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Anonymous
I am puzzled too. She was a great First Lady. I loved her. That's it. What are her accomplishments that we are even comparing her to Harris, Warren and the other women who are head and shoulders above her in governing and legislative experience? |
Anonymous
He himself said August 1, which was widely reported. Then it was widely reported the timeline was extended. Does not inspire confidence if he can't make up his mind in a timely manner. https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/05/27/biden-hopes-to-announce-running-mate-by-august-1/#49065d8e5816 |
Anonymous
Obviously the focus is on electability not governing credentials. She has none to speak of, mainly because as a Black woman she was contained in a tiny box (could not be perceived as too assertive!) and because she and her mom had to raise the girls. |
Anonymous
That's the kind of chatter it would help us to hear, to have a more realistic sense of perceptions. |
Anonymous
Sure she's not a career politician like Warren or Harris, but let's not act like eh'es some slouch. She's more qualified and experienced than our current President. Following law school, Obama became an associate at the Chicago office of the law firm Sidley & Austin, where she met her future husband Barack. At the firm, she worked on marketing and intellectual property law.[4] She continues to hold her law license, but as she no longer needs it for her work, she has kept it on a voluntary inactive status since 1993.[76][77] In 1991, she held public sector positions in the Chicago city government as an Assistant to the Mayor, and as Assistant Commissioner of Planning and Development. In 1993, she became Executive Director for the Chicago office of Public Allies, a non-profit organization encouraging young people to work on social issues in nonprofit groups and government agencies.[26] She worked there nearly four years and set fundraising records for the organization that still stood 12 years after she left.[20] Obama later said that she had never been happier in her life prior to working "to build Public Allies".[78] In 1996, Obama served as the Associate Dean of Student Services at the University of Chicago, where she developed the University's Community Service Center.[79] In 2002, she began working for the University of Chicago Hospitals, first as executive director for community affairs and, beginning May 2005, as Vice President for Community and External Affairs.[80] She continued to hold the University of Chicago Hospitals position during the primary campaign of 2008, but cut back to part-time in order to spend time with her daughters as well as work for her husband's election.[81] She subsequently took a leave of absence from her job.[82] According to the couple's 2006 income tax return, her salary was $273,618 from the University of Chicago Hospitals, while her husband had a salary of $157,082 from the United States Senate. The Obamas' total income was $991,296, which included $51,200 she earned as a member of the board of directors of TreeHouse Foods, and investments and royalties from his books.[83] Obama served as a salaried board member of TreeHouse Foods, Inc. (NYSE: THS),[84] a major Wal-Mart supplier from shortly after her husband was seated in the Senate until she cut ties shortly after her husband announced his candidacy for the presidency; he criticized Wal-Mart labor policies at an AFL-CIO forum in Trenton, New Jersey, on May 14, 2007.[85] She also served on the board of directors of the Chicago Council on Global Affairs.[86] |
Anonymous
I'm definitely bored 
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Anonymous
I really don't think people who are seriously going to vote seriously are concerned about this. I stand by my assertion, he knows who it is, the waiting it out is strategy. The date was to satisfy inpatient people. |
Anonymous
There's a big difference. Clinton spent a good part of the 12 years as Arkansas first lady and the 8 years as the US first lady engaging in politics, sometimes successfully other times not. But she was politically active as first lady. After her husband's term in office as POTUS finished, she became a New York state senator and then secretary of state. She has bona fide political credentials of her own and if you only go by her credentials, she was an excellent candidate. The blind spot that Democrats have with Clinton is that as much as she has genuine political credentials, she also has a huge set of scandals and controversies to go along. For most politicians, if you look at their scandal lists on someplace like Wikipedia, there is a separate section for it including the 1-5 scandals. Clinton has a separate indexed page just for her scandals and controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Hillary_Clinton_controversies There are 22 items on the list. Even if you don't believe that everything is a scandal most of the country believes at least one of these items is a problem for a candidate for POTUS, many believe that several of these are problems. In 2016 we had a rate dilemma of two presidential candidates that had far greater negative impressions than positive impressions. People often talk about having to choose between the lesser of two evils, but this was a case of choosing between the lesser of two great evils. For all the positives of having such good credentials, Hillary Rodham Clilnton was still a terrible selection. She and her husband had a huge long laundry list of question actions, ethics, morals and scandals. The Anybody-But-Clinton contingent was huge, even larger than the Anybody-But-Trump contingent. He was the last man standing in a "hold your nose and squeeze our eyes shut and vote" election. Obama does not have nearly Clinton's resume or credentials. Yes, she has a lot of valuable legal and administrative experience. Her credentials would be good for a first foray into politics like state or local office. But they don't really stack up as good enough experience as a first time political candidate for a major national office. People are saying that Buttigieg, Abrams don't have enough experience and they have years more experience than Obama. There are people who want to see Raimondo, Whitmer, Bottoms, etc have more federal experience. They want to see senators with less than 4 years experience get more experience. And you really want to posit that a candidate with absolutely NO political experience is going to sweep through the veepstakes unscathed simply because she was a popular first lady and a hospital administrator? Clinton and Obama were two very different first ladies with two completely different resumes. That said, they are both weak candidates for VPOTUS for completely different reasons. |
Anonymous
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I’ve heard so much about Harris and Bass lately in the media. Their surrogates seem to be pushing them hard, both in the media and behind the scenes.
Meanwhile, it feels like the Duckworth camp has been very low key and hush-hush. I’m wondering if she’s actually got it in the bag and is just quietly hiding her time? Meanwhile Harris and Bass camps are trying to make a splashy show of support as part of their efforts to close the deal? |
Anonymous
Waiting may give his supporters anxiety, but it works very well for him politically. Right now, the story in the news is Trump's complete failure with the economy, the pandemic response, his legal woes, and his imbecilic tweets. Trump does best when he has a target to ridicule and insult. Right now, his only target is Biden and frankly after his long career, there is nothing really new that Trump can come up with that hasn't already been thrown at Biden. Biden at this point is pretty much teflon to everyone who is sick of Trump, much like Trump is to his base. So, it makes Trump impotent, which is only good for Biden. Right now Trump is his own worst enemy. If Biden announces his VP pick, he gives Trump something to target with his sophomoric insults. It allow him to redirect the narrative away from his political and management failures and his legal problems. Biden can sit on his pick until September or October and it will take a lot of the wind out of Trump's sails. He will have so many things to focus on last minute as they hit the last few weeks of the campaign trail, the few debates that Biden will commit to and it will concentrate the election down to the keys. The VP pick will not be a major issue in the last 8 weeks that it would be 12-14 weeks out (now). The longer Biden waits, the more he sets the pandemic and the economy as the keystones of the election. |
Anonymous
The VP needs to formally win the nomination at the Dem convention. Further, early voting begins in some states as early as late September. Ballots need to be designed and printed. So there’s no way Biden can just sit on his VP pick until the last minute. |
Anonymous
+1 And this is the veepstakes to end all veepstakes. This chosen woman could be the first woman President. |
Anonymous
Harris and Bass are perceived as the two leading Black contenders, so it's natural their surrogates are pushing them hard in the final weeks. Also Harris's surrogates felt the pick slipping away after Dodd's criticism so came out hard to advocate for her. Bass is such a late entry, her surrogates are making sure she gets notice, and some of them are explicitly presenting her as an alternative to Bass. They know they're in direct competition and are being compared. Both are very accomplished but in different ways and have different temperaments. It behooves Duckworth to do her own thing. Her veteran status stands on its own and is her main claim to candidacy, since it is what will most appeal to swing voters. Not knocking her, she's a well-rounded candidate otherwise too but she's in a different category from the first two. She also might be smart to remain low-key since Biden is thought to prefer that. But several weeks ago she was doing lots of media appearances and wrote a number of op-eds on issues including racial justice. It won't surprise me at all if she gets the nod as the "do the least harm" candidate. |
Anonymous
| People claim the DNC, and I’m sure they have an opinion, but it’s ultimately Joe’s call. I don’t feel great that he hasn’t decided yet but he does have very different options, each with strengths and weaknesses, from which to choose. |
Anonymous
How long does it take to print a ballot? |