US Supreme Court Rules Against Affirmative Action in College Admissions

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand some of you. Are you upset that Supreme Court overturned a racist law?

This co-opting of the term "racist" is disingenuous. Did you read SC Justice Brown's dissent? There are reasonable disagreements with affirmative action (as well as reasonable justifications for it), but higher education is an important tool in addressing systemic racism in our society that disproportionately affects Black families given the history of slavery, Jim Crow laws and their residual effects in so many ways in present society (disproportionate policing and sentencing for similar crimes is just one example), but also impacts other URMs. Systemic racism will be harder to address without the types of affirmative action policies colleges developed.

So you think it was fair that Brown's kids would have gotten a bump based on race while a white or asian janitor's kid would be dinged for their race?

The janitor's would have gotten a bigger bump based on their income status. But also no matter how rich Brown's kids are--they are still more likely to be stopped by the police, monitored in every store they go into, etc. Racism affects every day life for Black people in this country in a very dramatic way--no matter how rich they are.

It's Justice Jackson, not Brown.

There is no data to support your first sentence.

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Roberts' majority opinion excludes the military academies. Go Army! Go Navy!

"The United States as amicus curiae contends that race-based admissions programs further compelling interests at our Nation’s military
academies. No military academy is a party to these cases, however, and none of the courts below addressed the propriety of race-based admissions systems in that context. This opinion also does not address the issue, in light of the potentially distinct interests that military academies may present."

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Anonymous wrote:Alleluia. I didn’t immigrate to a country that still openly practices racial discrimination using the name of diversify.

Sorry, but you still immigrated to a country that practices racial discrimination. Getting rid of affirmative action won't make American racial issue free.

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So now we have one essay topic for all the URMs.

Harship from the racism LMFAO

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Anonymous wrote:Roberts' majority opinion excludes the military academies. Go Army! Go Navy!

"The United States as amicus curiae contends that race-based admissions programs further compelling interests at our Nation’s military
academies. No military academy is a party to these cases, however, and none of the courts below addressed the propriety of race-based admissions systems in that context. This opinion also does not address the issue, in light of the potentially distinct interests that military academies may present."

Did anyone ask for that?

What are the distinct military interests? Preferring to kill certain races in war?

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Anonymous wrote:Lets not forget this hurts Asians at colleges where they are URM. This will hurt way more asians than the small handful who will now get into Yale etc.

LOL are there any selective colleges where this is anywhere close to true?

And if it's not selective, then the delta isn't relevant.

Yes.

And the fact that you don't know this shows you are uninformed on the topic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Bad news : The number of Asian students admitted into these schools won't see an exponential increase.

Good news : They will have to find some other boogeyman to blame .

Any one of them who gets the spot can overlord so many people in his or her lifetime that this will have an exponential influence in the long term.

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If DCUM weren’t anonymous so many posters would be humming entirely different tunes. It’s kind of scary, actually.

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Anonymous wrote:Alleluia. I didn’t immigrate to a country that still openly practices racial discrimination using the name of diversify.

Sorry, but you still immigrated to a country that practices racial discrimination. Getting rid of affirmative action won't make American racial issue free.

+1,000,000 say it again, especially for those minorities who think this is beneficial.

It only sanctions and encourages more racial conduct and sentiments from those constantly aggrieved whites.

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Anonymous wrote:So now we have one essay topic for all the URMs.

Harship from the racism LMFAO

AOs will get sick and tired of reading about it LMAO

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Yeah!

- Asian.

I co-sign this and I’m black.

I hate race-based affirmative action for “diversity” reasons and completely agree with Justice Thomas on how stigmatizing it is for black students at elite schools. It bothers me to no end how every one (especially on DCUM) readily dismisses conservative black voices as if we are some imaginary creatures that cannot possibly diverge from liberal stereotypes. (I’m looking at you, Biden, with your “you’re not black if you don’t vote for me” crap.)

News flash: pull up a Pew poll, even among African Americans, a majority did NOT support race-based admissions advantages for college.

I did not vote for Trump but I considered it. And I am grateful for his appointments to the Supreme Court because they’ve restored sanity to the interpretation of the Constitution.

Black kids at good colleges will now get the credit and respect they deserve.

The same respect that a Black President gets!

The same respect that a Black person trying to buy or sell a house gets!

The same respect that a Black person driving a car or walking down the street gets!

I’m a black person who’s gotten respect doing all of these things! Thanks!

No self-respecting Black person refers to themselves as black.

Get over yourself. I don’t capitalize it because I’m not constantly trying to follow whatever late-breaking fad has been thought up to signal your membership in the liberal tribe. I also, gasp, don’t use BIPOC!

You’re not Black, troll. No one believes your poor attempt at digital blackface. Move along.

What is it that prevents you from accepting that a black person can have a different opinion than you? In what other contexts or with what other races do you deny people the possibility of thinking for themselves?

It’s not the difference of opinion that’s at issue for me; it’s the wording of your statements. There are certain “tells” that make it clear that you’re not Black (not including the lack of capitalization of the B). And no, I’m not going to reveal the tells. IYKYK.

What a tragedy to withhold this wisdom, this manual of stereotypes, from DCUM

Pretty sure Clarence Thomas would fail your test and he’s definitely black (and absolutely right about affirmative action).

Clarence Thomas has abused his position by selling access to his office to the highest bidder. His wife is a similar sloppy amoral mess. Good to know that’s who you align yourself with here. I’m not interested in having any additional exchange with you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lets not forget this hurts Asians at colleges where they are URM. This will hurt way more asians than the small handful who will now get into Yale etc.

LOL are there any selective colleges where this is anywhere close to true?

And if it's not selective, then the delta isn't relevant.

They are referring to subgroups of Asians from poor and politically unstable countries, not rich Chinese expats.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Roberts' majority opinion excludes the military academies. Go Army! Go Navy!

"The United States as amicus curiae contends that race-based admissions programs further compelling interests at our Nation’s military
academies. No military academy is a party to these cases, however, and none of the courts below addressed the propriety of race-based admissions systems in that context. This opinion also does not address the issue, in light of the potentially distinct interests that military academies may present."

Did anyone ask for that?

What are the distinct military interests? Preferring to kill certain races in war?

The issues IIRC have to do with command of troops - if all officers and high command is white and the rank-and-file are disproportionately non-white, in a war situation, it becomes an issue with casualties being borne by the non-white population. It affects morale and discipline. I know this was an issue during the Vietnam War but there was a lot of progress made so I’m not sure how potent it is today.

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard doesn't seem to upset with the decision and they are highlighting the subjective aspects of decisions in their letter to the alumni community:

"The Court also ruled that colleges and universities may consider in admissions decisions “an applicant’s discussion of how race affected his or her life, be it through discrimination, inspiration, or otherwise.” We will certainly comply with the Court’s decision."

Because race can no longer be used as an "objective" factor, Whites and Asian Americans will have less grounding in new lawsuits about admissions--because even if the admissions results end up admitting more Black and Hispanic or other races--college admissions officers will be able to build a more realistic case that the experiences of racism that the students' represented . Given that Black and Hispanics on average are more likely to experience documented racism that impacts their access to academic opportunities it will be harder to argue against that in a way that passes muster in court than that other applicants had higher GPA/SATs. The criteria like likeability and character were much more problematic. The more I read about this, the more I think the long-term result is that there will be greater racial diversity in higher education rather than less as a result of this.

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Anonymous wrote:So now we have one essay topic for all the URMs.

Harship from the racism LMFAO

AOs will get sick and tired of reading about it LMAO

Everyone will be writing about this: black, white, Asian.

I'm glad I don't have an applicant for a few years so I can see how this works out.

In 23-24 I bet 95% of applicants of any color write about racial hardship.