenwood and Cunningham Park who could utilize Madison’s new capacity without putting more stress on Thoreau MS projected enrollment.

But to answer your question, if you take out the Wolftrap/Marshall kids, Madison would only gain 16 students from Vienna ES and stay at 88%


What hideous planning expanded Madison that much? Marshall renovation wasn't that far before Madison - why wasn't that correctly sized? When they do these renovations or school purchases they need to be specific on why - capacity needs within existing boundaries or expansion of boundaries.
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Anonymous wrote:The split at wolftrap should not have been a priority as it was an almost even split. But Kilmer needed help.

Capacity at Kilmer can be resolved by sending existing Kilmer/Madison students to Thoreau. That is the only change needed to get them below 105%

Wolftrap/Marshall families’ dream of moving to Madison was put into peril when Westbriar/Madison families demanded to stay at Madison. If those students stay at Madison, they either need to move to Thoreau, which pushes the school above 105% or they will stay at Kilmer and it will remain a split feeder (something like 4%)

Marshall families will not be happy if the result of this exercise leaves them with more split feeders in their pyramid than what they started with (only Madison schools are being fixed and Shrevewood is turning into a split feeder) and an attendance island for Kilmer/Marshall.


Reid was asked multiple times "If the Westbriar families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Marshall remain at Madison, will the Wolftrap families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Madison still move to Madison?"

In each instance, she said yes. In at least one instance, she interrupted someone asking the question to say yes. She said she'd met with the principals of both Marshall (Litz) and Madison (Calvert) and the numbers still worked.

I don't see how they do a 180 turn without Reid forever losing credibility in the community. At a minimum, she ought to schedule an in-person meeting at Wolftrap, apologize profusely in person, and explain why they might have since concluded they need to leave Wolftrap a split feeder, whether it's to avoid overcrowding Thoreau, avoid driving up the FARMS rate at Marshall, avoid making the existing attendance island at Westbriar worse, etc.

And even then more will start pupil placing to Madison, because they've had Madison and AP dangled right in front of their faces by FCPS and Reid.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The split at wolftrap should not have been a priority as it was an almost even split. But Kilmer needed help.


The change to middle school AAP will help Kilmer and the capacity information being used at Kilmer is suspect at best. Agree, the Wolftrap changes are unnecessary and should not occur.


What does Madison’s enrollment look like if they undo the Wolftrap and Westbriar changes? I think it ends up under 2100 at a school recently expanded to 2500.

If only there were some Thoreau/Marshall students from Stenwood and Cunningham Park who could utilize Madison’s new capacity without putting more stress on Thoreau MS projected enrollment.

But to answer your question, if you take out the Wolftrap/Marshall kids, Madison would only gain 16 students from Vienna ES and stay at 88%


What hideous planning expanded Madison that much? Marshall renovation wasn't that far before Madison - why wasn't that correctly sized? When they do these renovations or school purchases they need to be specific on why - capacity needs within existing boundaries or expansion of boundaries.

Madison expansion isn’t as egregious as other expansions. If they were serious about fixing feeder patterns, scenario 1 would have had Marshall out of Thoreau MS. That would have shifted about 125-150 kids out of Marshall to Madison while correcting a horribly balanced MS feeder. Madison utilization would be between 93-95% and Marshall around 95%.

Next step would be to fix the Kilmer split feeder and capacity. Moving Madison students out of Kilmer would reduce it by about 133 seats (+8 from Vienna ES) which gets you to 105% with a grade size of around 535. Thoreau would only be gaining existing Madison students and its capacity would be 103% or around 710 students per grade. When people see utilization, I don’t think they’re really grasping how huge the class size will be.

On top of that is the mystery surrounding why Kilmer mysteriously loss 200 seats in the first place, which kicked off its previously unheard of capacity crisis.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The split at wolftrap should not have been a priority as it was an almost even split. But Kilmer needed help.


The change to middle school AAP will help Kilmer and the capacity information being used at Kilmer is suspect at best. Agree, the Wolftrap changes are unnecessary and should not occur.


What does Madison’s enrollment look like if they undo the Wolftrap and Westbriar changes? I think it ends up under 2100 at a school recently expanded to 2500.

If only there were some Thoreau/Marshall students from Stenwood and Cunningham Park who could utilize Madison’s new capacity without putting more stress on Thoreau MS projected enrollment.

But to answer your question, if you take out the Wolftrap/Marshall kids, Madison would only gain 16 students from Vienna ES and stay at 88%


That's never been proposed. Those kids live closer to Marshall than the kids at Wolftrap, in addition to which you don't have to travel through Tysons to get to Marshall from Dunn Loring Woods and Stonewall Manor (the opposite is the case for Wolftrap kids). In fact, if you live next door to Thoreau right now, you go to Marshall.

Further, Marshall kids were at Thoreau long before Oakton kids were. If they were really concerned about overcrowding at Thoreau, why aren't they looking at moving Oakton kids back to Jackson, since Jackson already stands to lose kids when all MS have AAP.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The split at wolftrap should not have been a priority as it was an almost even split. But Kilmer needed help.

Capacity at Kilmer can be resolved by sending existing Kilmer/Madison students to Thoreau. That is the only change needed to get them below 105%

Wolftrap/Marshall families’ dream of moving to Madison was put into peril when Westbriar/Madison families demanded to stay at Madison. If those students stay at Madison, they either need to move to Thoreau, which pushes the school above 105% or they will stay at Kilmer and it will remain a split feeder (something like 4%)

Marshall families will not be happy if the result of this exercise leaves them with more split feeders in their pyramid than what they started with (only Madison schools are being fixed and Shrevewood is turning into a split feeder) and an attendance island for Kilmer/Marshall.


Reid was asked multiple times "If the Westbriar families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Marshall remain at Madison, will the Wolftrap families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Madison still move to Madison?"

In each instance, she said yes. In at least one instance, she interrupted someone asking the question to say yes. She said she'd met with the principals of both Marshall (Litz) and Madison (Calvert) and the numbers still worked.

I don't see how they do a 180 turn without Reid forever losing credibility in the community. At a minimum, she ought to schedule an in-person meeting at Wolftrap, apologize profusely in person, and explain why they might have since concluded they need to leave Wolftrap a split feeder, whether it's to avoid overcrowding Thoreau, avoid driving up the FARMS rate at Marshall, avoid making the existing attendance island at Westbriar worse, etc.

And even then more will start pupil placing to Madison, because they've had Madison and AP dangled right in front of their faces by FCPS and Reid.


What is driving the love for Madison amongst Wolf Trap families? Is it AP in some cases providing more college credits or receiving an IB diploma takes more effort than just AP courses? Is it these families struggle with economic and ethnic diversity and would rather go to a less diverse or "more well off" school? Is it sports oriented families that recognize Madison as the stronger school from that perspective? As mentioned before, it is currently a fairly equal split between Marshall and Madison at Madison and the distance these neighborhoods are to Madison or Marshall are very similar / almost identical.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The split at wolftrap should not have been a priority as it was an almost even split. But Kilmer needed help.


The change to middle school AAP will help Kilmer and the capacity information being used at Kilmer is suspect at best. Agree, the Wolftrap changes are unnecessary and should not occur.


Maybe it is true that fixing the existing Wolftrap split should not have been as high of a priority as other factors since it wasn't as egregious of a split percentage, but what is being lost here is that Scenarios 1-3 made the split much worse. A huge portion of the Wolftrap students that are currently zoned for Kilmer were shifted to Thoreau, leaving the Kilmer group a much smaller percentage. Additional surrounding neighborhoods were shifted out of Marshall and into Madison. So the frustration isn't as much with the current situation (even though I personally think split feeders in any percentage are bad), but that scenarios 1-3 not only ignored the region's wishes to not have Wolftrap be a split feeder at all, and instead made it a worse split feeder.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The split at wolftrap should not have been a priority as it was an almost even split. But Kilmer needed help.


The change to middle school AAP will help Kilmer and the capacity information being used at Kilmer is suspect at best. Agree, the Wolftrap changes are unnecessary and should not occur.


People have been asking for two years why Kilmer's capacity numbers have fluctuated so much. If they haven't looked into this and concluded they are comfortable with the current capacity numbers that show Kilmer as so overcrowded (118% with modular, 153% without the modular) and inform Thru's proposals, it raises much bigger questions about the competence of FCPS's Facilities staff.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The split at wolftrap should not have been a priority as it was an almost even split. But Kilmer needed help.


The change to middle school AAP will help Kilmer and the capacity information being used at Kilmer is suspect at best. Agree, the Wolftrap changes are unnecessary and should not occur.


Maybe it is true that fixing the existing Wolftrap split should not have been as high of a priority as other factors since it wasn't as egregious of a split percentage, but what is being lost here is that Scenarios 1-3 made the split much worse. A huge portion of the Wolftrap students that are currently zoned for Kilmer were shifted to Thoreau, leaving the Kilmer group a much smaller percentage. Additional surrounding neighborhoods were shifted out of Marshall and into Madison. So the frustration isn't as much with the current situation (even though I personally think split feeders in any percentage are bad), but that scenarios 1-3 not only ignored the region's wishes to not have Wolftrap be a split feeder at all, and instead made it a worse split feeder.

I don’t think anyone is fighting to reinstate Scenario 3. It was ridiculous. The argument being made is that if the TOV can not be removed from Madison, then both Wolftrap and Westbriar should be split along the same line they’re currently split for high school, and that split should be implemented at the middle school level. So the existing split feeders will occur at middle school instead of high school. That is what’s being argued.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The split at wolftrap should not have been a priority as it was an almost even split. But Kilmer needed help.

Capacity at Kilmer can be resolved by sending existing Kilmer/Madison students to Thoreau. That is the only change needed to get them below 105%

Wolftrap/Marshall families’ dream of moving to Madison was put into peril when Westbriar/Madison families demanded to stay at Madison. If those students stay at Madison, they either need to move to Thoreau, which pushes the school above 105% or they will stay at Kilmer and it will remain a split feeder (something like 4%)

Marshall families will not be happy if the result of this exercise leaves them with more split feeders in their pyramid than what they started with (only Madison schools are being fixed and Shrevewood is turning into a split feeder) and an attendance island for Kilmer/Marshall.


Reid was asked multiple times "If the Westbriar families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Marshall remain at Madison, will the Wolftrap families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Madison still move to Madison?"

In each instance, she said yes. In at least one instance, she interrupted someone asking the question to say yes. She said she'd met with the principals of both Marshall (Litz) and Madison (Calvert) and the numbers still worked.

I don't see how they do a 180 turn without Reid forever losing credibility in the community. At a minimum, she ought to schedule an in-person meeting at Wolftrap, apologize profusely in person, and explain why they might have since concluded they need to leave Wolftrap a split feeder, whether it's to avoid overcrowding Thoreau, avoid driving up the FARMS rate at Marshall, avoid making the existing attendance island at Westbriar worse, etc.

And even then more will start pupil placing to Madison, because they've had Madison and AP dangled right in front of their faces by FCPS and Reid.


What is driving the love for Madison amongst Wolf Trap families? Is it AP in some cases providing more college credits or receiving an IB diploma takes more effort than just AP courses? Is it these families struggle with economic and ethnic diversity and would rather go to a less diverse or "more well off" school? Is it sports oriented families that recognize Madison as the stronger school from that perspective? As mentioned before, it is currently a fairly equal split between Marshall and Madison at Madison and the distance these neighborhoods are to Madison or Marshall are very similar / almost identical.


As a Wolftrap homeowner, I don't really care about if it is Madison or Marshall. I just want the whole school to move together, and don't want to change the community around Wolftrap. Most people I know consider Wolftrap to be their community (not either high school) and would like to see that remain consistent for their kids that spend 7 years of their school lives at this one school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The split at wolftrap should not have been a priority as it was an almost even split. But Kilmer needed help.

Capacity at Kilmer can be resolved by sending existing Kilmer/Madison students to Thoreau. That is the only change needed to get them below 105%

Wolftrap/Marshall families’ dream of moving to Madison was put into peril when Westbriar/Madison families demanded to stay at Madison. If those students stay at Madison, they either need to move to Thoreau, which pushes the school above 105% or they will stay at Kilmer and it will remain a split feeder (something like 4%)

Marshall families will not be happy if the result of this exercise leaves them with more split feeders in their pyramid than what they started with (only Madison schools are being fixed and Shrevewood is turning into a split feeder) and an attendance island for Kilmer/Marshall.


Reid was asked multiple times "If the Westbriar families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Marshall remain at Madison, will the Wolftrap families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Madison still move to Madison?"

In each instance, she said yes. In at least one instance, she interrupted someone asking the question to say yes. She said she'd met with the principals of both Marshall (Litz) and Madison (Calvert) and the numbers still worked.

I don't see how they do a 180 turn without Reid forever losing credibility in the community. At a minimum, she ought to schedule an in-person meeting at Wolftrap, apologize profusely in person, and explain why they might have since concluded they need to leave Wolftrap a split feeder, whether it's to avoid overcrowding Thoreau, avoid driving up the FARMS rate at Marshall, avoid making the existing attendance island at Westbriar worse, etc.

And even then more will start pupil placing to Madison, because they've had Madison and AP dangled right in front of their faces by FCPS and Reid.


What is driving the love for Madison amongst Wolf Trap families? Is it AP in some cases providing more college credits or receiving an IB diploma takes more effort than just AP courses? Is it these families struggle with economic and ethnic diversity and would rather go to a less diverse or "more well off" school? Is it sports oriented families that recognize Madison as the stronger school from that perspective? As mentioned before, it is currently a fairly equal split between Marshall and Madison at Madison and the distance these neighborhoods are to Madison or Marshall are very similar / almost identical.


Everyone is different, but changing pyramids for families is very unpopular and often emotionally detrimental to the kids. Families crave stability.

That is what the school board is taking away from all of us. Every five years, in perpetuity.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The split at wolftrap should not have been a priority as it was an almost even split. But Kilmer needed help.

Capacity at Kilmer can be resolved by sending existing Kilmer/Madison students to Thoreau. That is the only change needed to get them below 105%

Wolftrap/Marshall families’ dream of moving to Madison was put into peril when Westbriar/Madison families demanded to stay at Madison. If those students stay at Madison, they either need to move to Thoreau, which pushes the school above 105% or they will stay at Kilmer and it will remain a split feeder (something like 4%)

Marshall families will not be happy if the result of this exercise leaves them with more split feeders in their pyramid than what they started with (only Madison schools are being fixed and Shrevewood is turning into a split feeder) and an attendance island for Kilmer/Marshall.


Reid was asked multiple times "If the Westbriar families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Marshall remain at Madison, will the Wolftrap families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Madison still move to Madison?"

In each instance, she said yes. In at least one instance, she interrupted someone asking the question to say yes. She said she'd met with the principals of both Marshall (Litz) and Madison (Calvert) and the numbers still worked.

I don't see how they do a 180 turn without Reid forever losing credibility in the community. At a minimum, she ought to schedule an in-person meeting at Wolftrap, apologize profusely in person, and explain why they might have since concluded they need to leave Wolftrap a split feeder, whether it's to avoid overcrowding Thoreau, avoid driving up the FARMS rate at Marshall, avoid making the existing attendance island at Westbriar worse, etc.

And even then more will start pupil placing to Madison, because they've had Madison and AP dangled right in front of their faces by FCPS and Reid.


What is driving the love for Madison amongst Wolf Trap families? Is it AP in some cases providing more college credits or receiving an IB diploma takes more effort than just AP courses? Is it these families struggle with economic and ethnic diversity and would rather go to a less diverse or "more well off" school? Is it sports oriented families that recognize Madison as the stronger school from that perspective? As mentioned before, it is currently a fairly equal split between Marshall and Madison at Madison and the distance these neighborhoods are to Madison or Marshall are very similar / almost identical.


AP is preferable to IB among FCPS families overall.

For the Marshall neighborhoods at Wolftrap, which are north of the school, Madison is about 4 miles away and 13 minutes non-rush. Marshall is over 5 miles away and 15 minutes non-rush. However, at busier times, which coincide with when parents are often dropping off or picking up kids from HS, it can take twice as long to get to Marshall as Madison because you have to go through Tysons to get to Marshall.

The other aspect is that Madison is considered the "Vienna HS," so people in Vienna who live outside the Town of Vienna but still participate in a lot of town activities generally would prefer to send their kids there if that's possible. Not everyone, of course, but most.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The split at wolftrap should not have been a priority as it was an almost even split. But Kilmer needed help.

Capacity at Kilmer can be resolved by sending existing Kilmer/Madison students to Thoreau. That is the only change needed to get them below 105%

Wolftrap/Marshall families’ dream of moving to Madison was put into peril when Westbriar/Madison families demanded to stay at Madison. If those students stay at Madison, they either need to move to Thoreau, which pushes the school above 105% or they will stay at Kilmer and it will remain a split feeder (something like 4%)

Marshall families will not be happy if the result of this exercise leaves them with more split feeders in their pyramid than what they started with (only Madison schools are being fixed and Shrevewood is turning into a split feeder) and an attendance island for Kilmer/Marshall.


Reid was asked multiple times "If the Westbriar families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Marshall remain at Madison, will the Wolftrap families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Madison still move to Madison?"

In each instance, she said yes. In at least one instance, she interrupted someone asking the question to say yes. She said she'd met with the principals of both Marshall (Litz) and Madison (Calvert) and the numbers still worked.

I don't see how they do a 180 turn without Reid forever losing credibility in the community. At a minimum, she ought to schedule an in-person meeting at Wolftrap, apologize profusely in person, and explain why they might have since concluded they need to leave Wolftrap a split feeder, whether it's to avoid overcrowding Thoreau, avoid driving up the FARMS rate at Marshall, avoid making the existing attendance island at Westbriar worse, etc.

And even then more will start pupil placing to Madison, because they've had Madison and AP dangled right in front of their faces by FCPS and Reid.


What is driving the love for Madison amongst Wolf Trap families? Is it AP in some cases providing more college credits or receiving an IB diploma takes more effort than just AP courses? Is it these families struggle with economic and ethnic diversity and would rather go to a less diverse or "more well off" school? Is it sports oriented families that recognize Madison as the stronger school from that perspective? As mentioned before, it is currently a fairly equal split between Marshall and Madison at Madison and the distance these neighborhoods are to Madison or Marshall are very similar / almost identical.


All of the above.

We have heard some of the families that spoke at the hearing two days ago for YEARS tell their kid he will play football at Madison, because that's the better football team (even tough they are zoned for Marshall.) Vienna people are kind of rabid about their sports.

We have heard the parents who didn't pay attention when they bought a house realize they want AP and not IB (though if they bothered they would realize IB has a lot of advantages and in FCPS is used just like AP - a la carte - with the added option of the diploma.)

And, sadly, they really don't like the brown people at Marshall. At the meeting I overheard one of the Wolftrap parents talk about how Marshall will go downhill so "we are better off sticking together". When the woman he was talking to asked what he was on about, he just wink-winked.
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Anonymous wrote:Someone posted earlier that Reid said that the scenarios had not be "vetted." Does she mean that staff never looked at them to check for known issues?

What do these people get paid to do?

Hard to believe that Reid (who did not know about issues in Rt 1 corridor) is weighing in on boundaries and answering? questions.


She was talking about the 4 maps they posted for the Western High School.


Who created the maps? Staff or THRU?


And why are they showing maps to the public and getting no people all upset if they are not vetted? I swear she just says things to get people to calm down in the moment. As soon as someone is freaking out about a change she’s all “don’t worry that’s just a super drafty draft” regardless of whether that’s true. The school board must be beyond frustrated with her because then they have to clean up her mess. She is just telling everyone what they want to hear while they’re in front of her. I wouldn’t trust anything she says at this point.


Why are they doing 7 revidions to the county wide rezoning maps, based on who complains the most on the previous map?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The split at wolftrap should not have been a priority as it was an almost even split. But Kilmer needed help.

Capacity at Kilmer can be resolved by sending existing Kilmer/Madison students to Thoreau. That is the only change needed to get them below 105%

Wolftrap/Marshall families’ dream of moving to Madison was put into peril when Westbriar/Madison families demanded to stay at Madison. If those students stay at Madison, they either need to move to Thoreau, which pushes the school above 105% or they will stay at Kilmer and it will remain a split feeder (something like 4%)

Marshall families will not be happy if the result of this exercise leaves them with more split feeders in their pyramid than what they started with (only Madison schools are being fixed and Shrevewood is turning into a split feeder) and an attendance island for Kilmer/Marshall.


Reid was asked multiple times "If the Westbriar families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Marshall remain at Madison, will the Wolftrap families that Scenario 4 proposes to move to Madison still move to Madison?"

In each instance, she said yes. In at least one instance, she interrupted someone asking the question to say yes. She said she'd met with the principals of both Marshall (Litz) and Madison (Calvert) and the numbers still worked.

I don't see how they do a 180 turn without Reid forever losing credibility in the community. At a minimum, she ought to schedule an in-person meeting at Wolftrap, apologize profusely in person, and explain why they might have since concluded they need to leave Wolftrap a split feeder, whether it's to avoid overcrowding Thoreau, avoid driving up the FARMS rate at Marshall, avoid making the existing attendance island at Westbriar worse, etc.

And even then more will start pupil placing to Madison, because they've had Madison and AP dangled right in front of their faces by FCPS and Reid.


What is driving the love for Madison amongst Wolf Trap families? Is it AP in some cases providing more college credits or receiving an IB diploma takes more effort than just AP courses? Is it these families struggle with economic and ethnic diversity and would rather go to a less diverse or "more well off" school? Is it sports oriented families that recognize Madison as the stronger school from that perspective? As mentioned before, it is currently a fairly equal split between Marshall and Madison at Madison and the distance these neighborhoods are to Madison or Marshall are very similar / almost identical.


All of the above.

We have heard some of the families that spoke at the hearing two days ago for YEARS tell their kid he will play football at Madison, because that's the better football team (even tough they are zoned for Marshall.) Vienna people are kind of rabid about their sports.

We have heard the parents who didn't pay attention when they bought a house realize they want AP and not IB (though if they bothered they would realize IB has a lot of advantages and in FCPS is used just like AP - a la carte - with the added option of the diploma.)

And, sadly, they really don't like the brown people at Marshall. At the meeting I overheard one of the Wolftrap parents talk about how Marshall will go downhill so "we are better off sticking together". When the woman he was talking to asked what he was on about, he just wink-winked.


Why is it that we only ever hear about skin color from the social justice warriors? SJWs always equate going “downhill” and concepts like that with skin color and it’s super disgusting. They pretend that others are racist, but it’s really just an admission on their part. It’s part of their equity playbook
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