I’m confused! Trans swimmers Lia Thomas and Iszac Henig went head-to-head in the pool

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:probably should watch that movie kindergarten cop w/ that little boy that can break it down to us

So - it is a tumor?

Still - I’m waiting to find out how the world is ending because someone threw a good time at the Ivy championship, but that “good time” still got whacked in a strong conference. Apparently being a good swimmer is not allowed. Any good swimmer must quit I guess. Can’t have freshman girls throwing down good times. Not allowed. Unfair.

No, it’s just that good swimmers who are biological males and went through puberty should not be competing against biological women for women’s titles and records. Nor is anyone saying the world is ending, but that is not the standard we live by, using that logic Title IX wouldn’t exist because the world wasn’t ending then either. But you already knew all that, keep being obtuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:probably should watch that movie kindergarten cop w/ that little boy that can break it down to us

So - it is a tumor?

Still - I’m waiting to find out how the world is ending because someone threw a good time at the Ivy championship, but that “good time” still got whacked in a strong conference. Apparently being a good swimmer is not allowed. Any good swimmer must quit I guess. Can’t have freshman girls throwing down good times. Not allowed. Unfair.

The world is not ending.

All the gains under Title 9, and women’s sports in general?

Yeah, that is all ending if things go on like this. Say goodbye to all of it.

[Anonymous]

The big winner here is any nonprofit that will deliver us from the scourge of crazy men competing against women. All my donations this year will go to nonprofits fighting the transactivist agenda.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The big winner here is any nonprofit that will deliver us from the scourge of crazy men competing against women. All my donations this year will go to nonprofits fighting the transactivist agenda.

That and $4.50 will get you a latte a Starbucks.

Listen dude, Ellie Marquardt has the meet record and she didn't even beat her own time, she came in third, so maybe effing chill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The big winner here is any nonprofit that will deliver us from the scourge of crazy men competing against women. All my donations this year will go to nonprofits fighting the transactivist agenda.

That and $4.50 will get you a latte a Starbucks.

Listen dude, Ellie Marquardt has the meet record and she didn't even beat her own time, she came in third, so maybe effing chill.

Can you translate this into an intelligent point? And lol @ you assuming my gender while seeming to defend the trans agenda.

[Anonymous]

I move in progressive and moderate social and professional circles. I am seeing two things:

1. Radio silence from the kinds of progressives who usually defend progressive principles very aggressively

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2. Powerful outrage from everyone else, including people who usually don’t take a public position on political issues.

When allies can’t defend what’s happening and everyone else wants to see this movement end NOW, it does not bode well for the transgender rights movement.

There is trouble ahead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think a transgender person needs to choose between transitioning to their true gender and competing in high level athletics. Sorry, life isn’t fair. A lot of people don’t get to compete in college athletics. No one is stopping them from doing their sport recreationally.

Exactly!!

[Anonymous]

I guess we should have trans women ice skaters and send them to the Olympics to replace the bio women. That way, they can do quads and beat the Russians. Bio women can rarely do quad jumps once they hit puberty, but it will be no problem for a trans woman who went through male puberty.

[Anonymous]

Setting another pool record in the 200

Lia Thomas, a transgender woman swimmer for the University of Pennsylvania, won the 200-yard freestyle race at the Ivy League women's swimming and diving championships on Friday in a minute and 43.12 seconds, setting a new Ivy record.

Her next closest competitor, Harvard's Samantha Shelton, finished in 1:45.82, followed by Harvard's Molly Hamlin in third. After winning, Thomas shook hands with both.
The win came a day after Thomas won the 500-yard freestyle in 4 minutes and 37.32 seconds, beating her next closest competitor by 7.5 seconds.
The time was a pool record for Blodgett Pool at Harvard but was a few seconds slower than her time at the Zippy Invitational in Ohio in December, in which she set the fastest times of the NCAA season in the 200-yard and 500-yard freestyles. With those times, she qualified to compete at NCAA Nationals in March in Atlanta.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/18/sport/lia-thomas-transgender-ivy-league-swim-championships/index.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think a transgender person needs to choose between transitioning to their true gender and competing in high level athletics. Sorry, life isn’t fair. A lot of people don’t get to compete in college athletics. No one is stopping them from doing their sport recreationally.

Exactly!!

Or the same could be said about women who cannot compete against other women who are transgender. A lot of people don’t get to compete in college athletics and no one is stopping them from doing their sport recreationally after all. Sorry life isn’t fair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think a transgender person needs to choose between transitioning to their true gender and competing in high level athletics. Sorry, life isn’t fair. A lot of people don’t get to compete in college athletics. No one is stopping them from doing their sport recreationally.

Exactly!!

Or the same could be said about women who cannot compete against other women who are transgender. A lot of people don’t get to compete in college athletics and no one is stopping them from doing their sport recreationally after all. Sorry life isn’t fair.

Sure. All women and men can have the exact same choice. Let’s let everyone choose to compete in the NCAA division that matches the gender they were when they went through puberty. If they’d rather not do so, they can compete recreationally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think a transgender person needs to choose between transitioning to their true gender and competing in high level athletics. Sorry, life isn’t fair. A lot of people don’t get to compete in college athletics. No one is stopping them from doing their sport recreationally.

Exactly!!

Or the same could be said about women who cannot compete against other women who are transgender. A lot of people don’t get to compete in college athletics and no one is stopping them from doing their sport recreationally after all. Sorry life isn’t fair.

Biological women who can’t keep pace with biological men are not remotely equivalent to biological women who can’t keep pace with other biological women. Declaring your authentic self to be a woman does not make you the equivalent of a biological woman. It is insane to see the absolutely misogyny that trans women blithely bring to the table.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I move in progressive and moderate social and professional circles. I am seeing two things:

1. Radio silence from the kinds of progressives who usually defend progressive principles very aggressively

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2. Powerful outrage from everyone else, including people who usually don’t take a public position on political issues.

When allies can’t defend what’s happening and everyone else wants to see this movement end NOW, it does not bode well for the transgender rights movement.

There is trouble ahead.

It is also interesting to me that the US has virtually no major left-wing feminist organization that is speaking up about these issues. There is one very small organization which I am aware of but all of the major players appear to be onboard with the transactivist agenda. The landscape of feminist organizations in the UK appears to be much different. I have a few ideas about why this is the case but I ultimately I don't think it will matter because public sentiment is very much against men in women's sports, as you have mentioned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Setting another pool record in the 200

Lia Thomas, a transgender woman swimmer for the University of Pennsylvania, won the 200-yard freestyle race at the Ivy League women's swimming and diving championships on Friday in a minute and 43.12 seconds, setting a new Ivy record.

Her next closest competitor, Harvard's Samantha Shelton, finished in 1:45.82, followed by Harvard's Molly Hamlin in third. After winning, Thomas shook hands with both.
The win came a day after Thomas won the 500-yard freestyle in 4 minutes and 37.32 seconds, beating her next closest competitor by 7.5 seconds.
The time was a pool record for Blodgett Pool at Harvard but was a few seconds slower than her time at the Zippy Invitational in Ohio in December, in which she set the fastest times of the NCAA season in the 200-yard and 500-yard freestyles. With those times, she qualified to compete at NCAA Nationals in March in Atlanta.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/18/sport/lia-thomas-transgender-ivy-league-swim-championships/index.html

Hey - she would have finished in third at the SEC finals. Good for her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think a transgender person needs to choose between transitioning to their true gender and competing in high level athletics. Sorry, life isn’t fair. A lot of people don’t get to compete in college athletics. No one is stopping them from doing their sport recreationally.

Exactly!!

Or the same could be said about women who cannot compete against other women who are transgender. A lot of people don’t get to compete in college athletics and no one is stopping them from doing their sport recreationally after all. Sorry life isn’t fair.

Biological women who can’t keep pace with biological men are not remotely equivalent to biological women who can’t keep pace with other biological women. Declaring your authentic self to be a woman does not make you the equivalent of a biological woman. It is insane to see the absolutely misogyny that trans women blithely bring to the table.

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