Mueller does not find Trump campaign knowingly conspired with Russia

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Anonymous wrote:even if trump did obstruct, since there was no collusion, then there is nothing to obstruct, CASE closed (50 million tax payer dollars saved)


It was only $25m and it made more money than that for us by catching Manafort etc's serial wrongdoing
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Anonymous wrote:Excellent thread by Kimberley Strassel:

1) On the #NoCollusion findings of Mueller's report. It's worth recognizing that this is more than an exoneration. It's a searing indictment of the FBI.

2) If you are going to investigate a presidential campaign, and on a charge as grave as collusion, and with the heavy-handed tactics the FBI employed--you'd better have a highly convincing reason to act. The Mueller report is a judgment that never was any real evidence.

3) The Papadopoulos conversation was always thin gruel. And the Mueller findings now prove the dossier was a fabrication. The country now deserves a full accounting of how the FBI blew this so badly--so that it doesn't happen again.

4) If Mueller has done his job, he will address some of this. But the real accounting needs to come from a full declassification of FBI/DOJ probe docs. Mueller report is only half the story. Time to go back to the beginning, to how we got a special counsel in first place.


Time to remind people: the FBI operates without a legal charter. It was hatched by Teddy Roosevelt to pursue his agenda. It's time we re-examine the frightening powers we give to law enforcement and the intelligence agencies.


In early 2016, Peter Strozk was just a section chief, and Andy McCabe the head of a FBI field office. The fact that they could start an investigation against a presidential candidate of a major party during an election year, largely based on the opposing party's "research", shows the enormous unchecked power of unelected buracrats.

People will lose faith in our institutions if John Brennan, James Comey, Andy McCabe and Peter Strozk are not investigated. The same rigor from Mueller needs to apply here.


Except the report says that Russia did try and get Trump collude. His only saving Grace was that he (and Jr.) we're too stupid and ignorant of world affairs to pick up on the efforts. This doesn't exonerate Trump it just says he was too.stupid to realize what was going on. How was the FBI supposed to know that the president elect was dumber than a sophmore pol sci undergrad? Without an investigation we'd have never known whether he was stupid or evil. Turns out he's just stupid. Congratulations! Yeah America


That is NOT what the report says.
Did it ever occur to you that they had no interest in working with Russia?
I know you don't want to admit it....... This report absolutely exonerates Trump.


No it doesn't. It says that Russia did try but that Trump did not KNOWINGLY cooperate. It exonerates Trump colluding with Russia but NOT Russia interfering in the election.


Can you quote the part where he uses the word KNOWINGLY? I don’t see it.
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No collusion of any kind by Trump or his campaign.

Dear conspiracy theorists,

You better stop the BS now, before too many Independents notice how full of BS you are and vote accordingly.
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Anonymous wrote:Excellent thread by Kimberley Strassel:

1) On the #NoCollusion findings of Mueller's report. It's worth recognizing that this is more than an exoneration. It's a searing indictment of the FBI.

2) If you are going to investigate a presidential campaign, and on a charge as grave as collusion, and with the heavy-handed tactics the FBI employed--you'd better have a highly convincing reason to act. The Mueller report is a judgment that never was any real evidence.

3) The Papadopoulos conversation was always thin gruel. And the Mueller findings now prove the dossier was a fabrication. The country now deserves a full accounting of how the FBI blew this so badly--so that it doesn't happen again.

4) If Mueller has done his job, he will address some of this. But the real accounting needs to come from a full declassification of FBI/DOJ probe docs. Mueller report is only half the story. Time to go back to the beginning, to how we got a special counsel in first place.


Time to remind people: the FBI operates without a legal charter. It was hatched by Teddy Roosevelt to pursue his agenda. It's time we re-examine the frightening powers we give to law enforcement and the intelligence agencies.


In early 2016, Peter Strozk was just a section chief, and Andy McCabe the head of a FBI field office. The fact that they could start an investigation against a presidential candidate of a major party during an election year, largely based on the opposing party's "research", shows the enormous unchecked power of unelected buracrats.

People will lose faith in our institutions if John Brennan, James Comey, Andy McCabe and Peter Strozk are not investigated. The same rigor from Mueller needs to apply here.


Except the report says that Russia did try and get Trump collude. His only saving Grace was that he (and Jr.) we're too stupid and ignorant of world affairs to pick up on the efforts. This doesn't exonerate Trump it just says he was too.stupid to realize what was going on. How was the FBI supposed to know that the president elect was dumber than a sophmore pol sci undergrad? Without an investigation we'd have never known whether he was stupid or evil. Turns out he's just stupid. Congratulations! Yeah America


That is NOT what the report says.
Did it ever occur to you that they had no interest in working with Russia?
I know you don't want to admit it....... This report absolutely exonerates Trump.


No it doesn't. It says that Russia did try but that Trump did not KNOWINGLY cooperate. It exonerates Trump colluding with Russia but NOT Russia interfering in the election.


Can you quote the part where he uses the word KNOWINGLY? I don’t see it.

I'm assuming you missed the word "not" placed in front of knowingly, because otherwise it would get kinda weird. You know,.demanding I prove a negative I suggested while somehow arguing that I was wrong but the thing I saiid doesn't exist doesn't exist.
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Anonymous wrote:I am Russian and a non citizen. I just have this vague hope that maybe Russia will finally be left alone? I am not a fan of trump and I don’t care what happens to him. He is a disgrace to his country. My opinion on Putin is not black and white; in fact I thought there was collusion - I am happy there wasn’t.
Now can everyone leave Russia alone?
The fact that there was no collusion just proves how democrats are completely removed from an average Joe. They lost because they they didn’t care for anything except looking progressive. Now they are at it again: reparations, illegal amnesty/welcoming hordes of unvetted illiterate masses who will be a burden on taxpayer for years; shoving non traditional candidates down peoples throats.
Who needs Russia if dems are so good at digging their own graves?
It is also sad that there is no alternative really. Republicans are so backwards with their pro life views and fascination with religion. Trump at least does not sincerely believe any of that, he just cares about his own good. Who is there to like and vote for?
Please please American people leave my country alone and focus on your own problems.


I believe Russia meddled. But I also think they always have meddled. And why wouldn't they? They are an economic rival.



+1.

Same as the US has interfered in dozens if not hundreds of foreign elections, and this has little to do with Russia & Trump.

Let's find a new scapegoat.

Witches?


Martians? You can't PROVE they didn't 'hack the election'!

Ancient alien theorists say “YES”
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Anonymous wrote:Trump's comment upon returning to the WH:

"I just want to tell you..... that America is the greatest place on earth. Thank you."


He just noticed?


To be fair, he's said that all along. Remember how long it took Michelle Obama to acknowledge she was proud of her country?


Right, that clown says America is the greatest place on earth because it is the place where people like you give him a full pass on every stupid thing he says and does. He is not fit to lick Michelle Obama's shoes.
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Anonymous wrote:Trump's comment upon returning to the WH:

"I just want to tell you..... that America is the greatest place on earth. Thank you."


He just noticed?


To be fair, he's said that all along. Remember how long it took Michelle Obama to acknowledge she was proud of her country?


Right, that clown says America is the greatest place on earth because it is the place where people like you give him a full pass on every stupid thing he says and does. He is not fit to lick Michelle Obama's shoes.


Ew.
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Anonymous wrote:Excellent thread by Kimberley Strassel:

1) On the #NoCollusion findings of Mueller's report. It's worth recognizing that this is more than an exoneration. It's a searing indictment of the FBI.

2) If you are going to investigate a presidential campaign, and on a charge as grave as collusion, and with the heavy-handed tactics the FBI employed--you'd better have a highly convincing reason to act. The Mueller report is a judgment that never was any real evidence.

3) The Papadopoulos conversation was always thin gruel. And the Mueller findings now prove the dossier was a fabrication. The country now deserves a full accounting of how the FBI blew this so badly--so that it doesn't happen again.

4) If Mueller has done his job, he will address some of this. But the real accounting needs to come from a full declassification of FBI/DOJ probe docs. Mueller report is only half the story. Time to go back to the beginning, to how we got a special counsel in first place.


Time to remind people: the FBI operates without a legal charter. It was hatched by Teddy Roosevelt to pursue his agenda. It's time we re-examine the frightening powers we give to law enforcement and the intelligence agencies.


In early 2016, Peter Strozk was just a section chief, and Andy McCabe the head of a FBI field office. The fact that they could start an investigation against a presidential candidate of a major party during an election year, largely based on the opposing party's "research", shows the enormous unchecked power of unelected buracrats.

People will lose faith in our institutions if John Brennan, James Comey, Andy McCabe and Peter Strozk are not investigated. The same rigor from Mueller needs to apply here.


Well said.
There are others as well....Glenn Simpson, Samantha Powers, and the H.Clinton campaign

Plus one million


Glenn Simpson should definitely be investigated. The Russian lawyer in the Trump tower meeting met with him three nights in a row for dinner during the trip. The Russian needed to be cleared by SDNY and Obama's state department to get her visa. Glenn Simpson was also the intermediary between Clinton and Steele.
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Anonymous wrote:Why do people keep saying trump is exonerated when the Barr letter says exactly the opposite with respect to obstruction?


Because they lack reading and critical thinking skills.


Obviously.
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Anonymous wrote:Excellent thread by Kimberley Strassel:

1) On the #NoCollusion findings of Mueller's report. It's worth recognizing that this is more than an exoneration. It's a searing indictment of the FBI.

2) If you are going to investigate a presidential campaign, and on a charge as grave as collusion, and with the heavy-handed tactics the FBI employed--you'd better have a highly convincing reason to act. The Mueller report is a judgment that never was any real evidence.

3) The Papadopoulos conversation was always thin gruel. And the Mueller findings now prove the dossier was a fabrication. The country now deserves a full accounting of how the FBI blew this so badly--so that it doesn't happen again.

4) If Mueller has done his job, he will address some of this. But the real accounting needs to come from a full declassification of FBI/DOJ probe docs. Mueller report is only half the story. Time to go back to the beginning, to how we got a special counsel in first place.


Time to remind people: the FBI operates without a legal charter. It was hatched by Teddy Roosevelt to pursue his agenda. It's time we re-examine the frightening powers we give to law enforcement and the intelligence agencies.


In early 2016, Peter Strozk was just a section chief, and Andy McCabe the head of a FBI field office. The fact that they could start an investigation against a presidential candidate of a major party during an election year, largely based on the opposing party's "research", shows the enormous unchecked power of unelected buracrats.

People will lose faith in our institutions if John Brennan, James Comey, Andy McCabe and Peter Strozk are not investigated. The same rigor from Mueller needs to apply here.


Except the report says that Russia did try and get Trump collude. His only saving Grace was that he (and Jr.) we're too stupid and ignorant of world affairs to pick up on the efforts. This doesn't exonerate Trump it just says he was too.stupid to realize what was going on. How was the FBI supposed to know that the president elect was dumber than a sophmore pol sci undergrad? Without an investigation we'd have never known whether he was stupid or evil. Turns out he's just stupid. Congratulations! Yeah America


That is NOT what the report says.
Did it ever occur to you that they had no interest in working with Russia?
I know you don't want to admit it....... This report absolutely exonerates Trump.


No it doesn't. It says that Russia did try but that Trump did not KNOWINGLY cooperate. It exonerates Trump colluding with Russia but NOT Russia interfering in the election.


Can you quote the part where he uses the word KNOWINGLY? I don’t see it.

I'm assuming you missed the word "not" placed in front of knowingly, because otherwise it would get kinda weird. You know,.demanding I prove a negative I suggested while somehow arguing that I was wrong but the thing I saiid doesn't exist doesn't exist.


No, I didn't miss the word "not." What I'm missing in Barr's letter is the word "knowingly." Nowhere do I see where he says "did not knowingly cooperate." I only see that he says he "did not cooperate." There is a difference.
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Anonymous wrote:Excellent thread by Kimberley Strassel:

1) On the #NoCollusion findings of Mueller's report. It's worth recognizing that this is more than an exoneration. It's a searing indictment of the FBI.

2) If you are going to investigate a presidential campaign, and on a charge as grave as collusion, and with the heavy-handed tactics the FBI employed--you'd better have a highly convincing reason to act. The Mueller report is a judgment that never was any real evidence.

3) The Papadopoulos conversation was always thin gruel. And the Mueller findings now prove the dossier was a fabrication. The country now deserves a full accounting of how the FBI blew this so badly--so that it doesn't happen again.

4) If Mueller has done his job, he will address some of this. But the real accounting needs to come from a full declassification of FBI/DOJ probe docs. Mueller report is only half the story. Time to go back to the beginning, to how we got a special counsel in first place.


Time to remind people: the FBI operates without a legal charter. It was hatched by Teddy Roosevelt to pursue his agenda. It's time we re-examine the frightening powers we give to law enforcement and the intelligence agencies.


In early 2016, Peter Strozk was just a section chief, and Andy McCabe the head of a FBI field office. The fact that they could start an investigation against a presidential candidate of a major party during an election year, largely based on the opposing party's "research", shows the enormous unchecked power of unelected buracrats.

People will lose faith in our institutions if John Brennan, James Comey, Andy McCabe and Peter Strozk are not investigated. The same rigor from Mueller needs to apply here.


Well said.
There are others as well....Glenn Simpson, Samantha Powers, and the H.Clinton campaign

Plus one million


Glenn Simpson should definitely be investigated. The Russian lawyer in the Trump tower meeting met with him three nights in a row for dinner during the trip. The Russian needed to be cleared by SDNY and Obama's state department to get her visa. Glenn Simpson was also the intermediary between Clinton and Steele.


Kimberly Strassel is a nut. Start there with your investigation.
Anonymous
Going to bed. Depressed that Trump has pretty much won 2020.
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Anonymous wrote:Excellent thread by Kimberley Strassel:

1) On the #NoCollusion findings of Mueller's report. It's worth recognizing that this is more than an exoneration. It's a searing indictment of the FBI.

2) If you are going to investigate a presidential campaign, and on a charge as grave as collusion, and with the heavy-handed tactics the FBI employed--you'd better have a highly convincing reason to act. The Mueller report is a judgment that never was any real evidence.

3) The Papadopoulos conversation was always thin gruel. And the Mueller findings now prove the dossier was a fabrication. The country now deserves a full accounting of how the FBI blew this so badly--so that it doesn't happen again.

4) If Mueller has done his job, he will address some of this. But the real accounting needs to come from a full declassification of FBI/DOJ probe docs. Mueller report is only half the story. Time to go back to the beginning, to how we got a special counsel in first place.


Time to remind people: the FBI operates without a legal charter. It was hatched by Teddy Roosevelt to pursue his agenda. It's time we re-examine the frightening powers we give to law enforcement and the intelligence agencies.


In early 2016, Peter Strozk was just a section chief, and Andy McCabe the head of a FBI field office. The fact that they could start an investigation against a presidential candidate of a major party during an election year, largely based on the opposing party's "research", shows the enormous unchecked power of unelected buracrats.

People will lose faith in our institutions if John Brennan, James Comey, Andy McCabe and Peter Strozk are not investigated. The same rigor from Mueller needs to apply here.


Except the report says that Russia did try and get Trump collude. His only saving Grace was that he (and Jr.) we're too stupid and ignorant of world affairs to pick up on the efforts. This doesn't exonerate Trump it just says he was too.stupid to realize what was going on. How was the FBI supposed to know that the president elect was dumber than a sophmore pol sci undergrad? Without an investigation we'd have never known whether he was stupid or evil. Turns out he's just stupid. Congratulations! Yeah America


That is NOT what the report says.
Did it ever occur to you that they had no interest in working with Russia?
I know you don't want to admit it....... This report absolutely exonerates Trump.


No it doesn't. It says that Russia did try but that Trump did not KNOWINGLY cooperate. It exonerates Trump colluding with Russia but NOT Russia interfering in the election.


Can you quote the part where he uses the word KNOWINGLY? I don’t see it.

I'm assuming you missed the word "not" placed in front of knowingly, because otherwise it would get kinda weird. You know,.demanding I prove a negative I suggested while somehow arguing that I was wrong but the thing I saiid doesn't exist doesn't exist.


No, I didn't miss the word "not." What I'm missing in Barr's letter is the word "knowingly." Nowhere do I see where he says "did not knowingly cooperate." I only see that he says he "did not cooperate." There is a difference.


I don't know what to tell you dude, the indictments have already revealed that the same groups and places were targeted by both, that campaign data was shared, that the DNC hack was done by Russia, and that WikiLeaks deliberately timed their releases.

The question has always been whether, what would, in common usage, be called cooperation,
it was done intentionally or unintentionally.
Anonymous
Not shocked or surprised. Disappointed but not surprised. White mediocrity has always won in this country. Good nugtb y’all.
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Anonymous wrote:Trump's comment upon returning to the WH:

"I just want to tell you..... that America is the greatest place on earth. Thank you."


He just noticed?


To be fair, he's said that all along. Remember how long it took Michelle Obama to acknowledge she was proud of her country?


Right, that clown says America is the greatest place on earth because it is the place where people like you give him a full pass on every stupid thing he says and does. He is not fit to lick Michelle Obama's shoes.


you mean her $4000 Balenciaga boots?

the country that made her rich enough to BUY these boots . . . Let's not overlook that little fact.
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