Accommodation Nation

[Anonymous]

As an Accommodation Nation, do we really have any basis or right to complain about the upcoming invasion of the workplace by artificial intelligence (AI) ? Once emotion is removed from the workplace won't work efforts become more efficient ?

[Anonymous]

The only fair thing to do is to give everyone as much time as they need, as long as they sit the test in one session (to prevent cheating). That way, the quicker kids can walk out earlier when they’re done and the slower kids can stay until they feel like they’re finished. Then the slower kids aren’t at a disadvantage but it’s fair for everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is in a tough STEM major. I am wondering if 20-30 percent of the kids have accommodations, then it’s kind of like my son starting a 5K 1/4 mile behind. That’s not fair.

Don’t worry, if the kids actually need accommodation they are starting a mile behind him.

Having a serious disability isn’t nearly the cheat code people seem to think it is.

I think that we all agree that a serious disability merits consideration, but the article and concern is about trivial or imaginary or intentionally fabricated disabilities regarding anxiety that have become a form of institutionally permissible form of cheating.

The majority of the comments here don't suggest people think accommodations are appropriate for those with "real" disabilities. Most commenters seem to think if you need accommodations, you're a loser and can't possibly be a good employee deserving of a job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only fair thing to do is to give everyone as much time as they need, as long as they sit the test in one session (to prevent cheating). That way, the quicker kids can walk out earlier when they’re done and the slower kids can stay until they feel like they’re finished. Then the slower kids aren’t at a disadvantage but it’s fair for everyone.

Classes, buildings, and professors all have schedules and time limits. Students can’t sit in their class for an open- ended amount of time to take a test. The rest of the world, including the professor and other classes that need that space, have time constraints.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is in a tough STEM major. I am wondering if 20-30 percent of the kids have accommodations, then it’s kind of like my son starting a 5K 1/4 mile behind. That’s not fair.

Don’t worry, if the kids actually need accommodation they are starting a mile behind him.

Having a serious disability isn’t nearly the cheat code people seem to think it is.

I think that we all agree that a serious disability merits consideration, but the article and concern is about trivial or imaginary or intentionally fabricated disabilities regarding anxiety that have become a form of institutionally permissible form of cheating.

The majority of the comments here don't suggest people think accommodations are appropriate for those with "real" disabilities. Most commenters seem to think if you need accommodations, you're a loser and can't possibly be a good employee deserving of a job.

Yes, they do. The majority of commenters are noted that accommodations are being abused by students that don’t actually have a disability and their “disability” is not going to viewed as such in the workplace. Therefore, college should be the time they learn to adapt and manage- not seek accommodations

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is in a tough STEM major. I am wondering if 20-30 percent of the kids have accommodations, then it’s kind of like my son starting a 5K 1/4 mile behind. That’s not fair.

Don’t worry, if the kids actually need accommodation they are starting a mile behind him.

Having a serious disability isn’t nearly the cheat code people seem to think it is.

I think that we all agree that a serious disability merits consideration, but the article and concern is about trivial or imaginary or intentionally fabricated disabilities regarding anxiety that have become a form of institutionally permissible form of cheating.

The majority of the comments here don't suggest people think accommodations are appropriate for those with "real" disabilities. Most commenters seem to think if you need accommodations, you're a loser and can't possibly be a good employee deserving of a job.

This is about school, not work. School is (or should be) about all vectors of intelligence, including processing speed. Some jobs need fast processing speed and some don’t. It is the employers job to sort that out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only fair thing to do is to give everyone as much time as they need, as long as they sit the test in one session (to prevent cheating). That way, the quicker kids can walk out earlier when they’re done and the slower kids can stay until they feel like they’re finished. Then the slower kids aren’t at a disadvantage but it’s fair for everyone.

Not with respect to the LSAT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only fair thing to do is to give everyone as much time as they need, as long as they sit the test in one session (to prevent cheating). That way, the quicker kids can walk out earlier when they’re done and the slower kids can stay until they feel like they’re finished. Then the slower kids aren’t at a disadvantage but it’s fair for everyone.

Classes, buildings, and professors all have schedules and time limits. Students can’t sit in their class for an open- ended amount of time to take a test. The rest of the world, including the professor and other classes that need that space, have time constraints.

If they can manage it for some of the kids they can manage it for all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only fair thing to do is to give everyone as much time as they need, as long as they sit the test in one session (to prevent cheating). That way, the quicker kids can walk out earlier when they’re done and the slower kids can stay until they feel like they’re finished. Then the slower kids aren’t at a disadvantage but it’s fair for everyone.

+1

[Anonymous]

The accommodation that pisses me off is they get to register for classes earlier than other students.

A parent I know whose child is at a big university told me that thank goodness he has an anxiety accommodation; otherwise he would have gotten shut out of the classes he really wanted. That’s really unfair and unnecessary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only fair thing to do is to give everyone as much time as they need, as long as they sit the test in one session (to prevent cheating). That way, the quicker kids can walk out earlier when they’re done and the slower kids can stay until they feel like they’re finished. Then the slower kids aren’t at a disadvantage but it’s fair for everyone.

+1

How is it fairer for the slower kids (ie the less capable ones) to get special treatment?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The accommodation that pisses me off is they get to register for classes earlier than other students.

A parent I know whose child is at a big university told me that thank goodness he has an anxiety accommodation; otherwise he would have gotten shut out of the classes he really wanted. That’s really unfair and unnecessary.

This is the one that confounds me the most. Anxiety is *not supposed to be accommodated.* that is literally the main therepeutic intervention for anxiety. You learn to cope with it an accept it, not avoid it through accomodations. Acceptable accomodations for anxiety might be some scheduling flexibility for Dr appts; allowing some assignments to be scaffolded (ie - allowed to do a shorter presentation then work up to a full one - but not excused altogether from public speaking). If a student has to take a lower course load that should be allowed too. But otherwise the main service colleges should provide is excellent therapeutic support in the college mental health clinic that delivers CBT/ACT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only fair thing to do is to give everyone as much time as they need, as long as they sit the test in one session (to prevent cheating). That way, the quicker kids can walk out earlier when they’re done and the slower kids can stay until they feel like they’re finished. Then the slower kids aren’t at a disadvantage but it’s fair for everyone.

Not with respect to the LSAT.

Why? Previous 170 LSAT extra time PP thinks they likely would have been admitted to a T14 even with what would have been their lower score from a timed test. Shouldn’t we trust their assessment? It’s a big law analysis, after all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only fair thing to do is to give everyone as much time as they need, as long as they sit the test in one session (to prevent cheating). That way, the quicker kids can walk out earlier when they’re done and the slower kids can stay until they feel like they’re finished. Then the slower kids aren’t at a disadvantage but it’s fair for everyone.

Not with respect to the LSAT.

Why? Previous 170 LSAT extra time PP thinks they likely would have been admitted to a T14 even with what would have been their lower score from a timed test. Shouldn’t we trust their assessment? It’s a big law analysis, after all.

Y'all are just cruel. That person has clearly been successful in law school and beyond.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only fair thing to do is to give everyone as much time as they need, as long as they sit the test in one session (to prevent cheating). That way, the quicker kids can walk out earlier when they’re done and the slower kids can stay until they feel like they’re finished. Then the slower kids aren’t at a disadvantage but it’s fair for everyone.

Not with respect to the LSAT.

Why? Previous 170 LSAT extra time PP thinks they likely would have been admitted to a T14 even with what would have been their lower score from a timed test. Shouldn’t we trust their assessment? It’s a big law analysis, after all.

Y'all are just cruel. That person has clearly been successful in law school and beyond.

For the millionth time. They should stand on their own two feet. Processing speed is a type of intelligence that is legitimate to measure and rank. It is very important for many jobs, including many types of legal jobs.