Affirmative Action should be income-based, not race-based

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:White people complaining about black kids taking their kid's spot in college Wow. Let. It. GO. Life is not fair for anyone. Stop crying. Billy will get into med school. According to most of you, the black kids will fail out by the second semester, Billy will just have to sit out a semester or go to community college for a little while.

NO...Billy will NOT get into med school. Despite his better grades and better scores, he has to become a P.A, and the black kid with the B average gets in, and, with lots of tutoring, manages to finish med school and becomes a doctor.

And if we are talking about college, why should Billy have to go to community college so a black kid with a so-so record goes to university? Why not let the kid with the so-so record go to community college? There is absolutely no justification for the black son of an accountant with a mediocre record to get "jumped" over the poor white kid with better grades.

Remember,...this thread started as advocating for AA based on income. We should not be giving an advantage to middle-class black kids over poor whites kids WHO HAVE BETTER GRADES. It's ridiculous.

Billy is entitled to sh1t. If he was on the cusp of acceptance - say bottom 8% - he can find another path.

Damn, but you sure don't give a sh!t about whites, do you! Why is the black kid with THE WORSE GRADES entitled to go to med school when his grades are so much lower than whites? Why can't fhe black kid find another path?

And are you black or white? I'm curious given your entitlement attitude where blacks are concerned.

“Entitlement attitude where blacks are concerned” - ha. That’s rich.

Bet you don’t think black lives don’t matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really wish liberals would stop this disgraceful havit of calling everyone a racist or bigot. There is absolutely nothing bigoted about pointing out that white applicants with a 3.8 GPA get rejected from institutions that accept black applicants with a 3.2 GPA (as published data clearly shows) and to discuss the inequity in this situation. It is clearly racist to discriminate based in skin color, which is what these institutions are doing.

What’s the right term for thinking blacks are out to take what you think you’re entitled to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really wish liberals would stop this disgraceful havit of calling everyone a racist or bigot. There is absolutely nothing bigoted about pointing out that white applicants with a 3.8 GPA get rejected from institutions that accept black applicants with a 3.2 GPA (as published data clearly shows) and to discuss the inequity in this situation. It is clearly racist to discriminate based in skin color, which is what these institutions are doing.

What’s the right term for thinking blacks are out to take what you think you’re entitled to?

NOBODY is entitled to anything. Let the students compete, and the ones with the best grades and test scores get in, with "bonus" points for those from poor backgrounds. But skin color should not be a factor.

You act as if blacks are ENTITLED to get into to med school regardless of how much lower than grades/scores are compared to whites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:White people complaining about black kids taking their kid's spot in college Wow. Let. It. GO. Life is not fair for anyone. Stop crying. Billy will get into med school. According to most of you, the black kids will fail out by the second semester, Billy will just have to sit out a semester or go to community college for a little while.

NO...Billy will NOT get into med school. Despite his better grades and better scores, he has to become a P.A, and the black kid with the B average gets in, and, with lots of tutoring, manages to finish med school and becomes a doctor.

And if we are talking about college, why should Billy have to go to community college so a black kid with a so-so record goes to university? Why not let the kid with the so-so record go to community college? There is absolutely no justification for the black son of an accountant with a mediocre record to get "jumped" over the poor white kid with better grades.

Remember,...this thread started as advocating for AA based on income. We should not be giving an advantage to middle-class black kids over poor whites kids WHO HAVE BETTER GRADES. It's ridiculous.

Billy is entitled to sh1t. If he was on the cusp of acceptance - say bottom 8% - he can find another path.

Damn, but you sure don't give a sh!t about whites, do you! Why is the black kid with THE WORSE GRADES entitled to go to med school when his grades are so much lower than whites? Why can't fhe black kid find another path?

And are you black or white? I'm curious given your entitlement attitude where blacks are concerned.

“Entitlement attitude where blacks are concerned” - ha. That’s rich.

Bet you don’t think black lives don’t matter.

And there you are again,,,,with your accusation of racist. Were you the bigot who said the white boy can just go to community college? You are either a racist black or a self-loathing white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really wish liberals would stop this disgraceful havit of calling everyone a racist or bigot. There is absolutely nothing bigoted about pointing out that white applicants with a 3.8 GPA get rejected from institutions that accept black applicants with a 3.2 GPA (as published data clearly shows) and to discuss the inequity in this situation. It is clearly racist to discriminate based in skin color, which is what these institutions are doing.

What’s the right term for thinking blacks are out to take what you think you’re entitled to?

NOBODY is entitled to anything. Let the students compete, and the ones with the best grades and test scores get in, with "bonus" points for those from poor backgrounds. But skin color should not be a factor.

You act as if blacks are ENTITLED to get into to med school regardless of how much lower than grades/scores are compared to whites.

Why shouldn’t race be a factor?

Please provide facts that show that there is a level playing ground for all races.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really wish liberals would stop this disgraceful havit of calling everyone a racist or bigot. There is absolutely nothing bigoted about pointing out that white applicants with a 3.8 GPA get rejected from institutions that accept black applicants with a 3.2 GPA (as published data clearly shows) and to discuss the inequity in this situation. It is clearly racist to discriminate based in skin color, which is what these institutions are doing.

What’s the right term for thinking blacks are out to take what you think you’re entitled to?

NOBODY is entitled to anything. Let the students compete, and the ones with the best grades and test scores get in, with "bonus" points for those from poor backgrounds. But skin color should not be a factor.

You act as if blacks are ENTITLED to get into to med school regardless of how much lower than grades/scores are compared to whites.

Why shouldn’t race be a factor?

Please provide facts that show that there is a level playing ground for all races.
Because the disadvantage comes from a poor background, with uneducated parents, not race per se. You honestly think Susie Black, whose college-educated parents sent her to private school and paid for a tutor, should get accepted over Billy White, who despite having parents with high school diplomas, managed to get better grades and test scores?

The determining factor should be SES. NOt skin color.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really wish liberals would stop this disgraceful havit of calling everyone a racist or bigot. There is absolutely nothing bigoted about pointing out that white applicants with a 3.8 GPA get rejected from institutions that accept black applicants with a 3.2 GPA (as published data clearly shows) and to discuss the inequity in this situation. It is clearly racist to discriminate based in skin color, which is what these institutions are doing.

What’s the right term for thinking blacks are out to take what you think you’re entitled to?

NOBODY is entitled to anything. Let the students compete, and the ones with the best grades and test scores get in, with "bonus" points for those from poor backgrounds. But skin color should not be a factor.

You act as if blacks are ENTITLED to get into to med school regardless of how much lower than grades/scores are compared to whites.

Why shouldn’t race be a factor?

Please provide facts that show that there is a level playing ground for all races.
Because the disadvantage comes from a poor background, with uneducated parents, not race per se. You honestly think Susie Black, whose college-educated parents sent her to private school and paid for a tutor, should get accepted over Billy White, who despite having parents with high school diplomas, managed to get better grades and test scores?

The determining factor should be SES. NOt skin color.

That doesn't demonstrate a level-playing ground.

Let's say Daeshanda Jackson is applying for the same job as Timothy Smithfield III. Who do you think is more likely to get the call back?

Maybe Ms. Jackson needs that Harvard on her resume a little more than Mr. Smithfield.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:White people complaining about black kids taking their kid's spot in college Wow. Let. It. GO. Life is not fair for anyone. Stop crying. Billy will get into med school. According to most of you, the black kids will fail out by the second semester, Billy will just have to sit out a semester or go to community college for a little while.

NO...Billy will NOT get into med school. Despite his better grades and better scores, he has to become a P.A, and the black kid with the B average gets in, and, with lots of tutoring, manages to finish med school and becomes a doctor.

And if we are talking about college, why should Billy have to go to community college so a black kid with a so-so record goes to university? Why not let the kid with the so-so record go to community college? There is absolutely no justification for the black son of an accountant with a mediocre record to get "jumped" over the poor white kid with better grades.

Remember,...this thread started as advocating for AA based on income. We should not be giving an advantage to middle-class black kids over poor whites kids WHO HAVE BETTER GRADES. It's ridiculous.

Billy is entitled to sh1t. If he was on the cusp of acceptance - say bottom 8% - he can find another path.

Damn, but you sure don't give a sh!t about whites, do you! Why is the black kid with THE WORSE GRADES entitled to go to med school when his grades are so much lower than whites? Why can't fhe black kid find another path?

And are you black or white? I'm curious given your entitlement attitude where blacks are concerned.

“Entitlement attitude where blacks are concerned” - ha. That’s rich.

Bet you don’t think black lives don’t matter.

Double negative. AA grammar?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really wish liberals would stop this disgraceful havit of calling everyone a racist or bigot. There is absolutely nothing bigoted about pointing out that white applicants with a 3.8 GPA get rejected from institutions that accept black applicants with a 3.2 GPA (as published data clearly shows) and to discuss the inequity in this situation. It is clearly racist to discriminate based in skin color, which is what these institutions are doing.

What’s the right term for thinking blacks are out to take what you think you’re entitled to?

NOBODY is entitled to anything. Let the students compete, and the ones with the best grades and test scores get in, with "bonus" points for those from poor backgrounds. But skin color should not be a factor.

You act as if blacks are ENTITLED to get into to med school regardless of how much lower than grades/scores are compared to whites.

Why shouldn’t race be a factor?

Please provide facts that show that there is a level playing ground for all races.
Because the disadvantage comes from a poor background, with uneducated parents, not race per se. You honestly think Susie Black, whose college-educated parents sent her to private school and paid for a tutor, should get accepted over Billy White, who despite having parents with high school diplomas, managed to get better grades and test scores?

The determining factor should be SES. NOt skin color.

That doesn't demonstrate a level-playing ground.

Let's say Daeshanda Jackson is applying for the same job as Timothy Smithfield III. Who do you think is more likely to get the call back?

Maybe Ms. Jackson needs that Harvard on her resume a little more than Mr. Smithfield.

If Ms Jackson is do hampered by her first name, perhaps she could be first initial and middle initial Jackson.
When I applied to law school in 1968, I used initials and did not check gender on the app. I got in

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:White people complaining about black kids taking their kid's spot in college Wow. Let. It. GO. Life is not fair for anyone. Stop crying. Billy will get into med school. According to most of you, the black kids will fail out by the second semester, Billy will just have to sit out a semester or go to community college for a little while.

NO...Billy will NOT get into med school. Despite his better grades and better scores, he has to become a P.A, and the black kid with the B average gets in, and, with lots of tutoring, manages to finish med school and becomes a doctor.

And if we are talking about college, why should Billy have to go to community college so a black kid with a so-so record goes to university? Why not let the kid with the so-so record go to community college? There is absolutely no justification for the black son of an accountant with a mediocre record to get "jumped" over the poor white kid with better grades.

Remember,...this thread started as advocating for AA based on income. We should not be giving an advantage to middle-class black kids over poor whites kids WHO HAVE BETTER GRADES. It's ridiculous.

Billy is entitled to sh1t. If he was on the cusp of acceptance - say bottom 8% - he can find another path.

Damn, but you sure don't give a sh!t about whites, do you! Why is the black kid with THE WORSE GRADES entitled to go to med school when his grades are so much lower than whites? Why can't fhe black kid find another path?

And are you black or white? I'm curious given your entitlement attitude where blacks are concerned.

“Entitlement attitude where blacks are concerned” - ha. That’s rich.

Bet you don’t think black lives don’t matter.

Double negative. AA grammar?

Or just typing on my phone. Edited quickly and didn't proofread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really wish liberals would stop this disgraceful havit of calling everyone a racist or bigot. There is absolutely nothing bigoted about pointing out that white applicants with a 3.8 GPA get rejected from institutions that accept black applicants with a 3.2 GPA (as published data clearly shows) and to discuss the inequity in this situation. It is clearly racist to discriminate based in skin color, which is what these institutions are doing.

What’s the right term for thinking blacks are out to take what you think you’re entitled to?

NOBODY is entitled to anything. Let the students compete, and the ones with the best grades and test scores get in, with "bonus" points for those from poor backgrounds. But skin color should not be a factor.

You act as if blacks are ENTITLED to get into to med school regardless of how much lower than grades/scores are compared to whites.

But you are only focused on one just group who is displacing marginal college applicants. What about other URMs? What about college athletes? What about legacy kids?

It's very telling that you are only focused on ONE group.

[Anonymous]

Ugh. Apparently, just too tired to post coherently.

"But you are focused on just one group who may be displacing marginal college applicants. What about other URMs? What about college athletes? What about legacy kids?

It's very telling that you are only focused on this one particular group."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ugh. Apparently, just too tired to post coherently.

"But you are focused on just one group who may be displacing marginal college applicants. What about other URMs? What about college athletes? What about legacy kids?

It's very telling that you are only focused on this one particular group."

would definitely like doctors, airline pilots etc to meet the same set qualifications. If not to enter, at least to graduate? I hope none of that is a moveable goal post?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ugh. Apparently, just too tired to post coherently.

"But you are focused on just one group who may be displacing marginal college applicants. What about other URMs? What about college athletes? What about legacy kids?

It's very telling that you are only focused on this one particular group."

would definitely like doctors, airline pilots etc to meet the same set qualifications. If not to enter, at least to graduate? I hope none of that is a moveable goal post?

you have to understand how the liberal mind works to them race matters more than qualifications

most have so much liberal white guilt they can't function properly

liberal whites are more concerned with racial issues than blacks and latinos which proves how off the reservation they are

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ugh. Apparently, just too tired to post coherently.

"But you are focused on just one group who may be displacing marginal college applicants. What about other URMs? What about college athletes? What about legacy kids?

It's very telling that you are only focused on this one particular group."

would definitely like doctors, airline pilots etc to meet the same set qualifications. If not to enter, at least to graduate? I hope none of that is a moveable goal post?

you have to understand how the liberal mind works to them race matters more than qualifications

most have so much liberal white guilt they can't function properly

liberal whites are more concerned with racial issues than blacks and latinos which proves how off the reservation they are

Liar. No one said that.