Redshirting August boy?

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Anonymous wrote:The thing that really gets to me are the parents who come on here and post, "Why do you care if I redshirt my kid?! What does it matter to you if I didn't want him to be the youngest?" It matters to me because holding back normally developing summer birthday kids puts non-redshirted kids at a disadvantage. Now, instead of being one year younger than the older peers, they are sometimes 15 months younger than the others. Redshirting skews the age, abilities, maturity, and social capacities of a class. I wish schools would set a cut off and hold to it.

It literally does not matter, speaking as a parent who didn’t redshirt and has kids in their older teens now. If you think it matters, you have lead, so far, a pretty narrow and restricted life. Of all the things my kids have encountered in their lives, other kids redshirting is never, ever on the list of even mildly problematic things they’ve encountered. I’d honestly be pretty stressed out as a parent if they told me the redshirting of other kids bothered them, because it would show my kids lacked a healthy sense of perspective and reality. (Fortunately my kids would never do that.)

Also, you have plenty of options with private school: just go to a private school that does not redshirt. There are some schools that don’t redshirt very often if at all. I don’t understand why that concept is so hard to grasp, but with private schools you have options.

You are incredibly naive with a sense of entitlement.

I think actually you are the one who is incredibly naive and entitled, given how upset you are about something like redshirting. You’ve clearly never encountered any real problems in school. You spend all your mental energy on this and not on the kids who go to school hungry, who are years behind grade level, the drugs in schools, the vaping, the violence. I’ve worked with, tried to solve, and seen all of this. But you? You are worried your precious little snowflake might encounter a kid ten months older than her rather than nine months older than her. Yeah, you are the naive and entitled one here.

Only served to show how naive and entitled you are.

You don't even have kids, do you?

Uh, yes I do. You don’t have a moral compass, do you?

You mock children, yes? You wouldn't know anything about a moral compass.

Says the one who called a child a snowflake.

I did no such think. There are multiple posters here.

And I didn’t mock any child. So you are wrong to say I did.

It was a question, wasn't it? If that wasn't you fine. But someone is being very hateful to kids calling them "slow" which is beyond disgusting. I wouldn't want to be on the side of people who use such foul language to talk about innocent kids.

Like the one who says redshirting is okay while calling a child a snowflake.

It's all wrong. But still not seeing evidence or proof that other kids are being harmed if some kids start late. Surely there must be some evidence somewhere?

Entitlement.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing that really gets to me are the parents who come on here and post, "Why do you care if I redshirt my kid?! What does it matter to you if I didn't want him to be the youngest?" It matters to me because holding back normally developing summer birthday kids puts non-redshirted kids at a disadvantage. Now, instead of being one year younger than the older peers, they are sometimes 15 months younger than the others. Redshirting skews the age, abilities, maturity, and social capacities of a class. I wish schools would set a cut off and hold to it.

It literally does not matter, speaking as a parent who didn’t redshirt and has kids in their older teens now. If you think it matters, you have lead, so far, a pretty narrow and restricted life. Of all the things my kids have encountered in their lives, other kids redshirting is never, ever on the list of even mildly problematic things they’ve encountered. I’d honestly be pretty stressed out as a parent if they told me the redshirting of other kids bothered them, because it would show my kids lacked a healthy sense of perspective and reality. (Fortunately my kids would never do that.)

Also, you have plenty of options with private school: just go to a private school that does not redshirt. There are some schools that don’t redshirt very often if at all. I don’t understand why that concept is so hard to grasp, but with private schools you have options.

You are incredibly naive with a sense of entitlement.

I think actually you are the one who is incredibly naive and entitled, given how upset you are about something like redshirting. You’ve clearly never encountered any real problems in school. You spend all your mental energy on this and not on the kids who go to school hungry, who are years behind grade level, the drugs in schools, the vaping, the violence. I’ve worked with, tried to solve, and seen all of this. But you? You are worried your precious little snowflake might encounter a kid ten months older than her rather than nine months older than her. Yeah, you are the naive and entitled one here.

Only served to show how naive and entitled you are.

You don't even have kids, do you?

Uh, yes I do. You don’t have a moral compass, do you?

You mock children, yes? You wouldn't know anything about a moral compass.

Says the one who called a child a snowflake.

I did no such think. There are multiple posters here.

And I didn’t mock any child. So you are wrong to say I did.

It was a question, wasn't it? If that wasn't you fine. But someone is being very hateful to kids calling them "slow" which is beyond disgusting. I wouldn't want to be on the side of people who use such foul language to talk about innocent kids.

Like the one who says redshirting is okay while calling a child a snowflake.

It's all wrong. But still not seeing evidence or proof that other kids are being harmed if some kids start late. Surely there must be some evidence somewhere?

OMG!

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Anonymous wrote:The thing that really gets to me are the parents who come on here and post, "Why do you care if I redshirt my kid?! What does it matter to you if I didn't want him to be the youngest?" It matters to me because holding back normally developing summer birthday kids puts non-redshirted kids at a disadvantage. Now, instead of being one year younger than the older peers, they are sometimes 15 months younger than the others. Redshirting skews the age, abilities, maturity, and social capacities of a class. I wish schools would set a cut off and hold to it.

It literally does not matter, speaking as a parent who didn’t redshirt and has kids in their older teens now. If you think it matters, you have lead, so far, a pretty narrow and restricted life. Of all the things my kids have encountered in their lives, other kids redshirting is never, ever on the list of even mildly problematic things they’ve encountered. I’d honestly be pretty stressed out as a parent if they told me the redshirting of other kids bothered them, because it would show my kids lacked a healthy sense of perspective and reality. (Fortunately my kids would never do that.)

Also, you have plenty of options with private school: just go to a private school that does not redshirt. There are some schools that don’t redshirt very often if at all. I don’t understand why that concept is so hard to grasp, but with private schools you have options.

You are incredibly naive with a sense of entitlement.

I think actually you are the one who is incredibly naive and entitled, given how upset you are about something like redshirting. You’ve clearly never encountered any real problems in school. You spend all your mental energy on this and not on the kids who go to school hungry, who are years behind grade level, the drugs in schools, the vaping, the violence. I’ve worked with, tried to solve, and seen all of this. But you? You are worried your precious little snowflake might encounter a kid ten months older than her rather than nine months older than her. Yeah, you are the naive and entitled one here.

Only served to show how naive and entitled you are.

You don't even have kids, do you?

Uh, yes I do. You don’t have a moral compass, do you?

You mock children, yes? You wouldn't know anything about a moral compass.

Says the one who called a child a snowflake.

I did no such think. There are multiple posters here.

And I didn’t mock any child. So you are wrong to say I did.

It was a question, wasn't it? If that wasn't you fine. But someone is being very hateful to kids calling them "slow" which is beyond disgusting. I wouldn't want to be on the side of people who use such foul language to talk about innocent kids.

Like the one who says redshirting is okay while calling a child a snowflake.

It's all wrong. But still not seeing evidence or proof that other kids are being harmed if some kids start late. Surely there must be some evidence somewhere?

Let’s insult kids, but first I want evidence of starting kids late.

If the point is that kids are harmed then back it up. Maybe if the evidence had been provided back on page 1 this thread would be shorter. But, 20 pages, lots of insults, no data. I guess OP can do what she likes since it doesn't seem to matter one way or the other.

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Wait. Is one of the anti-redshirters actually upset about the use of the popular culture term “snowflake”. Please tell me that person is trying to secretly parody anti-redshirters and is not real. Please! I cannot imagine how that person actually survives actual life otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:If this were a June bday it would be a closer question, but an August birthday I wouldn't think twice about redshirting.

+1. Think the may/June redshirting for both genders is out of control, but I would redshirt late august if I had concerns.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing that really gets to me are the parents who come on here and post, "Why do you care if I redshirt my kid?! What does it matter to you if I didn't want him to be the youngest?" It matters to me because holding back normally developing summer birthday kids puts non-redshirted kids at a disadvantage. Now, instead of being one year younger than the older peers, they are sometimes 15 months younger than the others. Redshirting skews the age, abilities, maturity, and social capacities of a class. I wish schools would set a cut off and hold to it.

It literally does not matter, speaking as a parent who didn’t redshirt and has kids in their older teens now. If you think it matters, you have lead, so far, a pretty narrow and restricted life. Of all the things my kids have encountered in their lives, other kids redshirting is never, ever on the list of even mildly problematic things they’ve encountered. I’d honestly be pretty stressed out as a parent if they told me the redshirting of other kids bothered them, because it would show my kids lacked a healthy sense of perspective and reality. (Fortunately my kids would never do that.)

Also, you have plenty of options with private school: just go to a private school that does not redshirt. There are some schools that don’t redshirt very often if at all. I don’t understand why that concept is so hard to grasp, but with private schools you have options.

You are incredibly naive with a sense of entitlement.

I think actually you are the one who is incredibly naive and entitled, given how upset you are about something like redshirting. You’ve clearly never encountered any real problems in school. You spend all your mental energy on this and not on the kids who go to school hungry, who are years behind grade level, the drugs in schools, the vaping, the violence. I’ve worked with, tried to solve, and seen all of this. But you? You are worried your precious little snowflake might encounter a kid ten months older than her rather than nine months older than her. Yeah, you are the naive and entitled one here.

Only served to show how naive and entitled you are.

You don't even have kids, do you?

Uh, yes I do. You don’t have a moral compass, do you?

You mock children, yes? You wouldn't know anything about a moral compass.

Says the one who called a child a snowflake.

I did no such think. There are multiple posters here.

And I didn’t mock any child. So you are wrong to say I did.

It was a question, wasn't it? If that wasn't you fine. But someone is being very hateful to kids calling them "slow" which is beyond disgusting. I wouldn't want to be on the side of people who use such foul language to talk about innocent kids.

Like the one who says redshirting is okay while calling a child a snowflake.

It's all wrong. But still not seeing evidence or proof that other kids are being harmed if some kids start late. Surely there must be some evidence somewhere?

Let’s insult kids, but first I want evidence of starting kids late.

If the point is that kids are harmed then back it up. Maybe if the evidence had been provided back on page 1 this thread would be shorter. But, 20 pages, lots of insults, no data. I guess OP can do what she likes since it doesn't seem to matter one way or the other.

Deflecting from calling someone’s child a name. Stop pretending you care about children when you insult them. Clearly, you don’t. This is a power trip for you.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing that really gets to me are the parents who come on here and post, "Why do you care if I redshirt my kid?! What does it matter to you if I didn't want him to be the youngest?" It matters to me because holding back normally developing summer birthday kids puts non-redshirted kids at a disadvantage. Now, instead of being one year younger than the older peers, they are sometimes 15 months younger than the others. Redshirting skews the age, abilities, maturity, and social capacities of a class. I wish schools would set a cut off and hold to it.

It literally does not matter, speaking as a parent who didn’t redshirt and has kids in their older teens now. If you think it matters, you have lead, so far, a pretty narrow and restricted life. Of all the things my kids have encountered in their lives, other kids redshirting is never, ever on the list of even mildly problematic things they’ve encountered. I’d honestly be pretty stressed out as a parent if they told me the redshirting of other kids bothered them, because it would show my kids lacked a healthy sense of perspective and reality. (Fortunately my kids would never do that.)

Also, you have plenty of options with private school: just go to a private school that does not redshirt. There are some schools that don’t redshirt very often if at all. I don’t understand why that concept is so hard to grasp, but with private schools you have options.

You are incredibly naive with a sense of entitlement.

I think actually you are the one who is incredibly naive and entitled, given how upset you are about something like redshirting. You’ve clearly never encountered any real problems in school. You spend all your mental energy on this and not on the kids who go to school hungry, who are years behind grade level, the drugs in schools, the vaping, the violence. I’ve worked with, tried to solve, and seen all of this. But you? You are worried your precious little snowflake might encounter a kid ten months older than her rather than nine months older than her. Yeah, you are the naive and entitled one here.

Only served to show how naive and entitled you are.

You don't even have kids, do you?

Uh, yes I do. You don’t have a moral compass, do you?

You mock children, yes? You wouldn't know anything about a moral compass.

Says the one who called a child a snowflake.

I did no such think. There are multiple posters here.

And I didn’t mock any child. So you are wrong to say I did.

It was a question, wasn't it? If that wasn't you fine. But someone is being very hateful to kids calling them "slow" which is beyond disgusting. I wouldn't want to be on the side of people who use such foul language to talk about innocent kids.

Like the one who says redshirting is okay while calling a child a snowflake.

It's all wrong. But still not seeing evidence or proof that other kids are being harmed if some kids start late. Surely there must be some evidence somewhere?

Let’s insult kids, but first I want evidence of starting kids late.

If the point is that kids are harmed then back it up. Maybe if the evidence had been provided back on page 1 this thread would be shorter. But, 20 pages, lots of insults, no data. I guess OP can do what she likes since it doesn't seem to matter one way or the other.

Deflecting from calling someone’s child a name. Stop pretending you care about children when you insult them. Clearly, you don’t. This is a power trip for you.

It's amazing you think there's one person posting here.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing that really gets to me are the parents who come on here and post, "Why do you care if I redshirt my kid?! What does it matter to you if I didn't want him to be the youngest?" It matters to me because holding back normally developing summer birthday kids puts non-redshirted kids at a disadvantage. Now, instead of being one year younger than the older peers, they are sometimes 15 months younger than the others. Redshirting skews the age, abilities, maturity, and social capacities of a class. I wish schools would set a cut off and hold to it.

It literally does not matter, speaking as a parent who didn’t redshirt and has kids in their older teens now. If you think it matters, you have lead, so far, a pretty narrow and restricted life. Of all the things my kids have encountered in their lives, other kids redshirting is never, ever on the list of even mildly problematic things they’ve encountered. I’d honestly be pretty stressed out as a parent if they told me the redshirting of other kids bothered them, because it would show my kids lacked a healthy sense of perspective and reality. (Fortunately my kids would never do that.)

Also, you have plenty of options with private school: just go to a private school that does not redshirt. There are some schools that don’t redshirt very often if at all. I don’t understand why that concept is so hard to grasp, but with private schools you have options.

You are incredibly naive with a sense of entitlement.

I think actually you are the one who is incredibly naive and entitled, given how upset you are about something like redshirting. You’ve clearly never encountered any real problems in school. You spend all your mental energy on this and not on the kids who go to school hungry, who are years behind grade level, the drugs in schools, the vaping, the violence. I’ve worked with, tried to solve, and seen all of this. But you? You are worried your precious little snowflake might encounter a kid ten months older than her rather than nine months older than her. Yeah, you are the naive and entitled one here.

Only served to show how naive and entitled you are.

You don't even have kids, do you?

Uh, yes I do. You don’t have a moral compass, do you?

You mock children, yes? You wouldn't know anything about a moral compass.

Says the one who called a child a snowflake.

I did no such think. There are multiple posters here.

And I didn’t mock any child. So you are wrong to say I did.

It was a question, wasn't it? If that wasn't you fine. But someone is being very hateful to kids calling them "slow" which is beyond disgusting. I wouldn't want to be on the side of people who use such foul language to talk about innocent kids.

Like the one who says redshirting is okay while calling a child a snowflake.

It's all wrong. But still not seeing evidence or proof that other kids are being harmed if some kids start late. Surely there must be some evidence somewhere?

Let’s insult kids, but first I want evidence of starting kids late.

If the point is that kids are harmed then back it up. Maybe if the evidence had been provided back on page 1 this thread would be shorter. But, 20 pages, lots of insults, no data. I guess OP can do what she likes since it doesn't seem to matter one way or the other.

You can’t think for yourself?

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Anonymous wrote:The thing that really gets to me are the parents who come on here and post, "Why do you care if I redshirt my kid?! What does it matter to you if I didn't want him to be the youngest?" It matters to me because holding back normally developing summer birthday kids puts non-redshirted kids at a disadvantage. Now, instead of being one year younger than the older peers, they are sometimes 15 months younger than the others. Redshirting skews the age, abilities, maturity, and social capacities of a class. I wish schools would set a cut off and hold to it.

It literally does not matter, speaking as a parent who didn’t redshirt and has kids in their older teens now. If you think it matters, you have lead, so far, a pretty narrow and restricted life. Of all the things my kids have encountered in their lives, other kids redshirting is never, ever on the list of even mildly problematic things they’ve encountered. I’d honestly be pretty stressed out as a parent if they told me the redshirting of other kids bothered them, because it would show my kids lacked a healthy sense of perspective and reality. (Fortunately my kids would never do that.)

Also, you have plenty of options with private school: just go to a private school that does not redshirt. There are some schools that don’t redshirt very often if at all. I don’t understand why that concept is so hard to grasp, but with private schools you have options.

You are incredibly naive with a sense of entitlement.

I think actually you are the one who is incredibly naive and entitled, given how upset you are about something like redshirting. You’ve clearly never encountered any real problems in school. You spend all your mental energy on this and not on the kids who go to school hungry, who are years behind grade level, the drugs in schools, the vaping, the violence. I’ve worked with, tried to solve, and seen all of this. But you? You are worried your precious little snowflake might encounter a kid ten months older than her rather than nine months older than her. Yeah, you are the naive and entitled one here.

Only served to show how naive and entitled you are.

You don't even have kids, do you?

Uh, yes I do. You don’t have a moral compass, do you?

You mock children, yes? You wouldn't know anything about a moral compass.

Says the one who called a child a snowflake.

I did no such think. There are multiple posters here.

And I didn’t mock any child. So you are wrong to say I did.

It was a question, wasn't it? If that wasn't you fine. But someone is being very hateful to kids calling them "slow" which is beyond disgusting. I wouldn't want to be on the side of people who use such foul language to talk about innocent kids.

Like the one who says redshirting is okay while calling a child a snowflake.

It's all wrong. But still not seeing evidence or proof that other kids are being harmed if some kids start late. Surely there must be some evidence somewhere?

Let’s insult kids, but first I want evidence of starting kids late.

If the point is that kids are harmed then back it up. Maybe if the evidence had been provided back on page 1 this thread would be shorter. But, 20 pages, lots of insults, no data. I guess OP can do what she likes since it doesn't seem to matter one way or the other.

You can’t think for yourself?

So, you've got nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing that really gets to me are the parents who come on here and post, "Why do you care if I redshirt my kid?! What does it matter to you if I didn't want him to be the youngest?" It matters to me because holding back normally developing summer birthday kids puts non-redshirted kids at a disadvantage. Now, instead of being one year younger than the older peers, they are sometimes 15 months younger than the others. Redshirting skews the age, abilities, maturity, and social capacities of a class. I wish schools would set a cut off and hold to it.

It literally does not matter, speaking as a parent who didn’t redshirt and has kids in their older teens now. If you think it matters, you have lead, so far, a pretty narrow and restricted life. Of all the things my kids have encountered in their lives, other kids redshirting is never, ever on the list of even mildly problematic things they’ve encountered. I’d honestly be pretty stressed out as a parent if they told me the redshirting of other kids bothered them, because it would show my kids lacked a healthy sense of perspective and reality. (Fortunately my kids would never do that.)

Also, you have plenty of options with private school: just go to a private school that does not redshirt. There are some schools that don’t redshirt very often if at all. I don’t understand why that concept is so hard to grasp, but with private schools you have options.

You are incredibly naive with a sense of entitlement.

I think actually you are the one who is incredibly naive and entitled, given how upset you are about something like redshirting. You’ve clearly never encountered any real problems in school. You spend all your mental energy on this and not on the kids who go to school hungry, who are years behind grade level, the drugs in schools, the vaping, the violence. I’ve worked with, tried to solve, and seen all of this. But you? You are worried your precious little snowflake might encounter a kid ten months older than her rather than nine months older than her. Yeah, you are the naive and entitled one here.

Only served to show how naive and entitled you are.

You don't even have kids, do you?

Uh, yes I do. You don’t have a moral compass, do you?

You mock children, yes? You wouldn't know anything about a moral compass.

Says the one who called a child a snowflake.

I did no such think. There are multiple posters here.

And I didn’t mock any child. So you are wrong to say I did.

It was a question, wasn't it? If that wasn't you fine. But someone is being very hateful to kids calling them "slow" which is beyond disgusting. I wouldn't want to be on the side of people who use such foul language to talk about innocent kids.

Like the one who says redshirting is okay while calling a child a snowflake.

It's all wrong. But still not seeing evidence or proof that other kids are being harmed if some kids start late. Surely there must be some evidence somewhere?

Let’s insult kids, but first I want evidence of starting kids late.

If the point is that kids are harmed then back it up. Maybe if the evidence had been provided back on page 1 this thread would be shorter. But, 20 pages, lots of insults, no data. I guess OP can do what she likes since it doesn't seem to matter one way or the other.

Deflecting from calling someone’s child a name. Stop pretending you care about children when you insult them. Clearly, you don’t. This is a power trip for you.

It's amazing you think there's one person posting here.

It’s amazing you need “evidence” provided to you otherwise, it cannot be true.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing that really gets to me are the parents who come on here and post, "Why do you care if I redshirt my kid?! What does it matter to you if I didn't want him to be the youngest?" It matters to me because holding back normally developing summer birthday kids puts non-redshirted kids at a disadvantage. Now, instead of being one year younger than the older peers, they are sometimes 15 months younger than the others. Redshirting skews the age, abilities, maturity, and social capacities of a class. I wish schools would set a cut off and hold to it.

It literally does not matter, speaking as a parent who didn’t redshirt and has kids in their older teens now. If you think it matters, you have lead, so far, a pretty narrow and restricted life. Of all the things my kids have encountered in their lives, other kids redshirting is never, ever on the list of even mildly problematic things they’ve encountered. I’d honestly be pretty stressed out as a parent if they told me the redshirting of other kids bothered them, because it would show my kids lacked a healthy sense of perspective and reality. (Fortunately my kids would never do that.)

Also, you have plenty of options with private school: just go to a private school that does not redshirt. There are some schools that don’t redshirt very often if at all. I don’t understand why that concept is so hard to grasp, but with private schools you have options.

Anecdote does not equal data. It is impossible to say that allowing kids up to four months older in a class with has a 16 month range of birthdays does not effect how a teacher provides instruction to the group or how the cohort of children interact together, or how expectations of social, behavioral, and academic norms are skewed. I don't know any mainstream schools that don't redshirt. Make the cut off May 1 and stick to it.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing that really gets to me are the parents who come on here and post, "Why do you care if I redshirt my kid?! What does it matter to you if I didn't want him to be the youngest?" It matters to me because holding back normally developing summer birthday kids puts non-redshirted kids at a disadvantage. Now, instead of being one year younger than the older peers, they are sometimes 15 months younger than the others. Redshirting skews the age, abilities, maturity, and social capacities of a class. I wish schools would set a cut off and hold to it.

It literally does not matter, speaking as a parent who didn’t redshirt and has kids in their older teens now. If you think it matters, you have lead, so far, a pretty narrow and restricted life. Of all the things my kids have encountered in their lives, other kids redshirting is never, ever on the list of even mildly problematic things they’ve encountered. I’d honestly be pretty stressed out as a parent if they told me the redshirting of other kids bothered them, because it would show my kids lacked a healthy sense of perspective and reality. (Fortunately my kids would never do that.)

Also, you have plenty of options with private school: just go to a private school that does not redshirt. There are some schools that don’t redshirt very often if at all. I don’t understand why that concept is so hard to grasp, but with private schools you have options.

You are incredibly naive with a sense of entitlement.

I think actually you are the one who is incredibly naive and entitled, given how upset you are about something like redshirting. You’ve clearly never encountered any real problems in school. You spend all your mental energy on this and not on the kids who go to school hungry, who are years behind grade level, the drugs in schools, the vaping, the violence. I’ve worked with, tried to solve, and seen all of this. But you? You are worried your precious little snowflake might encounter a kid ten months older than her rather than nine months older than her. Yeah, you are the naive and entitled one here.

Only served to show how naive and entitled you are.

You don't even have kids, do you?

Uh, yes I do. You don’t have a moral compass, do you?

You mock children, yes? You wouldn't know anything about a moral compass.

Says the one who called a child a snowflake.

I did no such think. There are multiple posters here.

And I didn’t mock any child. So you are wrong to say I did.

It was a question, wasn't it? If that wasn't you fine. But someone is being very hateful to kids calling them "slow" which is beyond disgusting. I wouldn't want to be on the side of people who use such foul language to talk about innocent kids.

Like the one who says redshirting is okay while calling a child a snowflake.

It's all wrong. But still not seeing evidence or proof that other kids are being harmed if some kids start late. Surely there must be some evidence somewhere?

Let’s insult kids, but first I want evidence of starting kids late.

If the point is that kids are harmed then back it up. Maybe if the evidence had been provided back on page 1 this thread would be shorter. But, 20 pages, lots of insults, no data. I guess OP can do what she likes since it doesn't seem to matter one way or the other.

You can’t think for yourself?

So, you've got nothing.

Are you neurotypical? Can you not form a thought or think rationally?

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Anonymous wrote:The thing that really gets to me are the parents who come on here and post, "Why do you care if I redshirt my kid?! What does it matter to you if I didn't want him to be the youngest?" It matters to me because holding back normally developing summer birthday kids puts non-redshirted kids at a disadvantage. Now, instead of being one year younger than the older peers, they are sometimes 15 months younger than the others. Redshirting skews the age, abilities, maturity, and social capacities of a class. I wish schools would set a cut off and hold to it.

It literally does not matter, speaking as a parent who didn’t redshirt and has kids in their older teens now. If you think it matters, you have lead, so far, a pretty narrow and restricted life. Of all the things my kids have encountered in their lives, other kids redshirting is never, ever on the list of even mildly problematic things they’ve encountered. I’d honestly be pretty stressed out as a parent if they told me the redshirting of other kids bothered them, because it would show my kids lacked a healthy sense of perspective and reality. (Fortunately my kids would never do that.)

Also, you have plenty of options with private school: just go to a private school that does not redshirt. There are some schools that don’t redshirt very often if at all. I don’t understand why that concept is so hard to grasp, but with private schools you have options.

You are incredibly naive with a sense of entitlement.

I think actually you are the one who is incredibly naive and entitled, given how upset you are about something like redshirting. You’ve clearly never encountered any real problems in school. You spend all your mental energy on this and not on the kids who go to school hungry, who are years behind grade level, the drugs in schools, the vaping, the violence. I’ve worked with, tried to solve, and seen all of this. But you? You are worried your precious little snowflake might encounter a kid ten months older than her rather than nine months older than her. Yeah, you are the naive and entitled one here.

Only served to show how naive and entitled you are.

You don't even have kids, do you?

Uh, yes I do. You don’t have a moral compass, do you?

You mock children, yes? You wouldn't know anything about a moral compass.

Says the one who called a child a snowflake.

I did no such think. There are multiple posters here.

And I didn’t mock any child. So you are wrong to say I did.

It was a question, wasn't it? If that wasn't you fine. But someone is being very hateful to kids calling them "slow" which is beyond disgusting. I wouldn't want to be on the side of people who use such foul language to talk about innocent kids.

Like the one who says redshirting is okay while calling a child a snowflake.

It's all wrong. But still not seeing evidence or proof that other kids are being harmed if some kids start late. Surely there must be some evidence somewhere?

Let’s insult kids, but first I want evidence of starting kids late.

If the point is that kids are harmed then back it up. Maybe if the evidence had been provided back on page 1 this thread would be shorter. But, 20 pages, lots of insults, no data. I guess OP can do what she likes since it doesn't seem to matter one way or the other.

You can’t think for yourself?

So, you've got nothing.

Well, you’ve called people “slow.” Obviously, you are the smart one.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing that really gets to me are the parents who come on here and post, "Why do you care if I redshirt my kid?! What does it matter to you if I didn't want him to be the youngest?" It matters to me because holding back normally developing summer birthday kids puts non-redshirted kids at a disadvantage. Now, instead of being one year younger than the older peers, they are sometimes 15 months younger than the others. Redshirting skews the age, abilities, maturity, and social capacities of a class. I wish schools would set a cut off and hold to it.

It literally does not matter, speaking as a parent who didn’t redshirt and has kids in their older teens now. If you think it matters, you have lead, so far, a pretty narrow and restricted life. Of all the things my kids have encountered in their lives, other kids redshirting is never, ever on the list of even mildly problematic things they’ve encountered. I’d honestly be pretty stressed out as a parent if they told me the redshirting of other kids bothered them, because it would show my kids lacked a healthy sense of perspective and reality. (Fortunately my kids would never do that.)

Also, you have plenty of options with private school: just go to a private school that does not redshirt. There are some schools that don’t redshirt very often if at all. I don’t understand why that concept is so hard to grasp, but with private schools you have options.

Anecdote does not equal data. It is impossible to say that allowing kids up to four months older in a class with has a 16 month range of birthdays does not effect how a teacher provides instruction to the group or how the cohort of children interact together, or how expectations of social, behavioral, and academic norms are skewed. I don't know any mainstream schools that don't redshirt. Make the cut off May 1 and stick to it.

My young for the grade child is in the highest math level and does very well academically. What skews it is the expectations for "maturity" and people have unrealistic ideas about what maturity is and should be. I cannot imagine holding my child back and there were concerns, many when they were turning 5.

These kids are 5 either at the start of the school year or a month after. Holding them back makes no sense. And, if they have concerns like my child, sending them where they can get the supports and interventions (along with private therapies) makes far more sense. If kids are with kids a year younger they aren't going to be more mature than their peers. They will be less mature as their peers are a year younger.

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Anonymous wrote:Before you redshirt, just remember that you will have a year of parenting an adult in the future.

So many of my friends who redshirted their boys had huge struggles once they reached 18 and still had another year of HS left.

Lots of "you can't make me, I'm 18" and fighting.

And if you don’t redshirt a late August birthday, you’ll most likely be dropping off a 17 year old, non-adult to college, since many colleges start mid-August. There are downsides to that as well.

No, they would be turning 18.

They would be 17 about to turn 18 like the pp said.